Not the girl you went out with from Iowa with the motorcycle helmet with pistol grips on the sides-the T.V. show on Hulu? It's about hunting, fishing and cooking what they catch. In this day and age of what amounts to infomercial outdoors show, this is a nice departure. Very little product indorsemenst, and they aren't hunting in a 40 acre pen.They're not afraid to shoot a spike buck, and they have some simple no nonsense recipes for game and fish. If you haven't seen it yet, it's worth a view.

Did you see the show where they threw a coyote on an open fire. Let it burn a while. Then sliced off some coyote and ate it?

Sounds like a lot of the old recipes from the Basque sheepherder days. Pretty much the go for anything with fur or feathers. Char it, peel off the rind, and have at it. Some, however, would go over the top by maybe inserting onions, carrots, or spuds in the body cavity.

I've only watched a few episodes but I'm already a fan of the show. They aren't afraid to own up to their hunting mistakes which I find refreshing.

I've never seen the show.

Apparently you can view some of their episodes on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/user/MeatEaterTV

I'd recommend not trying his recipe for medium rare bear...

The haters will be along shortly to tell y'all you shouldn't be watching Rinella......

My bad-it's on Netflix, not Hulu.

I've watched it. Pretty damn stupid sometimes, like most of that type of show. Of course, some people will do anything for publicity.

What did you find stupid? I watched some of the early episodes but haven't seen any in quite a while.

Yep I like those guys a lot. They’re doing a good job of putting out a winsome argument in favor of our way of life.

Don’t agree with some of their stances on issues but I’m not one who can’t handle hanging out w/ people who see things differently than me so it ain’t no thang.

This is the only hunting show my wife and kids like. I like Randy too...

I'm no longer a fan of TV hunting shows, but Meateater is the only one that I can stand to watch any more. Pretty good when he is introducing new hunters into our sport, like whitetail hunting in Wisconsin with Joe Rogan and comedian Bryan Callen. He actually got those city boys to eat beaver (the rodent variety)!

Concur. Rinella and Newberg are the only shows I care to watch.

LMFAO

I like the show and the podcasts.

Podcasts have some good interviews.

The Bo Jackson interview was a good one.

Both are two faced liars. Believe half of what you see and nothing of which you hear! So is John Lee a guide or not?????? And how many can afford to corner jump like them??????

Yeah he learned that one the hard way! I like Rinella. Got a few of his books. His pals Remi and Callaghan remind me of people I like to hang with. I know, I know, he supports BHA which is a deep cover anti hunting group or some such. They are fighting hunting and fishing by...supporting hunting and fishing. Clever bastards.

What is BHA?

Backcountry Hunters and Anglers.

Corrected that for ya

Good catch. Thanks

can you explain further?

It is all fun and games until you have them getting Democrats elected and you lose your gun rights! I know I know that will never happen! Hmmm you might want to think that over a little better. Keep scratching your heads.

LOL! Yeah, Rinella doesn't seem to smart sometimes. He spent a few days in the hospital after drinking some creek water here in Arizona without boiling it or treating it..Said it looked clean and clear..

Is John lee a guide or is he not? What more do you need there??????

Can you afford and how many others can afford to corner jump as they do?

If all it takes is a sportsman oriented non profit to get dems elected, well someone should tell the dems.

Haven’t seen it.

.....

Not only have they told them, they gave them a full demonstration of it here in Montana.

Don't worry more states to follow!

I enjoy his show and am fine with corner jumping.

Is John Lee a guide? I dunno. Is he supposed to be? Is it a licensing issue?

Here in lays the problem, nobody does their research they just drink whatever is handed to them.

Corner Jumping as of now anyways is illegal here in MT!

Carry on!

What is "corner jumping?"

I've binge watched it over the past couple weeks I enjoy the show

Think of a checker board with red and black squares. Red squares are public land. Black squares are private. In Montana you can legally jump from corner to corner to access public land.

I like Rinella's podcast and show. His book "American Buffalo" is a good read also.

Corner jumping? LMFAO....

I can’t see how it would be illegal if you don’t set foot on grumpy’s property. Fuggem anyway, he doesn’t own the airspace, he owns the ground so if I don’t touch his ground he can kiss my ass.

Rinella is a moron, at least what I’ve seen of him wasn’t impressive.

Like, literally jump over a piece of ground? lol

As a public land hunter I fail to understand why corner jumping is a bad thing.

Because the people who own the private land want to keep the public land locked up.

Had to go back and check the original as I assumed an anti hunting/ anti 2A was called an Accursed Being

In reference to corner-jumping (an another thread, perhaps on Idaho) what about jumping over a 2-foot strip of land between a public road and public land? (Just trying to better understand corner-jumping and perception....

You should be thanking Land and sending money. He is doing the heavy lifting for you.

Who brought "That guy"?

He put a jackrabbit in his game pouch and kept hunting. He ended up crawling with fleas.

I can't afford to do most things most people do.



(Who is John Lee?)

It's a good show.

The conspiracy theory that there is some left wing agenda at hand is a good one regarding conservation and hunters. I always enjoy reading what people can come up with.

I love the podcasts and the shows. Its the only national hunting show I will watch.

My buddy is doing a 4 day long filmed ice fishing trip with Rinella in 2 weeks.

I didnt get an invite. 🖕😔😂

Corner jumping is state dependent. To my knowledge one is still free to fly in.

No drinking whatever. I’m fully aware it may be illegal. I’m fine with folks breaking that law.

What’s the deal with John Lee?

Headin in to my buddies ranch I’m driving my buddies truck across the neighbors pasture—my buddy says
“you got this whole big pasture here and you have to beat my truck all to hell in these ruts?” He’s from Canada
I tell him “the easement says 12 ft wide and I will not deviate one inch from that.”

Who the fuuck is John Lee?

John Lee

😂😂

I guess "haters" would be me.
Rinella sold a huge (controlling) stake in Meateater to Liberal activist Peter Chernin. Gun hater extraordinaire.... that's not a conspiracy theory it's fact.
If that all seems like a contradiction in terms, it is.

Looks like the groupies made it here first....

Just like clockwork. Thanks for posting, I was starting to get worried.

God Bless...

I'm still a little confused about "corner jumping" and the only reason I ask is because I don't want to break the law in the future.

It might not be a law in your state.

Picture four corners of property, two diagonal are public land the other two private. Here in MT it is illegal to cross those corners.

I agree corner jumping laws are complete BS. But don't sell your show on DIY Public land hunting when you corner jump by flying in and using a guide too! Bottom line is those jack wagons got you suckers fooled. They are no friend to hunting or 2A. But by all means carry on!

Don't talk in facts here on the fire it isn't received well. They get their panties all bunched up.

I don’t know why you think I support Rinella because I clearly stated that he was a moron and I wasn’t impressed by him. I agree with you about him. 👍

I don't! Read what I wrote. I agreed with you that Corner jumping is complete BS.

I just continued on about what a loser those Bozeman Jack_sses are.

Gotcha.... some things are lost in the internet translation.

Can you please cite the statute forbidding it in MT?

I don't really give a sh** about Rinella, and don't watch his show. I just think it's funny when "conservatives" want to tell people what they should or should not watch on TV.

Rugged individualism at its finest.

I noticed a lot of younger people like the show but some of the ideals he promotes are a bit strange and his fans take after that too. Since it's so popular there are many fans. So you have a bunch of people out there eating coyotes or whatever nasty [bleep] or even some trashing those bad bad trophy hunter men who don't eat their old ibex or buffalo or whatever. Odd behavior to say the least.

