,..for being in possession of the shooting video. 14 years for distributing it.

It seems a bit extreme to me.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019...g-mosque-shooting-video-web-hosts-warned

Idiots

Sounds kinda commie to me.

uh oh , what is it they dont want you to see ?
now many beheading videos carried the same threat?

Absolutely guarantees the video is kept around and relevant...politicians simply never learn.

I'm glad New Zealanders are so free, They'll feel better once they ban all semiauto's.

OTOH, how much time will he actually serve?

This has been and always will be an international effort to white-wash the cult of Islam,while simultaneously threatening white people for exposing this death cult.

Paint these cultists as benign and helpless,so indigenous populations won't be alarmed when they invade your nation and perpetrate cultural jihad.

That would apply if this was a video of Christians being slaughtered by muslims, but it’s just the opposite.

Ya, and that country had farms for sale a few years back and were begging people to come, didn't know it was filled with filthy swine muzzies AND had a .gov in place to protect them.

Like Canada and Britain, NOT ENOUGH!

Our overlords want to keeps access to raw news material out of the hands of mere plebeians.

Freakin Scandinavian troublemakers.

#don’tmakethemuslimsangry

Aliens on the reef.

You're missing the big picture.

Where were the threats of imprisonment, that applied to Jihadi's,who shared thousands of videos of people who were slaughtered by Muslims,who were beheaded by Muslims?

This is another message to white people to never disrespect the cult of Islam or the cretins who participate in it.

They don't want the subjects exposed to too much truth.

Cassius Clay and Lew Alcindor were puppets and too dumb to know it.

how's this for the truth :

INCIDENTS OF TERRORISM WORLDWIDE
In 2016, a total of 11,072 terrorist attacks occurred worldwide, resulting in more than 25,600 total deaths and more than 33,800 people injured. These casualty figures include more than 6,700 perpetrator deaths and 1,600 perpetrator injuries. In addition, more than 15,500 people were kidnapped or taken hostage. In this report we describe patterns of worldwide terrorist activity with respect to changes during the year, geographic concentration, casualties, perpetrator organizations, tactics, weapons, and targets.

Exactly!

How is NZ's 1st amendment worded? Or their 2d? Do they have anything even roughly equivalent?

Correct.

"Necessary Reminder: there is no separation of mosque and state in Islam.

Every single mosque or madrassa is a form of cultural imperialism."

-Niccolo Soldo

Yep. I don't feel one ounce of pity for Muslims being gunned down in a Mosque.

That won't fly here. Just talk. The laws about objectionable material mainly relates to child pornography. The government here can't just do what it wants; there's lawful processes to ensure that doesn't happen. It's a democracy after all. There is a large opposition party, the National party more or less equivalent to your Republican party who will pull them up if required.

I don't know if it can happen there or not. But I know that the fact that it's a Democracy won't prevent it.

If it wasn't for the good old USA and it's many gun owners and finest military in the world the Australians, the New Zealanders and their cousins, the British fog breathers would be speaking Japanese right now. They are ungrateful people who don't deserve help from us any more.

so, more people died from car accidents in the US alone, than in terror attacks worldwide. hmmmm, interesting

I sincerely hope you're wrong about that.

And just why do you think people here are ungrateful for U.S. forces in WWII stopping the japs at the battle of the Coral Sea? Or is this just a figment of your screwed up imagination?

Alot of questions about visiting New Zealand have been answered for me after this tragedy. The government is just as fascist as our own Demonrats. Think I'll pass on a visit.

New Zealand is giving the country to the muslims and liberals. How very sad.

It will soon look like Europe....in chaos!

Its a generational thing with Kiwis.

The older ones like and respect America.

The younger ones....not so much.

Europe is just one or two elections away from another holocaust imho. People will only be pushed so far as history has shown

It wont be Jews this time imho

My father in law still talks about the time when NZ stood up to the US and denied them harbor for nuclear ships.

Fugging near ruined them.

Australia said okay. Worked well for them.

We got all the rotten water buffalo meat we could eat after that.

I hear its the same in S Korea

You might want to look into that.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...acre-faces-14-years-hes-denied-bail.html

Teenager, 18, accused of sharing a live-stream of the Christchurch massacre and writing 'target acquired' next to a photo of a mosque faces 14 years behind bars as he's denied bail

Dumbacracy at work.

Actually, Japan had rejected the idea of invading Australia, and never had a plan for invading NZ either.

It is also worth noting though, that Australia and NZ had been at war for over two years by December 1941, and the US didn't step in to help. When the Japanese attacked you on December 7, we were among the first, if not the first, to declare war on Japan to support you. That is right, we declared war on Japan because they attacked you, not the other way around.

We've never been less than appreciative of the role the US played in the Pacific in WWII though. Our soldiers, sailors and airmen fought and died in that conflict too though, and in fact a significantly higher proportion of our populations lost their lives than did yours.

We have not been anything less than appreciative of the relationship we have had with the US ever since either.We have supported you in every conflict your country has got into since then, though you haven't always supported us, and Australians and Kiwis have laid down their lives .in support of the US in battles all around the world.

