Amazing how many blame the three wheeler for incompetent operators too. I can’t tell you how many times someone has told me how dangerous they are. Same folks often have no problem with street bikes.
I loved those death traps..... seriously back in the day I had a big red and a 250R watercooled two stroke.. that thing was a beast. I painted the big red camo and it was my hunting rig. The 250R was for shredding the dunes.... damn good times and lived to tell about it...
Good riddance. I hated the things. But I raced motocross on two wheels. Could not force myself to turn handlebars. Embarrassed myself on my friends 3-wheeler.
Guy I used to work for brought home a 250R one day on the flatbed of his welding rig. He told me to unload it and tear it up a little. When I asked him where his ramp was he called me a puzzy, fired it up and dumped the clutch enough to pull the front wheel up while he jumped it off the bed and tore across the pasture.
I rode it enough to know that it was tons of fun but too much power for my skill. Probably rode 50k miles on a 1985 250SX though, slower more civilized 4 stroke machine with about 5x the suspension of the BigRed.
I bought the last Big Red 250 3-wheeler our dealer sold. Rode it almost every day for over 20 years. It was way better than any 4 wheeler for sharp turns when corralling cattle. Not as good as a horse but always saddled and ready to go. I wish I could buy another one just like it. It was $100 dollars cheaper than the 4-wheeler. It was raggedy but running good when I sold it to a neighbor kid and he blew it up in 2 weeks. Some things are just dangerous if you aren't careful, like horses and chainsaws, and worst of all probably snow skiing.
I loved those death traps..... seriously back in the day I had a big red and a 250R watercooled two stroke.. that thing was a beast. I painted the big red camo and it was my hunting rig. The 250R was for shredding the dunes.... damn good times and lived to tell about it...
Good riddance. I hated the things. But I raced motocross on two wheels. Could not force myself to turn handlebars. Embarrassed myself on my friends 3-wheeler.
My first bike was a KX60 and I have said for many years that "two wheels are safer than four."
I've actually seen this proven via statistics too.
But, if you watch the video you can see the left wing dick heads trying to chip away at the quad and the dirt bike too.
I always looked forward to a shiny new (to us) red Honda ATV .We only had utility models. That must have been an automatic with the hi lo range selector .
Guy I used to work for brought home a 250R one day on the flatbed of his welding rig. He told me to unload it and tear it up a little. When I asked him where his ramp was he called me a puzzy, fired it up and dumped the clutch enough to pull the front wheel up while he jumped it off the bed and tore across the pasture.
I rode it enough to know that it was tons of fun but too much power for my skill. Probably rode 50k miles on a 1985 250SX though, slower more civilized 4 stroke machine with about 5x the suspension of the BigRed.
Those suckers could sure crawl up the back of your leg if you made a bad move, but they were fun as heck. Buddy of mine had a pair in the early 80s and we rode the piss outa them. Good times!
Good riddance. I hated the things. But I raced motocross on two wheels. Could not force myself to turn handlebars. Embarrassed myself on my friends 3-wheeler.
My first bike was a KX60 and I have said for many years that "two wheels are safer than four."
I've actually seen this proven via statistics too.
But, if you watch the video you can see the left wing dick heads trying to chip away at the quad and the dirt bike too.
If it's fun, they hate it.
Yes two wheels are much safer. When you crash they tend to lay down. The three wheelers have bouncy tires and tend to flip forward and smash yo ass. The quads are a little better but still have the bouncy ball tires
Yes two wheels are much safer. When you crash they tend to lay down. The three wheelers have bouncy tires and tend to flip forward and smash yo ass. The quads are a little better but still have the bouncy ball tires
did all the big reds have the hi lo range down by your leg or was that certain models /years?
Some of the models 1984 and older had it , Maybe only the Big Reds and SX's. I bought a new 1984 model in 1985, shoulda bought the '85. It had a rear shock. A lot better ride.
I spent a lot of time on the ATC 110 packing a shovel back in the late 70s. Yes, it beat walking out to the meadows to irrigate. And it was quicker than saddling a horse.
But I would not trade a dozen three wheelers for my Suzuki Vinson 500 4x4 with hi/lo. I have a little trailer on which I can haul up to a ton of hay to feed the stock. Have never seen a three wheeler that could handle that chore.
did all the big reds have the hi lo range down by your leg or was that certain models /years?
