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Posted By: watch4bear FBI closes investigation - 01/30/19
More than a year after the bureau began digging into the slaughter of 58 people -- and the wounding of scores of others -- at a Las Vegas country concert, the FBI said Tuesday it hadn't concluded anything more about Stephen Paddock's mysterious motive for the attack than it had the day after the shooting stopped.

The FBI's conclusions on the mass murder, which Paddock undertook from a sniper's perch in the Mandalay Resort and Casino in October 2017, were unveiled Tuesday by the Associated Press. The attack at the Route 91 Harvest Festival was the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history.

Most of what the FBI concluded has long been known. Paddock acted alone when he planned and carried out the attack, Aaron Rouse, the special agent in charge of the FBI’s Las Vegas office, said. The 64-year-old fatally shot himself as police arrived into his hotel suite.

But the reason for Paddock’s rampage? The FBI says nearly 16 months of study and analysis by agents and behavior specialists couldn't uncover it.
“It wasn't about MGM, Mandalay Bay or a specific casino or venue,” Rouse said. “It was all about doing the maximum amount of damage and him obtaining some form of infamy.”

Las Vegas police closed their investigation in August, also without establishing a motive.

Paddock was a retired postal service worker, accountant and real estate investor who owned rental properties and homes in Reno and in a retirement community more than hour’s drive from Las Vegas. He also held a pilot’s license and liked to gamble tens of thousands of dollars at a time

Police characterized him as a loner who had no religious or political affiliations, despite reports he had ranted about the Federal Emergency Management Agency “camps” set up after Hurricane Katrina and deadly standoffs between law enforcement officers and militia groups at Waco, Texas, in 1993 and Ruby Ridge, Idaho, in 1992.

Authorities said he began to stockpile weapons about a year before the attack and spent $1.5 million in the two years before the shooting. He also started to distance himself from his girlfriend and family.

Paddock sent his girlfriend, Marilou Danley, to visit her family in the Philippines two weeks before the attack took place. He also wired her $150,000 while she was there. She returned to the U.S. after the shooting and told authorities he had complained that he was sick and doctors told him he was suffering from an incurable “chemical imbalance.”


https://www.foxnews.com/us/las-vegas-shooting-still-a-mystery-as-fbi-closes-investigation
Posted By: mtnsnake Re: FBI closes investigation - 01/30/19
Was it ever open?
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Was ever open?



We all know the FBI doesn't have a political bias
whistle
With all due respect to the FBI you have to understand they have a lot of resources wrapped up in Obama's last project.
Posted By: Anjin Re: FBI closes investigation - 01/30/19
Bizarre. Once again, the FBI does not inspire confidence by its actions.
Always smelled of coverup.

I guess the FBI is only rendering opinion on someone's "intent" when it's... Hillary.
Posted By: ltppowell Re: FBI closes investigation - 01/30/19
Nothing "bizarre" about this at all. It happens every day. He was just more successful than most. That makes people interested.
Posted By: TBREW401 Re: FBI closes investigation - 01/30/19
Heard that the ATF was not allowed to examine the weapons used.

Strange huh??
Posted By: ltppowell Re: FBI closes investigation - 01/30/19
The Federal Government has no jurisdiction in this case. Do you want that to change?
Originally Posted by ltppowell
The Federal Government has no jurisdiction in this case. Do you want that to change?



They are willingly invited in by most of the commie nests these events occur in, though.
Posted By: lvmiker Re: FBI closes investigation - 01/30/19
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by ltppowell
The Federal Government has no jurisdiction in this case. Do you want that to change?



They are willingly invited in by most of the commie nests these events occur in, though.



Is Las Vegas a commie nest? I somehow missed that.


mike r
Originally Posted by lvmiker
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by ltppowell
The Federal Government has no jurisdiction in this case. Do you want that to change?



They are willingly invited in by most of the commie nests these events occur in, though.



Is Las Vegas a commie nest? I somehow missed that.


mike r



Clark County

100% Reporting
D H. Clinton 52.4% 401,068
R D. Trump 41.8% 319,571
L G. Johnson 2.9% 22,407
N None of these candidates 2.3% 17,461
I D. Castle 0.4% 3,201
N R. De La Fuente 0.2% 1,713
Posted By: RickyD Re: FBI closes investigation - 01/30/19
Once more the illustrious FBI distinguishes itself by proving they are the real traitors and criminals.
Posted By: lvmiker Re: FBI closes investigation - 01/30/19
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by lvmiker
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by ltppowell
The Federal Government has no jurisdiction in this case. Do you want that to change?