And you say we are ungrateful to you. You simply don't know what you are talking about.

There's no hostility towards Australia or New Zealand from Americans.

No disrespect at all intended towards the Aussies nor the Kiwis, but I was under the impression that they declared war on the Japs because the Japs also attacked the British the same time as they attacked the U.S. as well. They did not declare war on the Japs because the Japs attacked the U.S. I am sure they did not appreciate it, though. I am very glad that we all worked together to defeat them.

If it wasn't for the French you would still be an English colony.

You are ill informed and ungrateful...and can stop inviting us to every war you start.

No, because they attacked Pearl Harbour....that was what the declaration of war stated.

The Japanese attacks on Burma and Hong Kong happened within hours of Pearl Harbour, lets just say that the declaration of war was coincidental with three strategic strikes by Japan within a 24hr period. Japan declared war on America and British Empire on 8 December 1941.

The battle of the Coral Sea was perhaps a tactical victory for Japan, a strategic victory for the Allies (America in particular), but ultimately irrelevant.

The first reversal of Japanese fortune, and possibly the single most significant battle of the Pacific Theatre was the Battle of Midway in early June 1942.

On a percentage of armed forces lost to overall population, America is low on the list. The UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand all lost a greater percentage of their population than America.

USA 0.32%
Canada 0.38%
Australia 0.58%
New Zealand 0.72%
UK 0.94%

The numbers look worse for America if you only count military service deaths and disregard civilian deaths.

USA 0.31%
Canada 0.37%
Australia 0.57%
New Zealand 0.72%
UK 0.80%

So who paid the highest price again?


There is enough 'ugly American' getting around on this forum to turn many nations off American presence. The greatest generation would probably be disappointed to see what passes for American culture today. Particularly the unfettered support of some sections of society for a Vietnam War draft dodger.

Damn, the thought police at work!

NZ Gov are fools for making law abiding citizen criminals and want to send them to 10years in prison.

He won't be going anywhere but home to his mother.

And a very articulate and lucid thought police too.

Up to you what you do with your travel plans. However, like most places you'll consider visiting for the first time, it's never like you imagine it to be.

Kick him a little harder!

WWII was won by the Allies, It was a joint effort plain and simple.

I sometimes think its the same with Americans.

If it wasn't for the French you would still be an English colony.
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That is a probable fact. Also, do not make the mistake of thinking the French had any particular great affection for the rebellious American colonies. Nor any disdain, either, for that matter. Our revolution was an avenue for them to fight the British away from Europe. A pretty good strategy that worked quite well for them and benefited us.

It's not my imagination, I guess I spent too much time on LinkedIn listening to the gun grabbers there. I want to live free with my handguns, rifles and shotguns. The idiots who don't want people down under to own anything that is a semi-auto or a handgun are screwed up in my opinion. Anyway, I will never visit there although my late father was a USMC Gunnery Sergeant who spent six months on Guadalcanal and he came back screwed up. Maybe it's hereditary.

The French haven't won anything in two centuries that I know of. I could be wrong though.

They're the undisputed world champs at tank backing, their military tanks have one forward gear and seven reverse gears ; ]

I've got a chitcan sneaking suspicion the shooter was a muzzie!

Sorry about your dad. My father was the same. One morning when I was nine years old I found him sobbing at the breakfast table and he was a hard man or so I thought. My mother said it was the anniversary of some particular battle against the Germans where he'd lost a few of his best friends. My small town has a memorial to all the local young guys who went off to fight in Europe in WWI and WWII and never returned. Also, one in Afghanistan too. Every small or large town in NZ has a memorial. Australia, Canada and Britain (fog breathers) too. I lost an uncle as well. Such a waste, but they did their duty.

The Japanese of course were particularly viscous fighters and eager to die for the emperor. One of the best books I've read on WWII was Eugene Sledge's "With the Old Breed".

If you ever do come down this way I'm sure you'll be welcomed and well treated and enjoy yourself. We're all brothers after all. Good luck and take care of yourself.

Update: The prime minister has announced this afternoon that it will ban all military assault type semi-autos. Other semi-autos such as .22 rimfire, high power hunting semi-auto rifles and semi-auto shotguns will be unaffected. Won't stop the criminals or any terrorists but hey, it'll keep the non gun public happy.

Yes we have the 2nd amendment

Along with corporate bailouts

Fed funded abortions

SS headed to the red at an alarming pace, actually no money in there. Just backed by the full faith of our govt


I’d like to think those down under and other freedom loving folks sprinkled upon this planet don’t cheer those things any more than they,cheered the collapse of the WTC buildings

Saddens me a bit when we look down our nose upon them when their freedoms are curtailed by their govts

Muslim infiltration is a problem in many countries along with ours

But the real battle seems to be joe avg citizen against freedom grabbing govts

For me, I’m just gonna wish my brothers in ideals good luck in whatever battles they face whether against govt sponsored Muslim immigration or attempts to degrade the freedoms they enjoy.

