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Posted By: papalondog Ribs - 02/28/19
I have my babyback pork rib cooking down to where I like it better than any I've eaten. I use a Traeger. I want to but have never tried Q'ing beef ribs. Anyone have a great process?
All the way from picking them at the butcher to BBQing.

Just tired of politics for the day anyway. Let's eat!
Posted By: SandBilly Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Pork ribs rule. Beef sucks, Yes, beef can be pretty good, but they still don’t compare.
Posted By: ironbender Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
I've been telling rick...we need a cooking forum.
Posted By: huntsman22 Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Ribs. They hurt like hell when you break them....
Posted By: SandBilly Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Originally Posted by ironbender
I've been telling rick...we need a cooking forum.


Bunch of snobs down there. I don’t blame him..
Posted By: High_Noon Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Pork ribs rule. Beef sucks, Yes, beef can be pretty good, but they still don’t compare.

Not true. The beef ribs at Pecan Lodge in Dallas, TX are fargin' awesome:

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Posted By: SandBilly Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Originally Posted by High_Noon
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Pork ribs rule. Beef sucks, Yes, beef can be pretty good, but they still don’t compare.

Not true. The beef ribs at Pecan Lodge in Dallas, TX are fargin' awesome:

[Linked Image]


They’re better than pork?
Posted By: NoDak Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
You need to find a butcher who has the goods. Most times the stuff you find is like riblets. Mostly bone...not much meat. Had great beef ribs at Fiorina Jack's in Kansas City. Yes done properly they are delicious. Low and slow is key.
Posted By: ltppowell Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Originally Posted by papalondog
I have my babyback pork rib cooking down to where I like it better than any I've eaten. I use a Traeger. I want to but have never tried Q'ing beef ribs. Anyone have a great process?
All the way from picking them at the butcher to BBQing.

Just tired of politics for the day anyway. Let's eat!


Just like brisket. Far better than pig ribs.
Posted By: SandBilly Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by papalondog
I have my babyback pork rib cooking down to where I like it better than any I've eaten. I use a Traeger. I want to but have never tried Q'ing beef ribs. Anyone have a great process?
All the way from picking them at the butcher to BBQing.

Just tired of politics for the day anyway. Let's eat!


Just like brisket. Far better than pig ribs.


I guess you’re gonna post that recipe?
Posted By: High_Noon Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
SandBilly: In my opinion yes. I've never had beef ribs like the ones they make at Pecan Lodge. They take BBQ to another level entirely.
Posted By: BillyGoatGruff Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
hmmmm ribs. Got some in the oven now. Costco pre-seasoned. Wrap em in foil, pour on some barbecue sauce, toss in the over for a couple hours and voila.

Best part of ribs is crunching the bones and sucking the marrow out.
Posted By: SandBilly Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Lots of bullshit in this thread.
Posted By: 32_20fan Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
The 3-bone short plate rib cut (123A) can be quite the BBQ experience and I compare it to a melt in your mouth brisket point. The 4-bone chuck short rib plate (130) can be good too. Low and slow and the connective tissue turns to butter and coupled with a good bark....fantastic!
Posted By: High_Noon Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Lots of bullshit in this thread.

isn't that true of all the threads here?
Posted By: SandBilly Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Originally Posted by High_Noon
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Lots of bullshit in this thread.

isn't that true of all the threads here?


Yep!😀
Posted By: SCRUBS Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Originally Posted by High_Noon
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Pork ribs rule. Beef sucks, Yes, beef can be pretty good, but they still don’t compare.

Not true. The beef ribs at Pecan Lodge in Dallas, TX are fargin' awesome:

[Linked Image]


Those look good.
Posted By: White_Bear Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Originally Posted by High_Noon
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Pork ribs rule. Beef sucks, Yes, beef can be pretty good, but they still don’t compare.

Not true. The beef ribs at Pecan Lodge in Dallas, TX are fargin' awesome:

[Linked Image]


Half burnt. Half bone. Not much edible meat left there.
Posted By: High_Noon Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Originally Posted by White_Bear
Originally Posted by High_Noon
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Pork ribs rule. Beef sucks, Yes, beef can be pretty good, but they still don’t compare.

Not true. The beef ribs at Pecan Lodge in Dallas, TX are fargin' awesome:

[Linked Image]


Half burnt. Half bone. Not much edible meat left there.


You'd be hard pressed to finish one. They're huge and incredibly rich.
Posted By: White_Bear Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
I'm a fat bastard who loves my animal flesh. I'll defer my comments until I try one. smile
Posted By: deflave Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Pork ribs rule. Beef sucks, Yes, beef can be pretty good, but they still don’t compare.