"So I went ahead and bought a trusty meat thermometer and started eating bear burgers and bear steaks. Obviously, I'm still alive. Now, I don't even bother testing my bear meat. The results are not going to alter my behavior, no matter what they are. I'll still eat my bear meat, cooked to a medium doneness. And even if you contract trichinosis, it doesn't mean you've had your last bear hunt. Early symptoms, if any, include muscle fatigue, diarrhea, heartburn, and fatigue. If you catch it early, it's easily treated. So go ahead and eat that bear meat in your freezer. You've got no excuse to let it sit in your freezer until it's freezer burned. Remember: you kill it, you eat it."

To the best of my knowledge there isn't a Statute and this is the problem. Depending on where you hunt some jurisdictions will turn an eye and others will not. I know of two cases that they did not turn an eye on. I also know another region that will not respond to a report of corner jumping. So here is the thing if you get caught by someone that wants to push the issue it is your time and money to deal with it. Which is complete BS. I believe it has been brought up to the house at least twice.

I don't see anywhere that anyone TOLD anyone not to watch or listen to the show. We are all free to make our own choices.

What is really funny is "Liberals" want to take away a right! And that liberal sportsmen and gun owners are to f_cking stupid to understand that.

You’re from MT - do you know them? What have you seen them do that qualifies this statement? I’m curious because I like the show but I always hear stuff like this, too, and would like to know more.

Thanks.

Here’s the political contributions this election cycle for Meat Eaters majority owner Peter Chernin

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000067127

All were to liberals (Pelosi, Kamala Harris, mark Kelly whose platform is pretty much gun control as it’s major focus and planned parent hood’s pac). I don’t care how great a guy Rinella May be, I’m not supporting a company that supports causes/views I think are bad for this country.

Also here’s an open letter Chernin signed supporting “assault weapons ban” and universal background checks

https://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/guns.pdf

If you look at his twitters he’s got several anti-trump and pro Adam Schiff posts

The same Chernin that headed up News Corp and Fox News?

He’s always been a douche bag.

Sorry I opened a can of worms here guys. I guess any time one of these threads opens up, some like 'em and some don't. Needless to say, I won't support anyone who's anti 2A or supports those that are.

Have you ever been through a PE buyout? Politics doesn't really enter the equation. It's about money. How are you going to take this buyout and grow it? Rumor is, it was over 8 figures.

Entrepreneurs are rewarded. If you build something people want, you should be rewarded.

It seems like the American dream to me. Build something, sell it, build some more and then the 2nd capitalization event, cash out. He's done well.

Thanks MCH. You're correct that there have been multiple bills to clarify that it's either legal or illegal. All have failed to pass. And that's why there's the gray area of how a judge would interpret the criminal trespass law. One judge in WY ruled that it's not trespassing but obviously that's only the case law under his jurisdiction. Did the two you know of that were cited go to court? A lot has changed since the ad coelum doctrine was the law of the land. You should try to get cited and go to court so there's some case law one way or the other.

Chernin is gonna do what he's gonna do, regardless of whether he owns Meateater or not. Think about the target audience of the show though. It's not 2A supporters or lifelong hunters. It's people who don't know much about hunting and the message is, "if you eat meat, there's nothing wrong with killing it yourself." Thats a good message and the people who need to hear that are not the ones who post here.

There is no statue that says corner crossing is illegal in MT.

Please provide any kind of proof you can be prosecuted for doing something that there is NO statute saying whatever you did was not legal.


Please provide proof you can be charged for breaking a law that does not exist.

The corner crossing should probably move to its own thread but-


The argument is-
Terms Used In Montana Code 45-6-203
(b) enters or remains unlawfully in or upon the premises of another. (2) A person convicted of the offense of criminal trespass to property shall be fined not to exceed $500 or be imprisoned in the county jail for any term not to exceed 6 months, or both.

The argument goes-
If you put a quarter on the ground with 4 lines moving out from the center point. And you step over the diagonals, parts of your body enters the adjacent squares.

Predictably, if the Court rules that entering someone’s property is ok, then that raises a takings argument.

“The Fifth Amendment of the United States Constitution includes a provision known as the Takings Clause, which states that "private property [shall not] be taken for public use, without just compensation." While the Fifth Amendment by itself only applies to actions by the federal government, the Fourteenth Amendment ...”

Onx maps is purportedly cataloging how many corners lock land.

A popular maxim in regards to this concept is, “Cuius est solum, eius est usque ad coelum et ad inferos” which basically translates to: “whoever owns the soil, holds title all the way up to the heavens and down to the depths of hell“.

Split estates and air traffic not withstanding and what I was referring to above. How close to the ground can aircraft fly in sparsely populated areas and not be trespassing?

KRAKMT- where would "effective posting" need to be, relative to the corners, to meet the requirements in said statute?

Same way I feel, exactly. But predictably the same guys keep jumping into these discussions, taking a detour, have all the answers . . . and turn it into a pissing match.

Technically, hunting requires permission. So posting doesn’t apply to hunting situations.

Trespassing without hunting-
(2) To provide for effective posting of private land through which the public has no right-of-way, the notice provided for in subsection (1) must satisfy the following requirements:

(a) notice must be placed on a post, structure, or natural object by marking it with written notice or with not less than 50 square inches of fluorescent orange paint, except that when metal fenceposts are used, the entire post must be painted; and

(b) the notice described in subsection (2)(a) must be placed at each outer gate and normal point of access to the property, including both sides of a water body crossing the property wherever the water body intersects an outer boundary line.

(3) To provide for effective posting of private land through which or along which the public has an unfenced right-of-way by means of a public road, a landowner shall:

(a) place a conspicuous sign no closer than 30 feet of the centerline of the roadway where it enters the private land, stating words substantially similar to "PRIVATE PROPERTY, NO TRESPASSING OFF ROAD NEXT ___ MILES"; or

(b) place notice, as described in subsection (2)(a), no closer than 30 feet of the centerline of the roadway at regular intervals of not less than one-fourth mile along the roadway where it borders unfenced private land, except that orange markings may not be placed on posts where the public roadway enters the private land.

(4) If property has been posted in substantial compliance with subsection (2) or (3), it is considered closed to public access unless explicit permission to enter is given by the landowner or the landowner's authorized agent.

Air traffic is often cited, but technically the feds have the authority to regulate air space not necessarily own it. It is similar to someone owning a street in a city. You own the land, often get taxed for it, can’t really do anything with it, but you own it.
The faa recently got slapped for attempting to regulate non navigable airspace. Lots of fighting going on in that arena.

The new heavy lift drones will become an interesting twist on airspace.
Imagine plotting your course to the durfees from a bluff of blm land, crawl into the payload hold and be dropped off on a roadway inside the landlocked piece of property.
The drone returns to its transport back at the bluff to await your signal to return for your downed elk.

The Steve Rinella Controversy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81KHGx6Crvk

Steve Rinella Meateater Controversy Follow Up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rcN2ppbfs4

Book was a good read.

KRAKMT

Thanks for the clear outline of the issues. Definitely agree it deserves its own thread..
And can see a root in fences, I.e., someone squeezing between two checkerboard fences eventually loosens the posts...

Something else that could use its con thread.
Re: drones, I posted in another thread about a writer who had a drone visit while hunting with the land owner. If someone is seeking game on your land, or trying to disrupt a hunt I would argue it is trespassing..but as I said, another thread...

Thanks again for the outline

Often fences will be continuous, without any corner or special bracing.
And more often the fence is a few feet off of the geomarker, so where you are crossing may be entirely across someone’s property.
Each corner is pretty unique.
It will be interesting what onx identifies.
People spend lots of time geocacheing, a publication of photos of the restricted corners would be very helpful in moving away from the theoretical.

