I think there's probably a lot of good insight to this.

If anything, it's understated.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/09/no_matter_who_wins_in_2020_there_will_be_blood.html


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September 13, 2019
No Matter Who Wins in 2020, There Will Be Blood
By William L. Gensert

The machinations of an illiberal left, on display in its ever-increasing violence accompanied by the ululations of a propagandist media in contravention of an imaginary “white supremacist” right, have riven the nation into diametrically opposed camps.

The right will never accept socialism, while the left will accept nothing less.

Trump Wins

Those on the left will not allow a Trump victory, even should he win the popular vote and the Electoral College. They are used to getting what they want and like spoiled brats, have learned that tantrums work.

Should Donald Trump prevail in his bid for a second term, the left will go insane, deploying every “insurance policy” weapon at their disposal to negate four more years of the Orange Man. What Obama, Comey, and Brennan et al. did to Trump in his first term will seem mild in comparison to what the left is planning should he win.

Antifa, the military arm of the Democratic Party, has not spent the last three years practicing and organizing merely to sit on the sidelines. They have used the interregnum to mobilize and learn tactics, while probing to find what government will allow, media will trumpet, and the public will endure.

The skirling “resistance” has morphed from pajama-boy blobs of perpetually offended little dictators and pussy-hat sporting shriekers into balaclava-wearing avengers who crave the opportunity to put deplorables in their place and give them the government they deserve good and hard. They will flood the streets after a Trump victory in their Antifa costumes looking to bust the heads of anyone near enough to become part of their 15 minutes of YouTube fame.

It will start in the cities -- the Democrat-run cities, of course -- where the political leadership will provide them a measure of protection against identification and arrest. Seattle, Portland, LA, San Francisco, NYC, Chicago, Atlanta, Boston, and Baltimore, among others, will become flashpoints of unrest.

The riots will be portrayed by the media and the Democrats as a groundswell of support for deposing a racist president. They will bemoan the necessity of the violence, destruction, and loss of life, but remind Americans that “the people have spoken.” Some among the Antifa will be championed. In lockstep, both the New York Times and the Washington Post will run headlines calling them: “The New Founding Fathers.” People who fight back will quickly grow in number -- even as the media label them “white supremacists.” Blood will be spilled.

China, Iran, Russia, and Venezuela will plead for calm and offer to mediate the evolving humanitarian crisis…

Trump Loses

The right will never believe the Democrats didn’t cheat their way to victory; in addition to understanding that a Democratic President will undemocratically implement policies by executive order that are inimical to their interests and desires.

Many on the right are weary of leaders who prioritize good press over good policy, and who prefer losing gracefully over winning ugly. They believe they did build that and that they have not yet made enough money and are fed up with being portrayed as ignorant and evil just because of political disagreements. Eight years of Obama and three years of watching his slow-motion coup have made them angry.

Tone-deaf to this silent majority and emboldened by victory, the new president will borrow Barry’s “pen and phone” and start issuing executive orders throwing open our borders, banning fossil fuels, and of course, implementing “common sense” gun control. Buoyed by media, the new president will start with universal background checks and a gun registry.

Eventually, the president will overreach, signing an order for gun confiscation, euphemistically called, “mandatory buybacks.” Antifa and their ilk will flood the streets in support of seizing these “weapons of war.” Media will declare, “It’s the will of the people.”

And for the right, that will be the last straw (plastic or paper).

The left doesn’t understand that every gun owner is a single-issue-voter; millions will refuse to give up their guns. And, many gun owners in this country will not go “meekly into the night,” there will be “rage” against what they will see as a usurpation of their constitutional rights.

Confiscation will go well at first, with gun owners in the cities acquiescing to the knock on the door in the middle of the night and the intimidation of, “Papers please.”

But in flyover country, a different scenario will play out. Most gun owners will hide their weapons and most local police departments will accept that, not wanting to jail their neighbors. Resistance will be broad, perhaps encompassing hundreds of millions of Americans. Barack Obama, for once in the dismal history of his efforts to kill the America we love, will be proven correct. Americans do “cling to their guns.”

The media will call it “white supremacy,” but a still unregulated internet will be rife with videos of an out of control government battling its own citizens.

The president will call for mobilizing the National Guard. Some governors will refuse, and army units now overseas will be sent home to deal with the growing unrest. Mistakes will be made and there will be gunfire in the streets; people will die on both sides. The president will desperately call for martial law.

