I’m talking about Westerns that for some reason didn’t get the attention it deserves. Despite having a great cast and being very well done, Open Range tops the list.
Almost any of Jimmy Stewart's Westerns count. "Nevada Smith", with McQueen and Brian Kieth. "Will Penny", Chuck Heston is pretty good. Funniest is "Goin South", considering Garner's Westerns as "A"'list. 7mm
The absolute best you haven’t seen is “The Ranger, the Cook, And A Hole In The Sky” with Sam Elliott. Written by Norman Maclean. This is a fantastic movie set in the Montana wilderness in 1918 and you will wonder why you never heard of it...
not quite on topic but if you have a fire stick or fire tv, whatever, I ask it to show me all movies with whoever.
I'm a big Randolph Scott fan so I asked Alexa to show me all the movies with Randolph Scott via prime and other stuff I have - and it came up with about 30 or so movies for me to choose from. I was wanting to watch a western but I ended up with a movie called Captain Kidde - a pirate movie.
Scott was his typical self in it but I can watch those movies all day long.
Another feature that I like is the results you get from the search shows a list of all the actors and then all the movies they are in you can watch, so Randolph Scott might be in a movie with Stewart Granger so then it shows you that you can watch Granger and John Wayne in North to Alaska.
Since many of those actors were contracted to studios back then, they overlap on a lot of movies. Its opened up me being able to watch some movies I never would have known about otherwise.
The only downside is occasionally you'll choose a movie and it wants you to pay for it because it includes digital rentals.
My next challenge will be to watch as many Elmore Leonard adapted movies I can find. I was suprised to see a movie called The Tall T with Scoot was an Elmore Leonard movie.
I’m talking about Westerns that for some reason didn’t get the attention it deserves. Despite having a great cast and being very well done, Open Range tops the list.
Most of these, including Open Range, aren't what I'd call not getting the attention they deserved.
Valdez is Coming was mentioned earlier. It has become known over the years but was pretty much unknown when it came out and for years thereafter. Billy Two Hats is another. The Hired Hand, Ride the Whirlwind, Ulzana's Raid, The Stalking Moon.
not quite on topic but if you have a fire stick or fire tv, whatever, I ask it to show me all movies with whoever.
I'm a big Randolph Scott fan so I asked Alexa to show me all the movies with Randolph Scott via prime and other stuff I have - and it came up with about 30 or so movies for me to choose from. I was wanting to watch a western but I ended up with a movie called Captain Kidde - a pirate movie.
Scott was his typical self in it but I can watch those movies all day long.
Another feature that I like is the results you get from the search shows a list of all the actors and then all the movies they are in you can watch, so Randolph Scott might be in a movie with Stewart Granger so then it shows you that you can watch Granger and John Wayne in North to Alaska.
Since many of those actors were contracted to studios back then, they overlap on a lot of movies. Its opened up me being able to watch some movies I never would have known about otherwise.
The only downside is occasionally you'll choose a movie and it wants you to pay for it because it includes digital rentals.
My next challenge will be to watch as many Elmore Leonard adapted movies I can find. I was suprised to see a movie called The Tall T with Scoot was an Elmore Leonard movie.
The absolute best you haven’t seen is “The Ranger, the Cook, And A Hole In The Sky” with Sam Elliott. Written by Norman Maclean. This is a fantastic movie set in the Montana wilderness in 1918 and you will wonder why you never heard of it...
Thanks to all for some good ideas, Shrap I put that on the watchlist for tonight.
The absolute best you haven’t seen is “The Ranger, the Cook, And A Hole In The Sky” with Sam Elliott. Written by Norman Maclean. This is a fantastic movie set in the Montana wilderness in 1918 and you will wonder why you never heard of it...
Almost any of Jimmy Stewart's Westerns count. "Nevada Smith", with McQueen and Brian Kieth. "Will Penny", Chuck Heston is pretty good. Funniest is "Goin South", considering Garner's Westerns as "A"'list. 7mm
Oh yeah, Jimmy Stewart. One of my favorite actors back then. Garner too.
The absolute best you haven’t seen is “The Ranger, the Cook, And A Hole In The Sky” with Sam Elliott. Written by Norman Maclean. This is a fantastic movie set in the Montana wilderness in 1918 and you will wonder why you never heard of it...
