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Is there any point in calling a repairman or just buy a new one?

Ours works but a couple weeks back it was not cold, so I unplugged it over night and cleaned every thing, it seemed to work, but its starting to not freeze stuff again, anyone work on these things or is it just throwing money away? its 10 - 15 years old Whirlpool .
Call them, get a half assed estimate, check prices on a new one, make a decision.

Did you clean condenser of lint underneath??
I would find out what the problem is. At that age I would think you have a defrost timer problem. I would pop the cover off the motor and see if it is turning. You can diagnose the charge by total current at load and look at the different lines from the compressor. Not likely to go bad after running well for a long time.
New, durable goods are no longer durable.
I would rather have a repairman come out and pay to have it fixed then to spend 3-4000 for a new WiFi, bluetooth, LCD and whatever else is installed that’s going to take a computer geek to fix when all them fancy electronic controls an d gizmos go out.
How old is it?
Get a diagnosis and estimate. If it isn't a cheap easy fix, at 10-15 years old I'd rather put money towards a new product with warranty.
Originally Posted by jimy
Is there any point in calling a repairman or just buy a new one?

Ours works but a couple weeks back it was cold, so I unplugged it over night and cleaned every thing, it seemed to work, but its starting to not freeze stuff again, anyone work on these things or is it just throwing money away? its 10 - 15 years old Whirlpool .


I am 70 years old, my grandmothers refrigerator is still running on the porch. It has to be at least 50 years old.
Repairman gonna break it off in yo ass.

Just get a new one.
Originally Posted by sawbuck
New, durable goods are no longer durable.


Nor repairable.
What type are we about?

The basic up/down trailer park job, turkey shît green?


Or do have one with a tv and ice cream thru the door?
Originally Posted by slumlord
What type are we about?

The basic up/down trailer park job, turkey shît green?


Or do have one with a tv and ice cream thru the door?



Let us not forget the making of foul-tasting white ice cubes.
If it's in the switching, repair. Mechanics or electronics, buy new. A waste of money and time to go into the guts and electronics out date the day it left the store.
why put money in an old unit...your just prolonging the inevitable .....appliances these days are junk and 15 years on one is about all there good for
buy a new on and if you pay 1000.00 or more for it buy the extended warr.
The more analog it is, the more likely I’d be to consider repairing it. Did just that to a circa 1992 built-in that required a complete rebuild including a new compressor. Cost me a couple grand but my guy assured me it should run for another 25 years due to it being analog.

The more electronics it has, the more I’d consider replacing. Motherboards especially are notorious for going out in 3-6 years, thereafter priced steep and often with no more new ones available for your specific model.

Appliances ain’t what they used to be.
I have a SubZero built in the cabinets. I get it fixed which isn't too often.
This
Originally Posted by RickBin
The more analog it is, the more likely I’d be to consider repairing it. Did just that to a circa 1992 built-in that required a complete rebuild including a new compressor. Cost me a couple grand but my guy assured me it should run for another 25 years due to it being analog.

The more electronics it has, the more I’d consider replacing. Motherboards especially are notorious for going out in 3-6 years, thereafter priced steep and often with no more new ones available for your specific model.

Appliances ain’t what they used to be.


Parents just had their Uber Top of the Line 1991 GE fixed for about $700. Supposedly though Mom wants a new one anyway. Told them I have my hand truck ready whenever they do.
Originally Posted by jimy
Is there any point in calling a repairman or just buy a new one?

Ours works but a couple weeks back it was cold, so I unplugged it over night and cleaned every thing, it seemed to work, but its starting to not freeze stuff again, anyone work on these things or is it just throwing money away? its 10 - 15 years old Whirlpool .



The thing folks leave out in this decision is the deterioration of seals and other stuff like that. We just ditched a 12 yr old wishdasher that suddenly sprung a leak. Everything else was still running fine, but when you figure all those plastic seals are starting to age. . . the decision was simple.

Also, this is not a complaint. I'm perfectly happy with the service I got out of the wishdasher. It was far more efficient than the one we had in there previously. It more than paid for itself. Ditto for the fridge we tossed about 3 years ago. It had gone 15 years without a hitch, but I wasn't going to moan about things stopped doing its job.


So it was working fine up until you decided it needed something done to it. wink
Originally Posted by slumlord
What type are we about?

The basic up/down trailer park job, turkey shît green?


Or do have one with a tv and ice cream thru the door?