Many Army, National Guard, and police will defect, or desert, or simply refuse orders.

What will happen after that is anybody's guess.

I would not be surprised in the least if the Trump Loses scenario becomes true. I hope not, but it's certainly possible.

That wasn't exactly warm and fuzzy.
I think both cases are extreme but also what many people on both sides want. Our controllers don't want either case to play out yet. Boil the frog.

Agree .
I don't have faith in the voters on the right far too many ''don't care'' people . None of the people i got to vote in 16' voted in 18' it seems like they feel like ''they did their part'' .
People like the folks on the Fire aren't like the typical american today , quite obvious from the voting numbers very few care to pay attention . It's football hot dogs apple pie and chevrolet- a new truck and other material things and kissing their wifes ass .

Let's get one thing straight! It's BASEBALL hotdogs apple pie and Chevrolet.

Sadly, the rest is correct.

as much as the libs hate trump now, they will hate and loathe him even more after he stomps biden in the election then rubs their noses in it as only he can do

oh .

Trump will win, so start preparing for that scenario any way that you think it will unfold.

He will stack the Supreme Court also in his second term. And stack the entire judiciary system around the country. The nation will be turning right for decades.

What good is any level of judiciary when the rule of law as outlined by the Constitution isn't adhered to?

Basically, both sides will not obey the law.

Why should they when the other side doesn't, and we don't have equal justice under the law?

Which law?

Our Constitution, which every govt "employee" is sworn to uphold?

Or, "new law", which flies in the face of the Constitution?

2020 looks like a sure win for Trump, but it's very dangerous to underestimate the leftist and their hatred for him and us. There's no dirty trick they won't stoop to, because in their minds they know they're right and we are all racist low life's holding back progress. Their end of a socialistic utopia justifies any means.
If a few hundred or a few thousand or even the POTUS need to be sacrificed for their agenda to prevail, that's okay. After all, it's for the good of the human race.
7mm

I don't believe Biden is gonna make it thru the primaries. He could barely keep his teeth from falling out the other night.

As to the article, meh many of those same types of prognostications were made before the 2016 election and nothing came of them in the end.

[quote=FatCity67]I don't believe Biden is gonna make it thru the primaries. He could barely keep his teeth from falling out the other night.

Saw that. Kind of feel sorry for the lousy bastard.

Starting to sound like Germany a long time ago....

Russia.

That's why I voted FOR him instead of against the other guy for the first time in many years.

exactly what trump did. Stupid bastard.

It's necessary for a koo-koo bird Democrat to serve a couple of terms before the people get serious about cleaning up the mess this country is becoming.

I'm not sure what form it will take. But there's still far too many people on the right who don't fully realize how far down the rabbit hole America has gone.

They're going to need to be slapped in the face with it to get their perspective corrected.

Beautiful low humidity morning and you're not out whacking away at some hippy shrubs ?

Won't be any Antifa in ATL.

He looked horrible. I almost felt sorry for the guy.. except that he's trying to destroy my country.

It will happen when and if it will happen. No one can accurately predict that.

But, you can only push a match so close to intense heat before it ignites.

Sorry, but no. Demographics is destiny. With people of European ancestry (the only actual swing voters) becoming a minority in the US after all the Boomers die, no R is going to be able to get elected POTUS, and the R's will have no more majority going forward. There are serious consequences to leaving the southern border wide open, and letting nearly 100 million people across it over the past 90 years.

Reads like a dystopian movie treatment, but still some truth in there.

Unless some other POS crawls out from under a rock & steals the DemonRat nomination as The Muslim did, Warren will be the nominee & she is absolutely bat-schitt crazy & fully aligned with the far left progressives & things will get ugly fast as she is just too stupid & fixated for anything else to happen.

There will be ballot box stuffing & voter tampering & fraud to a level that far, far surpasses anything we have imagined to date.....................that's the ONLY move the Demons have left.

The scenarios in the article are going to happen at some time, just a question of if it's sooner or later, IMO.

MM

I don’t feel sorry for Joe, but I’m a little embarrassed on his behalf. What he does is fortify the millennial’s opinion that most senior citizens are goofy, out of touch and to be ignored. The last debate was a clown show for sure. Should just dress them up like the Village People and be done with it. As fugged up as Hillary, Bummer, Kerry, et al are, this crew takes the cake.

