I have a set on Yonex irons that came with both a PW and a 10 iron. They look the same. Any difference you know of in loft?




SW on right

Never heard of a 10 iron till now.

Did you Google it?

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First one I’ve ever seen.

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Don't know about a 10 iron but dad always said if you were caught out on the links during a thunderstorm to hold up a 1 iron because even God couldn't hit it.

The pitching wedge is the lowest-lofted club typically called a wedge. It lies on the cusp between the numbered irons and the wedges (in fact it is sometimes labelled the "10-iron"), and is useful for a variety of short shots from firm or semi-soft lies. The traditional pitching wedge had a loft of about 50-52°, but the "de-lofting" of modern cavity back irons including the pitching wedge has resulted in a loft range centering on 48°.

Google is the best.

Yes I did. Could not find a definitive answer. One golf forum said they are the same, but I ask why did I receive both with the set?

Not google nor will it ever be google anything, I hate fugging Google. But yes, search and ye will find.

Your pic could be deceiving but the the #10 looks to be fatter/heavier and a different angle where the shaft meets the head. Also the face on the 10 looks to be a bit wider in the pic. Why both, don’t know. Why play pasture pool, don’t know. What I do know is that the wedge looks used and the 10 doesn’t. Hint maybe. 😀

I didn't actually "google" it. Just like I don't actually use a "Kleenex" when I use a "facial tissue." I did "Duck Duck Go" it though.

I wouldn’t be worth a damn with either one

I haven't used the 10 because of the 14 club rule and I always use the PW when I would use a 10. But now, I am rethinking this, and short of taking them both down to the pro shop and have them measure the loft, I figured someone here may know.

JK. My dads set of clubs had an 11 iron. I thought it was a pitching wedge but maybe it was sand?

The difference? A few degrees of loft. You’re welcome.

I've never heard of a 10 iron until now.



Your Dad is Lee Trevino? Cool

Technically, there's no such thing as a USGA sanctioned 10 iron. Like the pitching wedge, gap wedge, sand wedge, and lob wedge, it's all a matter of degrees. Those are listed from low to high loft. The degrees can vary within those particular wedges from 47-53 for pitch, 50-54 for a gap, sand is 54-58, and lob is 58-62 degrees.

You can only carry 14 clubs. I choose a pitch, sand, and lob wedges. I broke my gap otherwise that would be in the bag too.

When was the last time your golf buddies counted the clubs in your bag?

Seems a little personal.

Anyway, take the clubs out to a flat spot in your yard.

Set a flat paver on the clubface so that the clubface is level. The back will settle into the lawn.

Look at the angle the shaft points towards the sky.

That'll tell ya which has more loft, and that's all ya need ta know.

Guessin it's the equivalent of a 60 deg wedge.

LOL... That was my thought also when I read it

https://www.theversed.com/63023/lee...f-course-42-years-ago-today/#.MQXaWcgQpG

Your dad was Lee Trevino? My apologies to Morewood; I hadn't read the whole thread before posting this.

Do it like we do it with rifles...take them to the practice range and hit them, and see which one you'd rather have when a 9-iron is just a bit too much.

Maybe this offers some insight. Just by how clubs are numbered, it seems logical that it falls between a 9 -iron and a PW. A Gap Wedge maybe?

https://www.answers.com/Q/Is_the_No_10_Iron_a_Pitch_or_Sand_Wedge

When I had my private range I used to play pasture pool by setting golf balls from 50 to 300 yards and shooting them. Bottom hit out of a 22LR at 50 is an impressive chip shot. Bottom shots with centerfires @150 were awesome drives. 😀

It doesn’t really matter what you call them, the loft is what matters and that changes. The pitching wedges used today are about the same loft 8 irons were 25 years ago.

Excellent. Good find.

What is a 10 iron golf club?

A 10 iron is usually found in Callaway golf sets of irons, it is basically a pitching wedge.

I have an old set of Yonex ADX irons and it has 3-10 iron with P and S wedge.

The standard wedge degrees are as follows:Flop Wedge-64 degrees

Lob Wedge-60 degrees

Sand Wedge-56 degrees

Gap Wedge-52 degrees

Pitching Wedge-49/48 degrees

I believe the 10 iron is around 44-45 degree. But the better question is do you need one in your bag?

This is amazing! We've gone three pages (by my screen) and have yet to hear from anyone denouncing golfers, golf, and everything connected with it.

Huh? I've been playing golf longer than 25 years and I've seen no huge difference in 8 iron loft over the years.

The only thing stupider than a golfer is a bicyclist and the only thing worse than those losers is anyone shooting a 6.5 Creedmoor...

https://pluggedingolf.com/the-evolution-of-iron-lofts/

Interesting. Thanks, JoeBob.