Kids...
Posted By: deflave Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Originally Posted by High_Noon
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Pork ribs rule. Beef sucks, Yes, beef can be pretty good, but they still don’t compare.

Not true. The beef ribs at Pecan Lodge in Dallas, TX are fargin' awesome:

[Linked Image]


They’re better than pork?



Kids...
Posted By: SandBilly Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Pork ribs rule. Beef sucks, Yes, beef can be pretty good, but they still don’t compare.


Kids...


Beefs ribs are better than pork?
Posted By: deflave Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Originally Posted by White_Bear
Originally Posted by High_Noon
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Pork ribs rule. Beef sucks, Yes, beef can be pretty good, but they still don’t compare.

Not true. The beef ribs at Pecan Lodge in Dallas, TX are fargin' awesome:

[Linked Image]


Half burnt. Half bone. Not much edible meat left there.



Kids....
Posted By: slumlord Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
I'm pretty sure I watched a video on here of a guy catching a set of beef ribs on fire with a komado at a Days Inn and then sawing thru them with a ginsu.
Posted By: deflave Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Pork ribs rule. Beef sucks, Yes, beef can be pretty good, but they still don’t compare.


Kids...


Beefs ribs are better than pork?


Wouldn't it be easier for you to admit you don't know WTF your'e talking about?
Posted By: SandBilly Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Originally Posted by slumlord
I'm pretty sure I watched a video on here of a guy catching a set of beef ribs on fire with a komado at a Days Inn and then sawing thru them with a ginsu.


I think I know that video.
Posted By: SandBilly Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Pork ribs rule. Beef sucks, Yes, beef can be pretty good, but they still don’t compare.


Kids...


Beefs ribs are better than pork?


Wouldn't it be easier for you to admit you don't know WTF your'e talking about?


Uh, [bleep] no.
Posted By: stxhunter Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Pork ribs rule. Beef sucks, Yes, beef can be pretty good, but they still don’t compare.


Kids...

got to admit this is true, i love good whole short ribs but pork are better,
Posted By: deflave Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Originally Posted by SandBilly


Uh, [bleep] no.


Enjoy the south.
Posted By: deflave Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Originally Posted by White_Bear
Originally Posted by High_Noon
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Pork ribs rule. Beef sucks, Yes, beef can be pretty good, but they still don’t compare.

Not true. The beef ribs at Pecan Lodge in Dallas, TX are fargin' awesome:

[Linked Image]


Half burnt. Half bone. Not much edible meat left there.


Minnesoduh hath spoken.

The land of 10,000 Traegers.
Posted By: deflave Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Pork ribs rule. Beef sucks, Yes, beef can be pretty good, but they still don’t compare.


Kids...

got to admit this is true, i love good whole short ribs but pork are better,


Kids...
Posted By: SandBilly Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Post that Burger King flame broiled video again.
Posted By: mtnsnake Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Country style pork ribs are awesome.
Posted By: stxhunter Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Pork ribs rule. Beef sucks, Yes, beef can be pretty good, but they still don’t compare.


Kids...

got to admit this is true, i love good whole short ribs but pork are better,


Kids...

pork are easier to get right, plus they cost a lot less. I can cook some good bronto ribs, but only do it once in a while.
Posted By: Henryseale Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Pork ribs are mighty tasty without doubt. Having said that, I can hurt myself on excellent beef ribs from Joe's BBQ at Alvin, Texas. As Alton Brown would say...that's Good Eats!
Posted By: sawbuck Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
When I was a kid, the local grocery store peddled BBQ beef ribs every evening. They came in a foil-lined bag and were simply delicious.
That grocery store went out of business when I was about 5. I can almost taste them now.
Posted By: NoDak Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Both done to perfection it's a close call. BBQ in general is good. Just some is better than others. Just like beer and women ! smile
Posted By: papalondog Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
No instruction to the perfect beef rib yet. Guess I'll kind of follow the brisket ideas and slow smoke, long cook some beef and see for myself.......
Posted By: Pharmseller Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Prime rib ribs are amazing.



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Posted By: SCRUBS Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
Prime rib ribs are amazing.



P


+1 on that.
Posted By: DMc Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Yes, pass the ribs please.
Posted By: Morewood Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Stop it. I'm leaking like Pavlov's dog here.
Posted By: curdog4570 Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Originally Posted by papalondog
No instruction to the perfect beef rib yet. Guess I'll kind of follow the brisket ideas and slow smoke, long cook some beef and see for myself.......


You can’t hardly cook them too slow. Brushing them occasionally with a good marinade keeps them from drying out so bad.

Anybody can fix good pork ribs.....beef and deer ribs take talent and patience.
Posted By: SandBilly Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
I think this is it it, I just don’t remember the guy being that fat. grin

Posted By: New_2_99s Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Beef ribs are killa, whether smoked/BBQ, or braised low & slow !