I own that DVD. Good movie
Where did you find the DVD to buy ? I love anything with Sam Elliot in it. Very underrated actor IMO.
cat ballou ( ignore jane fonda ) , for some reason i have fine memory of this movie.
Jane may really wreck it for you, but another is “Comes A Horseman” James Caan and Richard Farnsworth help make this a great post WWII Western movie...
cat ballou ( ignore jane fonda ) , for some reason i have fine memory of this movie.
Jane may really wreck it for you, but another is “Comes A Horseman” James Caan and Richard Farnsworth help make this a great post WWII Western movie...
i was about 13 years old when i saw it and still remember it.
Harry Tracy w/ Bruce Dern. Bruce is such a good actor I have hated his roles for years but nobody does it better than Bruce Dern. He was hilarious in "The Burbs".
cat ballou ( ignore jane fonda ) , for some reason i have fine memory of this movie.
Jane may really wreck it for you, but another is “Comes A Horseman” James Caan and Richard Farnsworth help make this a great post WWII Western movie...
i was about 13 years old when i saw it and still remember it.
They killed a stunt man filming that show and left the scene in the movie...
The absolute best you haven’t seen is “The Ranger, the Cook, And A Hole In The Sky” with Sam Elliott. Written by Norman Maclean. This is a fantastic movie set in the Montana wilderness in 1918 and you will wonder why you never heard of it...
I own that DVD. Good movie
Where did you find the DVD to buy ? I love anything with Sam Elliot in it. Very underrated actor IMO.
The original with Lee Marvin and Jack Palance. This was made in the early 70’s and is leagues ahead of any Western of that era...
Yep... Excellent movie. Too many westerns are about lawmen or gunfighters and not about cowboys just being cowboys. Monte Walsh fills that niche very well. Conagher is another.
The Coen Brother’s True Grit is criminally underrated.
The absolute best you haven’t seen is “The Ranger, the Cook, And A Hole In The Sky” with Sam Elliott. Written by Norman Maclean. This is a fantastic movie set in the Montana wilderness in 1918 and you will wonder why you never heard of it...
Just read that story the other night. The cook,dealer, .........Ricky Jay, just heard he died. So read it again. I’ll look for it to watch the movie again. McLean was in the Forest Service. River Runs Through It was another of his.
The absolute best you haven’t seen is “The Ranger, the Cook, And A Hole In The Sky” with Sam Elliott. Written by Norman Maclean. This is a fantastic movie set in the Montana wilderness in 1918 and you will wonder why you never heard of it...
I own that DVD. Good movie
Where did you find the DVD to buy ? I love anything with Sam Elliot in it. Very underrated actor IMO.
Here's the best part, I found it in a bargain bin for $2.99 in a place like Dollar General
The absolute best you haven’t seen is “The Ranger, the Cook, And A Hole In The Sky” with Sam Elliott. Written by Norman Maclean. This is a fantastic movie set in the Montana wilderness in 1918 and you will wonder why you never heard of it...
I own that DVD. Good movie
Where did you find the DVD to buy ? I love anything with Sam Elliot in it. Very underrated actor IMO.
IIRC '...Hole in the Sky" was set in Hamilton, Mt for a town but the Forest Rangering was in the Selway
The Mountain Men was written by Charlton Heston's son and is little more than a retelling of several original mountain man stories without giving credit for them. That said, Keith and Heston are entertaining but you've likely seen or read it before.
Such as in The Big Sky, a good early mountain man movie.
Don't forget Lonely Are the Brave with Kirk Douglas. From the book by Edward Abbey. The book is called The Brave Cowboy.
Cowboy (1958) The Rounders (1965) The Cheyenne Social Club (1970) There Was a Crooked Man (1970) The Ballad of Cable Hogue (1970) JW Coop (1971) Junior Bonner (1972)
Cowboy (1958) The Rounders (1965) The Cheyenne Social Club (1970) There Was a Crooked Man (1970) The Ballad of Cable Hogue (1970) JW Coop (1971) Junior Bonner (1972)
The Cheyenne Social Club and The Ballad of Cable Hogue
A lot of these movies are just great westerns and don't really fit the criteria of "forgotten" or "little known" which was how I read the OP. A good example are Stewart's collaborations with Anthony Mann. Pretty well-known movies, just old now. Probably did decent at the box office in their day too. I personally don't think Randolph Scott's movies fit either. Lots of people call them B movies, but they are pretty well known and respected. Almost all the westerns in the late sixties or seventies fit because by then the western wasn't seen as "cool" by the beautiful people. Lots of them fit the criteria even though they had big-name stars and decent budgets.
