They need their asses kicked. Badly.
And to never be allowed to hunt again. Ever.
Aside from that, someone needs to take that fuggin video down. Idiots.
Requires logging into facebook.
Links just brings up a page trying to make you sign up for "face book".
Links just brings up a page trying to make you sign up for "face book".
Two teenage "hunters" kicking a downed buck that's still alive in the head...
Time for an butt whooping
Awful, can’t believe that!
Pretty stupid as well since Trump made animal cruelty a major offense just last week.
Gee. I wonder why the non hunting public has a bad taste in their mouths about hunters?
Every anti hunting group their is will be playing that in loop.
Too bad the deer couldn't get up and run tines through his abdomen and lower.
Time for an butt whooping
Respect should be taught early. The later in life the harder the punishment or lesson has to be.
stx:
Top of the morning to you Roger, I hope that this first Sunday in the last month of 2019 finds you well and that it's a tad warmer down in your part of the world than it is here in southern BC!
Thanks for alerting us to this video, it's something that I'm personally going to be using when I teach my 31st season of the BC Hunter Safety Course next spring - the Good Lord willing, the creek don't rise and I'm still here...
For those not familiar with the course and standards needed to hunt in BC, we teach a course which is 8 nights of 2 hours per class - that's including a non-mandatory shooting night that our gun club has included. Anyway one can also buy the book and challenge the test, but for the most part we've had really good feedback from new hunters of all ages in that they get a really good grounding from the different instructors on each night.
We start with the ethics and conservation night, to let new hunters understand the time, effort, sweat and money that previous generations of hunters have laid down in order to have what we do today. As well it lets them know there's a lot of us involved in those conservation efforts still today. For us older guys it's very much for the next shift anymore as we've had our proverbial "time in the sun" - or on the mountains in our case.vc
Anyway sir, all that to say that we now talk a fair bit about videoing hunting activity and the present proclivity to post everything from brushing one's teeth to the morning constitutional bathroom experience on social media.
For the ever loving life of me, I can't grasp the need of some folks to do so and honestly I'll note too that it's not only kids doing it.
For the most part, I'll continue to take it as part of the ever changing world that this BC redneck semi-dinosaur and part time cowboy can't grasp....
The kids in the photo were poorly taught and raised in my opinion. If beatings are called for - and I'll not say they're not by the way - then after a thorough investigation I'll make an educated guess that there should be more than those two youngsters involved, you know?
Thanks again for some sad but relevant teaching material Roger and all the best to you as we head into winter.
Dwayne
there is no time nor no place for this sort of thing...….it's a good reason to have corporal punishment.
The fk'r will be found...
this guy posted pics of local kids torturing a wounded buck on his fb page
Local Brookville, PA high school boys, Cody Hetrick and Alex Smith, torturing a helpless deer while hunting... Charges need to be pressed! Posting in case original post gets deleted.
Pennsylvania Game Commission
WJAC-TV News
WTAJ-TV
I've never signed an online petition before. This seems like the best time to start.
https://www.change.org/p/u-s-fish-a...wildlife/psf/promote_or_share?recruiter=I figure with a little help from the fire, the total can easily reach the goal.
Little mf'ers should be castrated.
there is no time nor no place for this sort of thing...….it's a good reason to have corporal punishment.
In all reality, what positive things will result in their continued oxygen thievery? If they’ve made it this far in life and this is how they behave, they won’t change. People don’t change.
They deserve the butt-out tool.
Disgusting young fools need their ass kicked and skulls bashed .
I wish I never opened the link. F ucking scumbags.
The Pennsylvania Game Commission just posted on their FB account that the boys were ID’d and an investigation is underway.
They are sick and need a beating of their own. They would soon hate and fear me if I were in their presence.
What is the Petition? All I see is a page asking for $3.00 and now has it has gone up to $7.00.
Jim
Truly sickening. I could only watch the first kick then my blood pressure spiked
Good grief. Unbelievable.
Now they are asking for $14.00. WTH?
Jim
That caning thing they do in Singapore seems about right.