My dad bought his first set of golf clubs from a coworker in '63 or '64 and had irons 2 thru 10 and woods 1 (driver) thru 4 + a putter. The local public course we had didn't allow players under 12 or 13 to play, so I had to wait a year or two before playing. When I did start, dad just split his set with me - he took the "odds" which left me with the "evens". A new putter and a cheap bag and off we went. So, I grew up using a 10 iron. Haven't played in about 10 years, but never was able to hit a driver - got a driving iron (1) instead,

I had a set long ago that I think had a 10 iron, but I don’t recall whether there was a PW included (I don’t think it did). It was an older set and back then the lofts weren’t as strong as they are today.

Todays stronger lofts stroke the egos of some golfers making them think they’re hitting the ball farther.

I carry 5 wedges, 44, 48, 52, 56, and 60.

My 9i is 40.

I refer to these as Approach, Pitching, Gap, Sand, and Loft wedges.

It’s not all about loft either. Might wanna check the bounce, although I would expect bounce differences to become more useful in the higher lofted wedges.

Except for the lob wedge, gap wedge and sand wedge.

from that picture the 10 looks wider on the bottom therefore has more bounce and loft, would likely be between the P and S wedge.

My Ping set has P, U, S and L wedges. Full swing I hit them 125, 105, 90 and 60, I only use the P and S in play, my shots aren't consistent enough to play that may wedges.

Probably the 10 is the same as my U wedge.

Kent

Never seen a 1 iron either, but I've heard that said about the 2 iron.

My high school golf team buddy, who is still a 70's shooter, came over to the house this morning and I showed him my clubs and he said he could tell, just by looking, that my PW had more loft than the 10 iron, so I am going to put it in my bag and play it. I'm going to remove the 3 iron.

That’s why people today commonly carry three or four wedges when in the past they might have a pitching and sand wedge. Lofts in all the clubs have gotten stronger so there are gaps on the bottom that have to be filled with wedges.

That’s also a reason average golfers can’t hit long irons anymore. Today’s three iron ain’t too far off that one iron that used to be so difficult to hit.

Don't know, never played, always thought the game of golf looked a little gay.........

Can't straight guys wear colorful clothes, too??

Use that damned thing for a tomato stake.

Lol, they can but then they get hit on.....

The "campfire" is like belonging to a "men's shed", all subjects are covered and all problems solved.

Wedges are like ballistic coefficient. Fellas get hung up on the numbers and in the end, they don’t mean schit.

Bigger question is, why would you buy a set of golf clubs, manufactured by a tennis racket company ?

I've had two sets of golf clubs in my life, and neither of them came with a 10 iron. They stopped at 9, then a pitching wedge and a sand wedge. I would have to assume that a 10 iron has a slightly less radical angle than does a pitching wedge. Seems like a waste to have both in your bag, though.

Or sneakers, for that matter...

Phil Michelson was Yonnex for years if I recall. Lots of golf stuff is Ford / Chevy. Hang around tour vans enough and you see all kinds of stuff. Especially trash cans full of shafts 😉

And Titleist Pro VI “range balls”.

Back in the day, Yonex were pretty good clubs. They were real high tech cutting edge stuff back in the early 90s.

It's good that they have golf. People who can't shoot have to have a sport too.

Strictly a mfg branding thing, and the mfg will tell you what the loft is, from there compare to other wedges out there. I've had a 1 iron in my bag for years, not much loft to it, not sure how it would compare to the woods, but it's good for a few laffs (only God can hit a 1 iron)...If memory serves, think there was a story years ago that Jack Nicklaus carried a 1 iron on occasion, which I believe to be 100% true, because I can.

I'm in the same boat as Hanco. I had an uncle that played. He was going to teach me starting out putting in the back yard in town. After the 2nd broken window he suggested I find another sport.

LOL you must have been trying too hard!

It sure as hell ain’t cheaper

It definitely isn't easier.

Kent

it's not louder

That certainly took long enough.

Excellent post!

Because you paid for both.

10 iron is the same as a pitching wedge, although there is usually 1 or the other in a set of irons, not both.

My irons are from the 90s. I bought a set of new old stock Yonex irons because I used to have a graphite Yonex driver that I really liked. I am very pleased with the way I am hitting these irons. I have a dozen or more complete different set of irons from Titleist, Hogan, Jones, Hagen, Yonex, and Ping. I try them all from time to time and use the ones I hit the best.

The difference is whether or not you hit the green.

If you miss, you clearly should have used the other club.

Sixty-three years ago, Ben Hogan stood in the 18th fairway at Merion Golf Club’s East course, needing to make par at the 72nd hole of the 1950 U.S. Open to shoot 7-over-par 287 and find his way into a playoff with Lloyd Mangrum and George Fazio.

From 213 yards on his 36th hole of the day, Hogan pulled a 1-iron for the most iconic shot of his career. Using what he had learned from years of digging the game’s secrets out of the dirt, Hogan executed. He found the green, 40 feet from the hole, two-putted for par and landed in an 18-hole playoff he won the next day.

By most accounts, Hogan should not have even been in that fairway on that Saturday.

About 16 months earlier, Hogan and his wife were involved in a near-fatal automobile accident. While driving along a highway, a Greyhound bus came into the same lane as the Hogan’s car on a tight highway, looking to pass a truck on a foggy day. Sensing what was to happen, Hogan dove to cover his wife, Valerie. The act saved both their lives, as the steering column of their car surely would have killed Hogan. Instead, he fractured his collarbone, pelvis, ankle and rib, with his golf career proclaimed finished.