Somebody mentioned "The Professionals". One of my favorites. Kind of forgotten but wouldn't fit the criteria really, as I read it. Lots of big names, don't know how it did at the box office but used to be on TV a lot.
The Left Handed Gun with Paul Newman is one you didn't see much. Kind of before Newman became a mega star. FWIW most now don't think Billy the Kid was left-handed.
Some of these movies seem to cycle. They seem forgotten for awhile and then will revive and have everybody talking about them. Others just never were well liked by the masses.
"The Mountain Men" is one of my all time favorites!
Another film that didn't gain much popularity, but is quite good is, "The Wild Bunch"!! If you've not seen this flick, especially the unrated version......do it!
not quite on topic but if you have a fire stick or fire tv, whatever, I ask it to show me all movies with whoever.
I'm a big Randolph Scott fan so I asked Alexa to show me all the movies with Randolph Scott via prime and other stuff I have - and it came up with about 30 or so movies for me to choose from. I was wanting to watch a western but I ended up with a movie called Captain Kidde - a pirate movie.
Scott was his typical self in it but I can watch those movies all day long.
Another feature that I like is the results you get from the search shows a list of all the actors and then all the movies they are in you can watch, so Randolph Scott might be in a movie with Stewart Granger so then it shows you that you can watch Granger and John Wayne in North to Alaska.
Since many of those actors were contracted to studios back then, they overlap on a lot of movies. Its opened up me being able to watch some movies I never would have known about otherwise.
The only downside is occasionally you'll choose a movie and it wants you to pay for it because it includes digital rentals.
My next challenge will be to watch as many Elmore Leonard adapted movies I can find. I was suprised to see a movie called The Tall T with Scoot was an Elmore Leonard movie.
I discovered Prime movies after I retired. Never knew what I was missing. Just watched a western last night called "Dual at Diablo" with James Garner, Sidney Poitier and Dennis Weaver. Duel at Diablo is a 1966 western film starring James Garner in his first Western since leaving Maverick and Sidney Poitier in his first Western. Based on Marvin H. Albert's 1957 novel Apache Rising, the film was written by Albert and Michael M. Grilikhes and directed by Ralph Nelson who had directed Poitier in Lilies of the Field.
The absolute best you haven’t seen is “The Ranger, the Cook, And A Hole In The Sky” with Sam Elliott. Written by Norman Maclean. This is a fantastic movie set in the Montana wilderness in 1918 and you will wonder why you never heard of it...
I own that DVD. Good movie
Where did you find the DVD to buy ? I love anything with Sam Elliot in it. Very underrated actor IMO.
Would like to find it as well. Saw it back when and it is top notch!
The original The Quick and the Dead. The 1987 version based on the Louis L'Amour novel, and staring Kate Capshw and Sam Elliot.
Other Louis L'Amour that were adapted for the screen that I think deserve mention:
The Shadow Riders (Sam Elliot, Tom Selleck, and Ben Johnson) The Sacketts (Sam Elliot, Tom Selleck, and Ben Johnson) Conagher (Sam Elliott and Katharine Ross)
'Nother vote here for "Ulzana's Raid", only movie I can think of that showed the duel of wits and horseflesh when it came to tracking a war party; expert trackers being chased, expert trackers doing the chasing.
A lot of these movies are just great westerns and don't really fit the criteria of "forgotten" or "little known" which was how I read the OP. A good example are Stewart's collaborations with Anthony Mann. Pretty well-known movies, just old now. Probably did decent at the box office in their day too. I personally don't think Randolph Scott's movies fit either. Lots of people call them B movies, but they are pretty well known and respected. Almost all the westerns in the late sixties or seventies fit because by then the western wasn't seen as "cool" by the beautiful people. Lots of them fit the criteria even though they had big-name stars and decent budgets.
Somebody mentioned "The Professionals". One of my favorites. Kind of forgotten but wouldn't fit the criteria really, as I read it. Lots of big names, don't know how it did at the box office but used to be on TV a lot.