Unfortunately the PA game commission will do nothing to these two heathen..as there is no money to be made from prosecuting them.
Now had they been checked and found to have last year's license still in their backtag holder they would be fined 600 bucks each, had their hunting privileges removed for 5 years and been made to do a year's worth of community service
They don't understand that deer are a gift.
Sad and disgusting! I couldn't watch it after the second kick! I hope they are prosecuted.
Idunno how long the FB video post was but one popped up on YT for about 5 minutes before it was removed due to graphic content.
It was only 20 or 30 seconds long and showed two young kids walking up on a deer it appeared they had just shot and found it wasn't dead and grabbed "the horn" then didn't know what to do. The right antler looked to be blown off at the button, one kid pointed that out and the other commented that someone (by name) could fix that, like their intent was to have it mounted.
For lack of experience and being caught up in the excitement of having a live deer in hand the kid kicked the deer in the face a couple times then the video ended.
I saw nothing that told me they were anything but inexperienced but wanted to finish the deer off and really didn't know just how much it was going to take.
Posting the video was their bigger error.
Then everything spiraled outta control thanks to FB drama and the queens that find themselves caught up in such crap.
Maybe I saw the wrong video?
I don’t do FB, so I can’t see the video. Probably wouldn’t watch it even if I could. I get the “just” of it from the above posts.
My feelings are the same as already mentioned. I would add that there is good evidence that small kids that show a propensity for cruelty and harming of animals may possibly become sociopaths or worse psychopaths.
I wouldn’t go as far as saying both deserve a bullet to the face - but a serious public beating with a leather strap until their asses open and bleed could provide fast realignment of those misguided behaviors...If that didn’t work - a bullet in their brain will correct the problem.
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I wish I never opened the link. F ucking scumbags.
pretty much the way i feel. i would suggest them being tied out in a public square and caned.
or kicked in the head like they were doing.
i don't buy that younger hunter, lack of experience b.s.
if they didn't know how to put it down in a humane manner they shouldn't have been hunting.
and they were giggling about it.
The Pennsylvania Game Commission just posted on their FB account that the boys were ID’d and an investigation is underway.
Good. Hopefully they will pay a hefty price and have their hunting/fishing privileges' revoked for life.
Watching that video once was enough, no respect for the animals they hunt. Wish the deer could swap positions and gore the crap out of those two punks.
Idunno how long the FB video post was but one popped up on YT for about 5 minutes before it was removed due to graphic content.
It was only 20 or 30 seconds long and showed two young kids walking up on a deer it appeared they had just shot and found it wasn't dead and grabbed "the horn" then didn't know what to do. The right antler looked to be blown off at the button, one kid pointed that out and the other commented that someone (by name) could fix that, like their intent was to have it mounted.
For lack of experience and being caught up in the excitement of having a live deer in hand the kid kicked the deer in the face a couple times then the video ended.
I saw nothing that told me they were anything but inexperienced but wanted to finish the deer off and really didn't know just how much it was going to take.
Posting the video was their bigger error.
Then everything spiraled outta control thanks to FB drama and the queens that find themselves caught up in such crap.
Maybe I saw the wrong video?
They kicked it more than a couple of times.
They were laughing.
It wasn't an attempt to finish off the deer.
Pretty stupid as well since Trump made animal cruelty a major offense just last week.
What a pos. Animal cruelty is now up to 5 years. He's in deep schit.
Really needs his head kicked.
I betcha they are gonna get spanked hard, wait an see.
Idunno how long the FB video post was but one popped up on YT for about 5 minutes before it was removed due to graphic content.
It was only 20 or 30 seconds long and showed two young kids walking up on a deer it appeared they had just shot and found it wasn't dead and grabbed "the horn" then didn't know what to do. The right antler looked to be blown off at the button, one kid pointed that out and the other commented that someone (by name) could fix that, like their intent was to have it mounted.
For lack of experience and being caught up in the excitement of having a live deer in hand the kid kicked the deer in the face a couple times then the video ended.
