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to Marine Corps and Navy bases, forbidden
to possess firearms in the U.S.


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Foreign troops training at Marine Corps installations in the U.S. who have personal firearms will need to store them in a base armory, ship them back home, or properly dispose of them, the service announced this week. (Airman 1st Class Javier Alvarez/Air Force)

24 Feb 2020
Military.com | By Gina Harkins

The Navy and Marine Corps will prohibit foreign troops from buying and carrying personal weapons as the military continues rolling out new restrictions after a Saudi officer carried out a terrorist attack on a U.S. military base.

International service members training with sailors and Marines at bases in the U.S. or its territories face a host of new rules on personally owned firearms and ammunition, the services announced last week. The restrictions also apply to foreign troops' family members accompanying them.

Foreign troops assigned to Navy and Marine Corps bases, regardless of their country of origin, will be prohibited from possessing, storing, using, transporting, carrying, purchasing, selling or transferring personally owned firearms, weapon components or ammunition, the new policies state.

All international military students will have to sign agreements on the new rules or risk getting booted out of the U.S. Those training with the Navy must do so by April 15 and those training with Marines by May 1.

International troops' family members over the age of 18 must also sign the agreements.

"Failure to do so will result in immediate expulsion from training or school, and orders generated for immediate transfer back to their home country, to include accompanying family members," the Marine Corps' message states.

Foreign service members and their families will have no access to personally owned weapons or ammunition "until after returning to their home country," according to the Navy's policy.

The new restrictions are part of a Pentagon-wide review of security measures following a Dec. 6 shooting on a Navy base in Pensacola, Florida. A Saudi officer training there lawfully purchased a semiautomatic handgun with an extended magazine through a hunting-license loophole.

The exception allows non-immigrant visa holders who otherwise are not permitted to buy firearms or ammunition to purchase them if they have a valid state-issued hunting license permit or other required documentation, David Bowdich, deputy director of the FBI, said last month.

The Saudi lieutenant used the weapon he bought to open fire on a classroom, killing three sailors and injuring several more.

International students who were previously given permission to carry their own weapons and ammunition will have to transfer them to a base armory or other authorized officials for the duration of their assignment, ship them to someone outside the U.S., or dispose of them in accordance with local policies and laws.

The new rules won't apply to government-issued firearms and ammunition foreign troops use while under the supervision of the Navy or Marine Corps as they train, the messages add.

Acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly on Jan. 31 instructed the Navy and Marine Corps to update their policies prohibiting foreign troops from carrying their own weapons.

This is the third update the Marine Corps has made to base security in the wake of the Pensacola shooting. Earlier this month, the Marine Corps announced that foreign troops will be allowed to access only the base to which they are assigned. Previous policy allowed international military students to move between bases more freely.

The Marine Corps also recently announced it would allow about 3,000 law enforcement personnel to carry concealed weapons on base, even when off duty.
Bout time.
Yes, and EVERY AMERICAN service person should be carrying an issued sidearm at all times on base, foreign or domestic.
Sure, but can't they just go to an ffl and buy? Unless the BATFE sends out a direction otherwise.
MAGA
The military already treats their own people that way. Why shouldn't foreign troops from enemy Muzz nations (yes, Saudi Arabia is the heart of enemy Muzz nations) be treated with any less scrutiny?
We should not be training any foreign nationals, anywhere, any time.
Originally Posted by DigitalDan
We should not be training any foreign nationals, anywhere, any time.


What he said.
Originally Posted by mirage243
Originally Posted by DigitalDan
We should not be training any foreign nationals, anywhere, any time.


What he said.


They need training to use/maintain the military gear we sell them.

We could stop selling the stuff, but our economy would take a hit, and the Russians would pick up the business and probably military alliance.
Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
........the Russians would pick up the business and probably military alliance.


That’s the important part. Not so much the business but the military alliance part. Bottom line is training their pilots keeps them beholden to us and that’s critical. We do NOT want the Russians filling that role.
Originally Posted by g5m
Sure, but can't they just go to an ffl and buy? Unless the BATFE sends out a direction otherwise.

Not legally, no.
Get rid of the foreign troops.
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Get rid of the foreign troops.




This!!!!
Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
Originally Posted by mirage243
Originally Posted by DigitalDan
We should not be training any foreign nationals, anywhere, any time.


What he said.


They need training to use/maintain the military gear we sell them.

We could stop selling the stuff, but our economy would take a hit, and the Russians would pick up the business and probably military alliance.


Fug the M.I. Complex. We have nothing to gain and everything to lose by bringing ferringies of unknown allegiance here and teaching them our strategies and tactics....or arranging for them a target rich envoirnment.
Yep.
Companies want to sell it, they can provide the training on the visitor's turf, not the home field... after DOD/Congress approval.
Plenty of folks ready and willing to make bank as Expat/TDY trainers and advisors.

Keep everything away from our team's locker rooms.
Originally Posted by Crow hunter
Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
........the Russians would pick up the business and probably military alliance.


That’s the important part. Not so much the business but the military alliance part. Bottom line is training their pilots keeps them beholden to us and that’s critical. We do NOT want the Russians filling that role.


And REALLY REALLY don't want China filling that role.
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Yes, and EVERY AMERICAN service person should be carrying an issued sidearm at all times on base, foreign or domestic.

That won't happen due to the cost. I am not saying it's a bad idea, just it won't happen.
If a raghead wants to shoot up something on a military base, prohibiting guns won't stop him any more than it stops school shooters. The only fix is to make sure all the potential targets are armed.
Originally Posted by WTM45
Yep.
Companies want to sell it, they can provide the training on the visitor's turf, not the home field... after DOD/Congress approval.
Plenty of folks ready and willing to make bank as Expat/TDY trainers and advisors.

Keep everything away from our team's locker rooms.


This
Originally Posted by DigitalDan
We have nothing to gain and everything to lose by bringing ferringies of unknown allegiance here and teaching them our strategies and tactics....or arranging for them a target rich envoirnment.

Ferringies?
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Originally Posted by g5m
Sure, but can't they just go to an ffl and buy? Unless the BATFE sends out a direction otherwise.

Don't know how non-citizens buy guns. Is it legal under current BATFE regs?
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Yes, and EVERY AMERICAN service person should be carrying an issued sidearm at all times on base, foreign or domestic.

Yeah, look at how the Army handled Ft. Hood, vs. how Israeli forces handle such things.

Big difference.

First of all, the Israelis wouldn't have a hostile, known jihadist as an officer.

P.C. will get ya killed.

DF

Obama and his sycophantic supporters must be really pissed that their Muslims can't go on another murder spree as easily.
Originally Posted by DigitalDan
We should not be training any foreign nationals, anywhere, any time.

Amen to that!
Originally Posted by OSU_Sig
Originally Posted by g5m
Sure, but can't they just go to an ffl and buy? Unless the BATFE sends out a direction otherwise.

Don't know how non-citizens buy guns. Is it legal under current BATFE regs?


Just a couple of days ago I discussed this with a Canadian friend who shoots with us at our club. He told me he couldn't buy a firearm down here unless he had a Green Card.
pretty ball-less law that assumes a murderer will obey the law.
We have lots of US born Muzzies. This isn’t going to do S hit to stop them.
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