I schidte thee not !
Posted By: EthanEdwards Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Originally Posted by NoDak
You need to find a butcher who has the goods. Most times the stuff you find is like riblets. Mostly bone...not much meat. Had great beef ribs at Fiorina Jack's in Kansas City. Yes done properly they are delicious. Low and slow is key.
Ate at Jack Stacks many times. They are very good. They aren't the best in Kansas City though. Lots of competition up there anymore.
Posted By: New_2_99s Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
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Posted By: atvalaska Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Pork ribs are to easy to get rite . 2 ways to do beef ribs...bbqed and with kruat .....both are food porn...just ask flav.....:)
Posted By: Rooster7 Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
I like both.

Pork is definitely easier to get right though.
Posted By: Rooster7 Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Originally Posted by New_2_99s
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Those look fantastic!
Posted By: Rooster7 Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Originally Posted by SandBilly
I think this is it it, I just don’t remember the guy being that fat. grin



'Flave supplies those to Mickey D's for the prime rib sammich
Posted By: TnBigBore Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Beef if you are from TX and pork if you are from the Southeast. I have had both beef and pork ribs that were wonderful.
Posted By: TBREW401 Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
BBQ is Pork!
Posted By: dvdegeorge Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
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Posted By: New_2_99s Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Beautiful Dan !
Posted By: Terryk Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
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Pure artwork there!
Posted By: Bristoe Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
The Texas Road House is mostly a steak place. But their ribs are great!
Posted By: JamesJr Re: Ribs - 02/28/19
I like beef. Never had beef ribs.

But sorry folks, especially you Texas fellows, REAL BBQ is pork, and it's cooked low and slow over a wood fired pit. Not gas, not electric, not in an oven, not warmed up from the grocery store.

I do like brisket, and I have eaten it in Texas. I like chicken cooked on a barbeque pit, and I like mutton. But the real thing is pork.
Posted By: dvdegeorge Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
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Posted By: slumlord Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
Originally Posted by JamesJr
I like beef. Never had beef ribs.

But sorry folks, especially you Texas fellows, REAL BBQ is pork, and it's cooked low and slow over a wood fired pit. Not gas, not electric, not in an oven, not warmed up from the grocery store.

I do like brisket, and I have eaten it in Texas. I like chicken cooked on a barbeque pit, and I like mutton. But the real thing is pork.


I've seen pork butts cooked on here, where the guy bragged about trimming the fat-cap off before he 'smoked' it.

😄😄😄😄


But hey, some astronerds claim Pluto is not a planet anymore either.
Posted By: SandBilly Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Pork ribs rule. Beef sucks, Yes, beef can be pretty good, but they still don’t compare.


Kids...


Beefs ribs are better than pork?


Wouldn't it be easier for you to admit you don't know WTF your'e talking about?


Bought two racks and trying to prove myself wrong. What’s that flame broiled recipe? I’ll be using a BGE.
Posted By: deflave Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
You just cook them like you would a brisket. There no real secret to them. Low and slow.

I’m glad I just saw this because I’ve been meaning to grab some.
Posted By: RickyD Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Pork ribs rule. Beef sucks, Yes, beef can be pretty good, but they still don’t compare.


Kids...

got to admit this is true, i love good whole short ribs but pork are better,

I think so, too. But I'll try beef ribs again. Haven't had any for a long time.
Posted By: SandBilly Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
Originally Posted by deflave
You just cook them like you would a brisket. There no real secret to them. Low and slow.

I’m glad I just saw this because I’ve been meaning to grab some.


I’ve read after smoking wrap with broth. No? They don’t dry out bad?
Posted By: deflave Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
Not not at all. It is common to wrap them in butcher paper and let them sit an hour but it’s not necessary.

I will try and find you a link to a good un.
Posted By: SandBilly Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
10-4 thanks
Posted By: stxhunter Re: Ribs - 03/01/19


Posted By: kid0917 Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
Yeah Man! Brontos!!
Posted By: Gus Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
both kinds of ribs are good. fact is, the beef ribs around these parts have become too pricey, so the pork ribs besides being very good, are much less expensive.

but if i think price should be in the picture, i'm probably not playing in the right ball field.

and to think the marketing is swinging toward grass fed beef away from grain fed.

a lot of old feed lot operators are probably spinning in their graves.
Posted By: deflave Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
Beef everywhere is up. That’s not unique to Georgia.

The reason southern folk think pork is the only form of BBQ is because their BBQ comes from American blacks. That’s all poor people could afford back in the day.

