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Posted By: simonkenton7 Wood Stove Guys, Alert!! - 09/12/19
A guy on the wood stove forum posted this yesterday, as "Easy Access to Free Poplar." He said this happened during Hurricane Dorian.






















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I'd be interested if it was anything besides poplar.
Posted By: slumlord Re: Wood Stove Guys, Alert!! - 09/12/19
I'd only be worried about it tickling the 6900 across the street.

NGAF about phone lines

As for burning popular, probably burns better than that sissyfied western fir, heating with juniper. Lmao
Posted By: Paul_M Re: Wood Stove Guys, Alert!! - 09/12/19
Originally Posted by m1rifleman
I'd be interested if it was anything besides poplar.

Yeah, it not that poplar as firewood. Burn to quick.
Posted By: 6mm250 Re: Wood Stove Guys, Alert!! - 09/12/19
Don't look like poplar to me but at any rate I ain't going to Nova Scotia (reverse image search)


Mike
Posted By: cuznguido Re: Wood Stove Guys, Alert!! - 09/12/19
Poplar of course is not as good as white oak, but it serves a purpose very well and any experienced wood burner knows how to make it count. It does burn faster because it is lighter, and every single wood out there produces the same BTU per pound.
Good work 6mm250 I was wondering where this was. You are a wizard of the computer.
Posted By: Quak Re: Wood Stove Guys, Alert!! - 09/12/19
Popal is junk.
Chevy truck commercial fodder.


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A lot of the guys on the wood stove forum burn poplar. They like it during "shoulder season," which is March and October when it isn't that cold.
WTF? I have poplar all over my property and I have 48 acres. Once a year I whack a poplar just because it is in the way. I saw 'em up and throw 'em off the mountain. I have several big wood piles but why would I take up valuable wood pile space with crap firewood like poplar?

Originally Posted by Kyhilljack
Chevy truck commercial fodder.


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Just look what that aluminum ford body did to that sidewalk. Junk!
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Originally Posted by Kyhilljack
Chevy truck commercial fodder.


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Just look what that aluminum ford body did to that sidewalk. Junk!




chevy truck would have caught that tree with its tailgate in position 7b .
Posted By: Gus Re: Wood Stove Guys, Alert!! - 09/12/19
that wood would be ideal for the typical weekend scrounger.

could load it up right from the street. don't get no better than that.
Posted By: hanco Re: Wood Stove Guys, Alert!! - 09/12/19
I like red oak and live oak in ours.
Posted By: WeimsnKs Re: Wood Stove Guys, Alert!! - 09/12/19
Originally Posted by hanco
I like red oak and live oak in ours.


I like what is free
Posted By: WayneShaw Re: Wood Stove Guys, Alert!! - 09/12/19
Several has died on my place, so I cut and split them. Early season, middle of the day, it burns and heats and is free!

BTW, what is this "wood stove" forum?
Posted By: Ejp1234 Re: Wood Stove Guys, Alert!! - 09/12/19
Very big difference in what regions refer to poplar.. in the east we have tulip poplar which is a hardwood... its no beech or oak, but I dont always want my stove jammed with wood that burns for 12hrs either. Tulip Poplar okay in my book, great for those October evenings you need to take the chill out but dont want the house 85* at 3am because the secondaries are still rolling...

Poplar from the north and west not the same thing at all...
https://www.hearth.com/talk/forums/the-hearth-room-wood-stoves-and-fireplaces.6/

Here is the wood stove forum. I have been burning wood stoves since 1972. I have had 7 wood stoves, three of which I built myself.
I thought I knew it all, but 10 years ago I joined this forum and these gear heads really took me to school.

Not just this forum there are others on this web site, I often go to "The Wood Shed" where we talk about various kinds of firewood and how to build a good wood shed.
Posted By: earlybrd Re: Wood Stove Guys, Alert!! - 09/13/19
Makes good kinlin wood
I burn it cause I have so much of it. I mix it in with oak and maple.
Locust in the woodshed right now.
Cleared a lot full of it for two houses last year. [bleep]'s hard as woodpecker lips right now.
Posted By: las Re: Wood Stove Guys, Alert!! - 09/13/19
I have gas. So does my fireplace. And my forced air furnace.