Some of the models 1984 and older had it , Maybe only the Big Reds and SX's. I bought a new 1984 model in 1985, shoulda bought the '85. It had a rear shock. A lot better ride.
Not sure about the older ones but the 1985 SX was a straight clutchless 5 speed, no hi lo. Dad and his brother bought a pair to replace their ATC185s. Those 250sxs were ridden at least weekly from 85 until my uncle sold his in about 2002 and Dads gas tank rotted out. We helped the guy who bought uncle’s load up dad’s the day I left for Alaska in 2007. He used it for parts after dad gave it to him, he’s still riding one of them.
Had a bud with an ATC 185, rough riding suspensionless mofo but it would scoot. His dad used it to tow their dragsters around the pits and had it souped up. Bought it blown up and put an oversized piston in it and worked the head and carb.
Another buddy had a 350X with an extended trailing arm.
I rode one when I was a kid. Maybe 10 or 12. Ended up running over my own leg. Lol. I was used to 2 wheels and that outboard rear wheel ate my lunch.
Never really saw many of them.
We all had dirt bikes except for a couple folks with 4 wheelers, the hot chick that lived down the road and a buddy who’s dad thought motorcycles were too dangerous and got him a little quad. My first bike was a YZ 80. ‘85 or ‘86. The thing was a screamer.
I had a 250 Big Red w/reverse for a short while back years ago. Let my son drive it a few times just putting around the backyard. After a few times he got a bit too over confident too soon to my liking. Went outside and saw it missing one day then heard it it zooming around over on a nearby vacant lot.I walked over there and saw he had that thing airborne jumping dirt hills. Being my son I knew he was prone to pushing things to their limits and beyond his ability to control so I sold it soon after. No more ATVs since but still have my son.
Daughter-in-law's dad was killed when his 4 wheeler flipped over on top of him. She was about 16 years old and our son had just started dating her. She was home alone at the time and found her dad out behind their house a little ways with the heavy machine on top of him. They lived pretty far out in the boonies and she had to wait there close to an hour with her dead dad for first responders to arrive,
Young guy I used to work with was out with a group of friends and their families riding 4 wheelers one weekend. Fun weekend for all until one of them flipped and killed a toddler that was riding with it's dad.
I probably put 100,000 miles on a 110 Honda as a kid. It didn't shut off all day long. We had some 125's, 185's, 200's and grandpa had a couple Big Reds. I've picked up a couple the last five years to relive my childhood. '85 200X and an '87 250X (white plastic). They are a hoot!
They fit nice in the back of the pick-up or bucket of the track hoe when I'm moving stuff around and no need for ramps.
Honda 200X and I got along pretty good. I had '83, '84 and an '86. I almost did a full barrel roll on one, ALMOST. I was cool and had front fender extenders on 'em all!
I would love to find a Pilot. 2stroke Odyssey with an upgraded suspension. They didn’t make them long and they were screamers. If you can find one the don’t come cheap.
I've always known they were dangerous ever since the blonde chick on CHiP's got kidnapped by them Hell's Angels and tried to make her get-away on that trike and flipped.
My 13 year old son has an '86 250. He worked out a deal with his great Uncle, who was the original owner, to work on his ranch for a couple weeks to get it, he was 10 at the time. I was proud as heck of him for doing his own negotiating, and holding up his end of the deal.
I have a mint condition 84 big red 200cc engine. didn't have a hand clutch, but you shifted the gears by foot petal. It has a hi/lo switch on the left side. And yes i did run it up my leg one time, that's when you learn to not put your foot down. Had two shocks on the front, rear suspension was just the tires. I keep it in some ways because the gooberment didn't want me to have it. in sand it works real well. in mud and on roads with a lot of ruts, it gets entertaining.
I started with a 3 wheeler, but when the 4 wheelers came out, I've got no use for the 3 wheeler. When it comes to 4 wheelers, I've got many a mile on one of several brands and models. Mostly Yamaha, Kawasaki, Honda, etc. Sorry I sold mine when I left Alaska but it's just not the same.
Gd you do some serious ph ucking donuts on one of them. The Rez i grew up on seemed like everyone had one. Nothing better than drunk Indians, 3 wheelers trying to outrun the tribal cops..
yea I can attest to having one run up your leg. Had the idle set too high and started it in gear. Things pops a wheelie and instinctively you try to plant your feet right in front of two baloon tires.It turns from 3 wheeler to steam roller. I limped around for 2 days.