I saw nothing that told me they were anything but inexperienced but wanted to finish the deer off and really didn't know just how much it was going to take.
Posting the video was their bigger error.
Then everything spiraled outta control thanks to FB drama and the queens that find themselves caught up in such crap.
Maybe I saw the wrong video?
They kicked it more than a couple of times.
They were laughing.
It wasn't an attempt to finish off the deer.
Exactly. It wasn’t laying there on its own, SOMETHING was used to disable it. If these kids aren’t smart enough to connect those dots, they should probably be given lobotomy’s and put in a home.
OR, the more plausible explanation, they are a couple of azzholes who need to get beat to the last inch of their miserable lives.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06nNNpKGBEYHere's part of the video without going through facebook. The second half was already taken down by Youtube and was more graphic. Fckng punks!
I am from PA and in no way going to stand for this SH*T. I called the Game commission right away when I found out. They know, they are getting slammed with phone calls. All hunters. Who are pissed. Time to have these two out of the wood for the rest of their lives and no more weapons of any kind.
There was NOTHING Humane about their behavior ....They were laughing while they were torturing that buck...They are not worthy of that animal and deserve a mouth to the curb stomp.
Idunno how long the FB video post was but one popped up on YT for about 5 minutes before it was removed due to graphic content.
It was only 20 or 30 seconds long and showed two young kids walking up on a deer it appeared they had just shot and found it wasn't dead and grabbed "the horn" then didn't know what to do. The right antler looked to be blown off at the button, one kid pointed that out and the other commented that someone (by name) could fix that, like their intent was to have it mounted.
For lack of experience and being caught up in the excitement of having a live deer in hand the kid kicked the deer in the face a couple times then the video ended.
I saw nothing that told me they were anything but inexperienced but wanted to finish the deer off and really didn't know just how much it was going to take.
Posting the video was their bigger error.
Then everything spiraled outta control thanks to FB drama and the queens that find themselves caught up in such crap.
Maybe I saw the wrong video?
They kicked it more than a couple of times.
They were laughing.
It wasn't an attempt to finish off the deer.
Punks like this would laugh just as much if they were doing that to a human. There is something missing in their pea brains, and there's a good chance they are sociopaths. I'd like to tie them down and see how they like it.
Looks like it was shot in the spine and paralyzed. Those two [bleep] kids definitely sociopaths.Must of had wonderful parents
I watched the vid til the 2nd kick. I hunt deer and am respectful of them. Clean, humane kills, or at least put them out of their misery as quickly as possible.
Watching that video made me cry, and I don't cry.
I am pissed!!
I would hope a couple of local boys see fit to deal with these two as they need seen to, the publicity alone is the last thing hunters need, and in this case we don't know if they were hunting, or this was a deer struck by a car , these young men are not hunters, they are punks that need taught a lesson in life !
There are some really pissed off people, I'm guessing these two are in hiding and pissing themselves, over the furor headed their way, and very deservingly !
I would hope a couple of local boys see fit to deal with these two as they need seen to, the publicity alone is the last thing hunters need, and in this case we don't know if they were hunting, or this was a deer struck by a car , these young men are not hunters, they are punks that need taught a lesson in life !
There are some really pissed off people, I'm guessing these two are in hiding and pissing themselves, over the furor headed their way, and very deservingly !
Well, judging from the camouflage from head to toe, and blaze orange vests, I doubt they were driving to church.
Single mother households?
A real Dad wouldn't allow this kind of disrespect.
I would hope a couple of local boys see fit to deal with these two as they need seen to, the publicity alone is the last thing hunters need, and in this case we don't know if they were hunting, or this was a deer struck by a car , these young men are not hunters, they are punks that need taught a lesson in life !
There are some really pissed off people, I'm guessing these two are in hiding and pissing themselves, over the furor headed their way, and very deservingly !
Well, judging from the camouflage from head to toe, and blaze orange vests, I doubt they were driving to church.
That's typical methead attire in small town USA, the lack of teeth is a dead give away ! They likely traded a model 94 that their grandfather gave them for the week buzz !
