did Adam and Eve had belly buttons?

persiandog,

are you channeling your inner Gus?

Too funny.

Geno

Of course, they were put there to break up the monotony, like nipples on a man.

"Well you can just rock me to sleep tonight"

Opus.

doubtful that they did.

would have served no redeeming social value, or biological for that matter.

if we believe the story as it is written.

That’s interesting

Just like nipples on a man, Gus. But there they are, breaking up an otherwise boringly blank space.

we'll be discussing "as above, so below" before all is said and done?

Would beat the evolution thread.

Eve, can I stick my finger in your belly button?

I guess so Adam...

Adam! That's NOT my belly button!

That's OK, Eve. That's not my finger either...

Men have nipples because all embryos start out female. Males don't start developing as such until about 7 weeks after conception, by which time the nipples have already formed. The real kicker is that some men can even produce milk under emergency conditions.

Oldie. Usually toldt using Ellie Mae and Jethro Bodine.

Or Rastus and Lizza Jane...

HilhamHawk, Now don't go adding reason to this thread.

Pillsbury Doughboy doesn't have one but in all commercials at the end someone touches his belly button location . this is going to be a weird monday.

Well, what does science have to say on the question?

is it more or less likely that eve (hah-vah) had a belly button compared to likelihood that adam had one?

what about Lilith? anyone care to speculate?

i hear speculation can get one far in this world.

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6674/1214/1600/BloomCountyLooseTailsAdamandEvepg53bottom.jpg



I knew I could find it.

Excellent work, Dion!

Well I don't think anyone knows since there was no one around except them although I'm sure some of our astute scientist types will tell us all about it.

Yeah, Eve had a little diamond in hers.

If they had sex, was it incesturbation? You know, Eve being created from Adam's rib and all....

no, but i think a lot of incest came in the next and succeeding generations though.

in the nite, after dark who would ever know?

Clierced pit too?

A what?

a tongue clacker

Nipples on a man are just proof of evolution.........

Proof that the smart women evolved into men.........

No! No! No! Not evolution again!

the rank & file are clamoring for a much more detailed account of the evolution of the appendix in men and women.

that is, it (the appendix) seems to have very little redeeming social value.

my son had his appendix out at midnight back in the day.

the surgeon said he'd be fine without it.

but would die as things are.

Anyone heard from gopher gunner?

Yes they did, made in god's image.

Gus, Last I heard someone theorized it served as a place where good gut bacteria could hide. I'm skeptical. Would've gotten to know another uncle but for appendicitis leading to peritonitis. Story was the surgeon on call was a mite tipsy. That was before antibiotics and rampant malpractice suits. Point is I think of that when people wax eloquent over the good old days.

That just makes for a greater conundrum.

Ok think about it.....

Ponder why would God have a navel? That would make my head hurt.

Old wives tale...they never existed. That story is totally preposterous. Sorry all you thumpers.

it was long ago, and far away and i was on assignment.

my darling wife was on duty, and she got the off-spring to the local hospital.

the surgeon said appendicitis has to be taken seriously. very seriously, no time for discussion.

not to meander too far from the main center of the road, anyone who places god into an image is heretical?

that is, who knows what god looks like? YHWH, or any other for that matter. to hang up a pic. of god is heresy?

No, nothing wrong with imagining God in an image you best relate to. A relationship is the whole point. For instance in the book and movie "The Shack" God the Father was portrayed as a heavy set middle aged Black woman who loved to cook. Explanation in the book was that was the image that the protagonist could best relate to. And did the fundamentalists go nuts! Why not? Personally some image with a body like Hercules and great flowing white hair and beard never did much for me. Maybe it was the black cook in nursery school.She made the best apple brown Betty. A big lady she seemed rather stern and imposing to a 4 year old but if I asked politely and finished my lunch she would give me one of the leftover. And smile.

pls share with us lowly commoners what the mainstream thinks he looks like?

he is a he, right? he doesn't have to be in my book. maybe in yours?

not necessarily, since 'likeness' does not have to mean precisely modelled from,
but can mean; similitude or something resembling.

Genesis 1;26
"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness..."

https://biblehub.com/interlinear/genesis/1-26.htm

then followed 'mankind 2.0' belly button version, with the natural birth of Cain.

this is an exceedingly difficult subject for folks who have done their best to follow the tradition nearly forever.

some people, right or wrong, who walk amongst us say it's heresy to worship any image of god whatsoever.

what does he/she/they look like? god is undefinable, no image whatsoever.

that idea or concept of the Great Divine, just seems to set some folks on fire.

"our likeness"??

How many gods were there, and was one named Asherah?

how many gods or their descendents lived up on top of mt olympus?

we humans have struggled for some 2000 years to reduce the number of gods to a more manageable number.

astarte was a good one too. the patriarchs of the hebrew tradition ran an organized system to kill off the goddess religion.

i just hate it when the ancient gods were involved in competition because of their various followers. and noone had a good camera.