They are willingly invited in by most of the commie nests these events occur in, though.



Is Las Vegas a commie nest? I somehow missed that.


mike r



Clark County

100% Reporting
D H. Clinton 52.4% 401,068
R D. Trump 41.8% 319,571
L G. Johnson 2.9% 22,407
N None of these candidates 2.3% 17,461
I D. Castle 0.4% 3,201
N R. De La Fuente 0.2% 1,713



I now understand your logic. Is everyone who has an opinion different than yours a communist?


mike r
Posted By: szihn Re: FBI closes investigation - 01/30/19
The FBI has zero credibility and anything that would benefit the communists (which ARE the Democrats) is either obstructed, ignored or covered up by them and it's been that way for a very long time.

Comey is gone now, but most upper management is very much like him. Why would that surprise anyone? If Comey was in charge, would it not be reasonable to think he'd place all "upper management" in positions to support his agenda.
And Harry Reid had Clark County's sheriff as an ally for a long time. The Sheriff should have done the right thing when the whole strand-off at the Bundy ranch was going on, but instead he simply "cooperated" with the FBI and the Feds at every level. We have seen the Bundy's were exonerated and the Feds were chastised for their lack of professionalism and ethics. That's who Clark County was supporting.
So I can't say what the truth is about the Vegas shooter, but I am about 99% sure it's not going to be what the FBI said it was.

They are ALWAYS going to lie about anything that might go counter to the communist ideals held by the Democrats. The FBI to the democrats is very parallel to the Gestapo and it's alignment with the Nazis. Their 'investigation" is ALWAYS going to go with the Dem/Comms narrative.

Originally Posted by lvmiker
. . . I now understand your logic. Is everyone who has an opinion different than yours a communist?mike r


Mike, did you vote for Trump or Hitlary? That should send you a clue to answer your question.
Originally Posted by lvmiker
I now understand your logic. Is everyone who has an opinion different than yours a communist?


mike r


Mike, only when they vote for Harry Reid and Hillary.

Nothing against those that didn't.
Why did he bring so many guns for the job? Seems like one would have been enough, with lots of mags. Two guns, tops. Was he stupid?
Posted By: Buck_ Re: FBI closes investigation - 01/30/19
So if the FBI is wrong, what's the opposing theory?
Posted By: RickyD Re: FBI closes investigation - 01/30/19
Originally Posted by lvmiker
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by lvmiker
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by ltppowell
The Federal Government has no jurisdiction in this case. Do you want that to change?



They are willingly invited in by most of the commie nests these events occur in, though.



Is Las Vegas a commie nest? I somehow missed that.


mike r



Clark County

100% Reporting
D H. Clinton 52.4% 401,068
R D. Trump 41.8% 319,571
L G. Johnson 2.9% 22,407
N None of these candidates 2.3% 17,461
I D. Castle 0.4% 3,201
N R. De La Fuente 0.2% 1,713



I now understand your logic. Is everyone who has an opinion different than yours a communist?


mike r

Did you just wake up from a 10 year coma?

Things have taken a really bad turn for the worst, the last many years.

If you had any love for country and liberty and hoped to preserve it's generous benefits for your children, there are many creatures pretending to be humans who want to do really bad things to America.

I want to stop them. Please help.
Posted By: Ringman Re: FBI closes investigation - 01/30/19
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Why did he bring so many guns for the job? Seems like one would have been enough, with lots of mags. Two guns, tops. Was he stupid?



He was not there to kill people. He was there to make a sale. The people he thought were to purchase the guns killed him and a bunch of others infidels.
Originally Posted by Ringman
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Why did he bring so many guns for the job? Seems like one would have been enough, with lots of mags. Two guns, tops. Was he stupid?



He was not there to kill people. He was there to make a sale. The people he thought were to purchase the guns killed him and a bunch of others infidels.