The Left Handed Gun with Paul Newman is one you didn't see much. Kind of before Newman became a mega star. FWIW most now don't think Billy the Kid was left-handed.
Some of these movies seem to cycle. They seem forgotten for awhile and then will revive and have everybody talking about them. Others just never were well liked by the masses.
Well I did start out with that premise, but being a realist I knew the Campfire would bend and twist this thread off it's path. No worries, it was anticipated It's a fun thread, keep it going
I was 8 when this winner came out ...good stuff ... Mackenna's Gold is a 1969 American western film directed by J. Lee Thompson, starring an ensemble cast featuring Gregory Peck, Omar Sharif, Telly Savalas, Ted Cassidy, Camilla Sparv and Julie Newmar in lead ...
Based on: Mackenna's Gold; 1963 novel; by Will Henry
The original "Unforgiven". With Burt Lancaster and Audrey Hepburn.
And Audie Murphy.
That was Murphy's very best role and his acting was very good.
L.W.
Absolutely !
And "the Spoilers" John Wayne and Marlene Dietrich! With a cameo of none other that THE Robert Service!! Pretending to write "The Shooting of Dan Magrew" in the flick!!!
Not sure its really that great a movie but I can still remember first watching it when I was maybe 7 or 8 years old. Anyway, the name if the movie is "The Charge at Feather River". Kind of cheezy but a heck of a western for the time IMHO.
A parody on everyone of the B westerns in the spirit of Mel Brooks. He is not the director though. A must watch for anyone needing a good laugh and fully suitable for the kids.
I do appreciate the reality of conditions depicted in Open Range.
I was 8 when this winner came out ...good stuff ... Mackenna's Gold is a 1969 American western film directed by J. Lee Thompson, starring an ensemble cast featuring Gregory Peck, Omar Sharif, Telly Savalas, Ted Cassidy, Camilla Sparv and Julie Newmar in lead ...
Based on: Mackenna's Gold; 1963 novel; by Will Henry
Release date: May 10, 1969
Music by: Quincy Jones
Saw this one at the drive-in. Still one of my favorites.
Not sure its really that great a movie but I can still remember first watching it when I was maybe 7 or 8 years old. Anyway, the name if the movie is "The Charge at Feather River". Kind of cheezy but a heck of a western for the time IMHO.
The absolute best you haven’t seen is “The Ranger, the Cook, And A Hole In The Sky” with Sam Elliott. Written by Norman Maclean. This is a fantastic movie set in the Montana wilderness in 1918 and you will wonder why you never heard of it...
I own that DVD. Good movie
Where did you find the DVD to buy ? I love anything with Sam Elliot in it. Very underrated actor IMO.
The absolute best you haven’t seen is “The Ranger, the Cook, And A Hole In The Sky” with Sam Elliott. Written by Norman Maclean. This is a fantastic movie set in the Montana wilderness in 1918 and you will wonder why you never heard of it...
That is a great movie. Believe it or not we have had a DVD of it for years and watch it at least once a year.
"Ride the High Country" with Joel McCrea, Randolph Scott, and directed by Sam Peckinpah is a real sleeper. One of Peckinpah's first movies. Totally a different type of movie than "The Wild Bunch' which is good as well.
How about Last of the Dogmen or The Mountain Men with Brian Keith and Charlton Heston.
Last of the Dogman is pretty good, but “The Mountain Men” is truly a very underrated classic!!! Everybody needs to see it at least two or three times!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^These were good movies^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I would add to these Commanche Moon, and Godless. Godless is with Jeff Daniels. It's 6 movies that run together. The first one is a little slow but it gets better as they go on. Very period correct. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5516154/
Tell Them Willy Boy Is Here (1969) is another good flick.
Interesting story about Tell Them Willy Boy Is Here.Willie Boy finished filming before Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid was released, although because of some problems, Willie Boy was still in post production. The star of Willie Boy was Robert Blake with Robert Redford playing a lesser role. But, before Willie Boy was released, Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid went into release nationwide and overnight, Robert Redford became a gigantic star.
So the studio that produced Willie Boy noted the wild popularity of Robert Redford and changed all their publicity to feature Robert Redford instead of Robert "Little Beaver" Blake. Thereafter, Blake kinda got left in the dust of the desert country in Willie Boy and Redford was the "hot" star.