Dad had one of these out in Colorado. Kawasaki 250 Prairie. Used it for elk hunting from 1988 to 2003. When dad moved back here he gave it to me. Had it for 4 more years until the bottom end seized up. Had a knob on the left rear wheel hub you would turn to lock in the rear axle. Would climb a tree but tough to steer, would push that front wheel in a turn. Never wrecked it though.Shot a mule deer buck once and couldn't find dad. Couldn't get it on the rear rack. Tied it to drag but couldn't get up one steep hill, it would wheelie half way up no matter how much I leaned forward. Finally got up and was so tired I dragged it on the road all the way out. Tenderized the right side and took off most of the hide.
I've never heard of that Kawasaki. You'd think as much as I scour craigslist, one would have come up on the used market. Looks like there is a master cylinder on it, real shocks on the front - very clean design.
Yeah I think it did have a master. Speedo too. Had it up to 42 mph at 9000' at dad's once. When I got it back here I was older and wiser and never cracked on it. When coming down out of the mountains you you put that front wheel in one of the grooves in the road and let the 2 rear wheels ride each side. It was quite a workout.
Wife had two sisters. One sister and her husband bought a couple three wheelers for their kids to run on the family farm. The farm kids and our daughters ran the three wheelers all over the farm for months without incident. Had a family reunion on the farm. Sister number three showed up with her hellions. Wrecked both three wheelers in less than two hours. Including turning one upside down on a pregnant passenger.
Like the old saying "It's the Indian, not the bow...", with three wheelers, many (most?) of the issues were the BIKER, not the bike.
yea I can attest to having one run up your leg. Had the idle set too high and started it in gear. Things pops a wheelie and instinctively you try to plant your feet right in front of two baloon tires.It turns from 3 wheeler to steam roller. I limped around for 2 days.
Missing a wheel but from the same time period....I resurrected this one several years back. I've been busy with other projects and it sat for two years until last week...I cleaned it, check fluids, replaced the battery, fresh gas and hit the button !!!
... Sister number three showed up with her hellions. Wrecked both three wheelers in less than two hours. Including turning one upside down on a pregnant passenger.
Like the old saying "It's the Indian, not the bow...", with three wheelers, many (most?) of the issues were the BIKER, not the bike.
too many video games evident there in the 3rd sister's kids. It was hilarious watching my 13 YO son and a friend ride 4 wheelers for the first time. They thought they could just romp on the throttle, as if in a v-game. Took them a while to understand the real-life mechanics and physics of the Yamaha Big Bear.
Missing a wheel but from the same time period....I resurrected this one several years back. I've been busy with other projects and it sat for two years until last week...I cleaned it, check fluids, replaced the battery, fresh gas and hit the button !!!
Yamaha still makes the tw200 alot of aftermarket support for the too. Gas pack mule.
In '85 an Old Boy built THE Oddy-Saki...which was a Honda Odyssey frame,mated to a 600cc 'zuki powerplant. The bitch RAN like a raped fhuqking ape,though "suspension" was LIMITING.
'Nother pard mated a Chevelle body to a 'Burban Big Block Frame and rallied THE fhuqk outta it. 48" Swampers were THE schit and 36" Buckshots what you gave your Prom Date.
I fail to see where a Four-Wheeler is any less dangerous than a Three-Wheeler. I thought at the time, the companies making them were behind the anti-three-wheeler push and resultant laws. IMO it was because the originals were so good that everybody had them and they weren't selling new ones so good and needed something to jump start the market. This plus as I remember it the Four Wheelers were a lot more expensive than the Three's.
Old trucks were a whole lot less expensive than new ones and it ain't all inflation. New trucks have a lot more features (and are a lot better IMO than ones made in the 70's and even 80's). It's comparing apples and oranges though as 'til the mid seventies hardly any trucks had four wheel drive and now they are extremely common plus the popularity of extended cabs and full four doors which were hardly ever seen until the late eighties or so. Same thing with four wheels vs. three. The three wheelers were great, bargain vehicles mostly with a lot fewer features than four wheelers.