No, I haven't. I'm just an average Joe that looks at a situation and forms an opinion based on a man's actions.
I've seen Meateater and have always been unimpressed; but when I saw that Rinella sold out to Cernin I was disappointed.
Sure, money is the bottom line for many, but not for all of us. Some principles shouldn't be for sale.

I'm not trying to sound sanctimonious, I'm just tired of men compromising the important things for the almighty dollar.

He hasn't compromised anything. He retained 100% of content control.

He is the best thing for the 2A in media right now. Pushing hunting into a positive light will do nothing but benefit the 2A and us who love it.

I will turn this around to its natural position. By not supporting meateater, you are not supporting the largest push for gun rights in this day and age.

I would not agree with that at all. I think he puts hunting in a positive light for many people who are on the fence and willing to listen to his message, but that doesn't equate to a large push for gun rights. Many in his audience would happily support an "assault weapons" ban and other "common sense gun laws."

Actually it's more of a legal gray area that one would have to fight in court.

That is exactly right.

It's amazing to me how people can twist and turn right and wrong to fit their narrative. Cernin is THE ENEMY to 2A supporters.

Have watched him for years, good stuff...more down to earth and realistic than most. Also read one of his books...that was good too.

JFC
Bunch of stupid millennials.
Rinella sure has sucked them into his crap. Just another BHA lefty.
My sons thought he was something special until I set them straight.

Exactly what I was thinking when I watched that crap.

It doesn't matter that he retained the rights. To be honest it doesn't even bother me that he took money from Cernin. Not something I would have done, but I don't sell out. There are so many holes in the video's but some people do not think, do not ask questions, and can not grasp what they see and hear. I am not here to be anyone else's critical thinker.

I'll disagree 100% with this. I am in an industry with a lot of non hunters who have no interest in gun rights. These people universally are very interested in meateater though and through this conduit, see a reason for gun rights.

You and I understand that the 2A isn't about hunting, but they don't and never will. And meateater is a HUGE avenue to move these individuals to our side. Maybe most don't want to hold hands with those groups. I think that's a mistake, because they will overwhelm the rest of us, and are damn close to doing it already. We are a dying breed. We are going to need some who don't look like us or act like us to come to our side.

If y'all keep on driving stakes between those of us who agree on 98%, we will definitely be out voted.

This 100%.
Hunting is dying. Look at the statistics. We need advocates and we can't be so picky as to chose the ones that line completely up with our personal "code". I'm afraid my son will have a hard time finding hunting partners and making the memories and learning the life experiences that only nature can give whenever's I'm not around.
Hunting needs to remain a part of America's DNA. It's more important than most realize. Younger people aren't going to be inspired by Jack O'Conner or Aldo Leupold. Those guys don't have podcasts.

Complete horsesh!t. Maybe hunting is 'dying' in NoCal, but it ain't here.
I hear this more and more and see more and more hunters afield every year.

Find another talking point.

Right. Gun rights as in "you can have a shotgun." Just like Joe Biden.

Ok, just ignore the data. Go with what your own eyes tell you. I'm sure thats a more accurate approach. Throw in a little ad hominem for good measure. Well done.

Numbers do seem to reflect a decline since the late 80’s and early 90’s with peak lows around 2008-2015. However, it does appear that there has been a rebound in the last few years, if these numbers are accurate.

https://wsfrprograms.fws.gov/Subpages/LicenseInfo/Hunting.htm

Hunting is dying? Ya....maybe along the east coast.

Call Colorado Parks and Wildlife or Wyoming Game and Fish and ask if their application number or license sold numbers are down.

Keep buying the schiit the fear mongers are shoveling.

No need. FWS does us the solid of making this information public every year. Both states have downward trends since 2000. This list reflects total hunting licenses sold in the state in that year.

From the link:

———— Colorado — Wyoming

2000 — 337,475 — 147,416
2005 — 309,801 — 137,677
2010 — 294,186 — 149,581
2015 — 281,201 — 133,568
2019 — 298,901 — 132,075



In 2019, Colorado sold 88.5% of what they sold in 2000 and Wyoming sold 89.5% of what they sold in 2000.

Are the quotas the same? Or have they been reduced in the same time period? And are they selling out?

Hunting is dying so I'm sure they've got piles of good tags lying around.

They're not the same where I hunt. I used to be able to draw my preferred tag with zero PPs, now I can't draw with 1 .PP.

There ya go ducksanddogs. Smearing back yard opinions with actual facts.

Colorado — Wyoming

2000 — 337,475 — 147,416
2005 — 309,801 — 137,677
2010 — 294,186 — 149,581
2015 — 281,201 — 133,568
2019 — 298,901 — 132,075

Pretty obvious to me.
Same story in much of midwest.

Pa., licenses are down.
They bragged some, that sales were up with a Saturday opening of deer season.
I like meateater.
He pulls some great tags, or has someone (?), pay big bucks, but his hunts are honest, and out to fill the tag with whatever presents the shot.
I'm not seeing many product plugs on his shows either.
I would like to know more about his rifle and scope choice tho.
I googled, but it didnt come up with a specific cartridge or scope.
I'm not up on Vortex optics, so I dont know what he's using.
He's a decent shot tho.

He used a custom (LH) early on. They were sponsored by Savage for some time but are now a Weatherby representative. They're tight now with Adam Weatherby and have made a few trips together. I think they still do Vortex and First Lite. Some of the podcasts have been very interesting.

As previously mentioned, sportsman often don’t tract the binary republican/democrat political system. Conservation and public access is often at odds with conservative idealism. But firearms, hunting and even fishing can be contrary to democratic ideals.

Just a note on hunter numbers. I believe there are more people are applying for multiple species and multiple states than ever before. I am exhibit No. 1. I used to do 1 trip per 3 years. Now it is 2 per year. Still one hunter, but now I have 6 applications over a 3 year period instead of 1.

The population of the US is climbing. As has been shown, hunter numbers are declining. So when you talk about percentage of the US population that hunts, the decline is magnified.

Another consideration is that the baby boomers will soon be leaving hunting en masse. Take a look at the numbers and you will see is that we do not have a generation that will replace those numbers any where near that level of participation. We are running towards the cliff. Judging hunter numbers by point creep or the number of orange vests you see on opening day is not an accurate representation of what is happening.

For the record, I enjoy Meateater and I really enjoy Fresh Tracks with Randy Newberg. The two best hunting shows out there in my opinion. I can certainly think of worse ambassadors for our hobby.

That's like choosing which STD is better.....

That's exactly what I'll do.
One can't travel 50 yards in this state without rubbing elbows with someone else, particularly non-residents.
The statistics shown by others here are RELATIVE.
After you find a new talking point, grow a pair. This stuff ain't personal, it's simple banter.

Re. the horsesh!t ....er 'data' ....part of your posting:
"According to data from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, Idaho hit a record-high number of paid hunting license holders in 2019: 295,281."
Read more here: https://www.idahostatesman.com/outdoors/hunting/article240430411.html#storylink=cpy

More people being pushed onto less land does not equal more hunters overall. It might mean more hunters including non-residents are hunting “your” areas but that doesn’t mean there’s an increase in hunters it merely hunters that once hunted elsewhere are hunting where you are.

I know that in Washington the saltwater fishing has taken a dump, steelhead fishing is a shadow of its former glory and our hunting areas are converted to parks and trails for “non-consumptive users”. It’s fun trying to get a flock of pintails to commit to your spread with Mr and Mrs Purple and Pink Northface having a birdwatching conversation 15 yards behind your blind. I’ve grown tired of wasting my time down here on many things so if the state wants to cater to those that don’t foot the bill then they won’t get my annual donation. I’ll get my shellfish license because it pays for itself in crab and razor clams but unless I have a specific trip planned I don’t buy my license. I’ll hunt elsewhere rather than with a bunch of people crammed into smaller and smaller spots

I get that.