Its closer to double wide standard, kind of cat sh~t brown and makes enough ice to chill my whisky, the tv is in the bed room.
I guess that's my delima, there is just two of us, and we sure as hell don't need a Mcmansion style, boil your hotdogs for you kind of refrigerator. The simple ice maker is nice but I can fill the trays if need be.
"Frost free" fridges/freezers have two chronic problems- - - -failure of the fan that circulates the air through the box, and problems with the defrost timer and/or heater. Another problem is strictly mechanical- - - -the drain that routes the water from the defrost cycle to a pan under the unit clogs, and the freezer makes a solid block of ice. I just cleared a clogged drain on my 5 year old Whirlpool with the freezer on the bottom, and it appears to be working right now. It was forming an inch-thick block of ice at the bottom of the freezer and eventually keeping the freezer drawer from sealing.

Defrost timer and/or heater repair usually involves taking most, if not all of the interior panels out, so it's not a quick fix. Circulating fans are cheap, and usually easy to change. If you get into refrigerant recharging, changing a compressor, or refrigerant leaks from corrosion, scrap it!
Jerry
Buy new fudge, Refurbish old fridge into a smoker.
Go get a free one on Craigslist, they're out there.
Clean the sucker up and out and when you put stuff back in be mindful not to block vents. See if that fixes it.

Since yours sounds like a simple analog top-freezer deal, diagnosing and fixing it might be a good idea. If you hire a repairman, "Repairman gonna break it off in yo ass."

The simple top-freezer analog models last the longest. The ones that go into apartments & whatnot. Also, they are a lot cheaper. Dad used to work for a fridge builder, we got all top of the line side by sides every few years. Just not worth it. And the top-freezer deals are more space efficient such that a 18cuft top-freezer deal has as much space as a 22cuft side by side.

And I'll be danged if I ever buy a fridge with a screen. Eff that noise.
I fix mine myself. It’s usually the compressor. Clean your condenser yearly. That is usually the cause of compressor failure.
I had a side by side once, where the little ‘transfer fan’ in the top of the unit wasn’t pushing cold air over to the fridge side.

$50 diy repair
Originally Posted by jimy
Is there any point in calling a repairman or just buy a new one?

Ours works but a couple weeks back it was not cold, so I unplugged it over night and cleaned every thing, it seemed to work, but its starting to not freeze stuff again, anyone work on these things or is it just throwing money away? its 10 - 15 years old Whirlpool .
Just went threw this last week.Wife and I bought all new GE appliances 2.5 years ago fridge took a chit last week.GE states sorry no service man in your area.Called other shops they state we won't work on GE they were bought out by china about 3 years ago can,t get parts.Tore the POS apart cleaned everything no help.Ended up buying a new whirlpool.IMHO they are all JUNK now with a 1 year warranty.
I had a GE SxS that I repaired twice. About a 2007 model. The third time it went down I just replaced it.

Each time it was the defrost heater. Easy job, but obviously schit equipment. Three times in a couple years was enough for me.
I just worked on 3 I had here at the house, the compressors were not running on all three.

I started with a switch that plugs right into the compressor, It's a Start Relay & Capacitor.
Wiring just plugs into it, all three frig's I had used the same one.

Cost less that 10 bucks and they are really universal, one size fits all damn near. I bought 2 on Amazon.
Figured on a gamble it'd be worth it.
It was this part right here

Well that got the Whirlpool frig running but not the other two.

Next was a Frigidaire, It just wasn't getting a start signal. If it had been I'd have heard the new relay click, so I dug a little future and came up with a control board that was under the frig. I got it pulled out, again just plugs and a couple screws and I had it in my hand.

It was shorted, big black burnt spot right in the middle of the board.
Ran the numbers on it through Google and found it on Amazon as well.
It was around a hundred a bucks on Amazon but I found one on EBay for 33 bucks so I ordered it.

These parts orders come in fast, a couple days wait and they are in the mailbox.

[Linked Image from i.ebayimg.com]

Buy for 32.99 on EBay at this link.

That did it, The Frigidaire was running like a top!

The third frig seemed to have a compressor issue.
It appears to have run low on coolant and possibly burned up the motor that is sealed inside the compressor tank, it just hums when the start relay snaps closed.

It'd cost me better than a hundred to get a new compressor and then I'd have to have someone charge it with coolant so I quit there.

2 outta 3 ain't bad for $50 bucks and a couple hours of my inexperience time....I did have to view a handful of YouTube videos....

All three frig's are under 5 years old and of similar size. Just didn't want to toss them and buy new, I have a couple houses going on the market and wanted working appliances is them.

The world seems geared to getting us to toss things out and buy new, a good frig not long ago was under a grand, today it's doubled or more....
There are some online troubleshooting resources. I would look through what they say. A lot of the stuff is pretty easy to do with you tube videos available to show you how. We have a 15 year old Jenn air ( I think its a whirlpool or something) and I have done two repairs on it. Both took around 30 minutes and $50-75 in parts. And I think I threw parts at the problem, the trouble shooting guide said it could be three things so I bought all three parts and replaced them. If I had called a repair guy I would have been into it for half the price of a new fridge.