Good riddance. I haven't seen one in years and never want to ride another one. I grew up riding dirt bikes and motorcycles, but those 3 wheelers handled completely differently. My buddy had a Big Red and he could ride it well, but not me. I'd lean one way like on my dirt bikes and the wheeler would go the other way! Around a corner I'd put my foot down and the back tire would try to run over my leg. The last straw was trying to get the thing back to camp through a 10 acre open area with one tree out in the middle. It was like that tree was a magnet and reeling me in to hit it. Four wheelers are way better for me.
You’re not supposed to put your feet down on a four wheeler either.
And I admit the three wheel configuration makes little sense. But if you watch that 60 minutes report you can see they want to ban bikes and quads too. They’ve just been unsuccessful at it.
60 Minutes used to air letters from readers at the end of each program. A few weeks after this segment aired they read a letter from a viewer that was very well written. The viewer pointed out that it pure hypocrisy for 60 minutes to villainize the 3 wheeler when a week or two previous 60 Minutes aired a segment praising the virtues of the Ferrari (Testarossa or Countach can't recall which). The letter was well written, it used some of 60 Minutes own benchmarks for comparing safety, and the 60 Minutes spokesman was noticeably chagrined and unhappy at having to be the one to admit that there was nothing objective about their reports on the 2 vehicles. Essentially, the Ferrari was more dangerous then the 3 wheeler when using the same comparisons that 60 Minutes had used.
Amazing how many blame the three wheeler for incompetent operators too. I can’t tell you how many times someone has told me how dangerous they are. Same folks often have no problem with street bikes.
I believe they were banned due to young children flipping them. Another case of unattentive parenting. A simple roll bar would have solved the problem. Like the eary jeeps. No roll over protection
They discontinued the Yamaha Rhino for the same reasons.Never had rollover issues with mine.People rolling and wrecking them that should have never owned a four wheeler in the first place...As to the three wheelers,I had two of the mini's I got in a trade and two of the big ones...At the time they worked...I would take another one at the right price.
Yes two wheels are much safer. When you crash they tend to lay down. The three wheelers have bouncy tires and tend to flip forward and smash yo ass. The quads are a little better but still have the bouncy ball tires
Not if you take it down to the local tire store and have 8 ply radials mounted up. My Vinson has no bounce from the tires at all, and is quite resistant to puncture vine. But you do have to slow down a bit in rough stuff, or it will shake your teeth out,
I had a Yamaha 225 shaft drive, That thing scared the heck out of me. Used it to get from one field to the next and for hunting. An interesting fact, toward the end of the 3 wheelers when the government was shutting them down there was a company that came out with a front end kit that converted the front end from a single to a steering axle making it a four wheeler. A friend of mine put it on his Honda 250R. Wow was that a ride.
We had a bunch of em over the years. My cousin broke his pelvis riding my dads. We got rid of em when 4 wheelers came out. I think it was about '94-95 I went to Ontario on a bear hunt. We got on the far side of North Bay and I HAD to call my dad. 3 wheelers everywhere! If the Canadians didnt have a 3 wheeler they had an Argo. You played hell to find either around our house at the time.
I traded a nice 82 XR250 dirt bike for a new 85 ATC 200x. One hour into my first ride I thought, what the heck have I done? I traded something I could ride for this damn thing. I got used to it, had fun & traded next year for a new 86 because they had changed the entire platform. A much better unit. Was a little wild back then & had a growing ex-ray file at the ER. Had fun though. I wasn't really sorry to see the fad die.
Now it's just a grandpaw 450 Honda 4x4. I wouldn't mind having a side by side but the cost of new is ridiculous IMO, & ain't about to buy a used one that I don't know the owner or history.
I remember as a kid seeing three wheelers and Honda Odyssey single seaters just about everywhere it seemed like.
I was in my 20's before I ever rode one. My brother had a souped up 3 wheeler of some type. I rode it a few times and figured I had broke enough bones.
Used one as a kid to check fences. Didnt drive it like an idiot so never had a problem with it.
Also drove narrow front end tractors so I knew they could be tippy on steep slopes. I knew that the higher the speed whether on a tractor or 3 wheeler the easier they were to roll. Guess it's important to protect idiots from themselves.
Was watching a young fellow practice riding what I assume was a new to him fairly good size 4 wheeler out in a sports field behind work one afternoon. He started off just putt-putting around slowly on the level playing field then after a little while tried driving it down into about a 4' deep ditch and trying to get it to go back up the other side. The other side of the ditch was steeper and he couldn't make it climb all of he way up and out of the ditch so he kept giving it more and more throttle. Last time he tried he fired it up big time and came close to making it out too until it damn near tipped over backwards on top of him. Luckily it went back down right side up. I would imagine several hundred pounds of steel and plastic falling from that high and landing on top of someone probably could be painful at the very least.