The reason you see beef commonly BBQ’d in Texas is due to German immigrants to their state.
Posted By: JamesJr Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
Originally Posted by deflave
The reason southern folk think pork is the only form of BBQ is because their BBQ comes from American blacks.



A lot of the really good barbeque that I've had over the years was cooked by some old Black dude. The best mutton I've ever had was some that an old Black man cooked. I'm not a huge fan of mutton, but that was fantastic. I'll give them credit, as most of them know how to cook right.
Posted By: rlott Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
I cheat like crazy. Instapot.
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
I like beef and pork.
Posted By: deflave Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
Originally Posted by JamesJr
Originally Posted by deflave
The reason southern folk think pork is the only form of BBQ is because their BBQ comes from American blacks.



A lot of the really good barbeque that I've had over the years was cooked by some old Black dude. The best mutton I've ever had was some that an old Black man cooked. I'm not a huge fan of mutton, but that was fantastic. I'll give them credit, as most of them know how to cook right.


Duh.

They invented it.

In your part of the world anyway.
Posted By: deflave Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
Originally Posted by slumlord
Originally Posted by JamesJr
I like beef. Never had beef ribs.

But sorry folks, especially you Texas fellows, REAL BBQ is pork, and it's cooked low and slow over a wood fired pit. Not gas, not electric, not in an oven, not warmed up from the grocery store.

I do like brisket, and I have eaten it in Texas. I like chicken cooked on a barbeque pit, and I like mutton. But the real thing is pork.


I've seen pork butts cooked on here, where the guy bragged about trimming the fat-cap off before he 'smoked' it.

😄😄😄😄


But hey, some astronerds claim Pluto is not a planet anymore either.


Yeah I've seen some... interesting... takes on BBQ posted here.
Posted By: deflave Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
Originally Posted by rlott
I cheat like crazy. Instapot.


You use midol for the dry rub?
Posted By: Gus Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
Originally Posted by deflave
Beef everywhere is up. That’s not unique to Georgia.

The reason southern folk think pork is the only form of BBQ is because their BBQ comes from American blacks. That’s all poor people could afford back in the day.

The reason you see beef commonly BBQ’d in Texas is due to German immigrants to their state.


i'll have to check w/Paula Deen for confirmation on all of this.

lot's of stuff came from europe, but did get cooked by blacks.

but lot's of stuff came from africa too. like rice & okra.

brunswick stew came from brunswick, ga.
Posted By: Toddly Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
Originally Posted by SandBilly
I think this is it it, I just don’t remember the guy being that fat. grin


One of the funniest fuggin video I’ve ever watched. I’m curious how a coconut helps a hangover?
Posted By: deflave Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
Sandbilly,

I can't find a recipe that mirrors what I do but if you smoke them at around 250 for two hours, then wrap them in foil and finish them at 275 or so for another three hours you should be good.

Use whatever dry rub or BBQ sauce you usually would.

If you've done brisket successfully you can do a big slab of beef ribs. You certainly can throw some beef broth or beer or whatever in with the foil but I've never found it necessary to do so. I think that's more of a gimmick than anything. Especially on something that seals as well as your Egg.

And be sure you get a SLAB of ribs. Go beast mode.
Posted By: RickyD Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
Originally Posted by SandBilly
10-4 thanks

Just enter traeger recipes in your browser, and you'll get a bunch of BBQ recipes for about everything.

You may not have a Traeger grill, but they list all the ingredients you'll need and the time and temp they need to be cooked for. Hard to mess-up, but sometimes you they do need a little more or less cooking, likely due to elevation.
Posted By: deflave Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
Originally Posted by Gus
Originally Posted by deflave
Beef everywhere is up. That’s not unique to Georgia.

The reason southern folk think pork is the only form of BBQ is because their BBQ comes from American blacks. That’s all poor people could afford back in the day.

The reason you see beef commonly BBQ’d in Texas is due to German immigrants to their state.


i'll have to check w/Paula Deen for confirmation on all of this.

lot's of stuff came from europe, but did get cooked by blacks.

but lot's of stuff came from africa too. like rice & okra.

brunswick stew came from brunswick, ga.


Southern BBQ (actually lots of southern cooking in general) stems from blacks because they had to make due with what most considered the schit cuts at the time. This is a constant with lots of good BBQ.

One of the reason Texas BBQ differs so much from the rest of the country is because it stems from the German migration that took place there in the late 1800's early 19--'s (history buffs feel free to be more granular). Their BBQ was less about flavor and more about preservation. Many German immigrants came from a butchering background. A lot of people think Texas BBQ comes from Mexicans and Texicans but that's only partially true.