Reread my original answer, my response was in relation to where I live.
"Hunting may be dying' in some places, but not here.

Idaho is being overrun with record numbers of hunters and right now we're legislatively trying to resolve it. Its a mess.
Some of us can't wait either. I literally have a bullet hole through the wall of my shop from some idiot this Fall.

How do you know?

Ok.
Let me refrase that.
His hunts "appear" hi honest.
Happy ??

We are going away folks. Pack your [bleep]. We won't be around in 20 years. They don't need to take your guns when there's no dollars to support fish and game infrastructure.

Read today that Arkansas was down 500K in license sales alone over last year. What a great development! Less duck and hog hunters!

Y'all keep on.

Bump for RUM7.

The BHA dik beaters should go listen to the kifarucast episode 240. Then go look at the data bha provides vs. the wild sheep foundation and/or rmef.

Oh and also where their money comes from and where its spent...

BHA is totally a left-wing, anti-everything-but-wilderness Green front. Spawned by Trout Unlimited staffers, then the larger Green funders discovered them and started funding it. Young gullibles love it.

That’s one show I can a actually stand to watch. He gets out there and gets it done.

Is that on the Kifaru website? Not a dikbeater, asking for a friend.

I would check whatever you use to listen to podcasts (podbean, podcast addict, etc).

Or maybe google kifarucast if your jitterbug doesn't play podcasts (just joking, but that was funny).

I honestly dont know if they have a stand alone site or of its attached to kifaru.net.

I couldn't find it using "episode 240" does the episode have a name?

https://kifaru.net/kifarucast/

A misguided friend gave me the complete set of their cook books. Currently those are in a box in the shed. Just not worth even looking at.

It would appear that many people here either refused to listen to or were unaware that Steven Rinella put out a response, himself, to all of the Chernin group and 2nd Amendment accusations. So here it is, straight from the horses mouth:

Steven Rinella Statement Chernin Group and 2A

I enjoy the show as well as the podcast. I am a millennial, without most of the side effects, and I think Rinella does a great job reaching the younger generations like myself. Even a fair amount my friends who are not hunters enjoy the show and have started asking me if I have some venison or wild pig to bring to the BBQ. All in all I think Steven Rinella is a positive for the hunting community.

I enjoy the show ,,Looks like he is having fun out there ,not hurting anyone that I see, doubt he would video an trespass situation,, looks to hunt public land and I like his outlook at the end of the shows.. best hunting show ive seen but really dont watch hunting shows,, and real glad ya dont see alot of pimping for brand names,,seems his outlook and the way he hunts is kin to mine..

BHA is a clown show at best, fraudulent at worst. Yes, I’ve talked to them and some higher ups that used to be with them.

Rinella isn’t any better.

It's all about the $$$$

They are talented at makin that bread..

Ok.... cool aid drinking dikbeater here...

Can some one answer the question... "Who is John Lee ? ""

listening to episode 240 now as we speak....

I belong to BHA and have for several years. At least they speak for public land use- no one else does for hunters. I would be rather monitor it from the inside.
Our chapter is solidly pro hunting , and it will be watched closely.

I like Aaron, but dam man quit tiptoeing through the tulips. We aren't talking about bodybuilding or fish ponds. Say wtf is on your mind. I hate when people can't man up and just say it and own it.

Aron does just fine IMO considering where he’s at in the industry. Doesn’t pull too many punches and is more than welcoming to multiple viewpoints, which is refreshing. And yeah, again, I’m not guessing. Chit, I’ve been on the podcast twice now with another member here...

Maybe fine in your opinion. I am more from the school of manhood, don't beat around the bush. Say exactly what you are thinking or don't bring up the topic. I could careless who has been on his podcast. Like I said I like Aaron. I expected better from him. Your opinion may vary.

Implying Aron ain’t manly enough is kinda odd, but whatever floats your boat.

Only brought up the podcast thing, so there’d be perspective and show that I’m not talking out of my ass.

What he's doing is pretty cool I think. He's not trying to tell people how they should think or who they should support. He's telling them to go to the source, find the information, and make up their own minds and he's showing them how to do that. He found a guy who's an expert, interviewed him, and pointed out what people should be looking at. It works for me. I was a big supporter of BHA when it first started, the mission back then was clear and it was a grass roots organization focused on that mission. When they got big and started endorsing and supporting candidates for office that I may or may not agree with, they left me behind. That's not why I joined and it's not where I want my money going.

Everybody has to make up his own mind on this. A position like comerade stated above is not where I come down, but I can respect how he got there, and I'm not gonna argue with him about it or tell him he's wrong.

Find it hard to believe some don’t think he is pimping brands. He is like a Bozeman billboard in every scene throughout the entire show. Does he own anything not vortex or a rifle beside a salvage? Guess people see what they want. Might be a nice guy? I don’t know but his show is about making money not hunting or whatever fairytale story some tell themselves.

I agree. If you look at the financial information bha provides vs rmef, it's easy to see they are reluctant (for some reason) to disclose details. It's also telling what they spend money on.

Always keep in mind, a foundation wont give money to an organization that doesn't support the foundations cause or further their agenda.

Did your BC BHA chapter fight the grizzly bear hunting ban in BC?

Whoa whoa I doubt a special interest group for grizzly hunting gave them millions...so they didn't have a dog in the fight.

I didn't say Aaron isn't a man, but in that podcast he sure did not man up. Like I said your opinion my vary and that is fine. I am just not one for tiptoeing around, either talk about it and say what you feel, think, mean or don't talk about it. We all know dam well what he is talking about, but there are those that do not. So if you are going to discuss it on a podcast discuss it clearly and openly period. That is my take.

Of course not! How dare you ask that!

But that is ok because they are on our side for public land use. The dumbest thing anyone could ever say! I stopped supporting a bunch of bird hunting groups due to their affiliation with BHA.

So question for the haters and I’m sure I know the answer.

What have you done, if anything to keep public land in the public hands?

Also to get the word out about hunting to the non hunting public?

What have you done to protect public land hunting?

Of course these questions don’t apply to Texans.

We vote R to keep the USA with a viable 2A and work and pay taxes to keep state game dept going and pay taxes on shooting equipment to support Pittman-Robertson funding, though your commie buds now raid that for other purposes also.

You must not know what the R platform is on public land in Montana.

I’ll give BHA the benefit of the doubt in that the mean well. My problem with them is that they seem so set on their one goal that there’s a lot of collateral damage. They get in bed with anti gun liberal politicians just because the pol says that their against selling public lands. I’m all for keeping public hunting open but that ranks below the 2nd A, the economy and a couple of other things for me.

Also they tend a little too much to the environmentalist side for me as they seem to oppose grazing and logging with can be beneficial if done right

WTF has bha done? Why does bha get most of its money from big money that is anti hunting?

News flash, drinking ipa's with the boyz doesn't achieve anything.

Bha is only interested in appeasing their big money donors. I dont want to know what their volunteers and individuals have done. I want to know where their money is going and what its doing.


The 2020 circle jerk is coming up, maybe Ted Turner will buy his way into their hearts and azzes this year....

Did you follow their work on the LWCF? For starters.


But for those can read my question wasn’t what has BHA done it was what have the haters done?

https://www.themeateater.com/hunt/big-game/is-hunting-too-white

More glorious meateater content.....bust out yer reading glasses boys, this is a gem.

Do tell...

I don't believe you actually read the article, because it simply puts out the facts of how different ethnicities are raised differently. It is, in no way. "white shaming" which I can imagine is to your disappointment.

Oh yes I'm sure the vast majority of black folks dont hunt because they're "are uncomfortable being afield among unknown white guys carrying guns" ........riiiiight.