Old multi-fuel furnace blew a blower a year ago, dammit. Obsolete, couldn't get parts.

Gas bill dropped 20% with the new one - we only burned wood in the multi-fuel when it dropped below -10.

I liked that old furnace!

At the remote cabin, of course, all we have is wood. Got more blow-down spruce on my 5 acres than I can burn in 50 years at the rate we are using it! ( a week or two in residence annually) Some birch. Skinned a couple logs last summer, for future use. Keeps them from rotting if the bark is off.

OK- I lied. it's nominally 5, but less than 5 acres -- it depends on how high the river is.... One corner is across the river... smile

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Posted By: las Re: Wood Stove Guys, Alert!! - 09/13/19
Hey- I could put up a river toll booth on my upstream neighbors! smile

and the dog has become pretty rectangular since.
Posted By: Sycamore Re: Wood Stove Guys, Alert!! - 09/13/19
Originally Posted by Kyhilljack
Chevy truck commercial fodder.


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self loading!
Posted By: walt501 Re: Wood Stove Guys, Alert!! - 09/13/19
I've burned a lot of Poplar at my cabin in Ontario. It lives up to its name - it pops. Sometimes it pops when you open the wood stove door, sending a hot coal quite a distance. My preference is paper birch. I don't think it has that much more heat than poplar, but it wins the contest for the best smelling firewood.
Posted By: las Re: Wood Stove Guys, Alert!! - 09/13/19
Dunno about poplar, but birch definately has more BTU's than Aspen, in my case. And I think spruce. Isn't birch a hardwood?

Googled it. As I thought. I knew it held the fire better than spruce...

When I was using it in the multi-fuel furnace, I'd load it at night, before bed. If I really wanted to hold it, I'd put in some less seasoned birch on top.

Creosoating was increased but I had/have two good sets of chimney brushes. Selling cheap - you pay the freight..... smile
Posted By: walt501 Re: Wood Stove Guys, Alert!! - 09/13/19
Yes, birch is considered a hardwood, but just barely. I'm sure someone will post up a chart of the BTU's of various firewood.
Posted By: shootem Re: Wood Stove Guys, Alert!! - 09/13/19
Originally Posted by Quak
Popal is junk.


Appropriatley named. Pops like crazy. Not for open fireplaces. Burns fast, lots of ash, blows hot coals out. Keep it.
Posted By: stevelyn Re: Wood Stove Guys, Alert!! - 09/13/19
I miss having the hardwoods available I grew up around in deepest, darkest Appalachia. About the only thing we have in abundance in AK is spruce and birch. A friend of mine burns a lot of tamarack. It's a little denser than spruce and holds a fire pretty well. There'll be coals in the morning from tamarack that won't be there from spruce. Most folks burn mostly spruce and hold their birch supply in reserve for those -40 F cold snaps.
Posted By: 1minute Re: Wood Stove Guys, Alert!! - 09/13/19
A load of tamarack
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Split, in the shed, and ready for winter. Have about a 6 years supply curing around the place.
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Yes, there are many superior hardwoods, but we live in the PNW.
Posted By: whelennut Re: Wood Stove Guys, Alert!! - 09/13/19
Wow I would need a lot of wood to last 6 years.
Posted By: Redneck Re: Wood Stove Guys, Alert!! - 09/13/19
Originally Posted by simonkenton7
https://www.hearth.com/talk/forums/the-hearth-room-wood-stoves-and-fireplaces.6/

Here is the wood stove forum. I have been burning wood stoves since 1972. I have had 7 wood stoves, three of which I built myself.
I thought I knew it all, but 10 years ago I joined this forum and these gear heads really took me to school.

Not just this forum there are others on this web site, I often go to "The Wood Shed" where we talk about various kinds of firewood and how to build a good wood shed.


SEVEN wood stoves??? Yikes. I've had exactly two - and the second one that I use now is only about 3 years old. The first one lasted over 40 years.....and frankly, I still miss it because it would really, REALLY put out the heat if it was necessary..

Poplar's not used around here simply because the area is rich in oak, maple, ash and ironwood..
Yes, y'all boys in Oregon and Washington have it tough. I lived up there for a year, in eastern Washington near Idaho, all they had was pine to burn. They thought I was making it up when I told them about oak.