Food history is fascinating history. To me anyway.
Posted By: deflave Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
Originally Posted by Toddly

One of the funniest fuggin video I’ve ever watched. I’m curious how a coconut helps a hangover?


The only thing that can hydrate you faster than coconut water is an IV.

I made that video as a joke to my brother. I don't even recall posting it here. LMAO.

My son's a good sport.
Posted By: Gus Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Gus
Originally Posted by deflave
Beef everywhere is up. That’s not unique to Georgia.

The reason southern folk think pork is the only form of BBQ is because their BBQ comes from American blacks. That’s all poor people could afford back in the day.

The reason you see beef commonly BBQ’d in Texas is due to German immigrants to their state.


i'll have to check w/Paula Deen for confirmation on all of this.

lot's of stuff came from europe, but did get cooked by blacks.

but lot's of stuff came from africa too. like rice & okra.

brunswick stew came from brunswick, ga.


Southern BBQ (actually lots of southern cooking in general) stems from blacks because they had to make due with what most considered the schit cuts at the time. This is a constant with lots of good BBQ.

One of the reason Texas BBQ differs so much from the rest of the country is because it stems from the German migration that took place there in the late 1800's early 19--'s (history buffs feel free to be more granular). Their BBQ was less about flavor and more about preservation. Many German immigrants came from a butchering background. A lot of people think Texas BBQ comes from Mexicans and Texicans but that's only partially true.

Food history is fascinating history. To me anyway.



food history is fascinating. wish i knew more about it.

alton brown, jr. in many of his presentations often offers good background.

speaking of blacks, the soul food & the southern food industries are very similar if not identical.

at least there's a lot of overlap. a lot of poor white farmers & settlers ate whatever was available in season.

in season means lot's of wild meat in the winter and lot's of farm produce, & related in the summer & fall.
Posted By: alwaysoutdoors Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
Originally Posted by JamesJr
Originally Posted by deflave
The reason southern folk think pork is the only form of BBQ is because their BBQ comes from American blacks.



A lot of the really good barbeque that I've had over the years was cooked by some old Black dude. The best mutton I've ever had was some that an old Black man cooked. I'm not a huge fan of mutton, but that was fantastic. I'll give them credit, as most of them know how to cook right.

They sure do. If I was wealthy enough to have a staffed kitchen, they be some black folk in de kitchen cooking.
Posted By: kid0917 Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
Originally Posted by Gus
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brunswick stew came from brunswick, ga. [/quote]

Or Brunswick Co., VA
smile
Posted By: deflave Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
Originally Posted by Gus


food history is fascinating. wish i knew more about it.

alton brown, jr. in many of his presentations often offers good background.

speaking of blacks, the soul food & the southern food industries are very similar if not identical.

at least there's a lot of overlap. a lot of poor white farmers & settlers ate whatever was available in season.

in season means lot's of wild meat in the winter and lot's of farm produce, & related in the summer & fall.


Yes depression era cooking certainly played a part.

If you want to read a cool book grab a copy of The Big Oyster.

Assuming you can read. Which I know most southern folk cannot.
Posted By: stxhunter Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Gus
Originally Posted by deflave
Beef everywhere is up. That’s not unique to Georgia.

The reason southern folk think pork is the only form of BBQ is because their BBQ comes from American blacks. That’s all poor people could afford back in the day.

The reason you see beef commonly BBQ’d in Texas is due to German immigrants to their state.


i'll have to check w/Paula Deen for confirmation on all of this.

lot's of stuff came from europe, but did get cooked by blacks.

but lot's of stuff came from africa too. like rice & okra.

brunswick stew came from brunswick, ga.


Southern BBQ (actually lots of southern cooking in general) stems from blacks because they had to make due with what most considered the schit cuts at the time. This is a constant with lots of good BBQ.

One of the reason Texas BBQ differs so much from the rest of the country is because it stems from the German migration that took place there in the late 1800's early 19--'s (history buffs feel free to be more granular). Their BBQ was less about flavor and more about preservation. Many German immigrants came from a butchering background. A lot of people think Texas BBQ comes from Mexicans and Texicans but that's only partially true.

Food history is fascinating history. To me anyway.

Iread somewhere that it came from the Caribbean islands, the natives would cook captives and meat on a open pit.
The Origin of the Word Barbecue. ... The word “barbecue” comes from the Caribbean word “barbacoa.” Originally, a barbacoa wasn't a way of cooking food, but the name of a wooden structure used by Taino Indians to smoke their food.
Posted By: slumlord Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
Have to agree with deflave on the pork and darkies.

Big Daddy and house folk ate high on the hog, the field hands had to make do with tough cuts. They knew to cook those heavy pork muscles long and slow. Maybe they kept the secret as long as they could, but when that fat and collagen is rendered through. It's mighty fine.