The absolute best you haven’t seen is “The Ranger, the Cook, And A Hole In The Sky” with Sam Elliott. Written by Norman Maclean. This is a fantastic movie set in the Montana wilderness in 1918 and you will wonder why you never heard of it...
That is a great movie. Believe it or not we have had a DVD of it for years and watch it at least once a year.
"Ride the High Country" with Joel McCrea, Randolph Scott, and directed by Sam Peckinpah is a real sleeper. One of Peckinpah's first movies. Totally a different type of movie than "The Wild Bunch' which is good as well.
All Joel McCrea movies rock! "Stars in my Crown" is another. Along with "Buffalo Bill"
The absolute best you haven’t seen is “The Ranger, the Cook, And A Hole In The Sky” with Sam Elliott. Written by Norman Maclean. This is a fantastic movie set in the Montana wilderness in 1918 and you will wonder why you never heard of it...
That is a great movie. Believe it or not we have had a DVD of it for years and watch it at least once a year.
"Ride the High Country" with Joel McCrea, Randolph Scott, and directed by Sam Peckinpah is a real sleeper. One of Peckinpah's first movies. Totally a different type of movie than "The Wild Bunch' which is good as well.
All Joel McCrea movies rock! "Stars in my Crown" is another. Along with "Buffalo Bill"
'Nother vote here for "Ulzana's Raid", only movie I can think of that showed the duel of wits and horseflesh when it came to tracking a war party; expert trackers being chased, expert trackers doing the chasing.
'Nother vote here for "Ulzana's Raid", only movie I can think of that showed the duel of wits and horseflesh when it came to tracking a war party; expert trackers being chased, expert trackers doing the chasing.
+1
Darn good movie!
I never heard of this one, at least that I can remember. Sounds good though. I'll see if I can find it to watch.
The absolute best you haven’t seen is “The Ranger, the Cook, And A Hole In The Sky” with Sam Elliott. Written by Norman Maclean. This is a fantastic movie set in the Montana wilderness in 1918 and you will wonder why you never heard of it...
I own that DVD. Good movie
Where did you find the DVD to buy ? I love anything with Sam Elliot in it. Very underrated actor IMO.
I haven’t seen “The Last of the Dogmen” in a few years. One of my old favorites. Also like “Jeremiah Johnson”, The Mountain Men, “Once Upon a Time in the West” and “Conagher”.
Glad to see a couple of posters mentioned "Lonely are the brave". Excellent "modern day" western. Kirk Douglas always said it was his favorite role. Agree.
I watch a lot of older movies on the Western Channel, and I am always seeing stuff that probably was researched and happened all the time, but strange to me. One was a family using a team comprised of an ox and a mule, and they were using a horse collar and hames on the ox. I saw another just the other day, where they had a 6-mule team, with 4 abreast in front and 2 behind, hooked to a large 2 wheel cart. Using it as a cook wagon on a trail drive. miles
The original "Unforgiven". With Burt Lancaster and Audrey Hepburn.
Lest anybody think this is what Clint Eastwood's movie was a remake of, it's not. It is a completely different story, but with similar names. It was a big budget western of the time, shot down in Mexico with John Huston directing. It has a young Doug McClure and also John Saxon, a guy who used to be in about every TV show and who played the villain in the re-make of Winchester '73. Also other big names. The Unforgiven is one of my favorite movies and absolutely one of the best westerns ever made. It differs from the book of the same name, written by the same author who gave us The Searchers. It is about a Texas family fending off Kiowa injuns probably in the mid-1870's. Features some Sharps guns and a "Henry". A bit more accurate than most movies of the day though could have used even better firearms and probably would if shot today. Since we've gotten into faves as opposed to what the OP was talking about, I highly recommend this western. A great look and storyline with absolutely beautiful music. Some genuinely scary parts that were probably considered horrific in 1960.
Several Charles Bronson efforts are worth watching. Red Sun teams Bronson up with a Samurai in search of a treasured sword. Better than it sounds with a nice nude scene by Ursula Andress-which was pretty racy in the 70's. Chato's Land is the story of a half-breed pursued by a posse of losers. It is very good. Chino, is another about a rancher who takes in an orphaned teenager. The White Buffalo was widely panned but probably worth watching.