Same deal with our dryer, when it died an internet search showed me what was wrong and there was a you tube video to show me how to fix it. In the end it was faster and easier than waiting for a delivery guys 4 hour window to deliver a new unit. A bunch cheaper too.
Boxes with plastic inner panels make lousy smokers- - - - -the plastic melts and stinks. I'm building a smoker from steel plate and motorcycle chains and sprockets that will handle 5 pork butts at a time. My daughter runs a sandwich shop and they sell a LOT of pulled pork.
Jerry
Originally Posted by jimy
I guess that's my delima, there is just two of us, and we sure as hell don't need a Mcmansion style, boil your hotdogs for you kind of refrigerator. The simple ice maker is nice but I can fill the trays if need be.

I got a secondary fridge for cold drinks and overflow holiday cooking.

Upright full size, freezer on top, nice and black. Not avocado green. Lol

Got it at Lowe’s for about $480, 2 years ago.









Originally Posted by slumlord
Originally Posted by jimy
I guess that's my delima, there is just two of us, and we sure as hell don't need a Mcmansion style, boil your hotdogs for you kind of refrigerator. The simple ice maker is nice but I can fill the trays if need be.

I got a secondary fridge for cold drinks and overflow holiday cooking.

Upright full size, freezer on top, nice and black. Not avocado green. Lol

Got it at Lowe’s for about $480, 2 years ago.


Doesn't your utility company send out death squads to track down and kill people who have extra 'fridges and freezers?
Usually the problems I've had are the opposite, frost-free systems icing up. That has been spider nests up the damned drip tube both times and the solution has been to defrost, then hook up the air compressor to the outside end of the drip tube and blow the "barnacles" on through into the freezer, wipe them up, turn the power back on, and good for another 5-7 years.

If they are not cooling, it could be dust or something blocking air flow so the heat isn't carried away by the fan, otherwise it's probably a low coolant problem and .. well, if it is 10-15 years old, I'd replace it. check for "incentives" offered by your power company, etc ... could be they'll have programs that will lower the purchase price enough that the energy savings over the long haul will pay the cost of the new fridge.
Half a beef takes up most of a big upright freezer, with a little room to spare for ice cream, etc. A wireless electronic temp monitor with a loud alarm helps avoid disasters in case of a malfunction. Don't even have to open the door to check on the temp!
Jerry
Originally Posted by 5sdad
Originally Posted by slumlord
Originally Posted by jimy
I guess that's my delima, there is just two of us, and we sure as hell don't need a Mcmansion style, boil your hotdogs for you kind of refrigerator. The simple ice maker is nice but I can fill the trays if need be.

I got a secondary fridge for cold drinks and overflow holiday cooking.

Upright full size, freezer on top, nice and black. Not avocado green. Lol

Got it at Lowe’s for about $480, 2 years ago.


Doesn't your utility company send out death squads to track down and kill people who have extra 'fridges and freezers?


We have TVA

btw, I have 3 fridges counting the one in my sunroom
And 4 freezers. (2 chests and 2 uprights)

Much different around here.
And don't get me started on the new digital Whirlpool front-loading washers and associated dryers.

I had a simple whirlpool top loader for nigh on 20 years. Two repairs kept it running until the tranny blew and I figured the body was rusting too much.

I have been through three dryers and two washers of the new front-load sort. Some of the old things can be fixed, and did so. But getting into the computer-controller bits is a nightmare and replacements are stupid expensive. Nowadays I buy used from guys who haul off the old one for parts if it is a computer issue. Got a Samsung front-load washer for $75 and whirlpool dryers for $200. Probably some parts from my old appliance in them.
Originally Posted by Hotrod_Lincoln
Boxes with plastic inner panels make lousy smokers- - - - -the plastic melts and stinks. I'm building a smoker from steel plate and motorcycle chains and sprockets that will handle 5 pork butts at a time. My daughter runs a sandwich shop and they sell a LOT of pulled pork.
Jerry


If you have an old refrigerator that still cools but you just wanted to up grade, they work good for a cool smoker. I agree Im not crazy about hot smoking in plastic. That's "Big C Country" right there. But you can smoke sausage in them with cool smoke. Just put a small bucket in the bottom with a hot pad under it and use one of those electric charcoal lighters with wet chips in the bucket to generate smoke. Keep the fridge running to keep it cool and check it often to make sure it doesn't start a full blown fire. All you want is cool smoke. Works great if you want to smoke some sausage in warm weather. You don't want it hot for that. Just leave it for a couple days and it will smoke good and the meat won't spoil.
Originally Posted by Borchardt
Originally Posted by jimy
Is there any point in calling a repairman or just buy a new one?