Posted By: deflave Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
I don't know that any race or ethnicity can lay claim to BBQ in general since we all started cooking meat over a fire at some point.

But Texas styled BBQ (especially beef and sausages) definitely has roots with Germans and southern style definitely comes from black Americans having to cook up WTF they were allowed. Which typically meant pork and or chicken.

Not BBQ related but I made my first chicken stock with chicken feet last week and goooood, damn! That was good! Grin....
Posted By: deflave Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
Originally Posted by slumlord
Have to agree with deflave on the pork and darkies.

Big Daddy and house folk ate high on the hog, the field hands had to make do with tough cuts. They knew to cook those heavy pork muscles long and slow. Maybe they kept the secret as long as they could, but when that fat and collagen is rendered through. It's mighty fine.



It's funny how many schit cuts are now so expensive. Brisket, skirt, flank, etc.

Pork has stayed pretty low. Thankfully.
Posted By: rlott Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by slumlord
Have to agree with deflave on the pork and darkies.

Big Daddy and house folk ate high on the hog, the field hands had to make do with tough cuts. They knew to cook those heavy pork muscles long and slow. Maybe they kept the secret as long as they could, but when that fat and collagen is rendered through. It's mighty fine.



It's funny how many schit cuts are now so expensive. Brisket, skirt, flank, etc.

Pork has stayed pretty low. Thankfully.


Chicken wings too. 13 bucks a pack when you can buy 2 or 3 times as many drumsticks for 6 bucks!
Posted By: Gus Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
Originally Posted by kid0917
Originally Posted by Gus
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brunswick stew came from brunswick, ga.


Or Brunswick Co., VA
smile
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some where in the back of mind i was skeert there was going to be a bit of dissonance to my comment.

be it as it may, brunswick stew is good no matter from whence it came.

that info was passed orally to me, since my ancestors couldn't hardly read or write.
Posted By: rlott Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by rlott
I cheat like crazy. Instapot.


You use midol for the dry rub?


Lol! No, problem is I rarely have time to do it right, but you can fake it pretty good with that gadget. 40-60 minutes on high in the pressure pot and 30-45 minutes on the grill (charcoal of course) can turn the gnarliest piece of meat into butter and everyone thinks you're a BBQ genius.
Posted By: kid0917 Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
Originally Posted by Gus
Originally Posted by kid0917
Originally Posted by Gus
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brunswick stew came from brunswick, ga.


Or Brunswick Co., VA
smile


some where in the back of mind i was skeert there was going to be a bit of dissonance to my comment.

be it as it may, brunswick stew is good no matter from whence it came.

that info was passed orally to me, since my ancestors couldn't hardly read or write.

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agreed, very tasty wintertime favorite!
Posted By: ltppowell Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
Originally Posted by JamesJr
I like beef. Never had beef ribs.

But sorry folks, especially you Texas fellows, REAL BBQ is pork, and it's cooked low and slow over a wood fired pit. Not gas, not electric, not in an oven, not warmed up from the grocery store.

I do like brisket, and I have eaten it in Texas. I like chicken cooked on a barbeque pit, and I like mutton. But the real thing is pork.


You're right...kinda. BBQ was a way of cooking and entire large animal, generally for special occasions like family reunions or weddings. It was originally done in the ground. There were no grills. A hole would be dug according to the size of the animal(s). The night before the event was the time for the menfolk to play. A fire was keep blazing until late in the night, which the men "tended"...lol. The next morning, dirt was thrown over the hot coals (maybe) and the seasoned meat was wrapped in something...cloth, paper, various leaves, etc. This was placed on the bed of coals and covered...again with something...boards, canvas, more dirt, whatever. 12 hours later, or when it smelled done, it was. The meat was usually cut up or "pulled" and put in a large cauldren of "sauce" to keep warm or finish cooking...it wasn't rocket science. In Texas, cows were money. You only ate them on special occasions. Pigs were crap you had to eat every day out of the smokehouse.

As far as cooking beef ribs...beef ribs are beef. You cook them like beef. They cannot be confused with pork just because they are ribs. It would be no different than thinking a pork chop and a ribeye are the same.
Posted By: deflave Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by JamesJr
I like beef. Never had beef ribs.

But sorry folks, especially you Texas fellows, REAL BBQ is pork, and it's cooked low and slow over a wood fired pit. Not gas, not electric, not in an oven, not warmed up from the grocery store.

I do like brisket, and I have eaten it in Texas. I like chicken cooked on a barbeque pit, and I like mutton. But the real thing is pork.