I know I will chip in c note for anyone that wants to rid them of the rest of their teeth !
Get them drunk and dress them up in a MAGA T/Shirt and Hat and dump them where all the Antifa bums hang out somewhere in Potlandia...
They can experience the same experience they gave the downed deer....
That's my second thought....
First thought involves a 45, and a close range head shot each, for two clowns tied to a couple of trees...
Addendum:
actually on second thought 15 minutes later.... I just wish some hunters around our age had ran across the little punks doing that, and knew there would be no witnesses for a couple of miles around...
Would be nice if the PA Game Dept found the deer and the two boys, all in the same condition.....
I have to agree with the suggestion about sociopaths, I know it’s a deer and not a human but when I watched the joy in their faces in the act and the flashes of rage while they were kicking. Displaced emotions playing out on a defenseless animal. They had a human in mind.
That being said I have great respect for the animals I hunt, can say for sure never felt any animosity for them or any quarry.
It really was disturbing on a lot of levels.
MM
F U C K facebook !!!!!!!!!!!
I can’t even put my feelings of disgust and anger into printable words. I hate to see any animal suffer, and if I happen to hit one and am unable to recover it, I get a little sick to the stomach.
Any animal deserves better, and a game animal like a whitetail is sorta sacred to me.
7mm
like i said pretty f-ucked up these are the guys who would laugh while beating your kid to death.
Work the little azzoles over with a belt sander and dump 'em into a vat of alcohol. Then beat their fingers with a Louisville Slugger every time they try to climb out!
Hard to watch. No respect for the resource and a black eye for all of us that love hunting. Definitely sobering.
this guy posted pics of local kids torturing a wounded buck on his fb page
Local Brookville, PA high school boys, Cody Hetrick and Alex Smith, torturing a helpless deer while hunting... Charges need to be pressed! Posting in case original post gets deleted.
Pennsylvania Game Commission
WJAC-TV News
WTAJ-TV
I used to hunt in Brookville years ago, doesn't surprise me 1 bit to be honest....bunch of Hillbilly's and poachers up there.
Looks like it was shot in the spine and paralyzed. Those two [bleep] kids definitely sociopaths.Must of had wonderful parents
Looking at them, I feel like I’ve already met their “parents”.
Also looks to me that those two youths are high on something.
Came across a post by one of their moms earlier. She thinks you guys’ comments are going to far. And it’s no different than possum stomping or being mean to cats. (Her words, I paraphrased).
Came across a post by one of their moms earlier. She thinks you guys’ comments are going to far. And it’s no different than possum stomping or being mean to cats. (Her words, I paraphrased).
link
Ph ucking parents of these types of kids always stagger out of the trailer and talk about what great kids they were/are..
My wife just said they are on video abusing other animals as well. A Groundhog and something else. One of the kids mothers is defending them but also saying they should be punished, that was on Facebook as well, it was a direct quote from her. Lock those fuqheads up. Also she just showed me on Facebook a post under spicebrooks page a screen shot of blood on a concrete bridge of where they smashed a groundhogs head against it.
Came across a post by one of their moms earlier. She thinks you guys’ comments are going to far. And it’s no different than possum stomping or being mean to cats. (Her words, I paraphrased).
link
Pretty much how most serial killers start out.
Those kids need their asses stomped. And that mother too. 😡
2 Million Bikers PA Facebook page has the video of the groundhog being thrown off a bridge and rocks being thrown onto the animal. The other animal is on spice brooks Facebook page as well. It’s a chipmunk that one of them pinned down with a piece of down spout and stomped its head.
I have hunted since I was 14 years old.
That was awful. They are truly disgusting, low life scum. Human filth.
This video is going to do more damage against hunting than we can know. PETA has big time ammo now. Their mission is make us all look like these losers.
I have hunted since I was 14 years old.
That was awful. They are truly disgusting, low life scum. Human filth.
This video is going to do more damage against hunting than we can know. PETA has big time ammo now. Their mission is make us all look like these losers.