Per haps the 250R will go MUCH faster but it should NOT be. - It's not the general public's responsibility to protect FOOLS from themselves & their own FOOLISHNESS. (My Chrysler convertible will EXCEED 115MPH on the public highway. - That's doesn't mean that anyone should operate it in that fashion.)
My family used our Honda 250 responsibly on our family farm, for YEARS & YEARS.
I agree Jim, two wheeler's are much more forgiving... the problem being two wheeler fundamentals will get you hurt on a three wheeler. Example... putting a foot down to turn is a sure way to get your leg mangled...... the body english required are direct opposites also.
It took me awhile to transition back and forth. Quads don't seem to have this problem.
The two wheeler can teach the mechanical fundamentals... kill switch, shifting, braking etc.....
It is probably best three wheeler's are a thing of the past.... fun while they lasted though
I agree Jim, two wheeler's are much more forgiving... the problem being two wheeler fundamentals will get you hurt on a three wheeler. Example... putting a foot down to turn is a sure way to get your leg mangled...... the body english required are direct opposites also.
It took me awhile to transition back and forth. Quads don't seem to have this problem.
The two wheeler can teach the mechanical fundamentals... kill switch, shifting, braking etc.....
It is probably best three wheeler's are a thing of the past.... fun while they lasted though
There is that about the leg.
Same thing with snowmobiles. Bike guys always want to stick that leg out.
Had a Big Red back in the mid 80's for getting around in the Everglades but somehow avoided killing myself, or even crashing it. Imagine that. Maybe kids should learn to fly choppers before going airborne on a 3 wheeler?
Had a Big Red back in the mid 80's for getting around in the Everglades but somehow avoided killing myself, or even crashing it. Imagine that. Maybe kids should learn to fly choppers before going airborne on a 3 wheeler?
Hey Dan.
I think I could fly a chopper pretty good but nobody lets me give it a go.
Had a Big Red back in the mid 80's for getting around in the Everglades but somehow avoided killing myself, or even crashing it. Imagine that. Maybe kids should learn to fly choppers before going airborne on a 3 wheeler?
Hey Dan.
I think I could fly a chopper pretty good but nobody lets me give it a go.
Brother Flave, I think in your case you should start with three wheelers... I hear the 250R is nice beginners bike.....
Had a Big Red back in the mid 80's for getting around in the Everglades but somehow avoided killing myself, or even crashing it. Imagine that. Maybe kids should learn to fly choppers before going airborne on a 3 wheeler?
Hey Dan.
I think I could fly a chopper pretty good but nobody lets me give it a go.
Which ones the collective?
You run that with your feet right?
All I know about helicopters is that they have little bitty fire extinguishers and fuel switches.
When you crash you shut the switches off and find the fire extinguisher.
Remember that the extinguisher is for your friends.....not the aircraft.
Oh, also....when giving a pre flight briefing make damn sure they listen and allow no one to walk towards the tail rotor. Not even Jesus or the President Himself.
Wow ! What memories , and a couple of broken collar bones to boot. Started on one of those 200 S’s before moving on to a 1985 250 R. Sold the 250 R after the 2 nd broken collar bone, and went to a 250 four trac.
All I know about helicopters is that they have little bitty fire extinguishers and fuel switches.
When you crash you shut the switches off and find the fire extinguisher.
Remember that the extinguisher is for your friends.....not the aircraft.
Oh, also....when giving a pre flight briefing make damn sure they listen and allow no one to walk towards the tail rotor. Not even Jesus or the President Himself.
Wow ! What memories , and a couple of broken collar bones to boot. Started on one of those 200 S’s before moving on to a 1985 250 R. Sold the 250 R after the 2 nd broken collar bone, and went to a 250 four trac.
All I know about helicopters is that they have little bitty fire extinguishers and fuel switches.
When you crash you shut the switches off and find the fire extinguisher.
Remember that the extinguisher is for your friends.....not the aircraft.
Oh, also....when giving a pre flight briefing make damn sure they listen and allow no one to walk towards the tail rotor. Not even Jesus or the President Himself.