I’m afraid this is correct. The silent majority slept to long. To many don’t understand the principles the US was formed on. And don’t care. Hasbeen

Absolutely true.

Ask not what you can do for your country, but what your country can do for you.... Even if it's NOT your country.

Trump will definitely win, and the Repubs will add to their Senate majority and retake the house. Ruth Bader Ginsburg will die of stress and the Supreme Court will be able to overcome John Roberts traitorous votes. Atlanta will not be like Seattle. Flyover country will remain peaceful. Yes many cities on the left coast will burn, along with Chicago, but they always have.

And regarding the 2nd Amendment, regardless how many or few guns they own, or if they own no guns at all, all get only one vote per voter (legally speaking).

Stats 'imply' that of the millions of firearms in the U.S., the largest numbers are owned by a relatively low percentage.

One of my big concerns is how the (probably) countless 1 - 2 gun owners, many if not most of which were handed down, and/or inherited, rarely if ever shot or even handled, basically forgotten stashed away in a closet or drawer, will likely cast their one vote on future 2nd Amendment issues.

[Confiscation will go well at first, with gun owners in the cities acquiescing to the knock on the door in the middle of the night and the intimidation of, “Papers please.”
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I think this is where 2A supporters sound hysterical. There aren't enough police officers and agents willing to do this in a million years, let alone have the time to develop probable case to get a search warrant for every dwelling that would likely have a contraband firearm in it. What would be more likely and practical is to be busted for "simple possession" whereas if you are seen with a banned rifle or someone snitches on you at a range, you're toast.

I think Biden will be the nominee. He's a complete and utter douchebag but he's fairly sane compared to the rest of those clowns.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/14125600#Post14125600

The Joker is a Dangerous Film

Truly after watching how Democrats answered in the debate I am convinced that not only are they retarded but evil as well. In other words they rather wish the country go into a recession and cause millions to suffer and lose their jobs than have Republicans win or the people get ahead. Democrats wish to disarm us to control us in a police state.

Certainly.

I think that you are absolutely dead wrong with that statement; there are far more LEO's that would relish the chance to confiscate guns (of any flavor) than there are ones who would refuse such an illegal action.

Same for the military, some will refuse, many more will follow orders as directed..................it's what they do, follow orders.

MM

While Trump may indeed win re-election, and hopefully will stack the Supreme court with Conservatives, moving forward, this is of little consequence b/c the long-sought demographic change the Marxists have been drooling over has finally reached the point of no return. When the Marxists take over again, they will simply change the make-up of the Supreme Court in order to nullify the Conservative vote. As a further example of their insidious nature, take a look at the National Popular Vote Compact, which will keep them in power for all eternity.

Texas is very, very close to turning Blue. With many TX Republicans not seeking re-election and the massive demographic change in TX (as well as the rest of America), once TX is lost, so goes the nation. The results of which will be that Trump may indeed be the very last Republican/Conservative POTUS.

The ONLY way to stop this inexorable march towards Marxism is through mass-deportations (see Eisenhower’s Operation Wetback), the implementation of gigantic taxes on remittances to Mexico, the vigorous enforcement of e-Verify, the break-up of the Tech giants (Masters of the Universe) and the construction of a virtually impenetrable barrier along out entire Southern border.

As much as I would like to believe that there will be a Conservative majority in America for decades to come, it's simply wishful thinking. The left has been playing the long game since the days of FDR and they have now summited the tipping point. Decade upon decade of unopposed Leftist/Marxist social engineering has turned our schools and our universities into Pinko factories that have turned out hordes of easily controlled, Marxist engineered, Proletariat. The silent majority was silent for too long and now it’s too late. Apathy is rampant in our country and Conservatives are now outnumbered against the much better organized Progressive Machine that keeps chugging along, virtually unopposed. The mainstream media, uninterested parents, broken homes, absent fathers, the entitlement mentality, feminism, weak men, and apathy have all been major contributors to the current state of America and without radical interference from Conservatives, America as we once knew it will be gone forever.

The supreme court will still be that giant pink elephant in the room, beato ain't gonna do [bleep], except maybe some more time !

You are 100% correct.

MM

Agreed. Get ready for the biggest election fraud in the history of the world.

Trump needs the DOJ to put the last bunch in prison, for tampering with our elections. Comey needs to be the first and Mccabe second, and there is a long list after those two !

