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With the surge in "mass shootings", you can bet your last AR there WILL be stringent firearm legislation and/or Executive Orders enacted.
Originally Posted by murkydismal
With the surge in "mass shootings", you can bet your last AR there WILL be stringent firearm legislation and/or Executive Orders enacted.

No. Trump was elected to defend our Second Amendment rights, not to take them from us.
Don't bet on it.
Gene sock puppet ?
I'll one happy person in this mess will be Wayne Lapierre. This will make his living large on NRA money go away for a while.
There will be a [bleep] storm of talk, but nothing that will go anywhere.
Too close to a major election for all the wannabes to piss off half the voting public
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by murkydismal
With the surge in "mass shootings", you can bet your last AR there WILL be stringent firearm legislation and/or Executive Orders enacted.

No. Trump was elected to defend our Second Amendment rights, not to take them from us.


Lol. Not that I agree with the OP, but Trump already signed an executive order to ban bump stocks.

I think that it's ironic that our 2a rights expanded under Obama and contracted under Trump.

Anyway, we actually need some real solutions with these mass shootings. We also need to remember that not everyone is capable of engaging a shooter even if armed. This is a reality the gun community needs to understand.
Originally Posted by htredneck
There will be a [bleep] storm of talk, but nothing that will go anywhere.
Too close to a major election for all the wannabes to piss off half the voting public


Way less than half own guns. At some point, the average American is going to be tired of this.

"Well, it doesn't affect me."

Solutions are needed. Not heads in the sand.
If only an armed good guy (or more) killed the bad guys during their assault.
The Second Amendment is self serving.. Come and take it!

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Hey Woodrow, give up your guns as a gesture to support "gun control". I think I'll keep mine.
For all the talk and fear surrounding gun control I went out yesterday and bought an AR10 lower and upper. I walked right out the door with it, after paying, a 4473 and phone call. I might catch the gay and build a Creedmoore. 😁
Mass shooting and people call for gun control;
"celebrity" overdose and people concentrate on mental health.

"Sensible Gun Control" should start with Mental Health and leave the guns alone.
Originally Posted by WoodrowFCall
Originally Posted by htredneck
There will be a [bleep] storm of talk, but nothing that will go anywhere.
Too close to a major election for all the wannabes to piss off half the voting public


Way less than half own guns. At some point, the average American is going to be tired of this.

"Well, it doesn't affect me."

Solutions are needed. Not heads in the sand.


Needs to be a 10 day wait period before one can get an abortion, a 7 day wait period before anyone can publish a paper, or buy a book.
Well...


The libtard trolls finally showed up.

Yawn.
Originally Posted by WoodrowFCall
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by murkydismal
With the surge in "mass shootings", you can bet your last AR there WILL be stringent firearm legislation and/or Executive Orders enacted.

No. Trump was elected to defend our Second Amendment rights, not to take them from us.


Lol. Not that I agree with the OP, but Trump already signed an executive order to ban bump stocks..

I know. Along with taking the guns now and worrying about due process later. I was being tongue in cheek.
Originally Posted by murkydismal
With the surge in "mass shootings", you can bet your last AR there WILL be stringent firearm legislation and/or Executive Orders enacted.


I doubt it.
Originally Posted by GeoW
The Second Amendment is self serving.. Come and take it!

g

Yep.
Originally Posted by Hancock27
Mass shooting and people call for gun control;
"celebrity" overdose and people concentrate on mental health.

"Sensible Gun Control" should start with Mental Health and leave the guns alone.

Yeah, let's increase the Red Flag Law confiscations. crazy
The gun talk will be big for a time, then fade away.
Let's take a look at how well banning and outlawing, and buy-backs work.

Remember the liberal assault rifle ban in New Zealand after the shooting?

Wonder what the compliance rate is?

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New Zealand Compliance Rate for Gun Buyback Program Stands at Less than 1 Percent
by Jordan Michaels on July 2, 2019

The gun buyback program in New Zealand is not progressing as officials had hoped. After the county’s parliament banned most semi-automatic weapons in the wake of a deadly massacre, less than one percent of the now-prohibited firearms have been turned in.

New Zealand gun owners were not required to register AR-type rifles prior to the ban, so law enforcement officers aren’t sure precisely how many “military-style semi-automatic weapons” need to be turned in. But police told New Zealand radio host Ryan Bridge that “probably hundreds of thousands” of guns are now prohibited, and the Washington Post reported this week that only 700 firearms have been voluntarily surrendered.

Given that authorities estimate there are 1.2 million to 1.5 million firearms of any type in the country, total compliance to the law passed in April likely stands somewhere between 0.7% and 0.1%.


https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/new-zealand-compliance-1/


Bwahahahaha! laugh
Originally Posted by hanco
The gun talk will be big for a time, then fade away.

