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Posted By: Robert_White Zambia defies Sodom - 12/09/19
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December 7, 2018 (LifeSiteNews) – The U.S. ambassador to Zambia quoted Pope Francis this week in urging the people of Zambia to adopt a softer line on homosexuality, amid an ongoing debate over a 15-year prison sentence for two men convicted of sodomy.

Japhet Chabata and Steven Samba were convicted last year of sex “against the order of nature,” with Judge Charles Zulu rejecting an appeal of their sentence last week.
Posted By: hookeye Re: Zambia defies Sodom - 12/09/19
Zam Ham Bam!
Posted By: Hastings Re: Zambia defies Sodom - 12/09/19
Not often but sometimes the Africans get things right. Robert Mugabe, President for life of Zimbabwe once chastised President for life Obama for condoning and promoting unnatural relations. He clearly said that life style was unchristian.
Posted By: Tyrone Re: Zambia defies Sodom - 12/09/19
Good for the Zambians!
Posted By: hanco Re: Zambia defies Sodom - 12/09/19
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Posted By: MtnBoomer Re: Zambia defies Sodom - 12/09/19
To hell with the f'aggots!
Posted By: rem141r Re: Zambia defies Sodom - 12/09/19
just toss a bucket of cold water on them. they'll stop
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: Zambia defies Sodom - 12/09/19
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Pope Francis this week in urging the people of Zambia to adopt a softer line on homosexuality
When God takes a softer line on it, I will. So far it hasn't happened.
Posted By: Snowwolfe Re: Zambia defies Sodom - 12/09/19
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
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Pope Francis this week in urging the people of Zambia to adopt a softer line on homosexuality
When God takes a softer line on it, I will. So far it hasn't happened.


When was the last time God issued a statement on it?
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: Zambia defies Sodom - 12/09/19
Well...the Muslims been throwing them off buildings and such.

Thats a pretty strong statement.
Posted By: hasbeen1945 Re: Zambia defies Sodom - 12/09/19
Originally Posted by Snowwolfe
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
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Pope Francis this week in urging the people of Zambia to adopt a softer line on homosexuality
When God takes a softer line on it, I will. So far it hasn't happened.


When was the last time God issued a statement on it?

His first statement hasn’t changed. I don’t think God is a liar. The pope can change his mind daily, don’t change anything. Hasbeen
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: Zambia defies Sodom - 12/09/19
Originally Posted by Snowwolfe
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
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Pope Francis this week in urging the people of Zambia to adopt a softer line on homosexuality
When God takes a softer line on it, I will. So far it hasn't happened.


When was the last time God issued a statement on it?
Sometime between 40 and 70AD. He hasn't changed his mind since then.
Posted By: nighthawk Re: Zambia defies Sodom - 12/09/19
Having just come from the quotes threas -

The quality of mercy is not strain'd.
It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven
Upon the place beneath. It is twice blest:
It blesseth him that gives, and him that takes.
'Tis mightiest in the mightiest; it becomes
The throned monarch better than his crown.
His scepter shows the force of temporal power,
The attribute to awe and majesty,
Wherein doth sit the dread and fear of kings;
But mercy is above this sceptered sway;
It is enthroned in the heart of kings;
It is an attribute to God himself;
And earthly power doth then show likest God's
When mercy seasons justice.
Posted By: OrangeOkie Re: Zambia defies Sodom - 12/10/19
Originally Posted by Snowwolfe
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
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Pope Francis this week in urging the people of Zambia to adopt a softer line on homosexuality
When God takes a softer line on it, I will. So far it hasn't happened.


When was the last time God issued a statement on it?


First Time - (1500 - 400 BC)
Leviticus 18:22
22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Leviticus 20:13
13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Deuteronomy 22:5
5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God.

1 Kings 14:22-24
22 And Judah did evil in the sight of the Lord, and they provoked him to jealousy with their sins which they had committed, above all that their fathers had done.

23 For they also built them high places, and images, and groves, on every high hill, and under every green tree.

24 And there were also sodomites in the land: and they did according to all the abominations of the nations which the Lord cast out before the children of Israel.

1 Kings 15:11-13
11 And Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the Lord, as did David his father.

12 And he took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made.

13 And also Maachah his mother, even her he removed from being queen, because she had made an idol in a grove; and Asa destroyed her idol, and burnt it by the brook Kidron.