I am in the North Carolina mountains. I burn lots of oak and hickory. The bad news: Twenty years ago the locust blight killed all the locust trees. The good news: There is lots of dry dead locust. Locust is the best firewood in the state.


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Last month I cut up this big boy. This is the biggest locust I have ever cut, usually it runs 10 to 12 inches.



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I cut it and my brother split it. We both got a truck load. This is the finest truck load I have ever gotten, locust with no rot and nearly dry enough to burn. Moisture content 21 percent, we need 17 percent to burn well.


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For the task of creating heat and holding a fire, tamarack is hard to beat. (not putting it up against oak, elm, ash) just from what I have an abundance of which would be jack pine, tamarack, spruce, poplar and birch. Birch is my fav to burn and to cut. But I can't beat the overall efficiency of tamarack.
Posted By: Rooster7 Re: Wood Stove Guys, Alert!! - 09/13/19
Originally Posted by 1minute
A load of tamarack
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Split, in the shed, and ready for winter. Have about a 6 years supply curing around the place.
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Yes, there are many superior hardwoods, but we live in the PNW.



Did.....did....you put all them logs back together in the wood shed after you split them or are my eyes deceiving me???
Posted By: Valsdad Re: Wood Stove Guys, Alert!! - 09/13/19
Originally Posted by slumlord
I'd only be worried about it tickling the 6900 across the street.

NGAF about phone lines

As for burning popular, probably burns better than that sissyfied western fir, heating with juniper. Lmao



You are hilarious.

What kinda brain germ did you pick up down t' the Golden Corral or China King buffet?

Burning "popular". laugh

Yep, that "popular" does burn better than sissiyfied fir and juniper..........................burns right up, little heat per cord comparatively.

Like I said......................hilarious! laugh

Geno

PS, you won't run this old guy. wink

PPS how many ricks you figger in that big ol' tree? smile
Posted By: Raeford Re: Wood Stove Guys, Alert!! - 09/13/19
Originally Posted by simonkenton7
Yes, y'all boys in Oregon and Washington have it tough. I lived up there for a year, in eastern Washington near Idaho, all they had was pine to burn. They thought I was making it up when I told them about oak.

I am in the North Carolina mountains. I burn lots of oak and hickory. The bad news: Twenty years ago the locust blight killed all the locust trees. The good news: There is lots of dry dead locust. Locust is the best firewood in the state.


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Last month I cut up this big boy. This is the biggest locust I have ever cut, usually it runs 10 to 12 inches.



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I cut it and my brother split it. We both got a truck load. This is the finest truck load I have ever gotten, locust with no rot and nearly dry enough to burn. Moisture content 21 percent, we need 17 percent to burn well.




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I've still got 3-4 years worth of standing dead locust, burned mostly oak last year that was gifted/delivered in pole lengths.
Could hardly believe the difference in how much faster the stove filled with ash with oak vs locust.
Posted By: slumlord Re: Wood Stove Guys, Alert!! - 09/13/19
Hey Geno, does that juniper make a man's house smell like cat piss when it's burning??

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Posted By: slumlord Re: Wood Stove Guys, Alert!! - 09/13/19
We use black locust for fence posts.

Honey locust has those big thorns on it aka Debble's walking stick. I leave those for the deer. They eat the bean pods late season.
Posted By: Valsdad Re: Wood Stove Guys, Alert!! - 09/13/19
Originally Posted by slumlord
Hey Geno, does that juniper make a man's house smell like cat piss when it's burning??

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Nope, all that stuff I stacked in the woodshed smells like cedar. Which is probably why folks like to call it that.

Beware the "Cedar People" living in N AZ, out in the junipers. On 40's they bought on a broken up subdivided ranch. Some of 'em live in teepees and tents .................20 years after they bought their property.

Geno
Posted By: tscott Re: Wood Stove Guys, Alert!! - 09/13/19
I was so lucky up in the Hudson Valley, 50 miles north of the city. Unlimited supply of red oak, deer, and ruffed grouse! Not so lucky TAXES!
Originally Posted by tscott
I was so lucky up in the Hudson Valley, 50 miles north of the city. Unlimited supply of red oak, deer, and ruffed grouse! Not so lucky TAXES!



