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The theory is that the virus, which was developed by infectious disease experts to function as a bio-weapon, originated in the Wuhan-based lab of Dr. Peng Zhou, China's preeminent researcher of bat immune systems, specifically in how their immune systems adapt to the presence of viruses like coronavirus and other destructive viruses. Somehow, the virus escaped from the lab, and the Hunan fish market where the virus supposedly originated is merely a ruse.

Now, a respected epidemiologist who recently caught flack for claiming in a twitter threat that the virus appeared to be much more contagious than initially believed is pointing out irregularities in the virus's genome that suggests it might have been genetically engineered for the purposes of a weapon, and not just any weapon but the deadliest one of all.

In "Uncanny similarity of unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV spike protein to HIV-1 gp120 and Gag", Indian researchers are baffled by segments of the virus's RNA that have no relation to other coronaviruses like SARS, and instead appear to be closer to HIV. The virus even responds to treatment by HIV medications.

But the 'smoking gun' in this case are pieces of the virus's genetic code that Indian researchers, led by Prashant Pradhan at the Indian Institute of Technology, found may have been 'embedded' from HIV, which belongs to an entirely different family of viruses.

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To be sure, Dr. Feigl-Ding insists that he's not trying to promote any 'conspiracies' about the virus being a bioweapon developed by the Chinese, although it is difficult to find a proper name for what appears to be an artificial, weaponized virus.
Please,

Stop getting your "news" from conspiracy sites.

SARS and MARS were also variants of "corona" virus, just under different names.
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Please,

Stop getting your "news" from conspiracy sites.

Jag will be down to under 2 posts a day.
Just because the Chicoms are reportedly experimenting with HIV antivirus drugs on this virus, doesn't prove the hypothesis of a weaponized, man made version. HIV drugs had already been tried on the SARS virus, also a Coronavirus, so this wasn't a big leap..

These viruses mutate well enough without man's help.

So, think I'll wait for more "smoking gun" evidence.

DF
Would anyone put it past the Chinese to develop a bio weapon like this? I’m sure we’re doing the same thing but our safety protocols have prevented an outbreak.....except maybe for Lyme Disease lol
Wait, I'll just put on my tin foil hat and I'll be protected.
Maybe from the friends down the street at the Wuhan Institute of Virology??

http://english.whiov.cas.cn/
Originally Posted by AKwolverine
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Please,

Stop getting your "news" from conspiracy sites.

Jag will be down to under 2 posts a day.


win win
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.30.927871v1.full.pdf
Originally Posted by AKwolverine
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Please,

Stop getting your "news" from conspiracy sites.

Jag will be down to under 2 posts a day.

You say that like it is a bad thing!
Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Originally Posted by AKwolverine
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Please,

Stop getting your "news" from conspiracy sites.

Jag will be down to under 2 posts a day.

You say that like it is a bad thing!

shocked

Geno
Originally Posted by cooper57m
Wait, I'll just put on my tin foil hat and I'll be protected.


Uh, dude,

this has risen to the level of a full Faraday cage..........minimum..............

And get yourself down to the Dollar General and get the large bottles of hand sanitizer.............enough to bath in.

Geno

PS, have you ever been around a "gay"? If so, you may have developed a mild immunity....... a better one if you were ever in an elevator with a gay (even unknowingly) a stronger one if you have touched a gay, even inadvertently. Those gays give off some of the Aids just in the course of daily life................you ain't even gotta be gay to get a dose of it.

PPS. be very aware if you've been around a black person............they gots the Ebola and the sickle cell. Faraday cage or not, you could be in trouble.
Zero hedge has zero credibility
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by cooper57m
Wait, I'll just put on my tin foil hat and I'll be protected.


Uh, dude,

this has risen to the level of a full Faraday cage..........minimum..............

And get yourself down to the Dollar General and get the large bottles of hand sanitizer.............enough to bath in.

Geno

PS, have you ever been around a "gay"? If so, you may have developed a mild immunity....... a better one if you were ever in an elevator with a gay (even unknowingly) a stronger one if you have touched a gay, even inadvertently. Those gays give off some of the Aids just in the course of daily life................you ain't even gotta be gay to get a dose of it.