2 Kings 23:4-7
4 And the king commanded Hilkiah the high priest, and the priests of the second order, and the keepers of the door, to bring forth out of the temple of the Lord all the vessels that were made for Baal, and for the grove, and for all the host of heaven: and he burned them without Jerusalem in the fields of Kidron, and carried the ashes of them unto Bethel.

5 And he put down the idolatrous priests, whom the kings of Judah had ordained to burn incense in the high places in the cities of Judah, and in the places round about Jerusalem; them also that burned incense unto Baal, to the sun, and to the moon, and to the planets, and to all the host of heaven.

6 And he brought out the grove from the house of the Lord, without Jerusalem, unto the brook Kidron, and burned it at the brook Kidron, and stamped it small to powder, and cast the powder thereof upon the graves of the children of the people.

7 And he brake down the houses of the sodomites, that were by the house of the Lord, where the women wove hangings for the grove.



Last Time - (40-70 AD)
Romans 1:26-32 King James Version (KJV)
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

Jude 4
4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

Jude 7
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
Posted By: MtnBoomer Re: Zambia defies Sodom - 12/10/19
Pretty much sums it up.
Posted By: lvmiker Re: Zambia defies Sodom - 12/10/19
The simple fact that they can't reproduce is a pretty strong statement.


mike r
Posted By: stxhunter Re: Zambia defies Sodom - 12/10/19
Zulu with a name like that, i'm sure he means business.
Posted By: OrangeOkie Re: Zambia defies Sodom - 12/10/19
They are simply mentally disturbed individuals who the state believes must be given every single privilege as a perfectly sane person, who is normal. And all of the sane normal people must bend over and take one up the rear, on behalf of these mental cases, and write 100 times on the chalk board . . . "LBGQT are normal, sane people just like me!"
Posted By: hanco Re: Zambia defies Sodom - 12/10/19
This reminds me I go see urologist Thursday. Yee Haw! Can’t wait to get a finger up my ass. At least it’s a nice looking Chinese woman.
Posted By: Goosey Re: Zambia defies Sodom - 12/10/19
15 years for having sex. This thread is disgusting, many of the posters above are fascists. Literally.

"Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society"
Posted By: OrangeOkie Re: Zambia defies Sodom - 12/10/19
Originally Posted by Goosey
15 years for having sex. This thread is disgusting, many of the posters above are fascists. Literally.

"Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society"



Facism - sounds like the Democrat Party to me.
Posted By: 12344mag Re: Zambia defies Sodom - 12/10/19
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Well...the Muslims been throwing them off buildings and such.

Thats a pretty strong statement.



So the Muslims get one thing right...........
Posted By: jaguartx Re: Zambia defies Sodom - 12/10/19
Originally Posted by OrangeOkie
Originally Posted by Snowwolfe
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Quote
Pope Francis this week in urging the people of Zambia to adopt a softer line on homosexuality
When God takes a softer line on it, I will. So far it hasn't happened.


When was the last time God issued a statement on it?


First Time - (1500 - 400 BC)
Leviticus 18:22
22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Leviticus 20:13
13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Deuteronomy 22:5
5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God.

1 Kings 14:22-24
22 And Judah did evil in the sight of the Lord, and they provoked him to jealousy with their sins which they had committed, above all that their fathers had done.

23 For they also built them high places, and images, and groves, on every high hill, and under every green tree.

24 And there were also sodomites in the land: and they did according to all the abominations of the nations which the Lord cast out before the children of Israel.

1 Kings 15:11-13
11 And Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the Lord, as did David his father.

12 And he took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made.

13 And also Maachah his mother, even her he removed from being queen, because she had made an idol in a grove; and Asa destroyed her idol, and burnt it by the brook Kidron.

2 Kings 23:4-7
4 And the king commanded Hilkiah the high priest, and the priests of the second order, and the keepers of the door, to bring forth out of the temple of the Lord all the vessels that were made for Baal, and for the grove, and for all the host of heaven: and he burned them without Jerusalem in the fields of Kidron, and carried the ashes of them unto Bethel.

5 And he put down the idolatrous priests, whom the kings of Judah had ordained to burn incense in the high places in the cities of Judah, and in the places round about Jerusalem; them also that burned incense unto Baal, to the sun, and to the moon, and to the planets, and to all the host of heaven.

6 And he brought out the grove from the house of the Lord, without Jerusalem, unto the brook Kidron, and burned it at the brook Kidron, and stamped it small to powder, and cast the powder thereof upon the graves of the children of the people.

