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Sen. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska joined with a bipartisan group of senators to pass a resolution that limits President Trump’s ability to launch military operations.

The War Powers Resolution passed 51-45, and came after debate over the president’s reasons for a drone strike that killed Iran’s top terrorist, Qasem Soleimani, in January.
Democratic Sen. Tim Kaine sponsored the bill. He was joined by all Democrats along with Republicans Murkowski, Susan Collins, Jerry Moran, Rand Paul, Mike Lee, Todd Young, Lamar Alexander, and Bill Cassidy.

The Democrat-controlled House has already passed a similar resolution.

However, the measure lacks the 67-vote threshold needed to override a presidential veto.

The resolution reiterates that Congress hasn’t declared war against Iran and would require Trump to remove US troops from any “hostilities” with Iran within 30 days, unless he has approval of Congress.

Trump had already signaled his intent to veto it: “If my hands were tied, Iran would have a field day,” Trump wrote on Twitter. “The Democrats are only doing this as an attempt to embarrass the Republican Party. Don’t let it happen!”

“It is very important for our Country’s SECURITY that the United States Senate not vote for the Iran War Powers Resolution. We are doing very well with Iran and this is not the time to show weakness. Americans overwhelmingly support our attack on terrorist Soleimani…” he wrote.

Murkowski was asked by reporters on Wednesday if it appeared the president had learned any lessons since being impeached.
“Well, there haven’t been very strong indicators this week that he has,” Murkowski said.

https://mustreadalaska.com/murkowski-votes-for-war-powers-resolution
Those people are so stupid.
Little more than window dressing. Trump will have his way.
When he has to make a decision "right now" they want him to wait on them.
thought we learned a lesson from Vietnam.
Originally Posted by Hectortwsp
thought we learned a lesson from Vietnam.



We didn’t have then, Stealth Fighters, Tomahawk missles, MOABs, Smart bombs, Patriot muzzles, Satellite Observance systems, etc. during Vietnam, in other words high tech weaponry like we do now requiring less or no boots on the ground.

Any way we cut it we will be in the Mideast, like it or not. Trump needs a free hand on specific activities.
Originally Posted by Hectortwsp
thought we learned a lesson from Vietnam.




makes as much sense then as it does now. A pacifist America is a dead America.
No matter, Trump can, and will, veto this.
from the same dickheads who brought us gun-free zones
Posted By: KC Re: We are not the worlds policemen - 02/13/20

Remember these names.

Republicans Murkowski, Susan Collins, Jerry Moran, Rand Paul, Mike Lee, Todd Young, Lamar Alexander, Bill Cassidy . . . and . . . Romney.
Originally Posted by KC

Remember these names.

Republicans Murkowski, Susan Collins, Jerry Moran, Rand Paul, Mike Lee, Todd Young, Lamar Alexander, Bill Cassidy . . . and . . . Romney.







Half the member of this board feel the same way. of course they are very quiet right now. grin
No way any President will let that slide through. A pox on the damn RINOs,
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A pox on the damn RINOs,



Poor Rand Paul. There goes his ribs again grin
Odd. You'd think it would be conservatives supporting a reassertion of Congressional power over involvement of the nation in war. It's in conformity with the Constitution, after all, and for good reason. We're not supposed to have kings who can decide on their own, against the people's wishes, to plunge the nation into war.
There's stupid now grin


A short list of undeclared wars


First Barbary War (1805)
Algerian War (1815)
First Sumatran Expedition (1832)
Cayuse War (1847)
First Fiji Expedition (1855)
Second Opium War (1856)
Paraguay Expedition (1859)
Formosa Expedition (1867)
Korean Expedition (1871)
Second Samoan Civil War (1898)
Moro Rebellion (1899)
Boxer Rebellion (1900)
Nicaraguan Campaign (1912)
Mexican Revolution (1914)
Occupation of Haiti (1915)
Occupation of Dominican Republic (1916)
Cold War-- Includes wars with USSR, Grenada, Dominican Republic, Congo, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, Cuba, Indochina, Czechoslovakia, and Korea. (1947)
Puerto Rican Nationalist Revolts (1950)
First Gulf of Sidra Incident (1981)
Lebanese Civil War (1982)
Bombing of Libya (1986)
Iran-Iraq War (1987)
Invasion of Panama (1989)
First Gulf War (1990)
Somali Civil War (1992)
Bosnian War (1993)
Operation Uphold Democracy--Haiti (1994)
Bombings of Afghanistan and Sudan (1998)
Kosovo War (1999)
War on Terror-- Wars with Iraq, Afghanistan, the Philippines, Somalia, Pakistan, and Yemen. (2001)
Second Liberian War (2003)
Lord's Resistance Army Insurgency--Sudan (2011)
Libyan Civil War (2011)
Last time US declared was was in WW2 against Romania and Hungary (axis nations). The US has declared war 11 times.
So really congress has not allowed any conflicts since 1945? The US has been at war since WW2 continuously.
Clandestine or open warfare has occurred under all the presidents.

http://outsidethewire.armytimes.com...-s-declared-war-see-all-11-declarations/
Watch4beer: Yeah.... unfortunately we are!
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy
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unfortunately we are!



Want to surrender? How about negotiate? grin
Originally Posted by watch4bear
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unfortunately we are!