PPS. be very aware if you've been around a black person............they gots the Ebola and the sickle cell. Faraday cage or not, you could be in trouble.



You crack me up, Geno.
We hear about the deaths but what's the prognosis for those who survive it? How long are they sick? Are there long term affects? Is it any worse than a bad flu?
Coronavirus Extra has 149 calories, while Coronavirus Light has only 99 calories with the same delicious symptoms.(bee2020)
This theory about the corona virus seems to be gaining some traction. I have heard it from several sources. True or not, I don't know.
I saw it on the internet, it must be true. whistle
I did a search for Prashant Pradhan and this thread comes up on the first page of google.

not alot of people are talking about him.
You can't deny that from a government standpoint...

It's cheaper to kill 'em than to feed 'em.
Originally Posted by Steve
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by cooper57m
Wait, I'll just put on my tin foil hat and I'll be protected.


Uh, dude,

this has risen to the level of a full Faraday cage..........minimum..............

And get yourself down to the Dollar General and get the large bottles of hand sanitizer.............enough to bath in.

Geno

PS, have you ever been around a "gay"? If so, you may have developed a mild immunity....... a better one if you were ever in an elevator with a gay (even unknowingly) a stronger one if you have touched a gay, even inadvertently. Those gays give off some of the Aids just in the course of daily life................you ain't even gotta be gay to get a dose of it.

PPS. be very aware if you've been around a black person............they gots the Ebola and the sickle cell. Faraday cage or not, you could be in trouble.



You crack me up, Geno.

All in a day's work Steve.

Someone has to bring some humor to this place...............otherwise it's gloom and doom, the world's gonna end, the commies, the JOOS, the f aye g's are takin' over, the scientists this and that, and now there's the corona virus.

Hope your bees are getting ready for spring.

Geno
Originally Posted by 45_100
This theory about the corona virus seems to be gaining some traction. I have heard it from several sources. True or not, I don't know.

can you list those sources for those of us who don't get out often?

Geno
FWIW

https://theprepared.com/blog/no-the-2019-ncov-genome-doesnt-actually-seem-engineered-from-hiv/
Yep, Squidge, this is interesting also and seems to support that.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1221990534643929089.html
Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Originally Posted by AKwolverine
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Please,

Stop getting your "news" from conspiracy sites.

Jag will be down to under 2 posts a day.

You say that like it is a bad thing!


Your wife make you read them, or you have no self control?
Originally Posted by AKwolverine
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Please,

Stop getting your "news" from conspiracy sites.

Jag will be down to under 2 posts a day.



someone will need to report on Infowars
A harvard professor and head of the chemistry and biochemistry departments was arrested yesterday in boston for working with the chinese govt.at wuhan university. and the DOD. there is also a chinese student that was caught trying to smuggle bio sensative materials to china at logan airport.There is a lot more to this and you need to read the entire article it is on NBC Boston.com. I would put up a link but i don't know how.
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
We hear about the deaths but what's the prognosis for those who survive it? How long are they sick? Are there long term affects? Is it any worse than a bad flu?


The number who have recovered is now more than the number who have died, according to this site:

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

Total Confirmed
12,037
Confirmed Cases by Country/Region

11,871 Mainland China

Total Deaths
259

Total Recovered
284

Still no confirmed deaths outside mainland China.


Harvard professor articles:

Harvard prof being paid by Chinese

Harvard prof free on $1 million cash bond
Total confirmed cases now, 14,499. 304 deaths.
It is spreading rapidly in China. Saw a video on You Tube of a Harvard professor who said this virus was engineered. An Indian doctor (in India) said the same thing. Wuhan is where China does their viral experimentation. About 7 million people there. It is also the city where they make the viral facemasks. Much of their industry is shut down. People are staying home because they have too. This virus is going to hurt the Chinese economy really bad. Our stock market dropped today because of it. Chinese products will start to disappear at places like Wal-mart an Amazon.