Many good points made here, but never, ever doubt the tendency of the majority of LEO's to preserve their retirement above all things, including the constitution. That means following orders, any orders.The LEO' s who are Oathkeepers of course, are a breed apart, but sadly, a minority.

We have them greatly outnumbered, they can't get them all in a month or so, there will be organized rebellion, you can count on that.

I copied this from an F-16 fighter pilot speaking about 9-11 ...... There is plenty of hope out there.


When asked why she was willing to fly a kamikaze mission, Penney doesn’t hesitate. “Why? Because there are things in this world that are more important than ourselves. Freedom. The Constitution of the United States. Our way of life. Mom, baseball, apple pie; these things and so many more that make us uniquely American. We belong to something greater than ourselves. As complex and diverse and discordant as it is, this thing, this idea called America, binds us together in citizenship and community and brotherhood.”

This is a defeatist and simple minded attitude that so many have fallen into. I took the OP out of the quote, because I'm not bashing the OP, but attitude that minorities are all worthless leeches on society, they are all Democrat and socialists, and they will always remain that that way. I say bull!

This kind of defeatism and shallow thinking is what keeps people from success. Success is staring the Right in the face, and too many can't see the opportunity to kill the Left for generations to come.

So America becomes less European? That doesn't mean it will automatically become socialist. What is the the one BIG thing that has been driving people to America for over 250 years? It is the opportunity for upward social and economic mobility!

Latinos - Many of them are entrepreneurs, small business owners in painting, landscape, concrete, restaurants. They have families, they go to church, they DON'T believe in abortion. The ones here legally DON'T want the world coming here illegally. There is a golden opportunity to get them into the GOP. They don't want to be over taxed and over regulated.They only need leadership to show them they already are conservative. They have an inherent distrust of gov't and only know political pandering.

African Americans - In case you haven't noticed (and judging by the comments from areas that really don't have a Black population, you haven't noticed) Blacks in America have been working to send there kids to college to 40 years now. Blacks don't lean on shovels as their sole job. The Black Middle cCass in the metro Atlanta area and other cities/suburbs is huge, and out numbers the ghetto rat population by far. As the old John Lewis Civil Rights generation leaves politics, there is a major opportunity to start converting Blacks from the Democrats. They vote 94%+ Democrat now? Trump has made believers out of a surprising number, but many are afraid to mention it in public, but that is changing. What happens if an effort is made to get those all into the GOP? What if the voting % of Blacks drops from 94% Dem to 70% Dem? They will still be largely Dem, but a 24% swing dooms the Democrats.

Indians (Dot Heads oops, that's racist. I mean Asians from India) These guys are smart, value education, and want to make money and not pay taxes. They are family oriented. Not Dem material. Convert them all.

Chinese and Koreans - damn sure have had their fill of socialism. Every one should vote GOP.

So, maybe somebody in the GOP needs to get off their ass and work on this. Recent poll in the state of Florida shows that the Hispanics there outside of the Cuban population are voting MORE GOP in 2018 than in 2016 and 2014. Get that? Florida is not lost forever. Neither is Texas is danger IF the GOP gets to work. Golden opportunity.

The #1 danger to freedom is WHITE LIBERALS. Who makes up most of ANTIFA? Green Peace? Sierra Club? LGBTWXYX? Those wonderful people of European origin.

The opportunity is there guys. It's there.

The black middle class votes overwhelmingly democrat. New citizens from Mexico vote overwhelmingly democrat.

I don't know if that will ever change. But it's not going to change soon enough.

It's not defeatist to say that. It's just the recognition of voting patterns.

True....True....and True.

Hatari speak truth, which is hate-speech to those who hate the truth. Skin color is NOT destiny. Check out Candace Owen (not like that).

The facts indicate that skin color does indeed dictate voting patterns.

I mean, seriously. Who doesn't know this? There's no good reason to pretend differently.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-ta...vote-divisions-by-race-gender-education/

Blacks voted overwhelmingly (90%) for the Democratic candidate, including comparable shares of black men (88%) and black women (92%).

Well, those blacks that don't toe the mark and vote/think/do as they are told are outcast by the democrats and labeled as "Uncle Tom's".

Candace is one in 10,000 and Hatari is wrong - it's not going to change enough to turn things around - book it ...

That is why the democrats want open borders. They know that brown people vote 70% to 80% for socialism and free perk's. That is why they are flooding Texas with illegals. I do not know how but watch they will vote and Texas will turn blue. Then the country is lost to socialism and civil war.