You probably don’t think you just made a really stupid post.
Posted By: kwg020 Re: FBI closes investigation - 01/30/19
A mentally ill person needs no motive or criminal intent. It's a civil right to be mentally ill. If the shooter would have survived this attack he would not be prosecuted. He would have been exempt from prosecution. Look at Ronald Reagans shooter. He was deemed mentally ill and he was only held in a psych unit for 30 years mostly because he shot a president. If he would have shot Joe citizen, he'd of been in and out in 4 or 5 years. Tops !

The guy would of spent many years in a psych unit because of the number of victims but that is it. He would of been sued by everyone who was a victim but he only had so much money and assets. The secondary tragedy of all of this is we cannot trust the FBI. They have coopted themselves by getting involved into the politics of the left and trying to destroy a duly elected president. And, anything Harry Reid touched is tainted. Including the Sheriff of Las Vegas county. I certainly hope harry reid dies an ugly and painful death.

Back to my original point. If you are mentally ill you do not need a motive and the law or law enforcement does not require one at the end of an investigation.

kwg
Posted By: DarlaG Re: FBI closes investigation - 01/30/19
To All,

I was, as many people here know, a career peace officer at the city/county/state/federal levels, for most of my adult life.

The ONE thing that I'm 100% SURE of is that some people are simply "NUTS" & do NOT have any other obvious motive for their criminal behavior except: I WANTED TO.
(Some individuals may be so mentally deranged that they don't know why they did a particular criminal act.)

In the 1980s, I was present (NOT my case) when what is now called an "active shooter" was captured alive, after he went to the top of a building & started shooting at random people/passing cars.

When questioned about WHY he decided to just go shoot at random strangers, he responded, "I wanted to be famous & on TV." = In other words, he was what some of us "old school police" called a: SEXUAL PECAN.

While I am not "very impressed" with the FBI, I suspect that the FBI's report was correct in this case & nobody will ever know what the "Las Vegas shooter" believed that his motive was.

just my opinion, tex
Posted By: RickyD Re: FBI closes investigation - 01/30/19
Originally Posted by kwg020
A mentally ill person needs no motive or criminal intent. It's a civil right to be mentally ill. If the shooter would have survived this attack he would not be prosecuted. He would have been exempt from prosecution. Look at Ronald Reagans shooter. He was deemed mentally ill and he was only held in a psych unit for 30 years mostly because he shot a president. If he would have shot Joe citizen, he'd of been in and out in 4 or 5 years. Tops !

The guy would of spent many years in a psych unit because of the number of victims but that is it. He would of been sued by everyone who was a victim but he only had so much money and assets. The secondary tragedy of all of this is we cannot trust the FBI. They have coopted themselves by getting involved into the politics of the left and trying to destroy a duly elected president. And, anything Harry Reid touched is tainted. Including the Sheriff of Las Vegas county. I certainly hope harry reid dies an ugly and painful death.

Back to my original point. If you are mentally ill you do not need a motive and the law or law enforcement does not require one at the end of an investigation.

kwg

I don't think this guy was mentally ill, just full of hate. Good chance, given the way this case was handled, he was in collusion with some people in high places, too. It overall stinks to high heaven.

As to Harry Reid I just hope he dies soon. Hell awaits and that pain is eternal.
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ONE thing that I'm 100% SURE of is that some people are simply "NUTS"



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I suspect that the FBI's report was correct




But the reason for Paddock’s rampage? The FBI says nearly 16 months of study and analysis by agents and behavior specialists couldn't uncover it.
Posted By: RickyD Re: FBI closes investigation - 01/30/19
Originally Posted by watch4bear
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ONE thing that I'm 100% SURE of is that some people are simply "NUTS"



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I suspect that the FBI's report was correct




But the reason for Paddock’s rampage? The FBI says nearly 16 months of study and analysis by agents and behavior specialists couldn't uncover it.