Also, this virus may be worse than the Chinese are saying. A medical researcher who has been to China said on You-Tube than if someone gets the flu in China and it say causes their kidneys to fail. The Chinese list the death as kidney failure. In America we would say the flu causing kidney complications. So this virus may be killing more people but the Chinese may be saying pneumonia but not that the virus caused their immune system to break down causing them to get pneumonia and die.

Remember China is communist and their government will lie. I've seen videos sent out by Chinese people who show people in hazmat suits with AK-47's going around the streets. Why? That leads me to believe more in the so called conspiracy theorists. Videos of Chinese. Harvard doctor putting out a video saying the virus was engineered. China may have been trying to engineer a bio-weapon in Wuhan and it got out.

Also, I went out today looking for viral face masks, all stores were sold out. Nearby me is Auburn University with several hundred Chinese students. Auburn has banned travel to and from China for their students and faculty. Why? They do viral research at Auburn.

I want to move further out in the country. We are trying to limit our trips to stores. Both my wife and I are retired. I am on an immunosuppressant for rhumatoid arthritis. I do get a flu shot every year.
Originally Posted by Dixie_Dude
It is spreading rapidly in China. Saw a video on You Tube of a Harvard professor who said this virus was engineered. An Indian doctor (in India) said the same thing. Wuhan is where China does their viral experimentation. About 7 million people there. It is also the city where they make the viral facemasks. Much of their industry is shut down. People are staying home because they have too. This virus is going to hurt the Chinese economy really bad. Our stock market dropped today because of it. Chinese products will start to disappear at places like Wal-mart an Amazon.


Well, there goes next Christmas......no toys.

And all the Dollar Generals will close. No cheap plastic flowers for the graveyard.

Geno
The You-tube video of the Harvard professor is not the same one. This one is a Doctor and he is very concerned. All trade and travel to and from China should be banned. Maybe some American companies will wake up and bring their factories back home. At least to smaller countries.

One of the reason almost all flu viruses originate in China is because they grow chickens and hogs together. Throw some bat droppings in their feed troughs and you get bird flu going to the hogs then to humans and back and fort the virus mutates so a new virus emerges every year. Chicken dropping are half undigested food and the hogs will eat it mixed in with the hog food. Auburn university has experimented with drying the chicken droppings and pouring molasses over it and feeding it to cattle. At least we dehydrate it and between the dehydration and sugar in molasses it kills germs and viruses. China could care less as they have 1.4 billion people to feed. A few thousand people who die a year doesn't concern the Chinese communist government. Even the UN has asked China to try to change their agricultural practices to cut down on the flu.
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Please,

Stop getting your "news" from conspiracy sites.


Umm...ZeroHedge is a financial news website. You knew this, right?? I guess not.....
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/creator-bioweapons-act-says-coronavirus-biological-warfare-weapon

Creator Of US BioWeapons Act Says Coronavirus Is Biological Warfare Weapon

In an explosive interview Dr. Francis Boyle, who drafted the Biological Weapons Act has given a detailed statement admitting that the 2019 Wuhan Coronavirus is an offensive Biological Warfare Weapon and that the World Health Organization (WHO) already knows about it.

Francis Boyle is a professor of international law at the University of Illinois College of Law. He drafted the U.S. domestic implementing legislation for the Biological Weapons Convention, known as the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, that was approved unanimously by both Houses of the U.S. Congress and signed into law by President George H.W. Bush.

In an exclusive interview given to Geopolitics and Empire, Dr. Boyle discusses the coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan, China and the Biosafety Level 4 laboratory (BSL-4) from which he believes the infectious disease escaped. He believes the virus is potentially lethal and an offensive biological warfare weapon or dual-use biowarfare weapons agent genetically modified with gain of function properties, which is why the Chinese government originally tried to cover it up and is now taking drastic measures to contain it.