That's when the next guy gets the call about the Red Queen.
Only thing certain is that ever troll on this site, that's had their ass handed to em for so long b/c President Trump victories and moronic demmorhoid maneuvers, will pop out like the zits they are and pollute the site til they get beat back down again.
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Only thing certain is that ever troll on this site, that's had their ass handed to em for so long b/c President Trump victories and moronic demmorhoid maneuvers, will pop out like the zits they are and pollute the site til they get beat back down again.



Happens every few days.

Sometimes they switch sockpuppets. But it's same retards.
I read many posts on Facebook by liberals, who do not even show an ounce of curiosity about what drives these 20-somethings to mass kill, instead they fixate on the chosen tool.
There will be bans on semi-auto rifles. It's a matter of when.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Hancock27
Mass shooting and people call for gun control;
"celebrity" overdose and people concentrate on mental health.

"Sensible Gun Control" should start with Mental Health and leave the guns alone.

Yeah, let's increase the Red Flag Law confiscations. crazy



Notice the "leave the guns alone" part.
Originally Posted by Barkoff
I read many posts on Facebook by liberals, who do not even show an ounce of curiosity about what drives these 20-somethings to mass kill, instead they fixate on the chosen tool.



That's my point. If it's a celebrity, they talk Mental Health, Mass shooting they talk gun control.
Originally Posted by Barkoff
I read many posts on Facebook by liberals, who do not even show an ounce of curiosity about what drives these 20-somethings to mass kill, instead they fixate on the chosen tool.



I know exactly what motivates those idiots.

While watching the never ending media blitz of these events, who many nutjobs said "That could be ME getting all that attention!" ?

Copycats. Sick and demented, yet they ARE copycats... Largely due to the media hype.
Murky dismal has made all of 41 postings here on the fire! As for what he knows....he can’t find his ass with both hands and a mirror!
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Originally Posted by Hancock27
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Hancock27
Mass shooting and people call for gun control;
"celebrity" overdose and people concentrate on mental health.

"Sensible Gun Control" should start with Mental Health and leave the guns alone.

Yeah, let's increase the Red Flag Law confiscations. crazy



Notice the "leave the guns alone" part.

Sorry. The thing is, though, what liberals hear when someone calls for addressing the mental health aspect of this issue is increasing the number and frequency of Red Flag actions.
Originally Posted by elkhunternm
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To sane and rational people, that all makes perfect common sense.
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Yep.
Originally Posted by murkydismal
Don't bet on it.


The sky is falling.......The sky is falling!


I'll bet you thought Hillary was gonna win too.........
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Only thing certain is that ever troll on this site, that's had their ass handed to em for so long b/c President Trump victories and moronic demmorhoid maneuvers, will pop out like the zits they are and pollute the site til they get beat back down again.



Happens every few days.

Sometimes they switch sockpuppets. But it's same retards.

JeffO runs a bunch of em multiscreening I bet.....
Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs
If only an armed good guy (or more) killed the bad guys during their assault.


I was wondering where the Texas blowhards are now? Don't mess with Texas? Yeah, go ahead, we won't shoot.
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
For all the talk and fear surrounding gun control I went out yesterday and bought an AR10 lower and upper. I walked right out the door with it, after paying, a 4473 and phone call. I might catch the gay and build a Creedmoore. 😁


My 9mm Stribog -w- 3 30 round mags came in yesterday. smile My advice: get 'em / build 'em while you still can. You don't have to be a weatherman to know which way the wind is blowin'.

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Originally Posted by elkhunternm
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It really is that simple.
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by elkhunternm
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It really is that simple.

The way the first question will be explained is full confiscation is a must. That is their goal after all.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by WoodrowFCall
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by murkydismal
With the surge in "mass shootings", you can bet your last AR there WILL be stringent firearm legislation and/or Executive Orders enacted.

No. Trump was elected to defend our Second Amendment rights, not to take them from us.


Lol. Not that I agree with the OP, but Trump already signed an executive order to ban bump stocks..

I know. Along with taking the guns now and worrying about due process later. I was being tongue in cheek.



Sorry, I missed it. smile
Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs
Hey Woodrow, give up your guns as a gesture to support "gun control". I think I'll keep mine.


Where did I say anything about giving up guns? I said that we need solutions before the general public gets tired of mass shootings and decides guns aren't needed. What's had to get about that?
If Trump goes anti-, he's finished.
I can control my guns quite well without the help of Congress.
I'm not going to watch them,I'll hear enough about it,but the next debate those dems have it will be about gun control,gun control,gun control and let's not forget,Racist!!! Funny the timing of these mass shootings.
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
If Trump goes anti-, he's finished.

Too late. He already caved on two key anti-gun planks.
Originally Posted by Hancock27
Mass shooting and people call for gun control;
"celebrity" overdose and people concentrate on mental health.

"Sensible Gun Control" should start with Mental Health and leave the guns alone.

Mental Health is a tricky subject. With HIPPA laws protecting medical records, that info will be hard to obtain.