PREZACTLY
I’m glad they got caught, If I had seen it I would have called it in...
Where the heck did those guys learn morals, ethics, .... I hope the get a record, the behavior is telling of thier values.
Came across a post by one of their moms earlier. She thinks you guys’ comments are going to far. And it’s no different than possum stomping or being mean to cats. (Her words, I paraphrased).
link
Found this browsing PA Fish and Game page. “They ran out of bullets and didn’t have a knife”
https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...mp;set=a.10150174255885265&source=48One of the moms comments
https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...mp;set=p.10218410129156765&source=47
Looks like it was shot in the spine and paralyzed. Those two [bleep] kids definitely sociopaths.Must of had wonderful parents
Looking at them, I feel like I’ve already met their “parents”.
Also looks to me that those two youths are high on something.
And its not weed, there is history that will come out, a brother, a police chief and.........Its a sad situation, small town USA !
It's not the deer but total lack of empathy that scares me.
Kids do rally stupid things, giving in to impulses, particularly as a group. Quoting University of Rochester Medical Center for one, "The rational part of a teen’s brain isn’t fully developed and won’t be until age 25 or so. " This is beyond dispute. Hopefully a criminal prosecution will be a swift slap up side the head and they'll straighten up. Those that don't take the hint are why I conceal carry. Fortunately most do.
And some of you guys wanted the death penalty for the kid that lifted his leg.
It's not the deer but total lack of empathy that scares me.
Like I mentioned before, this is PREZACTLY how serial killers start out. Before they graduate to humans.
Oh I’m sure they will turn the tears on when the cops show up. They are all hard asses until Johnny law shows up.
Time for an butt whooping
Past time, for those sociopathic POS's They need to be kicked around for a while.
Oh I’m sure they will turn the tears on when the cops show up. They are all hard asses until Johnny law shows up.
You might be surprised. Being charged for a misdemeanor even will make some teens stand up and become men.
Oh I’m sure they will turn the tears on when the cops show up. They are all hard asses until Johnny law shows up.
You might be surprised. Being charged for a misdemeanor even will make some teens stand up and become men.
Nope
28 years dealing with sociopaths and have seen this hundreds of times. The die has been cast in these young Men's character and the moms are enablers and the sperm donors( Dads) are out of the picture. More felonies and destructive behavior and incarceration to come. Welcome to America
Don't do facebook...never will.......
anybody with a lick of sense stays away from that crap.
So there can be no redemption? Not only is that against the American ethos but it's against modern penal science. Again you have to go back to, "The rational part of a teen’s brain isn’t fully developed and won’t be until age 25 or so. " and hopefully they recognize the magnitude of their indiscretions. Sometimes they do on reflection, sometimes they need that slap up side the head to capture their attention.
Of course sometimes nothing works and they need to be isolated from society. Once saw an old-ish guy charged with public intoxication, repeat offender. Obviously an alcoholic. Multiple programs were available. Judge bent over backwards but the defendant said that whatever, he was going to keep drinking even if it killed him. One of th saddest things I've seen.
On the other hand there was a high school age kid that was picked up for shooting a deer out of season. He pleaded guilty, allocuted in open court, and acknowledged that he'd done wrong. Very convincingly. A man who was obviously his father was present with a look like I'll fix his wagon if he ever does something like that again. No doubt in my mind he's not been back in court and has become an upstanding citizen. aAnd I've known more like him than the other.
Haven't been dealing with it for anything like 28 years but have seen good things happen.
Looks like it was shot in the spine and paralyzed. Those two [bleep] kids definitely sociopaths.Must of had wonderful parents
Looking at them, I feel like I’ve already met their “parents”.
Also looks to me that those two youths are high on something.
And its not weed, there is history that will come out, a brother, a police chief and.........Its a sad situation, small town USA !
What are you alluding to here?? I am asking because I was told last night that one of the boys father is the police chief... I was also told that the other boys father owns a BBQ joint in or near Brookville and supposedly people on facebook have started a boycott of it. I have no idea if any of this is true but am curious.