It's a schit show clickbait article, written by a azzclown boomer...

It sure isn't journalism or productive in any manner. But that's "Meateater Inc" for you.

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Again the question isn’t what has BHA done it’s what have you done?

A misquote of the article, nice spin to meet your narrative. Lol...you're a funny one.

They plan on survival of the USA no allegiance to a NWO. Pick the worst poison and drink, as your kind is so instructed to do.

I read the article in it's entirety. I want that ten minutes back.
White privilege... white guilt.

Race baiting clowns.

Jag you are drunk posting again

And you're lying again.

Keep dreaming

Always hilarious to watch Jackson Handy (James Pendleton), lose his mind over what BHA is doing.

Its really none of your business, since you:

1. Aren't a member.
2. Contribute nothing to BHA.

But, since you asked, I'll just leave this here:

In case it was missed...and Rinella called you haters snowflakes hahahaha

The bha turds keeping coming out of the wood work....they must pay well.

I can’t be that difficult to come up with ONE thing you have done to protect public land.

I heard Pendleton once shot a dink-a-lope and a grouse...does that count?

Oh, and ripped off someone on a camera deal.

You blindly assume and I find that rather funny and telling of your character. You have no clue what any of us do or don't do. Not everyone needs to pound their chest and scream look at me. I know a few guys on here and a bunch of guys not on here that do a hell of a lot. But what I find compelling about your argument which is the same as the clowns cited here is that all the negatives of their doings make it ok because they are championing for public land rights. Do you not see how dumb that really is? I am not going to need Public land hunting rights once the other side of the coin has accomplished their mission of destroying both our 2A rights and Hunting rights. But keep on guessing what others do and don't do.

That's funny...Pendleton asks a question about where the money is spent, is provided an answer, then its declared "chest pounding" by you.

This tells me you don't really want the answers, just a reason to deflect and continue to grind that ax.

As to the second argument, I happen to agree with you, but lots and lots of groups, while supportive of the 2nd don't have the expertise that many other groups have in dealing with the issue of gun rights. Not every group has to be involved with every single issue, its perfectly acceptable to me, and many others, to support groups that deal with wildlife habitat while supporting others that deal with public access, 2nd amendment rights, and so on.

You want to see an ineffective, do nothing group, find one that tries to solve every problem and be involved in every issue trying to appeal to everyone. They don't last long, there needs to be a focus or you're done before you ever start.

IMO, its great to have people involved that support wildlife in general, while others focus on individual species specific missions (RMEF, MDF, MFFF, WSF, FNAWS, DU, PF, etc. etc.). Its great that others focus on policy, public access, legislative stuff, etc. Still great that others fight for our second amendment rights.

Its idiotic, impractical, and ridiculous for anyone to expect, for say, the NRA to spend a [bleep] load of money dealing with bighorn sheep habitat. Its equally as dumb for the NRA to be involved with land acquisitions for elk habitat when that's the focus of RMEF.

Doesn't mean we cant all be supportive of the over-all collective efforts, just means that if individuals are more concerned with elk habitat than wetlands for ducks, then they should spend their money on groups/efforts for elk habitat.

These bullchit expectations that you and others place on every group, to be everything, for everybody is flat ridiculous. Lots of moving parts in the world of wildlife habitat, policy, management, and conservation.

Pick the stuff that matters to you and support it...and allow others to do the same.

Really simple...

You are so wrong I am not going to waste my time correcting you. I will say you might just want to read what I wrote again really slow! And nowhere did I say that I expect every group to support every aspect of hunting. But I will be god damned if I am going to support any group that does not support 2A PERIOD!

EDIT: And any group that doesn't support Wolf or Griz hunting for that matter.

Sean Clarkson is correct about bha, and has seen it from within.

Again nobody will show where the bha hq funding goes or where it comes from.

I'll leave the thread with this, if you go to making hunting great again instagram page just look for the info dropped by Clarkson. It's pretty interesting from someone who was once affiliated with bha and resigned.


God bless....

I love these threads. Hunters conspiring to make sure hunting never happens again.

Keep on. Those who would love to kill hunting are paying attention.

Those who love to kill are the worst of all.

No, I'm not wrong...you're a group of 1 on your make believe Island.

WYBHA gave public testimony at the WYGF Commission season setting meeting in support of the proposed grizzly season here in Wyoming. You can listen to the testimony given, contact any of the WYGF commission, or GF Director if you like.

In regard to wolves in CO:

The North American Model of Wildlife Conservation and the Public Trust Doctrine define fish and wildlife resources as the property of the people and managed by the state and federal agencies entrusted with their stewardship. Backcountry Hunters & Anglers acknowledges this model as the foundation of science-based fish and wildlife management and we support hunting, fishing and trapping as appropriate management tools. BHA does not endorse advancing wildlife management policies and decisions by state or federal legislation or voter referendums and ballot initiatives. We are obligated as an organization committed to hunters and anglers to advance sound stewardship policies that are guided by science over politics, emotion, and conjecture.

While the presence of wolves and evidence of natural colonization in Colorado has instigated passionate conversations, BHA’s policies related to wildlife management remain unchanged. We do, however, recommend the following actions be considered related to future wolf management needs in the state:

• Update Colorado’s dated wolf management plan to incorporate new science, wildlife and habitat data, and the growing body of evidence that suggests natural colonization of the grey wolf (Canis lupus) is a reality in Colorado.

• Direct the appropriate decision-makers to study, evaluate, and secure new sources of funding to support the new financial burden of wolf management in Colorado.

• Develop a plan to evaluate potential livestock depredations and community conflicts, provide for ongoing monitoring, and create a compensation program that mitigates livestock losses for impacted commercial producers.

• Direct the appropriate decision-makers to create durable policies for any new livestock compensation programs that protect state-based revenue sources provided by hunters and anglers (Game Cash Fund) and create legal compliance with and insulation for federal funds provided by the Federal Aid in Wildlife Restoration Act of 1937 (Pittman–Robertson).

• Facilitate cross-jurisdictional collaboration with neighboring states and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service related to future wolf management needs in Colorado.



The Montana chapter in opposition of I-177, which if it would have passed, would have been the end of wolf trapping in Montana:

https://www.backcountryhunters.org/montana_bha_opposes_i_177

So, what group are you contending isn't supportive of wolf hunting/trapping or grizzly bear hunting? You seem confused.

People come and go for all kinds of reasons from every group. Seems there was a recent spat of NRA resignations, it happens and not my place to judge why people leave.

People resign from jobs, boards, committee's, all the time for a wide variety of reasons...doesn't mean a thing. For every person that steps down, quits a job, quits a board, someone else steps right in to replace them.

IMO, I would be more suspicious of a group that never has changes in the board, resignations, etc. from time to time. In fact, most have by-laws that wont allow people to stay on boards for more than 4-6 years...that's not by chance, its by design.

WOW still flying clear over your head. But by all means keep on your rant. By the way there are a lot of guys that are on the island of not liking BHA. And even if I was alone I rather be alone then surrounded by a bunch of morons that can't see the big picture. Keep on keeping on. But this is my last post in response to anything you have to say on the subject.

Cripes it always amazes me how many guys on the fire struggle with reading comprehension.


I never assumed you did or didn’t do anything. I simple ask some very easy questions of the BHA haters——I will type them again very slowly.



What have you done, if anything to keep public land in the public hands?

Also to get the word out about hunting to the non hunting public?

What have you done to protect public land hunting?


Very easy to answer unless of course you consider bashing BHA on the fire as doing something.



What I will assume if you keep dodging the questions is you don’t do squat. Handy cut and ran so it is safe to say he has done nothing.