Want to surrender? How about negotiate? grin


grin ...Four times in just this thread.... Don't you think it's about time to give that sheit up? Jesus I'm tired of seeing it from you as I'm sure most are. Besides you sound and look like an idiot using it all the time (not that you need any help)...
Do you have a point, or are you just from Pennsylvania? grin


Are we the worlds policemen or not?
Originally Posted by watch4bear
Do you have a point, or are you just from Pennsylvania? grin


Are we the worlds policemen or not?


Of course I have a point but obviously you're too stupid to get it.

Carry on
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Little more than window dressing. Trump will have his way.

👍
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Of course I have a point



Is it on top of your head?
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Odd. You'd think it would be conservatives supporting a reassertion of Congressional power over involvement of the nation in war. It's in conformity with the Constitution, after all, and for good reason. We're not supposed to have kings who can decide on their own, against the people's wishes, to plunge the nation into war.


Hawk, between the democrats in the House and the rinos in the Senate, I’ll take Trump’s judgement of what, how and when something needs to be done rather than passing it through the present Congressional structure for their leaks and approval.

Buttt,,,that’s just one Coonass’ assessment on the matter.
Originally Posted by KC

Remember these names.

Republicans Murkowski, Susan Collins, Jerry Moran, Rand Paul, Mike Lee, Todd Young, Lamar Alexander, Bill Cassidy . . . and . . . Romney.







The Usual Suspects.
Liiisa,

You go, girl!
Originally Posted by watch4bear
There's stupid now grin


A short list of undeclared wars


First Barbary War (1805)
Algerian War (1815)
First Sumatran Expedition (1832)
Cayuse War (1847)
First Fiji Expedition (1855)
Second Opium War (1856)
Paraguay Expedition (1859)
Formosa Expedition (1867)
Korean Expedition (1871)
Second Samoan Civil War (1898)
Moro Rebellion (1899)
Boxer Rebellion (1900)
Nicaraguan Campaign (1912)
Mexican Revolution (1914)
Occupation of Haiti (1915)
Occupation of Dominican Republic (1916)
Cold War-- Includes wars with USSR, Grenada, Dominican Republic, Congo, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, Cuba, Indochina, Czechoslovakia, and Korea. (1947)
Puerto Rican Nationalist Revolts (1950)
First Gulf of Sidra Incident (1981)
Lebanese Civil War (1982)
Bombing of Libya (1986)
Iran-Iraq War (1987)
Invasion of Panama (1989)
First Gulf War (1990)
Somali Civil War (1992)
Bosnian War (1993)
Operation Uphold Democracy--Haiti (1994)
Bombings of Afghanistan and Sudan (1998)
Kosovo War (1999)
War on Terror-- Wars with Iraq, Afghanistan, the Philippines, Somalia, Pakistan, and Yemen. (2001)
Second Liberian War (2003)
Lord's Resistance Army Insurgency--Sudan (2011)
Libyan Civil War (2011)

And what did THIS country gain from that list? Over 20 trillion in debt? Also I don't know, but is a resolution binding as law?
Originally Posted by Hectortwsp
thought we learned a lesson from Vietnam.




Well, come on mothers throughout the land,
Pack your boys off to Vietnam.
Come on fathers, don't hesitate,
Send 'em off before it's too late.
Be the first one on your block
To have your boy come home in a box.

JTman,

Rather hear from bear than you.
Originally Posted by cisco1

JTman,

Rather hear from WatchforCOCK than you.


I don't recall asking you...

GFY grin

You don't have to ask. This is an open forum .

DUMB S H I T !!!
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by watch4bear
There's stupid now grin


A short list of undeclared wars


First Barbary War (1805)
Algerian War (1815)
First Sumatran Expedition (1832)
Cayuse War (1847)
First Fiji Expedition (1855)
Second Opium War (1856)
Paraguay Expedition (1859)
Formosa Expedition (1867)
Korean Expedition (1871)
Second Samoan Civil War (1898)
Moro Rebellion (1899)
Boxer Rebellion (1900)
Nicaraguan Campaign (1912)
Mexican Revolution (1914)
Occupation of Haiti (1915)
Occupation of Dominican Republic (1916)
Cold War-- Includes wars with USSR, Grenada, Dominican Republic, Congo, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, Cuba, Indochina, Czechoslovakia, and Korea. (1947)
Puerto Rican Nationalist Revolts (1950)
First Gulf of Sidra Incident (1981)
Lebanese Civil War (1982)
Bombing of Libya (1986)
Iran-Iraq War (1987)
Invasion of Panama (1989)
First Gulf War (1990)
Somali Civil War (1992)
Bosnian War (1993)
Operation Uphold Democracy--Haiti (1994)
Bombings of Afghanistan and Sudan (1998)
Kosovo War (1999)
War on Terror-- Wars with Iraq, Afghanistan, the Philippines, Somalia, Pakistan, and Yemen. (2001)
Second Liberian War (2003)
Lord's Resistance Army Insurgency--Sudan (2011)
Libyan Civil War (2011)

And what did THIS country gain from that list? Over 20 trillion in debt? Also I don't know, but is a resolution binding as law?


Our tillions in debt is equal to what we've paid on a declared war, "The war on Poverty".
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