The problem as I see it . Let's just say President Trump wins , we get the majority in both House and Senate . How Is the damage to the upcoming voters going get undone . Oure grandchildren are largely brainwashed into anti gun , care and know nothing about the constitution and don't have a clue what it takes tomake ends meet . Spent the day wifh some inlaws today and was amazed at how vehemently two young girls spoke openly against guns and they should take them all . BIL spoke up with the guns don't , people kill people statement and the one young girl looked at him with hatred , maybe 14 years old ,and yelled, I Hate Them! I watched the parents , the mother smiled and the father showed subtle approval.
Was discussing school brainwashing with a fellow employee last week who spends time teaching his daughter to shoot and hunt , and he makes sure she understands what's behind the hatred of gun ownership . But she has kept him likewise informed how bad the school is pushing anti gun and other liberal ideas on the kids . How are we going to turn that around ?
The entire system will have to be torn down and re-educated , quite a task . In Trumps lifetime , our lifetime ? I doubt it and then comes the question of making sure the upcoming guard will be sharp enough , vigilant enough to keep the ball rolling .
Kenneth

i just hate it when f-150 ford trucks get profiled/targeted for break-ins, because of the likelihood of a hand gun find.

handguns on the street are a hot commodity, at least in many of the big cities.

i don't drive a ford f-150, but that doesn't mean i'm not a target too.

Its the tin foil hat club monthly meeting in here apparently .

Fully agreee anybody who thinks that the long term programs of the Left aren't going to win in the end is a dumbass !!!!!!!!

alwaysoutdoors , you're a visionary bud - great comment !!!

2 years house & senate - ZILCH repeat ZILCH - people just can't seem to face reality , it's them against us dems/rinos/secret rinos - right has no long term plan never has . They [we] think it's all good - I work - mind my own business - don't ask for anything from anybody - so things should go well . Yeah -OK .

Mike, this is not aimed directly at you, but to the defeatists in general.

Unfortunately, you all are ones who do not see the golden opportunity that sits before the GOP.

I live in a a suburban area of 6.5 million people. 2 million are black. 1 million are Hispanic. When I tell you that upward mobility coverts people from liberal hand out mentality to conservative "make your own destiny", I'm telling you I see it in Black, Hispanic, Korean, Chinese, Mexican, and all the Latin Americans. Oh, let me not forget the substantial Iranian population that is intermixed that HATES radical Islam, hates the Ayatollahs and loves America. Yes, it really is so. those of you that live in Bumfuck America and think that all Blacks are Ghetto rats and all Hispanics are illegal wetbacks and all Chinese/Indians/Iranians are terrorists because in Presho South Dakota (my favorite pheasant spot) or Ugalde Texas think it's not so are delusional. the country and the world are bigger than you you think. Go back to my statement that Florida Hispanics - ALL Hispanics are more Red than Blue compared 2014 to today, you are missing the trend.

ALL people want upward mobility. Dems DO NOT offer it. Wallow in your misery and reminisce about 1956 Eisenhower America, but baby, that schist is 65 years ancient history. Reality is this: You can recruit and convert these non European immigrant easy IF you try. They are about family, self reliance, and lack of gov't control.

I repeat, not all Blacks are Ghetto Rats. you only see those on the news. Not every Hispanic is illegal. I will tell you that those Hispanics here LEGALLY aren't for ILLEGAL immigration. They worked too hard to do things the right way to turn a blink eye to those who who don't.

Believe me and see a path to victory, or ignore this and wallow in misery and defeatism. If you cannot see the positive opportunity that sits in front of us, I will bet you have missed many golden opportunity for prosperity and happiness in your own lives. Narrow minds never excel.

The Northeast and West Coast WHITE liberals are a far greater threat to America than immigrants. Immigrants want the American dream and will work for it. They will vote for IF they are recruited.

Dare I say it? Immigrants, IF recruited properly can SAVEAmerica from the Leftist WHITE Progressives. Bristoe can't see it because Ron Paul hasn't written an OP ED on it. Can you? do you have vision or are you already defeated. Do you have a game plan for the fight ahead, or have you submitted to the Progressives?