U C A N K E E P U R D R.

I see the big picture just fine. There are lots of value's in having Federal Lands remain in Federal ownership in Wyoming, Montana too for that matter. Not just for hunting, fishing, hiking, and other outdoor recreation, but for the extractive uses as well. Public lands support a vast majority of the economy in both Montana and Wyoming. Logging, grazing, mining, outdoor recreation, PILT, etc. etc. Without public lands, Wyoming and Montana would look a lot different, economically and otherwise. You should know that if you're really a "big picture" guy like you claim.

That's fine people don't like BHA, lots of people don't like the WSF, RMEF, NRA (as seen right here on the 'fire), DU, PF, MDF and the list goes on and on. Seems like there's 40-50K that like BHA enough to become members, no question its not for everybody, isn't supposed to be. When I joined in WY, there were 38 members, over 1K now...people like what we're doing here.

I'm not surrounded by morons either, but typically am surrounded by decision makers that are asking for my input on what goes on with public lands, habitat, wildlife, hunting, fishing, land trades, land acquisitions, conservation efforts, habitat improvement, access...you know, BIG PICTURE things.

Good luck to you with your BIG PICTURE...sincerely.

Never see BHA helping build fences along elk migration routes by highways to stop the elk from being hit. Never see BHA members show up to plant bitter brush in burned out areas to help mule deer.You can see them though sipping IPA's in flat brimmed hats at the local brewery arguing that kifaru is better than kuiu and virtue signaling on instagram about how much they care. I used to be member and ran into quite a few anti gun guys in BHA. no thanks

The Washington BHA chapter has close ties with Conservation NW an organization that brought in wolves, shut down hunting seasons and run by a member of earth first, an ecoterrorist organization. Why would BHA team up with a left wing eco terrorist?


Mitch Friedman

http://thetalonconspiracy.com/tag/mitch-friedman/

https://www.evergreenmagazine.com/mitch-friedman-restoring-resiliency/

Winning!

Protect.......equals.....wait for it.......exclusion.

What do you call a guy that flunks out of medical school?






An optometrist.

Maybe the case with your chapter, but many chapters do a lot of that very thing.

WYBHA supported the wildlife crossing measure on the SPET ballot. We also are supporting the migration initiative and helped lobby the GF Commission to get the ball rolling on the Dry Piney project with the initial 1.25 million in funding. That was promptly matched with another 1.25 million from the WYDOT.

We do all kinds of on the ground projects, signage projects for the Forest Service and State Lands Office, buck and rail fencing projects. Have a big fence removal project planned with the Wyoming Game and Fish at the Bud Love Wildlife Management area in June. I just held a wild game processing clinic at my house here a couple weeks back. Held 2 CWD workshops to help the WYGF collect samples for CWD testing. Yearly cleanup of a popular target shooting area North of Laramie on BLM ground.

The list goes on and on...

Each chapter is what you make it, we make the most of ours.

No Never.......... Come on Jim it is all roses and sunshine!

Why would you expect an organization whose mission is to keep public access to public lands to help with an elk feeding project? It’s not their mission so why are they held accountable if they don’t?

Is RMEF doing anything to help with landlocked public land? Did DU do anything to increase access to the wetlands they preserve? Slapping BHA for not helping with species specific events is somewhat foolish as it has nothing to do with their mission.

Additionally, I’d be willing to bet that BHA members helped out in those events wearing an RMEF hat or some other organization’s hat.

I’m pretty sure that a non-profit organization has to show proof that they’re spending money on their mission as stated when filing for nonprofit status. Unfortunately, for BHA, that means supporting people and organizations that are for protecting public land. They have a lot to lose by supporting people who are opposed to public land and, therefore, do what they do. It’s all about aligning with the mission at the end of the day. Pretty simple.

Go ahead and pile on, I’m not supporting them or accusing them of anything. Just simply pointing out why they act the way they act. I couldn’t really care less. I do think it’s funny how many people are willing to badmouth another group of hunters and anglers because their views are lightly opposed. Just like every vote for someone besides Trump is a vote for a democrat, every comment against ANY hunting organization is a comment supporting the antis.

do think it’s funny how many people are willing to badmouth another group of hunters and anglers because their views are lightly opposed.

I personally more than lightly oppose.

I do agree with you their mission isn't wildlife it is land access. Too bad they choose to go about it all wrong.

Tell y'all what I'd love to see:

Eliminate the $Millions of azzholes in the state game departments, the federal cabinets, and everything else to do with hunting, then:

Have each state set resident and nonresident pricing for each species within that given state, no draws, no limits, no nuthin'; then see in a couple of years that effect on the game and the ecosystem... [bleep], I bet we'd have healthier game, and a METRIC FV(KTON more money for conservation than we do now...

I bet they’ll get it figured out before too long. They didn’t really have a model to go off of, being essentially one of the first groups of their type.

Too Late For That, they are in bed with all the wrong people!

Are there “right” people who favor public lands over extractive use? Asking genuinely because I don’t know. It seems like the line falls between pro 2A and pro public lands.

Short answer yes.

Maybe some here don't realize the playbook being used. It is a classic East Coast Tale! You fight for access rights, but the access rights you are fighting for are not designed for hunting and hunters. Hunters are just a boost in numbers for the real agenda. If you know anything about other outdoor activities you will understand. The access they want is for hikers, bikers, kayakers, fishermen, climbers, etc. Not for hunting and hunters. We are being used to fight for the access. Then later down the road they separate us from them (non-hunters). They know their numbers outweigh ours by a landslide. So they use us while they can to fight for the access and once that goal is accomplished they push us out (easily) of the equation.

Anyways for those that are buying into the BHA BS there is nothing anyone can say or do to help you. Feel free to carry on. Just remember once the hammer drops that you were a part of the problem.

Great Article on BHA..

https://thefederalist.com/2019/01/1...big-problems-for-hunter-focused-company/

The only thing I find curious is the only time I see you post is when you are defending BHA. It's a bit strange.

Just a simple observation from someone from the far sidelines....

The Federalist? Laffin!

What’s next Alex Jones?

Why not copy and paste to keep others from dealing with their clickbait?

I watched a couple more episodes of the show today. I like it.

Is that right?

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/14336594/all/wy-mt-season

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/13848145/3

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/13478884/10

Maybe I just don't find it necessary to post on every topic, acting like the many know-it-alls who wreck about every thread on this board.

I click on it takes me right to the article.. what next want me to come over and open your can of ensure for you.. Jesus people on this site bunch of inept/non technological ph ucks.. stop watching porn hub and maybe your pop ups will slow down..

For all
The ol bastards that don’t have ad blocker or running a computer system from 1998. But mainly for ironbender and Sitka deer they are both 85 yrs old..

MeatEater, a popular hunter-focused entertainment company started by outdoorsman and writer Steven Rinella, was purchased by a rabidly anti-gun Democrat financier late last year in a move that has raised alarms among hunters and gun-rights activists. The Chernin Group, a California-based investment fund run by wealthy Democratic activist and Hollywood producer Peter Chernin, purchased a controlling stake in Rinella’s MeatEater in 2018.

The left-wing, anti-gun political activism of MeatEater’s largest investor, as well as political commentary and activity from some of its key partners and sponsors, complicates the company’s expansion plans given that such a large percentage of hunters in the United States — who comprise MeatEater’s core audience — staunchly support both gun rights and Republican political candidates. Chernin’s company announced the investment in MeatEater and its hiring of a new CEO for the company via a press release last October.

Chernin, who has donated nearly $500,000 to Democratic candidates and causes since 2015, has repeatedly attacked gun rights and Second Amendment activists over the last year. He retweeted comedian Michael Ian Black’s attack on the National Rifle Association as a “terrorist organization” and a separate Hollywood personality’s attempt to force FedEx and Visa to sever their ties with the NRA.