It can't uncovered if they sit on it.
Most "folks" have heard time, and time again . . . liberty and freedom are not without cost. Jefferson realized this with his "tree of liberty" slogan. I have always explained these calamitous killing sprees as part of the cost we pay as citizens of a free country. Who is willing to give up their God given rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for the promise of security that comes from the "disarm the populace" sect of politicians . . . local, state and federal?
Posted By: jaguartx Re: FBI closes investigation - 01/30/19
Its strange (political ?) that google doesnt readily have this story any more.

intellihub.com/las-vegas-massacre-survivor-dies-abruptly-after-posting-eyewitness-account/
Posted By: jaguartx Re: FBI closes investigation - 01/30/19
This is the Saudi prince who owns the top floor of the hotel and was meeting a high US official at the time of the incident. He was a top bud and stock owner of one of americas wealthiest internet corps and supposedly the worlds most prolific child sex trafficker. His traumatic ouster from power resulted in Prince Muhammed bin Salmon flipping Saudi Arabia to being a pro Trump ally and removed S Arabia from being one of the main players in the NWO deep state illuminati.

It is said his ouster resulted in saving 3000 children the day he was busted up.

The false flag killing of the moslem reporter was an attempt by the nwo to have pressure put on Trump to turn against S Arabia and break Trump and Salmons agreement and new alliance. It didnt work.

God Bless Trump.

MAGA.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5108651/American-mercenaries-torturing-Saudi-princes.html
Posted By: rainshot Re: FBI closes investigation - 01/30/19
There truly are people that are just crazy for what ever reason. This could be the case but there is plenty of circumstances to point to other things going on. We'll never knowbecause the powers that be have decided that they've got their man. The FBI is lazy and inept in many areas. They are provably criminal in others. What other vaunted government agency would make an armed crash arrest of a citizen (Roger Stone) with virtually no evidence he did anything wrong and was not a threat to anyone.

They essentially murdered an innocent woman holding her baby at Ruby Ridge and commended their sniper that did it. They and the ATF killed over 80 people near Waco for no other reason than their leader was suspected of having illegal arms. They didn't have to do that. They could have picked the guy up anytime they wanted.

The government has become too powerful and corrupt. The same FBI has been provably corrupt in their dealings and investigation of a sitting president for no other reason than they don't like him.

Yeah there is plenty of reason to question the findings of the FBI in the Las Vegas massacre.
Posted By: RickyD Re: FBI closes investigation - 01/30/19
Originally Posted by jaguartx
This is the Saudi prince who owns the top floor of the hotel and was meeting a high US official at the time of the incident. He was a top bud and stock owner of one of americas wealthiest internet corps and supposedly the worlds most prolific child sex trafficker. His traumatic ouster from power resulted in Prince Muhammed bin Salmon flipping Saudi Arabia to being a pro Trump ally and removed S Arabia from being one of the main players in the NWO deep state illuminati.

It is said his ouster resulted in saving 3000 children the day he was busted up.

The false flag killing of the moslem reporter was an attempt by the nwo to have pressure put on Trump to turn against S Arabia and break Trump and Salmons agreement and new alliance. It didnt work.

God Bless Trump.

MAGA.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5108651/American-mercenaries-torturing-Saudi-princes.html

Very interesting. Child trafficking has become the gorilla in the room no one wants any part of because so many of the connected are just that: part of it.

It shows the utter deprivation the entire world has sunk to. There is likely no coming back once that takes hold of people and the reason I have no doubt this world will end sooner than later.
There is not always a reason for an act like that, other than demons inside a deranged mind. Knowing the reason is not always necessary. Knowing does not change anything.
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Knowing does not change anything.




bump stocks are off the street.
Posted By: RickyD Re: FBI closes investigation - 01/30/19
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
There is not always a reason for an act like that, other than demons inside a deranged mind. Knowing the reason is not always necessary. Knowing does not change anything.

It often sheds light on who put the ideas there. And of collusion with others. I have to wonder if both are not being withheld and that might change a lot of things.
Posted By: jaguartx Re: FBI closes investigation - 01/30/19
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
There is not always a reason for an act like that, other than demons inside a deranged mind. Knowing the reason is not always necessary. Knowing does not change anything.



Unless its a false flag event to affect the US political governance.

The fbi didnt want to find the reason because they were a part of it.
The Vegas shooting story has more holes than the number of rounds fired that night. But let's blame the "lone nutjob". You guys...pieces of work.
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
There is not always a reason for an act like that, other than demons inside a deranged mind. Knowing the reason is not always necessary. Knowing does not change anything.





Do you think its likely this incident will be brought up by the dems for their proposed assault weapons ban?


I mean if theres no reason for the shooting, it must be the guns fault right?