The Wuhan BSL-4 lab is also a specially designated World Health Organization (WHO) research lab and Dr. Boyle contends that the WHO knows full well what is occurring.
Was there ever any question concerning bio-weapon? Not in my mind.
That was my thought from the very first minute. Military weapon release. Especially w all the goings on in Hong Kong.
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/02/is_the_coronavirus_outbreak_chinas_chernobyl.html

Is the Coronavirus Outbreak China's Chernobyl?
By Dexter Wright

To refresh our memories, it was in 1986 when the No. 4 nuclear reactor in the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant exploded and was burning as the solid fuel rods of Uranium melted down. The smoke and steam from the fire and firefighting spread across Northern Europe and the Russian steppes. The number of deaths attributed to this disaster could be as high as 100,000 but accepted estimates are closer to 27,000.

It was the failure of the Soviet system in dealing with a coordinated response that shook the faith of the people. They began to question whether the Soviet government had abandoned the interests of the people in favor of propaganda. The conclusion was that it certainly was not the health and welfare of the people which was first and foremost in Soviet governmental policy. Gorbachev himself wrote in 2006:

“The nuclear meltdown at Chernobyl… was perhaps the true cause of the collapse of the Soviet Union.”
It is clear that Gorbachev could not bring himself to admit that it was Ronald Reagan’s foreign policy which was the underlying cause. Regardless of the causes of the collapse, it seems history is about to repeat itself.

The outbreak in People’s Republic of China (PRC) has led to a declaration of a global public health emergency by the World Health Organization (WHO). In the 2019 WHO report of the ten most likely threats to global health, an influenza pandemic was in the top three. In light if recent events, it seems that it should have been listed as the number one threat.

Just as with the Chernobyl cover-up, there are indications that the outbreak of the corona virus is much more severe than has been admitted by the communist government. There are reports that the PRC is digging mass graves and burning bodies to deal with the death toll. If true, then the actual death toll is well above the 170 officially stated by President Xi Jinping’s government. Unlike the trade war or the Hong Kong protest, Xi cannot blame this outbreak on foreign powers. This was also the case with the Chernobyl meltdown

The questions about the official statements concerning the epicenter of the outbreak being a wild game market are being raised. Senator Tom Cotton (R-AR) issued this statement:

"I would note that Wuhan has China's only biosafety level-four super laboratory that works with the world's most deadly pathogens to include, yes, coronavirus,"
Some scientists now speculate that the government of the PRC was using this lab to devise a biowarfare pathogen. The process would include developing a vaccine, then testing the vaccine. The test subjects would likely be human. China, with the assistance of other communist countries, has a history of experimentation on human subjects, e.g. Korean War POWs.

The possible scenario for the current outbreak is that the test vaccine was ineffective and the human test subjects were not effectively quarantined. There is an historical parallel concerning the Spanish Flu outbreak. It has been alleged that the Spanish Flu of 1918 was the result of contaminated Yellow Fever vaccines. If a bioweapon development proves to be the cause, then it is likely that this pathogen will not be contained effectively, at least not in China. The measures that the PRC has taken so far seem too little too late. Leaked video of doctors having meltdowns as the hospitals are overwhelmed seem to confirm that the situation is out of control.

As with the Spanish flu one hundred years ago, this pathogen will likely decimate the People.s Liberation Army, since they are quartered in barracks which are not very modern. The tight quarters and common eating areas (it would be too kind to call them mess halls) are an ideal environment for spreading the virus. Looking back at the 1918 Spanish Flu, the army on both sides of the trenches were devastated by the flu. In the U.S. Army alone, 46,992 soldiers died of the flu. This was roughly 6,000 fewer than the 53,000-plus soldiers who were killed in combat or died of their wounds.

A severely weakened Chinese Army will provide an opportunity for both Hong Kong and Taiwan to sign a joint sovereignty declaration or some other instrument pledging mutual assistance and cooperation. The recent election in Taiwan suggests there is no appetite to align with mainland China in any way. And the protests in Hong Kong evidently suggest the same sentiment. There may be other provinces that harbor simmering resentment toward the current status quo. This is hard to gauge since there is overwhelming censorship (thanks to Google et al.) in mainland China.

The scenario above is far from certain, but neither is it impossible. The question then must be asked, how will the PRC cope with this crisis? And we must also ask, how will America respond to a fracturing China?
It was released by their government!
Probably an accidental release though, if it was a bio-weapon. It will certainly destabilize their economy for awhile.
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