Flave since you are so mean to me you are no longer my brother.... ha You might want to PM , MCH he knows everything and people with hello's , he even wrenches on them maybe he could help you bumm a flyin gig? Just remember , hold my beer and watch this is frowned upon in the hello world....
Yeah, that's obvious. They're uptight as fugk. Not sure how Dan gets to drive one and I don't.
You should make MCH your BFF......
And the only reason Dan was allowed to fly them contraptions was cuz he was getting shot at.... nobody wanted that gig at the time.. He is a barbarian and the perfect man for the job though....
I was all ready to be certified as a HECM.....or Helicopter Crew Member.
That was before they decided they would have to burn fuel in order to get the useful load high enough to take me along. We did load calcs and I was the load........
They made trikes even more evil that the mighty 250R. Google 500 Tiger trike. Bucket list right there.
I got dinged up a few times on ATC's as a kid but I was also hauling cow manure out in the pasture among other farm chores by myself at age 7 with a tractor. Grow up tough and smart or die I guess.
Deflave, if you want to fly, hit me up. I have a couple flying machines and I don't give a crap about rules.
I was all ready to be certified as a HECM.....or Helicopter Crew Member.
That was before they decided they would have to burn fuel in order to get the useful load high enough to take me along. We did load calcs and I was the load........
They made trikes even more evil that the mighty 250R. Google 500 Tiger trike. Bucket list right there.
I got dinged up a few times on ATC's as a kid but I was also hauling cow manure out in the pasture among other farm chores by myself at age 7 with a tractor. Grow up tough and smart or die I guess.
Deflave, if you want to fly, hit me up. I have a couple flying machines and I don't give a crap about rules.
I just googled that Tiger and it looks cool as fugk. MN built too, eh?
Same video says KTM made one? That's insane.
I don't make it to MN often but if I do I'll hit you up. I've flown planes but never a helicopter. Would be fun to get smashed and take one for a spin.
Had a Big Red back in the mid 80's for getting around in the Everglades but somehow avoided killing myself, or even crashing it. Imagine that. Maybe kids should learn to fly choppers before going airborne on a 3 wheeler?
Hey Dan.
I think I could fly a chopper pretty good but nobody lets me give it a go.
Flyin'm is easy, it's the hovering part that'll phuoc up your head. At first.
Three wheelers were the next big thing when I was learning to hunt, and riding double was common. It was hard to go a weekend without falling off one, even at low speed. I ran out and bought a 200 Big Red and managed to hit a rut and flip over the handlebars. I landed on my back and had managed to break my wrist of the hand that was mashing the throttle at the time I hit the rut. I had to switch the throttle of the machine to the left side, put camo tape on the cast, and learn to shoot a scoped rifle left handed for one season. I also had to learn to write left handed or a couple of months. (ETA: I had to learn to shift the manual transmission of my Toyota truck left handed.)
Every lawyer I ran into (a LOT) wanted to sue Honda for me, but I told them I knew they were dangerous and I knowingly took the risk. At least I had a better story than the people who broke their wrist tripping over the family dog or their kid’s toy.
Haven't had any mishaps yet with 4 wheeled ATVs and UTVs.
I remember when we were young teens, a friend of mine had the 110 or 125, and after a flood he was riding around, got to the waters edge, hopped off and it floated. He swam it across to the other side of the field where the water was low. I was jealous of him with my XR75
Haven't seen one in years. The ones I remember just looked unstable when being ridden hard. Girl I used to know almost lost her husband to one in the late '70's IIRC..... They were both mid to late 20's at the time. He was out of work a very long time and his back is screwed up permanently. Late 1980's some young guys down the road had one and every time that thing went by it was bouncing like it was gonna go out of control...... It finally did and took out my mailbox doing it..... The kid was thrown clear and flew across the ditch and landed in our front yard. I was at work at the time but I heard he got banged up pretty good but no broken bones. I'd ride one if I had a chance but I damn sure would be taking it slow and easy. I don't trust those things above 10 mph or so.
Jumped the driveway on the 200s as a young kid...didn't weigh enough to stick the landing and it started to hobby horse bounce and threw me over the bars. Felt the helmet squeeze sideways on my noggin as the wheeler planted itself on my head. That was a good learning experience.