7 And he brake down the houses of the sodomites, that were by the house of the Lord, where the women wove hangings for the grove.



Last Time - (40-70 AD)
Romans 1:26-32 King James Version (KJV)
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

Jude 4
4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

Jude 7
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.




I think you're describing some dimocraps we know.
Posted By: OrangeOkie Re: Zambia defies Sodom - 12/10/19
Originally Posted by jaguartx


I think you're describing some dimocraps we know.


Exactly. Who comes t mind when you read this one?

1 Timothy 1:10
For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars,
for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
Posted By: jaguartx Re: Zambia defies Sodom - 12/10/19
Originally Posted by Goosey
15 years for having sex. This thread is disgusting, many of the posters above are fascists. Literally.

"Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society"


So believers are fasciasts?
Your bud Zero is a corksucker. Sounds like you may well be one too.
Posted By: chlinstructor Re: Zambia defies Sodom - 12/10/19
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by Goosey
15 years for having sex. This thread is disgusting, many of the posters above are fascists. Literally.

"Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society"


So believers are fasciasts?
Your bud Zero is a corksucker. Sounds like you may well be one too.


No doubt!!!
Posted By: Dixie_Dude Re: Zambia defies Sodom - 12/10/19
In 1892, the chief justice of the Supreme Court said that the United States was a Christian nation and our laws reflected Christian values. Hmmm, how far we have fallen. Gay sex was once illegal nationwide, so was abortion. Prayer was in school, as well as the pledge, prayer and pledge before ballgames. Jews didn't go against this. It was atheists and communists. Oh, neither was cursing in public or in movies or TV. My how we have changes. This is why we have murders, rapes, drugs, stealing, etc, going rampant. No morality being taught by parents, and by the system.
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: Zambia defies Sodom - 12/10/19
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Well...the Muslims been throwing them off buildings and such.

Thats a pretty strong statement.



So the Muslims get one thing right...........




Yeesh!

I dont reckon too many people need thrown off buildings. Some yes.


Posted By: mark shubert Re: Zambia defies Sodom - 12/10/19
Originally Posted by Goosey
15 years for having sex. This thread is disgusting, many of the posters above are fascists. Literally.

"Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society"



NOT just sex - homosexual sex !

Is your screen name related to this issue?
Posted By: Slavek Re: Zambia defies Sodom - 12/10/19
Originally Posted by Goosey
15 years for having sex. This thread is disgusting, many of the posters above are fascists. Literally.

"Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society"


Don't worry, for most part American diplomatic posts supports LGBT movement throughout the world.
Posted By: APDDSN0864 Re: Zambia defies Sodom - 12/10/19
Originally Posted by Goosey
15 years for having sex. This thread is disgusting, many of the posters above are fascists. Literally.

"Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society"


Learn your history, dumbass, facism is another leftist ideal, a twisted variation of socialism, NOT a far-right ideal! Look at the founder of fascism and it's course through history. Calling fascism an ideal of the right is just parroting the communists. Fascists and communists hate each other, but really loathe capitalists.

Ed
Posted By: Gun_Geezer Re: Zambia defies Sodom - 12/10/19
Originally Posted by Goosey
15 years for having sex. This thread is disgusting, many of the posters above are fascists. Literally.

"Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society"

Guys screwing guys is disgusting.
Posted By: Theo Gallus Re: Zambia defies Sodom - 12/10/19
Originally Posted by Hastings
Not often but sometimes the Africans get things right. Robert Mugabe, President for life of Zimbabwe once chastised President for life Obama for condoning and promoting unnatural relations. He clearly said that life style was unchristian.

One could find a better guide to Christianity than an African Dictator.

Or the current Pope.
Posted By: JamesJr Re: Zambia defies Sodom - 12/10/19
Africa, despite most it still being many years behind the rest of world, is a place where Christians still go by what is in the Bible. It was the African members in the United Methodist Church who kept the UMC from ordaining queers as preachers. Also, those Africans who aren't Christians aren't stupid, as they know homosexuality goes against the laws of nature. It is a sad day when a place like Africa gets it right about homosexuality, and an advanced country such as ours does not.
Posted By: Birdwatcher Re: Zambia defies Sodom - 12/10/19
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Well...the Muslims been throwing them off buildings and such.

Thats a pretty strong statement.



And yet men having sex with other men and/or farm animals is a part of the culture across much of North Africa and the Near East.
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