You're right...kinda. BBQ was a way of cooking and entire large animal, generally for special occasions like family reunions or weddings. It was originally done in the ground. There were no grills. A hole would be dug according to the size of the animal(s). The night before the event was the time for the menfolk to play. A fire was keep blazing until late in the night, which the men "tended"...lol. The next morning, dirt was thrown over the hot coals (maybe) and the seasoned meat was wrapped in something...cloth, paper, various leaves, etc. This was placed on the bed of coals and covered...again with something...boards, canvas, more dirt, whatever. 12 hours later, or when it smelled done, it was. The meat was usually cut up or "pulled" and put in a large cauldren of "sauce" to keep warm or finish cooking...it wasn't rocket science. In Texas, cows were money. You only ate them on special occasions. Pigs were crap you had to eat every day out of the smokehouse.

As far as cooking beef ribs...beef ribs are beef. You cook them like beef. They cannot be confused with pork just because they are ribs. It would be no different than thinking a pork chop and a ribeye are the same.


I agree with the last part.

I don't know where you came up with the rest of that bullschit. That's how schit kicking Mexicans cooked.
Posted By: SandBilly Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
Lmao
Posted By: ltppowell Re: Ribs - 03/01/19
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by JamesJr
I like beef. Never had beef ribs.

But sorry folks, especially you Texas fellows, REAL BBQ is pork, and it's cooked low and slow over a wood fired pit. Not gas, not electric, not in an oven, not warmed up from the grocery store.

I do like brisket, and I have eaten it in Texas. I like chicken cooked on a barbeque pit, and I like mutton. But the real thing is pork.


You're right...kinda. BBQ was a way of cooking and entire large animal, generally for special occasions like family reunions or weddings. It was originally done in the ground. There were no grills. A hole would be dug according to the size of the animal(s). The night before the event was the time for the menfolk to play. A fire was keep blazing until late in the night, which the men "tended"...lol. The next morning, dirt was thrown over the hot coals (maybe) and the seasoned meat was wrapped in something...cloth, paper, various leaves, etc. This was placed on the bed of coals and covered...again with something...boards, canvas, more dirt, whatever. 12 hours later, or when it smelled done, it was. The meat was usually cut up or "pulled" and put in a large cauldren of "sauce" to keep warm or finish cooking...it wasn't rocket science. In Texas, cows were money. You only ate them on special occasions. Pigs were crap you had to eat every day out of the smokehouse.

As far as cooking beef ribs...beef ribs are beef. You cook them like beef. They cannot be confused with pork just because they are ribs. It would be no different than thinking a pork chop and a ribeye are the same.


I agree with the last part.

I don't know where you came up with the rest of that bullschit. That's how schit kicking Mexicans cooked.


The term bbq "pit" wasn't derived from a 55 gallon drum in a Chicago alley.
Posted By: deflave Re: Ribs - 03/02/19
Yeah I know where the term "pit" comes from.

But Texas BBQ isn't derived from pits and burying cow parts in the dirt with some coals. That's schit kicking Mexican BBQ. AKA Barbacoa. AKA Mejilla.
Posted By: ltppowell Re: Ribs - 03/02/19
Originally Posted by deflave
Yeah I know where the term "pit" comes from.

But Texas BBQ isn't derived from pits and burying cow parts in the dirt with some coals. That's schit kicking Mexican BBQ. AKA Barbacoa. AKA Mejilla.


You ain't goin' far enough back cuz.
Posted By: deflave Re: Ribs - 03/02/19
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by deflave
Yeah I know where the term "pit" comes from.

But Texas BBQ isn't derived from pits and burying cow parts in the dirt with some coals. That's schit kicking Mexican BBQ. AKA Barbacoa. AKA Mejilla.


You ain't goin' far enough back cuz.


Aztec?
Posted By: ltppowell Re: Ribs - 03/02/19
It wasn't Obama.
Posted By: deflave Re: Ribs - 03/02/19
Originally Posted by ltppowell
It wasn't Obama.


Are you drunk?
Posted By: ltppowell Re: Ribs - 03/02/19
I'm damn tempted, but gotta fish early in the morning. Have you gone yet?
Posted By: deflave Re: Ribs - 03/02/19
Gone drinking?

Yes.

Fishing?

No.
Posted By: ltppowell Re: Ribs - 03/02/19
We'll, at least tell me you've found a good Cuban restaurant.
Posted By: deflave Re: Ribs - 03/02/19
There's a good one right by us.