That was the only motorized wheeled thing I rode as a kid, and ever since, a 4-wheeler doesn't feel right. With the 3 wheeler, your limitations on slopes and turns are clearly communicated to you by the machine...much less so on 4 wheels.
Oddly enough, IF you aren't a moron & try to run one FAR faster than "a reasonably normal IQ" would suggest, the Honda 250 is NICE & you wouldn't believe some of the things that we towed around the farm with it.
Ours pulled many a load of livestock feed all over the place, as well as loads of lumber, fencing material, bales of hay, deer stands & other BIG/bulky things.
Tex I feel that you may be confusing a regular old 4 stroke ATC250, or a BigRed with the 250 that Irfubar is describing. The 250r was a two stroke sport bike that was built and bred to go really fast, maybe the original suicide machine. Nobody pokes around and checks fence on an R, they’re geared and tuned to rip it up on motocross trails and in the dunes.
Oddly enough, IF you aren't a moron & try to run one FAR faster than "a reasonably normal IQ" would suggest, the Honda 250 is NICE & you wouldn't believe some of the things that we towed around the farm with it.
Ours pulled many a load of livestock feed all over the place, as well as loads of lumber, fencing material, bales of hay, deer stands & other BIG/bulky things.
It's been a LONG time ago & you may well be 100% correct. - It was likely a 4-cycle, as you didn't have to mix gas/oil. Yes, I know that a FEW 2-stroke engines have NOT used gas/oil "mix")
My Uncle Wayne bought it used for "a song" after it was taken away from a teenaged boy by his dad for "acting stupid".
TRUE but at least I'm not a Florida cracker. (Instead, I'm just a NETX Hillbilly, born/raised.)
Btw, To quote my much beloved grandfather: "Never ask a fellow if he's a Texican, as he'll tell you if he is. Otherwise, there's no point in shaming him."
It's been a LONG time ago & you may well be 100% correct. - It was likely a 4-cycle, as you didn't have to mix gas/oil. Yes, I know that a FEW 2-stroke engines have NOT used gas/oil "mix")
My Uncle Wayne bought it used for "a song" after it was taken away from a teenaged boy by his dad for "acting stupid".
Having ridden several versions of 3 wheelers, i'm glad they stopped making them or I probably would have been dead a long time ago. That Honda 250R topped them all.
A family here in my little hometown won a $40M award from Honda after one of their chilrens was nearly killed on one. Not too many years later the family went all to pieces and the attorney went to prison on federal drug charges.
So I thought anything with more than two-wheels was pretty stupid. Grin...
Neighbor had a KX??[something], loved smoking his azz on my XR75... His was pure racing mine was pure stock but as mentioned prior-the rider makes a difference.
I had a Big Red. I would let other guys drive it, guys that were used to motorcycles. Always they would try to ride it like a motorcycle, and it would dump them or roll on them. I didn't have that problem. When I went into a fast turn I hooked my knee on the seat and leaned in real low. Keeping the center of gravity as low as possible.
These were some pretty good reads. Oh, the memories of chewed legs from those. Fun as hell tho. Kyhilljack, that avatar of your's is priceless. Friggin' great!
Was watching a young fellow practice riding what I assume was a new to him fairly good size 4 wheeler out in a sports field behind work one afternoon. He started off just putt-putting around slowly on the level playing field then after a little while tried driving it down into about a 4' deep ditch and trying to get it to go back up the other side. The other side of the ditch was steeper and he couldn't make it climb all of he way up and out of the ditch so he kept giving it more and more throttle. Last time he tried he fired it up big time and came close to making it out too until it damn near tipped over backwards on top of him. Luckily it went back down right side up. I would imagine several hundred pounds of steel and plastic falling from that high and landing on top of someone probably could be painful at the very least.
Had a buddy roll an 05 Honda Rubicon over on top of himself going down a super steep hill called Monument. He had just converted those crappy front brakes over to disc and never checked to see if they needed adjusting. Going down the hill he built up a little too much speed and hit the front brakes and over she went. Broke a couple of ribs and bruised his heart but he got lucky and survived it.
I started on a the little 70cc honda "mini" big red when i was about 6yrs old, and then got a 110cc utility, If I remember correctly they were 79 and 82 models or there bouts. I believe the little 70 had a 3 speed and the 110 was a 4 speed both with auto clutch. The 110 had the hi-lo switch and it was a pullin machine in low gear. Man I miss those.