Hope I can count upon them to do the same for us. Our battles may be slightly different, but we have our battles as well.

To all my brothers down under, I wish you well as you navigate through this new development. Cosmoline and shovels are your friend, your govt? Remains to be seen.

The numbers in Canada go way up when you exclude Central Canada. Men work wiped out in some of the western Canadian towns in 1 & 2. Newfoundland also.
Aussies were considered ferocious fighters just like Canadians. I suspect Kiwi's were too.
I know quite a few Canadians that fought in Vietnam and Korea. Nobody will fight tougher than aforementioned.
Our PM 's Dad was a draft Dodger also.Justin was hit with the same hammer- embarrassing. Not acceptable.

Thanks and you can bet your bottom dollar we'll be there with you guys and our other allies when the [bleep] hits the fan. We know which side our bread is buttered on.

I've always liked the Canadians I've met. Kiwis were in Vietnam too. My youngest son's friend was killed in Afghanistan. He grew up in our small town and was a member of the NZSAS (Special Air Service). Good luck with your PM.

You're getting kind of ganged up on up on here. 😁You can tell how passionate we are about our first and second amendment rights. Were a very unique country in the world and outsiders don't understand our love of our constitutional God given rights. Appreciate getting first hand experience ,info regarding NZ news , history and culture. Most of us understand that New Zealand is a jewel in the world and don't want to see it destroyed by Marxists.

Cant wait to get back there trout fishing

I wish we had the 2nd Amendment here.

I love my trout fishing too.

Update: The prime minister has announced this afternoon that it will ban all military assault type semi-autos. Other semi-autos such as .22 rimfire, high power hunting semi-auto rifles and semi-auto shotguns will be unaffected. Won't stop the criminals or any terrorists but hey, it'll keep the non gun public happy.


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Don't worry, they'll be back after those shortly............

Sure hate it for ya'll.

Actually JSTUART, I recently visited the Yorktown Battlefield for the full tour and a lot of info on the American Revolutionary War. If you ever get back to the states and are in that area you should check it out, I believe you'd enjoy it! What really happened was the internal strife within the British command between Generals Clinton and Cornwallis. To keep it short, Clinton screwed over Cornwallis, General Washington took advantage of it with a huge gamble and it paid off. The inbound French fleet scared the British Naval fleet to NY and left Cornwallis without any support and trapped in their redoubts with no recourse and got creamed for it. The French did eventually arrive with their ships and blockaded the bay so they stopped any chance for retreat as well as reinforcements. There was a contingent of French during the battle but their Navy refused to go any further than the blockade. It was Washington that won that day and if you visit you would leave without any doubts of whom won that battle strategically. I know all us english speakers pick on the French, but I am proud of the ones that were there to help in the melee - the French even send someone there periodically to honor the French soldiers that lost their lives on the battlefield and are proud of it just like we are of our boys who were lost at Normandy. Yorktown was the last battle, but the war wasn't officially over until a year or so later; the British blew it and their top two generals kept their feud going for the rest of their lives without any real recourse materializing.

I am also proud of the fact that we are allies along with NZ, Canada, Britain, and the others. WWI was probably the [bleep] of warring hell, and your crew fighting the Turks is both admiral and heartbreaking. I know this much, if anyone stormed your or zeissman's shores you can bet your ass we'd be there to make them pay dearly for it! I don't understand every conflict in the world and don't believe we want to be everywhere playing cop and dragging you with us or vice versa, but the alternative may be much worse if we stop watching each other's six!

I wish OZ and NZ both had a 2nd Amendment, we know what it means here in the states and those that care will defend it with our lives. It's just hard to imagine fine countries like yours' not having the 2A.

Anyway, best to our friends and those that lost their lives to maintain it as such!

Thanks 4winds.

I can see that some people, maybe a lot of people, won't hand in their AR's etc. thus making themselves criminals. Most aren't registered as it wasn't required, so the reality is they don't know how many are out there. The buy back is estimated to cost $100 - $200 million out of a licensed population of 250,000.

My neighbour poked her ugly head over the fence today and said she was pleased that all semi-auto's have been banned. I said, "they haven't been, only assault type semis". She replies, "oh! that's a shame, they're the machine gun ones aren't they"? I tell you, firearm ignorance is rampant.

As for the candlelight vigils, 80-90% female. They love our female Prime Minister.

I wish you did too, it'd make us all that much stronger.

I don't love NZ, I don't love NZ's government. I love my brothers living in NZ.
Best wishes, Kiwis!

We enjoy rubbishing you lot when we can but we damn well know you are reliable friends...yeah okay...those damn Kiwis can play too.


There are an awful lot of Australians that envy you that 2nd...really really envy!

He is on the way out...We will return a Conservative Gov't.
He was elected because we didn't get our vote out- clearly embarrassing.
Yeah, Canada has lost many in Afghanistan.
On Nov 11 / armistice day ,we see many young people attending, Good young people.

Draft dodger?

You must be referring to Bill Clinton the rapist