You think we're stupid?

Nobody burns deer and ruffed grouse.
Posted By: 1minute Re: Wood Stove Guys, Alert!! - 09/13/19
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you put all them logs back together in the wood shed after you split them


Yes. Put the larger rounds back in place and fill the voids with smaller stuff. Makes a tight stack and we heat about a 2400 sq ft home with around 2 cords from mid-Oct to 3rd week of May. Five similar layers in the shed and we use about 3 and 1/2 over a winter. A lot less saw time if one can buck up big timber.

Got some really big rounds this year, but they'll not see the shed for several more seasons.
Posted By: Valsdad Re: Wood Stove Guys, Alert!! - 09/13/19
Originally Posted by northern_dave
Originally Posted by tscott
I was so lucky up in the Hudson Valley, 50 miles north of the city. Unlimited supply of red oak, deer, and ruffed grouse! Not so lucky TAXES!



You think we're stupid?

Nobody burns deer and ruffed grouse.


Not if you want them to taste good anyway.

Geno
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Yes I have had 7 wood stoves. Back in 1982 there was a company called Sotz. You could buy a kit from Sotz for 30 bucks and make a stove from a 55 gallon drum. Just cut a hole and bolt on the door kit, then bolt on four legs, then cut a round hole and bolt on the stove pipe flange.
Took about an hour. Paint it with high temp muffler paint.

This stove mounted a second drum on top for a heat exchanger. A 33 inch long fire box, this thing would burn all night, green, dry, pine, oak, this beast didn't care! Rated at 250,000 BTU.
Sotz also sold a kit with a round door for a smaller drum. These were great stoves!



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This is my current stove, the Jotul Oslo, made in Norway. Just bought this 3 years ago when I did the addition. $2500.
This is a beautiful stove but I must admit I liked the Sotz better. Huge firebox and burned green wood great.
I was seriously looking at putting a Sotz in the addition. But, the girlfriend hates the Sotz! She actually threatened to walk out on me if I got another Sotz.
Women, go figure.
Posted By: Rooster7 Re: Wood Stove Guys, Alert!! - 09/15/19
Originally Posted by 1minute
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you put all them logs back together in the wood shed after you split them


Yes. Put the larger rounds back in place and fill the voids with smaller stuff. Makes a tight stack and we heat about a 2400 sq ft home with around 2 cords from mid-Oct to 3rd week of May. Five similar layers in the shed and we use about 3 and 1/2 over a winter. A lot less saw time if one can buck up big timber.

Got some really big rounds this year, but they'll not see the shed for several more seasons.



Not criticizing in any way. Just never seen someone take the time to stack so nice and neat. smile
When I was young and single I burned nothing but pussy willow. It never worked for me. Had to finally mail order a bride.
Posted By: Sycamore Re: Wood Stove Guys, Alert!! - 09/15/19
Originally Posted by 1minute



Split, in the shed, and ready for winter. Have about a 6 years supply curing around the place.
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Yes, there are many superior hardwoods, but we live in the PNW.


those look like ponderosa rounds on the right? dead ringer for ponderosa bark.
Posted By: Sycamore Re: Wood Stove Guys, Alert!! - 09/15/19
Originally Posted by simonkenton7



I cut it and my brother split it. We both got a truck load. This is the finest truck load I have ever gotten, locust with no rot and nearly dry enough to burn. Moisture content 21 percent, we need 17 percent to burn well.




How do you figure the moisture content?
Posted By: 1minute Re: Wood Stove Guys, Alert!! - 09/26/19
The only ponderosa in the woodshed image is the larger chopping block. That stuff is a bear to split, so one can get several seasons without a breakdown. Everything else is tamarack.

Have a good one,
Posted By: wabigoon Re: Wood Stove Guys, Alert!! - 09/26/19
% moister can be found with a meter on sawn lumber.
Moisture content is figured with a digital moisture meter. All the gear heads on the wood stove forum have one.


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If winter, you have to bring the stick inside over night. Needs to be room temp and not 28 degrees. Then split the stick and measure the freshly split side.
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