Posted By: 86thecat Re: FBI closes investigation - 01/30/19
Nothing to see, move along.

We could have sent Gus to investigate with a five hundred dollar budget and his analysis would have had less holes and coverup than the FBI's fairy tale.
Posted By: DarlaG Re: FBI closes investigation - 01/30/19
86thecat,

LIKELY SO. - I once knew & liked a lot of "field FBI guys" but the TOP is obviously ROTTEN. The "cream at the top" LIE as often as they breathe.

yours, tex
Posted By: szihn Re: FBI closes investigation - 01/31/19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anv6gLSmPPs

This link may have more truth then anything else we've been shown.

Time will tell. If not, God's judgement is sure and there are not appeals from His court.
Posted By: Joezone Re: FBI closes investigation - 01/31/19
This take makes sense to me. I highly suspect there is much more to the story than what we are being told and do not trust the upper echelons of the FBI at this point.

https://blog.suarezinternational.co...t-on-las-vegas-shooting-my-thoughts.html
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1). That this was an ISIS inspired attack involving lengthy planning and preparation, and that now that ISIS has targeted Vegas it will likely do so again at some point.


Good read


The FBI dropped the ball?

San Bernardino
Parkland Florida
Boston Bombers
ect. ect
Posted By: Joezone Re: FBI closes investigation - 01/31/19
One of the worst things zero did was poison the well and politicize/weaponize (for example the IRS) or in some cases shackle (for example border patrol) our federal agencies. Look at the company he kept and the minions that served him. The swamp thrived under his reign.
Originally Posted by watch4bear
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1). That this was an ISIS inspired attack involving lengthy planning and preparation, and that now that ISIS has targeted Vegas it will likely do so again at some point.


Good read


The FBI dropped the ball?

San Bernardino
Parkland Florida
Boston Bombers
ect. ect





This
Posted By: 5thShock Re: FBI closes investigation - 01/31/19
ISIS takes credit for their deeds. It's how it shows the power of the Caliphate and the weakness of its enemies. I've been around people who act irrationally and it doesn't take long to learn that they act, wait for it, irrationally. If you spend time trying to predict what they will do with your rational mind you'll always be one or more steps behind them and when the dust settles any reconstructions of thoughts and motives will be for amusement only, it will serve nothing.
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ISIS takes credit for their deeds



https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/10/isis-amaq-las-vegas/541746/
Posted By: 5thShock Re: FBI closes investigation - 01/31/19
One of their false claims, they failed to come up with the usual artifacts, videos and otherwise.
Posted By: jaguartx Re: FBI closes investigation - 01/31/19
Originally Posted by 5thShock
ISIS takes credit for their deeds. It's how it shows the power of the Caliphate and the weakness of its enemies. I've been around people who act irrationally and it doesn't take long to learn that they act, wait for it, irrationally. If you spend time trying to predict what they will do with your rational mind you'll always be one or more steps behind them and when the dust settles any reconstructions of thoughts and motives will be for amusement only, it will serve nothing.


Well said. Its why we cant get through to lieberal pukes on the fire and proves the futility of détente and compromise. Burying them is the only answer.
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they failed to come up with the usual artifacts, videos and otherwise.



who did, the fbi? The same fbi that can't find hillarys emails?
Posted By: 5thShock Re: FBI closes investigation - 02/02/19
ISIS could not come up with the videos etc. and so could not show they had a hand in this particular obscenity.
Posted By: broomd Re: FBI closes investigation - 02/02/19
The FBI is effectively a collection of rubes at this point.

Shameful how that proud org has fallen.
Originally Posted by 5thShock
ISIS could not come up with the videos etc. and so could not show they had a hand in this particular obscenity.




Would it be possible for the fbi to lose the tapes, like they lost hillarys email?


tainted (past tense) · tainted (past participle)
contaminate or pollute (something).
"the air was tainted by fumes from the cars"
synonyms:
contaminate · pollute · adulterate · infect · blight · befoul · spoil · soil · ruin · destroy
Posted By: cas6969 Re: FBI closes investigation - 02/02/19
They lost me at "sniper's perch".
Posted By: 5thShock Re: FBI closes investigation - 02/03/19
"Would it be possible for the fbi to lose the tapes, like they lost hillarys email?"

Yes.
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