And who’s to say someone is too mentally impaired to possess their firearms. Check out liberal VA shrinks and some of their decisions. And docs asking about guns in ones home? Liberal medical professionals are not your friend. Pediatricians probably the worst.

Soviet gulags were set up to “re-educate” those who were considered threats to the state. And domestic terrorism? Will that someday include NRA types? The BIG question, who decides these things. How many here on the Fire would pass muster?

Surely a two edged sword. Be careful what you ask for.

DF
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
If Trump goes anti-, he's finished.

Too late. He already caved on two key anti-gun planks.

Bump stock, gay. What was the other?
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
If Trump goes anti-, he's finished.

Too late. He already caved on two key anti-gun planks.

Bump stock, gay. What was the other?

"Take the guns first, worry about due process later." That's a ginormous camel's nose under the tent that I don't think enough of us appreciate.
The leftist, democrats, liberals, communist, socialist, islamites, lesbians, gays, transgenderism, hollywood, most of the news media, and globalist want power to control the American people. They hate Americans, the Constitution, and the USA. They are all enemies and traitors of America. Yes if the democrats get the guns we are doomed to be a communist country.
The Trumpeteers can easily ignore that. In fact, they can spin it into a positive move. We have a social problem which no one, left or right wants to even try to address. The NRA blindly supports gun ownership while the anti's blindly supportincreasing restriction until they get a ban. Neither side even wants to talk about dealing with mental illness, the drug culture, gang proliferation, or the erosion of American morality. GD
Originally Posted by WoodrowFCall
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by murkydismal
With the surge in "mass shootings", you can bet your last AR there WILL be stringent firearm legislation and/or Executive Orders enacted.

No. Trump was elected to defend our Second Amendment rights, not to take them from us.


Lol. Not that I agree with the OP, but Trump already signed an executive order to ban bump stocks.

I think that it's ironic that our 2a rights expanded under Obama and contracted under Trump.

Anyway, we actually need some real solutions with these mass shootings. We also need to remember that not everyone is capable of engaging a shooter even if armed. This is a reality the gun community needs to understand.



I must of missed the part were we had expanded 2A rights under Obummer.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
If Trump goes anti-, he's finished.

Too late. He already caved on two key anti-gun planks.

Bump stock, gay. What was the other?

"Take the guns first, worry about due process later." That's a ginormous camel's nose under the tent that I don't think enough of us appreciate.


Don't forget his anti silencer comments while in the UK.
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Neither side even wants to talk about dealing with mental illness, the drug culture, gang proliferation, or the erosion of American morality. GD



You fuggin clown; ask yourself which party brought those woes to America grin
The left will label those who support the 2A as racists. It will be their new tactic to move forward on "commonsense laws".
Originally Posted by WoodrowFCall
Originally Posted by htredneck
There will be a [bleep] storm of talk, but nothing that will go anywhere.
Too close to a major election for all the wannabes to piss off half the voting public


Way less than half own guns. At some point, the average American is going to be tired of this.

"Well, it doesn't affect me."

Solutions are needed. Not heads in the sand.


Serious question, what solutions do you propose? How much are you willing to sacrifice so others can “feel safe”?
In japan where there are no guns, they use swords. Katana swords to chop up 30 or 40 people at a time. The problem is not the gun, it is the person doing the killing.
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
In japan where there are no guns, they use swords. Katana swords to chop up 30 or 40 people at a time. The problem is not the gun, it is the person doing the killing.


Same in England. 25 years ago I had a private tour of the Houses of Parliament from a high ranking official from Scotland Yard. I asked him, off the record, why the street cops in London appeared to be wearing body army vests when gun ownership / gun violence was supposedly next to non-existent. Real simple he said, 'you can bleed out just as fast, if not faster, from a well placed knife wound than a gun wound.'
One of my neighbors panicked this morning and purchased all my guns and stuff.

I'm gonna buy some golf clubs.
Well what do you know? Was moving all of mine back to the dock for transportation to the sheriff tommorow and guess what happened. The damn canoe tipped over. All those guns and the ammo too.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
Originally Posted by greydog
The Trumpeteers can easily ignore that. In fact, they can spin it into a positive move. We have a social problem which no one, left or right wants to even try to address. The NRA blindly supports gun ownership while the anti's blindly supportincreasing restriction until they get a ban. Neither side even wants to talk about dealing with mental illness, the drug culture, gang proliferation, or the erosion of American morality. GD




Go fahq yourself scumbag. The democrap party owns every one of those.
Here ya go folks.Next debate,who has the best plan for gun control..

https://www.wsj.com/articles/after-...n-laws-blame-trumps-rhetoric-11564933379


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=473&v=blfy6ZILtw0
While its ok to discuss the issue here, everyone must get engaged locally at their caucuses or whatever grass roots organization you have. Donate and volunteer to your local or statewide 2A organization. The NRA still holds the most power at the national level. Let's not get mired down in the weeds of in-fighting and look to the bigger picture.
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