The 1950 U.S. Open was Hogan’s first tournament back after the accident, whose effects loomed large. Before each day, Hogan bathed in epsom salts, rubbed his legs with ointment and wrapped them.

The pain became nearly unbearable on Saturday, with Hogan telling his caddie on the 13th hole that he was done. The looper told Hogan he wasn’t working for a quitter and would see him on the next tee. Fellow competitor Dr. Cary Middlecoff helped Hogan literally limp to the finish line, picking up his ball at various points. A lot of hands helped Hogan get to the point where he had the national Open in his own.

That strike with a 1-iron was immortalized in a photograph by Hy Peskin. But the club Hogan used to win the national Open for the second of four times could have easily disappeared forever.

After Hogan had finished playing that final day of regulation, the Hawk instructed his caddie to leave his bag at the bag stand near the clubhouse. An enterprising thief decided to swipe the 1-iron from Hogan’s bag, leaving him without the club for the playoff. The story ended well for the Texan, but the most precious artifact from that Hollywood-esque week went missing for 33 years.


No one knew where the 1-iron had gone until a fateful day in 1983.

Golf-club dealer Bobby Farino bought himself a set of irons for $150 from an old man who showed up to The Players Championship, looking to make some scratch for his bag of nine irons and four woods. As he was inspecting the set, Farino noticed the 1-iron was different from the others in the bag. He wondered if he had stumbled upon Hogan’s 1-iron from Merion. Taking the club to the Ben Hogan company for identification, the man himself told Farino he had found the long-lost iron. The ground-down hosel — which Hogan did himself to prevent shanks because he tended to make contact close to it — was probably the most-obvious clue.

The club was eventually turned over to the USGA, which has dutifully held onto the club ever since.

The 1-iron made its return to Merion this week, with the USGA bringing the club from its headquarters in Far Hills, N.J.


Back9Network’s Matt Adams was given special dispensation to recreate Hogan’s immortal shot. Wearing the mandatory white gloves to protect the club and swearing to let no one — and we mean no one — else touch it, Adams returned the 1-iron to the plaque that now commemorates its most famous descending blow and hovered the anachronistic blade over the spot.

The 1-iron is a club whose popularity has dwindled over time. What, with titanium metalwoods and ultra-forgiving hybrids, the longest iron has largely gone the way of the dinosaur.

But for these first few days of the 2013 U.S. Open at Merion, almost every player on the field is champing at the bit to get their hands on a 1-iron.

A 213 yard 1-iron back then is a 4-5 iron today.....at least for tour pros. Tiger’s 2-iron “stinger” is around 240.

A top golfer earns a hell of a lot more than a top shooter.

You can teach someone to shoot in 10 minutes, it takes that long to to explain how to grip the club....

love it

Yes...no. Players today tend to hit their clubs as far as they can hit a particular club and then move up or down clubs. Hogan didn’t play that way. He hit his one iron anywhere from 190 to 230. He might hit his driver 240 or 300 spending on what he thought the shot required.

In Hogan’s day, the courses were shorter, so you didn’t need to hit it as far. The equipment was much less forgiving, so you couldn’t go at the ball as hard. And thus, courses didn’t need to be as long. A slight mishit today that will put you 320 out and ten yards in the rough would have put you in the next county in Hogan’s day.

But Hogan could be long when he wanted to. A feature from life magazine of his drives in the 1951 US Opens shows several drives over 300 and one at about 310. There was another story of Hogan playing late in his career at the Masters when he was semi-retired with Arnold Palmer. Palmer really went after the ball and was seen as a big hitter. Hogan didn’t like Palmer much. So Palmer stepped up and hit a big drive that went about 290 and the crowd applauded very loudly. Hogan stepped up and hit his standard fade and they all started walking up the fairway. Palmer and his caddy were ahead and Hogan was limping along behind. Palmer went to the ball that was farthest up the fairway by about 30 yards and stood waiting for Hogan to play his shot. Hogan got to the first ball and didn’t even look at it and kept walking to the farthest ball where Palmer was standing. At this point, Palmer got a little confused and walked over and looked at the ball. IT WAS HOGAN’S. With a sheepish grin, Palmer had to trudge 30 yards back down the fairway to his ball. Hogan consistently outdrove him that day whenever the hole called for a big drive.

Daly started “bomb and gouge”...which is why I like links courses more than anything. Wind is a bitch....

This link has some information about golf club lofts differing between modern day club manufacturers, and there's also an interesting chart in the middle of this link which shows, for example, that today's 3-iron is pretty much an older time's 1-iron.

https://www.todaysgolfer.co.uk/news...-hit-youre-either-vain-an-idiot-or-both/

There's also some other good reading about club lofts, club face design, and golf shafts attached to the article from the ink above.

I should say so. If you can’t hit something the size of a green at 450 yards with any rifle, you shouldn’t be shooting...