It is worth mentioning that Major Dundee was directed by Sam Peckinpah of The Wild Bunch fame, as was Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid.
W4B's Chuka isn't Citizen Kane, but is worth viewing.
The Hunting Party is a largely forgotten western that is worth a watch.
The original "Unforgiven". With Burt Lancaster and Audrey Hepburn.
Lest anybody think this is what Clint Eastwood's movie was a remake of, it's not. It is a completely different story, but with similar names. It was a big budget western of the time, shot down in Mexico with John Huston directing. It has a young Doug McClure and also John Saxon, a guy who used to be in about every TV show and who played the villain in the re-make of Winchester '73. Also other big names. The Unforgiven is one of my favorite movies and absolutely one of the best westerns ever made. It differs from the book of the same name, written by the same author who gave us The Searchers. It is about a Texas family fending off Kiowa injuns probably in the mid-1870's. Features some Sharps guns and a "Henry". A bit more accurate than most movies of the day though could have used even better firearms and probably would if shot today. Since we've gotten into faves as opposed to what the OP was talking about, I highly recommend this western. A great look and storyline with absolutely beautiful music. Some genuinely scary parts that were probably considered horrific in 1960.
Several Charles Bronson efforts are worth watching. Red Sun teams Bronson up with a Samurai in search of a treasured sword. Better than it sounds with a nice nude scene by Ursula Andress-which was pretty racy in the 70's. Chato's Land is the story of a half-breed pursued by a posse of losers. It is very good. Chino, is another about a rancher who takes in an orphaned teenager. The White Buffalo was widely panned but probably worth watching.
It is worth mentioning that Major Dundee was directed by Sam Peckinpah of The Wild Bunch fame, as was Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid.
W4B's Chuka isn't Citizen Kane, but is worth viewing.
The Hunting Party is a largely forgotten western that is worth a watch.
There is no doubt that Harmonica in Once Upon a Time in the West, was Bronson's best role. It is easily one of the top ten westerns ever made.
Robert Mitchum was in so many westerns that it's mind-boggling. Many big-time efforts as well as forgotten B movies. The Way West was an epic saga with a lot of big names. IIRC it was written by Woody Guthrie along with The Big Sky, mentioned earlier.
Some that are seldom mentioned anymore are, Blood on the Moon, Pursued, Man with the Gun and The Wonderful Country. Another is Track of the Cat, which I believe John Wayne produced but couldn't star in for some reason. Mitchum was a good anti-hero.
You just posted my all-time favorite sleeper movie. The seldom seen “The Wonderful Country” ...Robert Mitchum and Julie London.
...and a black horse named “Tears”
I read this great Tom Lea book in the 1950s. Several times. I have since learned that he did his own black pen illustrations’ I still remember the one he did for the chapter where “Martin Brady” meets the girl. Just a pair of ladies slippers laid next to a pair of cowboy boots.
"You just posted my all-time favorite sleeper movie. The seldom seen “The Wonderful Country” ...Robert Mitchum and Julie London.
...and a black horse named “Tears” ..."
In the movie, Mitchum called him "Lagrimas." Spanish for "Tears."
FWIW.
L.W.
The book is just out of my reach, from where I sit. My Mom got it and I now have it. Texas Monthly I think it was, rated it as one of THE three books to read about Texas in the old west along with Lonesome Dove and All the Pretty Horses. Tom Lea was a helluva illustrator my amigo. Martin Brady is pictured aboard Lagrimas on the dust cover of my edition. Sadly the dust cover is about done for. McMurtry's prequel to Lonesome Dove, Comanche Moon, has one of his paintings on its dust cover. I think the title is, "The Hills of Northern Mexico". Beautiful. As always, your knowledge of old time Hollywood lore is peerless.
Many consider Peckinpah's Ride the High Country, to be the last of the golden era of Hollywood westerns.
First of his movies I know of where the phrase " two bit redneck peckerwood" or a variation thereof was used. What other two movies of his was it used in? They have both been mentioned in this thread! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Many consider Peckinpah's Ride the High Country, to be the last of the golden era of Hollywood westerns.