ETA: I just read on another site that the chief of police is the step dad of one of the kids and that the father of the other has a local business so there may be some merit as to what I was told yesterday.
Don't do facebook...never will.......
anybody with a lick of sense stays away from that crap.
Pretty obvious most the posters in this thread spiraled down the Face Book rabbit hole long ago.
Like a bunch of old ninnies leaning on the gossip fence they have advanced this to judgment of parents, drug use and of course capital punishment is now in order.
What a joke.
FB more useful than those kids.
One can be used for your business
Hunting sometimes doesn't go as planned.
But then, it also doesn't morph into what those kids did.
The camera or peer pressure didn't "make" them do it.
They have no concept of respect.
And yeah, that would go with some parenting flaws.
The fact they did it was bad enough.
But then they were even more A hole/stupid..............to video it.
And then even worse.............post it.
Chain of poor decisions.
The only way anybody'd forgive em is if they were black athletes.
Looks like it was shot in the spine and paralyzed. Those two [bleep] kids definitely sociopaths.Must of had wonderful parents
It seems to me that it's the parents who need the ass-kicking FIRST.....then the kids. Loss of hunting/fishing licenses for life is a start. I see that these two did the same thing before and filmed it....they started out torturing a chipmunk. It's my guess that these two are serial killers in training.
Have fam that works juvi detention center.
Lots of fugged up kids out there.
Usually low IQ, or abused, or parents did drugs.
These guys fit the low IQ/drug thing pretty well.
Don't think it was a total loss of social graces.
Chances are, outside of this incident, they are dumbfuggs all around.
See what pops up on their record the next 5 yrs. Or 10.
Funny, some old coworkers got into bad trouble legally, and if you ran the clock backwards, they were slight misfits all the way back.
Functional but just a tiny bit "different". In the way you just knew, subtle..........but alarming.
Even a varmint deserves a quick exit.
I wish I never opened the link. F ucking scumbags.
I only watched until the first kick and got sick to my stomach. Little MF'ers!
projection and enabling horrific behavior
You obviously have a different perspective regarding human nature.
Your character is basically formed by age 12 and these two angels didn't just shoot a deer out off season or steal a six pack of beer from 7 11. They torture animals and seem to derive great joy from the process and record their torture. . An ass kicking from an imaginary parent won't fix their behavior or their future as adults. They're evil sociopaths and they will become more dangerous as they age and will learn from getting caught and be more cautious in the future. I certainly wouldn't want to live in the same neighborhood as them.
So there can be no redemption? Not only is that against the American ethos but it's against modern penal science. Again you have to go back to, "The rational part of a teen’s brain isn’t fully developed and won’t be until age 25 or so. " and hopefully they recognize the magnitude of their indiscretions. Sometimes they do on reflection, sometimes they need that slap up side the head to capture their attention.
Of course sometimes nothing works and they need to be isolated from society. Once saw an old-ish guy charged with public intoxication, repeat offender. Obviously an alcoholic. Multiple programs were available. Judge bent over backwards but the defendant said that whatever, he was going to keep drinking even if it killed him. One of th saddest things I've seen.
On the other hand there was a high school age kid that was picked up for shooting a deer out of season. He pleaded guilty, allocuted in open court, and acknowledged that he'd done wrong. Very convincingly. A man who was obviously his father was present with a look like I'll fix his wagon if he ever does something like that again. No doubt in my mind he's not been back in court and has become an upstanding citizen. aAnd I've known more like him than the other.
Haven't been dealing with it for anything like 28 years but have seen good things happen.
projection and enabling horrific behavior
You obviously have a different perspective regarding human nature.
Your character is basically formed by age 12 and these two angels didn't just shoot a deer out off season or steal a six pack of beer from 7 11. They torture animals and seem to derive great joy from the process and record their torture. . An ass kicking from an imaginary parent won't fix their behavior or their future as adults. They're evil sociopaths and they will become more dangerous as they age and will learn from getting caught and be more cautious in the future.
PREZACTLY!!!