Ours works but a couple weeks back it was cold, so I unplugged it over night and cleaned every thing, it seemed to work, but its starting to not freeze stuff again, anyone work on these things or is it just throwing money away? its 10 - 15 years old Whirlpool .


I am 70 years old, my grandmothers refrigerator is still running on the porch. It has to be at least 50 years old.


My mom is 92 and still uses the chest freezer she had when I was a kid. It’s 55 plus years old.
And I’ve had two refrigerator/freezers go out the past five years. One five years ago was in basement and it was out days before we knew it, rotting meat really stinks. The other three months ago was fine at supper time. The next morning, the food in the freezer was hot, not sure how that happened.
I’d lean toward replacing if it’s more than 8-10 years old.
Get on amazon, get some $10 freezer alarms.

Stupidity is painful
Originally Posted by jimy
Is there any point in calling a repairman or just buy a new one?

Ours works but a couple weeks back it was not cold, so I unplugged it over night and cleaned every thing, it seemed to work, but its starting to not freeze stuff again, anyone work on these things or is it just throwing money away? its 10 - 15 years old Whirlpool .

Just went through the same thing. We paid to repair and it still wasn’t proper. I’d buy new and put the repair money towards new.
Modern appliances are garbage. If you got 15 years you're ahead of the game. My average on appliances has been about 8 years.
Get the fewest possible bells and whistles on the replacement. I don't even go for an ice-maker anymore. An ice maker is probably the number one refrigerator repair item.
I go to Lowes and get a scratch n dent
I buy the most extended warranty they offer, have them fixed under warranty till it runs out, then when they break after warranty expires, I buy a new one.
I have fixed ours 4 times. I've replaced defrost timers, thermostats, etc. It isn't that hard. If the coils get a leak, or the compressor dies, there's no fixing them for a homeowner, but "bolt on" stuff is available on the internet. I have nursed ours since 1999 and it's still going. I do believe I will think about getting another one soon because the drawers, shelves and door seals are getting rough around the edges.


I have a Coldspot in the basement that came with the house, and it has been running since the early 1970s and has never been touched. They made them to last back then.
Avoid Samsung
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Avoid Samsung


Agreed.
We have a 5 year old Samsung refrigerator.

It is a blessing and a curse.

A curse, because it is a giant piece of chit and had broke 3 times. I will never buy another Samsung. Literally, no one in Colorado will even roll a truck to look at it. When I call with a problem, they laugh at me, but with a sad pity. But no one would let me PAY THEM to look at it.

It's been a blessing, because I have learned that refrigerators are pretty simply devices, and I can download every last schematic and repair manual for free, buy parts on-line, troubleshoot with the help of helpful folks on-line, and fix the POS myself.

I am limping this POS along, having spent a few hours troubleshooting and $300 in parts, with food in ice chests more than once.

So for now, this $2000 POS is still not in my kitchen and not in a landfill.... And that beats $5,000 for the next POS my wife wants to buy.

But I 100% get the guy who pays someone to haul off a POS unit to bring in the next one because it is the path of least resistance...
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Avoid Samsung


times INFINITY. No one in Colorado will even LOOK at one, they laugh.
I like the little mini-fridges that cost around a C-note when they go on sale. They're just the right size to put a tap in the door and keep a pony keg cold.
Jerry
Originally Posted by Swifty52
I would rather have a repairman come out and pay to have it fixed then to spend 3-4000 for a new WiFi, bluetooth, LCD and whatever else is installed that’s going to take a computer geek to fix when all them fancy electronic controls an d gizmos go out.

But that is the thing, you do not have to pay $3-4K for a decent fridge. We just put in a new GE 23 cu ft for about $850.

I would have purchased a 27 cu ft for less $, but the Missus did not like the way it pushed out past the counter depth. PSHAW!


Our last fridge is still running well in the old house after fifteen years. The door says Maytag. The serial # says GE, Ha. I paid $150 extra for it to get the one WITHOUT ice and water in the door. It has an ice maker in the freezer and there's water flowing from the kitchen tap.
We had a Samsung front load washer and dryer set. The washer quit draining The water. I removed the pump and verified it worked fine. The circuit board was broken and decided not to spend the money on replacing it due to its age and cost of repair. I was going to give the washer to any local repair shop so they could have the remaining good parts . No one would even work on Samsung thus no need for the free spare parts. It went to the dump.
Replace,don't bother with repair. If it's less than 10 years old, it's not worth fixing because something else will go bad on it soon. If it's older than that you may not be able to get parts. Labor is expensive. If the wife can live with it get a scratch and dent deal.
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