But I gotta be honest man... That schit sucks compared to Mexican food. But we got plenty of that too.
Posted By: ltppowell Re: Ribs - 03/02/19
But better than Florida seafood rarm raised in China.
Posted By: SandBilly Re: Ribs - 03/02/19
Oh for fuggs sake. Thought this was a ribs thread. Y’all can bump dicks on a Cruz thread.
Posted By: SandBilly Re: Ribs - 03/02/19
Boogar BBQ, Comin at ya...
Posted By: ltppowell Re: Ribs - 03/02/19
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Oh for fuggs sake. Thought this was a ribs thread. Y’all can bump dicks on a Cruz thread.


Don't be jelly. Trav and I may bump dicks on the internet, but if you were in our company you would be serving us drinks.
Posted By: jaguartx Re: Ribs - 03/02/19
That was funny Jesse. Florida seafood farm raised in China. A very few have a clue.
Posted By: SandBilly Re: Ribs - 03/02/19
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Oh for fuggs sake. Thought this was a ribs thread. Y’all can bump dicks on a Cruz thread.


Don't be jelly. Trav and I may bump dicks on the internet, but if you were in our company you would be serving us drinks.


Possibly, figured you fer the protein shake type.
Posted By: jaguartx Re: Ribs - 03/02/19
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Oh for fuggs sake. Thought this was a ribs thread. Y’all can bump dicks on a Cruz thread.


Don't be jelly. Trav and I may bump dicks on the internet, but if you were in our company you would be serving us drinks.


Oh my Gawd. Well, so much fer havin a clue, Pat.
Posted By: ltppowell Re: Ribs - 03/02/19
You know everything else. You may as well know that too.
Posted By: SandBilly Re: Ribs - 03/02/19
Originally Posted by ltppowell
You know everything else.


That sound familiar?
Posted By: deflave Re: Ribs - 03/02/19
Originally Posted by ltppowell
But better than Florida seafood rarm raised in China.


There's a great seafood place up the road as well.
Posted By: deflave Re: Ribs - 03/02/19
Let's not be contentious gentlemen.

There are drhinks to sirve and blaces to go.
Posted By: ltppowell Re: Ribs - 03/02/19
Originally Posted by deflave
Let's not be contentious gentlemen.

There are drhinks to sirve and blaces to go.


Meh...some people are contentious because they don't have enough conflict in their lives. Some do it for sport. One thing for certain...the anonymity of the internet makes little boys feel brave.
Posted By: SandBilly Re: Ribs - 03/02/19
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by deflave
Let's not be contentious gentlemen.

There are drhinks to sirve and blaces to go.


Meh...some people are contentious because they don't have enough conflict in their lives. Some do it for sport. One thing for certain...the anonymity of the internet makes little boys feel brave.


Lol, and some are jealous..
Posted By: SandBilly Re: Ribs - 03/02/19
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by deflave
Let's not be contentious gentlemen.

There are drhinks to sirve and blaces to go.


Meh...some people are contentious because they don't have enough conflict in their lives. Some do it for sport. One thing for certain...the anonymity of the internet makes little boys feel brave.


Tell ya what, you grow about two feet then call me..
Posted By: deflave Re: Ribs - 03/02/19
Are you two angry with one another?
Posted By: SandBilly Re: Ribs - 03/02/19
Originally Posted by deflave
Are you two angry with one another?


Nah, not angry. I just have a phobia about midgets.
Posted By: BillyGoatGruff Re: Ribs - 03/02/19
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Oh for fuggs sake. Thought this was a ribs thread. Y’all can bump dicks on a Cruz thread.


Don't be jelly. Trav and I may bump dicks on the internet, but if you were in our company you would be serving us drinks.


That's racist
Posted By: deflave Re: Ribs - 03/02/19
Gruff back!

Long live the Campfire!!!
Posted By: jaguartx Re: Ribs - 03/02/19
Sheesh. Pat and Jesse are unknowingly two hard asses cut from the same cloth.

Like two roosters.
Posted By: Toddly Re: Ribs - 03/02/19
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Toddly

One of the funniest fuggin video I’ve ever watched. I’m curious how a coconut helps a hangover?


The only thing that can hydrate you faster than coconut water is an IV.

I made that video as a joke to my brother. I don't even recall posting it here. LMAO.

My son's a good sport.

My kind of folk. Funny as hell, and semi talented.
Posted By: Dryfly24 Re: Ribs - 03/02/19
I’ll take beef ribs over pork anytime, anywhere, anyhow...
Posted By: SandBilly Re: Ribs - 03/02/19
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Sheesh. Pat and Jesse are unknowingly two hard asses cut from the same cloth.

Like two roosters.


Yeah, except I’m not a lib, whiny bitch.
Posted By: crittergetter Re: Ribs - 03/03/19
I'm going to take MOMMA out to Pecan Lodge this week,we love ribs beef or pork.
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