In addition to endorsing calls for a ban on so-called “trophy hunting,” Chernin also signed a petition backed by a Michael Bloomberg-funded gun control group demanding a federal ban on semi-automatic weapons.



MeatEater’s ties to left-wing causes and candidates don’t end with Chernin, however. Ben O’Brien, a former marketing manager for YETI Coolers who now serves as the editorial director for MeatEater, was behind YETI’s controversial elimination of discounts for NRA members, a move that blew up in the company’s face. Following YETI’s announcement, NRA members videotaped themselves filling the pricey coolers with explosives and blowing them up, shooting them to pieces, and crushing them in vises. O’Brien responded on his Instagram page by attacking the NRA, where he used to work as a web editor, characterizing the gun-rights organization as bullies.

O’Brien also all but endorsed Democratic Sen. Jon Tester (D-Mont.) via the MeatEater podcast during the heat of the 2018 campaign. Tester defeated Republican challenger Matt Rosendale by just 18,000 votes.

“I found him to be credible and believable,” O’Brien said during the podcast. “I found Senator Tester to be credible, and to be pragmatic, and a straightforward dude.”

Matt Rosendale, the Republican candidate, was never featured on the podcast.

In his write-up of the controversial Tester podcast, O’Brien didn’t do himself any favors. After stating that “We like our guns,” O’Brien wrote that it was a “problem” that the NRA supports Republicans.

“The biggest problem here is that the NRA supports a large number of Republican congressmen and these folks can sometimes be predisposed to political stances that go against federal control of public lands, not to mention sound management of wildlife populations and their habitats,” he wrote.

O’Brien then shifted to a defense of pro-gun control Democrats who had received failing grades from the NRA.

“For those who received poor grades from the NRA, the gun control stances are nuanced,” he claimed.

Rinella was hit with a barrage of criticism about the interview on his Facebook page after he announced the podcast.

“So if you’re gonna have the Democrat, you’ll surely have the republican right?” one commenter asked. “Since you’re so unpartisan and all. Doubtful. Very sad to see you get in bed with people who are fundamentally against your beliefs.”

“I’m tired of all this crap,” another wrote. “I’ll be glad when this election is over. Steven Rinella… can we stick to the meat and leave the taters out of it?”

“All I see this as a publicity stunt,” wrote another. “Show me a hunt you all did together in a nonelection year.”

Chernin, whose fund now owns a controlling stake in MeatEater, donated $5,400 toward Tester’s re-election last year. On his Instagram page, O’Brien lashed out at those who criticized his handling of the Tester interview.

“[I]t seems that a number of folks didn’t think at all before commenting or attempt to read anything,” he wrote.

His detractors, however, may have had a point, given O’Brien’s close connections to long-time Tester political operatives. That’s because O’Brien also serves on the board of Backcountry Hunters and Anglers (BHA), a non-profit run by Land Tawney, a Montana Democratic operative and former Obama presidential campaign surrogate. In 2012, Tawney ran the Montana Hunters and Anglers PAC, which spent seven figures to defeat Tester’s Republican challenger at the time.

According to Federal Election Commission Records, 100 percent of the expenditures from Tawney’s PAC–nearly $1.2 million–were used to oppose Republican Rep. Denny Rehberg, Tester’s opponent. The BHA chairman, Ryan Busse, served as a formal Tester campaign surrogate during the Democratic incumbent’s 2018 re-election campaign. Critics of BHA derisively refer to it as a “green decoy,” an organization that presents as pro-hunter but actually exists to push conventional left-wing environmental policies.

“Backcountry Hunters and Anglers (BHA) represents itself as good-ole-boy outdoorsmen who simply want to hunt and fish and be left alone,” the Environmental Policy Alliance (EPA) writes on the website GreenDecoys.com. “But don’t be fooled. As evidenced by both its sources of funding and current leadership, BHA is nothing more than a big green activist organization pushing a radical environmentalist agenda.”
O’Brien’s BHA “claims to represent hunters,” a video from EPA states, “but gets most of its money from three liberal foundations and even supports massive federal land grabs.”

In contrast with Chernin and O’Brien, Rinella comes across as relatively apolitical and singularly focused on his passion for hunting. With a natural gift for explaining the history and importance of hunting and an infectious love of the outdoors, Rinella has tapped into a large and devoted niche of followers eager for content that celebrates their hobbies.

Whereas personalities like rock guitarist and outspoken hunter Ted Nugent often made hunters seem like blood-thirsty savages, Rinella has worked to soften the public perception of the activity, mixing it with a reverence for nature, a desire to protect the habitats of his prey, and a deep respect for the animals he harvests to feed himself and his family. The result has been a product that attracts both lifelong hunters from the sticks and urban hipsters.

“New and emerging hunters make up a big segment of our viewership,” Rinella told the Star Tribune last July. “The food aspect of the show speaks to them in a big way.”

A journalist by training, Rinella in 2008 published his first book, “American Buffalo: In Search Of A Lost Icon,” to much critical acclaim (it won the Sigurd F. Olson Nature Writing Award) and followed that up with several successful books on hunting and cooking. By 2011 he had his own show on the Travel Channel. In 2015, he launched the “MeatEater” podcast in what would eventually become the foundation of his most audacious and successful venture yet. He now has his own show on Netflix and a lifestyle and entertainment start-up flush with cash from a major Hollywood producer and investor.

While Rinella has generally avoided politics, he appears aware of the danger of going off the reservation regarding gun control while depending on Second Amendment enthusiasts for an audience. In a 2007 column for Salon.com, Rinella tackled the subject of Jim Zumbo, a once-beloved gun writer whose career was undone when he wrote on his blog that AR-15s, the most popular rifle platform in America, were “‘terrorist’ rifles.”

The response to Zumbo’s comments was devastating. In an instant, Zumbo lost his sponsorships with major gun manufacturers, his hunting show on the Outdoor Channel, and his audience of once-loyal fans. Despite profuse apologies, Zumbo was undone by the incident.

“It’s hard to overstate the gun-owning community’s backlash over Zumbo’s remarks,” Rinella wrote at the time. “Armed with blogs of their own, firearms advocates labeled Zumbo a traitor and generated rapid-fire e-mail campaigns that poured thousands of complaints into the inboxes of Zumbo’s associates and sponsors, ranging from High Mountain Jerky, a Wyoming mom-and-pop producer of specialty wild-game curing spices, to the firearms giant Remington Arms Co.”

But Rinella started tip-toeing toward the gun control danger zone in a 2011 interview with NPR, in which he refused to say whether he opposed a federal ban on so-called assault weapons. Instead, he told the host that not only does he not hunt with an AR-15, he doesn’t hunt with anyone who uses an AR-15. When pressed further, Rinella volunteered to the host that his own brother “just made a radical departure” from his ostensibly pro-Second Amendment views on the issue of a federal ban on semi-automatic rifles and was “rethinking this whole issue” in light of recent mass shootings.

In an e-mail back and forth with The Federalist, Rinella firmly stated that he has never supported any weapons bans.

“I support the Second Amendment and have never supported or endorsed any bans on classifications of weapons,” Rinella wrote while out on a hunt for Coues deer in Sonora, Mexico, that will be showcased on a future episode of his Netflix show. As to not hunting with AR-15s or other popular semi-automatic rifle platforms, Rinella told The Federalist that it was purely a matter of personal preference, rather than political principle.

“I personally don’t use them, as I prefer bolt-action rifles and probably always will,” he wrote, echoing his 2011 comments to NPR that his “definition of a hunting rifle is fixed on a specific image” of the old-fashioned yet reliable bolt-action rifle.