First of his movies I know of where the phrase " two bit redneck peckerwood" or a variation thereof was used. What other two movies of his was it used in? They have both been mentioned in this thread! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Strother Martin called LQ Jones that in The Wild Bunch. I don't remember it in Ride the High Country, but I'm sure it was used by or uttered by Warren Oats. I think I seem to recall Richard Harris using a variant thereof to describe again, Warren Oats in Major Dundee.
I think it was Joel McCrae calling it out to the assassin brothers who were ambushing him and his prisoners.
Yup! This!
And ditto Major Dundee!
Well done!
I said "used by or uttered by" which is the same thing. I meant used on or uttered by. Nobody played white trash like Oats. The Northfield Raid scene in The Long Riders is many times said to be a homage to Peckinpah as it is very similar to the opening scene in The Wild Bunch. Walter Hill who directed The Long Riders, was an understudy of Peckinapah's and unless I'm mistaken, also worked on The Wild Bunch.
Peckinpah supposedly made the last traditional western with Ride the High Country but he supposedly killed off the genre with The Wild Bunch, which premiered in Kansas City to a bunch of schoolteachers, no less. The teachers were horrified at the then-shocking violence of the movie.
Many Director's Cuts are better off left cut out. Not so with The Wild Bunch extended movie. It clears up some plot holes, giving it much better continuity than the theatrical version.
Walter Hill also directed some episodes of Deadwood, along with Geronimo, An American Legend and Wild Bill. Several other of his movies could be said to be westerns, especially Extreme Prejudice.
That's right! "Say, pilgrim, did you ever skin a griz?"
I saw that movie at the theatre in Atlanta in January 1973 on the original release. We got so amped up from this film that we decided we wanted to live like Jeremiah Johnson. We knew nothing about horses or mountain man life. We were suburban kids. We spent the next six months going to the stables and practicing riding horses. We got some guns and went to the range to learn how to shoot well. We bought expensive saddles and had them refitted and refurbished.
We bought the book "Horses, Hitches, and Rocky Trails" which teaches you how to load packs, called panniers, onto a pack horse, and how to tie them on with the diamond hitch. Mountain Man boot camp, it was.
And we went up to the wilderness of British Columbia, near Fort Nelson, and rented horses from big game outfitters, and we spent the summer , two suburban boys from Atlanta, riding around in the wilderness, fishing for trout and camping in the woods.
There are lots of grizzly around there but, Thank God, we didn't see any. Lucky, I guess. Fortunately, there were no Crow Indians throwing spears at us at night while we sat around the camp fire. We spent the summer living like a Mountain Man all because of that movie.
There are a lot of good ones listed. Trying to be different here and this might be too much of a stretch. But " 2nd hand lions" stars Robert Duval and Michael Caine and is set in 1950's Texas. It is probably the best movie I've seen than no one has heard of.
Another vote for Tom Horn, read his book if you hav'nt "Life of Tom Horn, Government Scout and Interpreter". He wrote this when he was in prison after the trial. Interesting note from the book was he was actually carrying a 30-30 and not a 45-60.
Fun movie to watch not yet listed is El Rancho Deluxe, gotta love Slim Pickens!
Another vote for Tom Horn, read his book if you hav'nt "Life of Tom Horn, Government Scout and Interpreter". He wrote this when he was in prison after the trial. Interesting note from the book was he was actually carrying a 30-30 and not a 45-60.
Fun movie to watch not yet listed is El Rancho Deluxe, gotta love Slim Pickens!
Just a few years before Tom Horn came out, there was a TV movie about him starring David Carradine. Mr. Horn, I believe it was.
The absolute best you haven’t seen is “The Ranger, the Cook, And A Hole In The Sky” with Sam Elliott. Written by Norman Maclean. This is a fantastic movie set in the Montana wilderness in 1918 and you will wonder why you never heard of it...
Little known and excellent - Bad Company 1972 with Jeff Bridges. To me it seemed perhaps the most realistic western made. Great feel to it. Hoping someone takes this recommendation to find and watch it. Great Movie.
Nobody mentioned Little Big Man. Thought it was terrific.
One already mentioned Ride with the Devil - found it believable as well. Too many on this list, while enjoyable, are sappy as hell.
I haven't seen Wyatt Earp, the Homesman, Traded or Lonesome Dove Church. Don't recall seeing Diablo either with Clint Eastwood's son playing the lead. watched Traded last night as matter of fact. Paul B.
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