Middle East folk were largely poor and living beyond their means trying to support numerous Gods , whereas the Romans
with their advanced expansive realm, wealth and status could afford the luxury of many more illustrious Gods.

nothing beats the bling-bling of having more gods than anyone else...

A SOURDOUGH STORY
by Robert Service
(24 Hour Campfire comment: a poem about a sourdough, St. Peter and Adam)

Hark to the Sourdough story, told at sixty below,
When the pipes are lit and we smoke and spit
Into the campfire glow.
Rugged are we and hoary, and statin' a general rule,
A genooine Sourdough story
Ain't no yarn for the Sunday School.

A Sourdough came to stake his claim in Heav'n one morning early.
Saint Peter cried: "Who waits outside them gates so bright and pearly?"
"I'm recent dead," the Sourdough said, "and crave to visit Hades,
Where haply pine some pals o' mine, includin' certain ladies."
Said Peter: "Go, you old Sourdough, from life so crooly riven;
And if ye fail to find their trail, we'll have a snoop round Heaven."

He waved, and lo! that old Sourdough dropped down to Hell's red spaces;
But though 'twas hot he couldn't spot them old familiar faces.
The bedrock burned, and so he turned, and climbed with footsteps fleeter,
The stairway straight to Heaven's gate, and there, of course, was Peter.
"I cannot see my mates," sez he, "among those damned forever.
I have a hunch some of the bunch in Heaven I'll discover."
Said Peter: "True; and this I'll do (since Sourdoughs are my failing)
You see them guys in Paradise, lined up against the railing -
As bald as coots, in birthday suits, with beards below the middle . . .
Well, I'll allow you in right now, if you can solve a riddle:
Among that gang of stiffs who hang and dodder round the portals,
Is one whose name is know to Fame - it's Adam, first of mortals.
For quiet's sake he makes a break from Eve, which is his Madame. . . .
Well, there's the gate - To crash it straight, just spy the guy that's Adam."

The old Sourdough went down the row of greybeards ruminatin'
With optics dim they peered at him, and pressed agin the gratin'.
In every face he sought some trace of our ancestral father;
But though he stared, he soon despaired the faintest clue to gather.
Then suddenly he whooped with glee: "Ha! Ha! an inspiration."
And to and fro along the row he ran with animation.
To Peter, bold he cried: "Behold, all told there are eleven.
Suppose I fix on Number Six - say Boy! How's that for Heaven?"

"By gosh! you win," said Pete. "Step in. But tell me how you chose him.
They're like as pins; all might be twins. There's nothing to disclose him."
The Sourdough said: "'Twas hard; my head was seething with commotion.
I felt a dunce; then all at once I had a gorgeous notion.
I stooped and peered beneath each beard that drooped like fleece of mutton.
My search was crowned. . . . That bird I found - ain't got no belly button."


Robert William Service

Well yes we cannot ignore the anti-Canaanite agenda of the Torah and the brutal way in which they axed Asherah
out of the picture.

when there's earth changes due to climate change, and things become a bit more harsh, then even religion can change?

nothing wrong with worshipping an urth god, but at some point worshipping a sky-god seemed to be a bit more profitable?

the patriarchy was doing it's best to protect, and allow the survival of the human race under dramatic climatic changes?

(i don't know, as i wasn't there). but when the human struggle for survival kicks into high gear, then drastic changes can occur?

Depends on which bible you read. Was Eve Adam's sister? Was god there father?

Eve made from Adams rib , so they have the same DNA, but they are not clones. ..

Adam = made for the glory of God ..Eve = made for the glory of man.

Adam made a trip to the zoo and named all the creatures before Eve hit the scene
then Eve arrived as a 'gift' companion /helper. (with Adam naming her Eve.)

Why not make Eve from the ground at the same time as Adam?

Interesting story as far as creation myths go.

The Greek myth of Pandora as the first earthly woman together with the element of trickery and A certain curious-defiant action,
(opening Pandoras box).. thus bringing-unleashing all the evils upon mankind...is no less pitch worthy.

Greek mythology is great. Morality tales at their best.

Man was going to last forever but got Eve as a companion. Eve coaxed Adam to eat the apple and now we all must die, but at least we have a really good way to reproduce in the meantime. What was Adam going to use his penis for otherwise? Maybe he never had one to start with? Maybe Eve also had a penis, until that fateful event with that apple?

don't blame Eve, the couple would have still eaten of The Tree of Life in the garden,
but God then denied them access.

God gave Adam the best he could expect for a rib, a much better woman would have cost him an arm and a leg
and maybe a kidney.

Animated dust of the Earth, a Rib and a Talking Serpent....what could go wrong?

Yes, interesting transaction - I don't think we're getting the full story

Did anyone read the Robert Service poem? The old sourdough solves the question of whether Adam had a belly button in the last line of the poem.

The archaeologists who found the fossilized remains of Adam and Eve discovered that yes, Adam was actually missing a rib. That finding proved that Adam must have been a white man- - - - - -everybody knows you can't get a rib away from a groid!
Jerry