He also told The Federalist that Kevin Sloan, the former Sitka Gear president whose appointment as CEO of MeatEater was announced concurrently with news of Chernin Group’s purchase of a controlling stake in the company, both owns and hunts with AR-15s. In his conversation with The Federalist, Rinella also rejected calls for global bans on so-called “trophy hunting,” noting such bans would be “catastrophic to funding structures that are necessary for wildlife management and recovery.”

Rinella forcefully pushed back against suggestions that he would allow Chernin to hijack MeatEater in order to push his left-wing, anti-gun political agenda.

“While I may disagree with some of Mr. Chernin’s personal views on policy issues, the idea that he would try to exert influence on the content of MeatEater, Inc. strikes me as preposterous,” Rinella told The Federalist. “Any review of his track record would back me up.”

“By design, all our content is publicly available,” Rinella wrote. “There’s no need for anyone to wonder what we think or what we’re doing. It’s right there, in plain sight.”

As MeatEater expands — it now has primary content contributors plus Rinella — Rinella’s big challenge will not be in maintaining his own brand, which is well-established, but in building that of his new company and its slate of personalities in a way that speaks to both long-time and not-yet hunters without alienating the pro-AR-15, pro-Second Amendment base that forms the critical mass of his audience.

Building a successful business that bridges those cultural and political divides is a tougher undertaking than cultivating a personal brand, especially if new personalities decide their pet political issues are a bigger priority than the company’s standing among its listeners and viewers. How Rinella navigates that path, and whether he can avoid the political minefields surrounding it, may be the determining factor in MeatEater going the way of Jim Zumbo or establishing itself as the go-to place for everything hunting.

Assuming past is prologue, it would be foolish to bet against Rinella and MeatEater. If there’s anything he excels at as an avid hunter and outdoorsman, it’s looking downrange, keeping his sights on target, and reaping the harvest.

So what was wrong with the article? Did the portray the founding father of BHA Land Tawney wrong? Is he not a democrat and campaigned for Obama? What about Ben O’Brien? The list goes on, these ph uck wads you admire just as soon see them ban AR15 etc. let me guess you don’t own AR15 and want them banned too..

callnum is a bitch troll.


I wouldn't bother responding to that little twat.

+1

Sam thanks for the heads up..

Who? I’d like to know a few names of politicians who are pro-2A, pro-hunting, pro-public lands, pro-access, etc.

I’d gladly send some money to a politician who aligned with every one of my beliefs.

Pretty good read

In short hand free beer, have some story tellers and you are a top notch organization out fighting for joe public.

https://www.rokslide.com//threads/bha-rendezvous.94104/page-3

Why you are already giving money to groups that are anti 2A, anti hunting, pro public land, pro access, etc

I pay my federal taxes which is more than what most do.

I have managed cattle on public lands and cared for it like it was my own.

It’s interesting to see that a $3k donation can get some of you slobbering over the multi-million $ organization and pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

Coming from an inbred dirt farmer?

I like the show. I like the Podcast. I also like Newberg.

They put a positive light on an activity I care about. An activity that generally involves firearms and other weapons. Softening the image for people who may not be pro 2A.

That is nothing but a good thing. It will create voters who will warm up to the 2A. We need that.



The world ain't black and white. If you only associate with people who are your perfect image, your world will be small, and we will fail.


All this conspiracy stuff makes me think some of us need to get out more.

No doubt that caldumb is an anti gun , anti hunting troll

I like his show and his hunts. He was in South East Alaska hunting with Joe Rogan awhile back. Joe Rogan is on you tube endorsing Bernie Sanders, said he is a good guy and there really is not any dirt to dig up on him. He is a enemy of America and the 2nd Amendment and our wonderful Constitution. His wife also had some shady crap with big bucks at the school she worked for. He managed to buy another home after he last ran for office, for a mere $800.000.

I e-mailed Steve the Meat Eater a month or so ago and asked him if he knew his buddy was a Bernie fan. Still waiting for and answer. Still watching his show some times.

https://www.backcountryhunters.org/bha_reacts_to_haaland_s_selection_as_interior_secretary

So BHA has gone full retard in their anti hunting stance after the Dems won?

I heard Rinella in a podcast recently refer to Trump voters as the American ISIS. Try to track down the PC number. Was out hiking when I was listening to it

I refuse to watch the new season simple fact his affiliation with BHA. If he did in fact call trump supporters American ISIS I hope everyone writes weatherby tells them to stop their affiliation with meateater.

So you have done nothing. I thought so.

No a surprise as little as you actually hunt.

Ha. Almost as bad as CNN

Calmdumb

Outed again as anti hunting anti gun Keehunt



Like most guys on here
I did more conservation work by the age of 18 in the RGS, TU, RMEF, MDF, DU, BSA , 4H... then you you’ve done your entire life

Typical empty headed virtue signaling BHA dbag drinking crappy IPA,s at pub night and accomplishing zero lmao


I see BHA’s new hero states on her site she want to abolish the NRA and ban and confiscate firearms. No wonder you love this crazy unqualified lady who never had a job and even pay her taxes

Go burn more Dr Seuss books, make you feel better

Federal is branding some of the shotshell Meateater just saw some 3" 20 ga. 1 1/8 oz bismuth 2's 25 rd box 62.99 a box. Unfrigging believable to me why anyone would pay that M mb

Ah look BHA bitch boy is here.. You are ph ucking Fudd.. I tell everyone what a ph ucked up organization BHA is along with its anti gun members.

Reba outed as a do nothing old fugg.

Try actually hunting sometime.

Beta males are generally to frail to do much, remember that plowed snow road you were scared of? LOL

I saved a pic of that somewhere, we all had a good laugh.

BHA loves the gun bans

https://debforcongress.com/priority/gun-reform/

BHA is such a joke. Look what they support

https://blog.humanesociety.org/2021...cord-of-fierce-advocacy-for-animals.html

Please tell us about those AR15’s you own? Or Glock pistols? Are you against concealed carry as well like everyone else in your beloved organization?

In what episode did Steve say that?

Cal dumb is too busy working with BHA to get hunting shutdown on federal lands

Only 1 AR Bushmaster Predator that has killed more coyotes then you have seen, 3 Glocks 1- 9mm, 2 -40s, 1 Kimber 380, 1 Springfield 40, and an ancient Ruger 9 that is about worn out, you?

Sorry boomer you asked. LOL

https://www.reddit.com/r/meateatert...edium=&utm_content=comments_view_all


Here’s Rinella attacking Don jr for a legal sheep hunt in Mongolia

Ironic as Don jr is a huge public land hunting advocate

BHA loves this gal

https://debforcongress.com/priority/gun-reform/

And she wants open borders and to abolish ICE

https://debforcongress.com/priority/immigration/

Calls2cum is nothing but a little bitch troll.

Isn't that just a Reddit site about the show?

most reddit pages are not actually affiliated with the subject. Anyone can post to reddit and I highly doubt Rinella wastes his time on that site.

I very much agree. This "make everything political" thing is just another divide and conquer tactic by the left. Don't let this bullchit occupy your brain while you could spend time thinking about how you can improve your life and the lives of those around you, be it through political activity or anything else. Just don't spend time thinking "does this actor think the same about minorities/guns/taxes/war/... as me" and "am I still allowed to like his movies". That's petty bullchit.

I'm thinking you have NOTHING. PLEASE prove me wrong, my money is that you've got shiet.

All I need is my pa pa 30-30 and a single shot shotgun I’m ready to be a member of BHA.... don’t let your BHA bros know you own a AR15 they won’t be happy. Also don’t let Ryan Busse know you own them firearms.. He will be super upset with you