If you can't see there is a clear path to a conservative majority in America - with WORK- then I bet you are one of those grey, aging boomers who talk big about the coming Civil War but refuse to realize that with your arthritis, bad hip, 42" waist, and bad eyesight that you are not going to amount to schit in a Civil War. Sorry for the reality check. I'm a Boomer, I try to keep in shape, but the young dude will kick my ass and yours. Sorry, truth hurts. So does aging and you can be stubborn as hell and still get your ass kicked. 30 year olds kick ass better than 65 year olds. By looking at the age of the poster here, there are a hellofva lot more 65+ year olds than 30 year olds. You can think your smart, but you'll still get your ass kicked.

So what's it gonna be? Roll over and let the Dems win? OR....recruit immigrants that believe and THIRST for low taxes, love GOD, believe in self reliance, distrust the gov't????


Or, live your dying days longing for Mayberry RFD when White People ran everything? Newsflash: see intro from Gone With The Wind for you people.

“There was a land of Cavaliers and Cotton Fields called the Old South. Here in this pretty world, Gallantry took its last bow. Here was the last ever to be seen of Knights and their Ladies Fair, of Master and of Slave.[i] Look for it only in books, for it is no more than a dream remembered, a Civilization gone with the wind...”

You know, Jimmy Carter told us that America's best days were behind her. Obama told us the same. Said manufacturing jobs and a strong economy were history. Not coming back and get over it. Ronald Reagan said America's best days were ahead.

Who are you gonna believe????????

This!

As I posted before - Google Communist Party USA platform.

Then Google Democratic Party USA platform

They are indistiguishable, as the goal is the same:

The destruction of Capitalism, disarmament of common citizens, total control over the "deplorables"- and their own minions.

hat, is more correct than wrong...A strong and strategic GOP message crafted at this opportunity could move across several minority voting blocks, pushing them to the hard Right.

Provide a picture to these people of life under socialist rule where they’re hard earned future and financial gains made in the USA will now be given away to support those who chose not to work for the dream they made happen for themselves.

Elizabeth, Bernie, and Redeye Joe will get into anyone’s pocket if they are successful. Regardless of skin color.

Now, someone smart enough in the GOP needs to translate Trump speak to reach them. 😎

All the more reason for President Trump to get down to business and indict, arrest, prosecute and execute those involved in the coup, before the 2020 election.

It was President Trump that used the word “ Treason” to describe what the Obama FBI, DOJ and Democrat Party did.

Time to do what you have always done, back up your words with action.

Times a wasting Mr President, get-r-done .

Not a defeatist - a realist .
You know how long i've been reading ; AS MINORITIES BECOME MORE UPWARDLY MOBILE / MOVING INTO WHITE COLLAR JOBS / HIGH RANKING POSITIONS IN GOV'T / BUSINESS OWNERS etc. etc. they'll become more republican than democrat ? at least 25 years if not 30 years that's how long. I didn't believe it then and I don't believe now . You forgot about the jews - I guess they'll start voting Right too ?
Agree not all blacks are hoodrats but many are and the vast majority have the hoodrat mentality which has been ''' the cool thing to do ''' how many are into gangsa rap ? now the majority of the youth are into the gangsa lifestyle - they're all that way here on the coast even wannabee country boys & girls are down with the cause .

We can all be ''positive'' all we want - I read Trumps book - art of the deal - he spoke of driving negative thoughts out of your mind - rethinking your thinking doesn't change the truth but it does help a person to make more money in business .
Your enthusiasm and positivity isn't going to change the mindset of the majority - schools/tv/social media and those 'white liberals' you speak of have a YUGE head start on you . <-- Reality .
Start a thread titled ol mikes a dumbass when manufacturing returns to the USA - where once again we are the world force in manufacturing - i'll go kill a few crows and eat them - on video .
Unless the illegals are put out of this country [they won't be] the country is lost .
I do fully agree on the white liberals - indeed all forms of them feminist/et.al. are the biggest problem but no one is treating them like they deserve to be treated .
Per the physical shape -me- i'm 198lbs. 32'' waist 6'-2'' haven't worked with any younger people who can keep up with me and damn sure aren't doing the things i was doing when i was their age . Agree though that most in our age group could use a considerable amount of PT/weight loss , around here --> pathetic ...

Who am i going to believe ? i'm going to believe my own eyes and ears because they see and hear what's going on around me . . .
OK over & out .

NO end to the drama, but Trump will win. Get used to it.

To balance supreme court they will just add liberal judges to it until they have the majority. There is no set number of judges for the supreme court.