I think, as many others, were due for a big recession.

Im trying to pick up some commodities stocks, picked up good dividend oil stocks a few weeks ago, buy into more good dividend stocks in upcoming downmarket (merck, Coca Cola, Johnson and Johnson), will probably get some gold stocks in near future. Probably transfer 50 per cent of investments into a good bond fund. when interest rates rise.Obviously have all debts paid off. Sold house waiting for a dip in realestate market to buy land and hopefully build own house. The area I live now is pretty expensive due to influx of Californians with cash.

Any other suggestions?

I think there will be a hole in the food supply chain later this year and next.

I'm just keeping the investments I have. You can't time the market. The market has already discounted the fact that there is going to be a recession.

two stocked chest freezers full of fish and game

I went to the liquor store and stocked up last night.

I think you about have it covered. I won't be changing my investments. But we have an emergency fund set back, some cash on hand, non-perishable food stuff and household stuff set back, keeping the fuel tanks in your vehicle full, staying out of debt or reducing debt, ect. It also would be a good idea to tighten up on security and increase your level of awareness.

Oh yeah, I have a decent beer and liquor stash.

It is gonna get tough I believe. We have plenty food for now! There will be lots of things for sale before long!

Possible? It's a certainty from what I'm hearing.

Forgot to mention have at least 6 months living expenses. Covered for security and recently moved to a very safe homogenous semi rural area. Going to can more this summer. Buy a few extra doe tags.

I know its going to happen but can't prove it. All the signs and conditions and the recent 2 trillion in relief package pretty much guaranteed it.

Yes you can.....the millions going on unemployment. Hasn't happened at that level since 1980's, and it's going deeper. You can't throw a boat anchor out on the economy, like they have, and it shutter business, without carnage in the wake. I don't like typing, and seeing it in print, but it's fact we have to face, and you have to stay strong, to be leaders in your communities.

People will refuse to believe it is happening, but you have to push through that, and plan for the worse, so you can get as much long-term storage supplies, now, while they are available.

And the next 2 trillion stimulus is already in the works.

i gotten all kinds of calls for the last few days for work.

no one has has accurately predicted our economy one hundred per cent. Just try and have a back up plan for the worst instead of living pay check to pay check and going out to eat every day and buying new trucks and boats etc

I don't know. I know that when this Corona schitt passes, manufacturers are going to crank up hard.

I'm no economist but I can understand lots of businesses may be hurting now......but I agree with Bristoe that when things settle down lots of producers are really going to produce.

I'm not sure how long it will take for this stuff to settle down....hopefully spring/summer will help end it quicker. Long, slow, drawn out will really hurt......

Never chase stocks that pay a dividend! They're not all that they seem.

planning 50 to 60 per cent dividend stocks of a diversified portfolio. Can reallocate as conditions change .

They will but will consumers have money to purchase in 3 months at same rate as before virus? That is the question. Concerned that some percentage of current lay offs could be permanent.

I don't know. Eating out everyday and buying new trucks sounds perfect. And paycheck to paycheck is business as usual.

I can’t imagine that the consumer confidence or willingness to purchase on credit will miraculously rebound to the same level as January ‘20. I think this thing takes a while to play out - and some things are headed for a “new normal” I’m afraid.

Everybody is talking about a new normal. Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck are even uttering the "depression" word.

I like to keep a few thousand ounces of silver just as an emergency fund or insurance against a currency collapse. I used to buy mostly eagles, maple leafs, and Philharmonics, but the last few years I've liked mercury dimes and walking liberty halves. Most people recognize them as silver and they would be easy to make change. The premiums in the stuff is crazy high right now and who knows when it will come down.

I say the time to pay off debt was the last few years. Right now don't spend on anything but necessities and keep some cash ready for deals. If you have money in retirement accounts use that to pick up some good solid stocks and or funds bit by bit as it drops. I think it may still drop more before it's done. I'm still thinking of buys as the dow hits 18k, 16k, 14k, and maybe even 12k if it gets there. Who knows maybe it won't drop again but once the virus levels off I'll probably put the retirement money in something.

My health has been on the decline for several years and Drs told me I wouldn't be able to work much longer so I started getting out of debt years ago and kicked it to high gear about 2014. Fortunately we have our house paid off and vehicles paid off. I regret spending savings to put solar on our home last year but I got a big tax credit and now our power bill is almost nothing except mid winter and then its substantially lower. Right now I think I'd rather have the cash.

Bb

They will still spend and borrow money.

Bet that they get the insurance on the loan as well.

Betting a lot more credit card use before this clears up

The average balance on a credit card is now almost $6,200, and the typical American holds four credit cards, according to the credit bureau Experian. Credit card issuers are also giving Americans more room to run up debt, boosting the typical credit limit by 20% over the last decade to $31,000.Feb 12, 2020

The average balance on a credit card is now almost $6,200, and the typical American holds four credit cards, according to the credit bureau Experian. Credit card issuers are also giving Americans more room to run up debt, boosting the typical credit limit by 20% over the last decade to $31,000.Feb 12, 2020

I'm WAYYYYYY below average and the people I know are as well. Never come close to that.

Ribka,
Absolutely true. I was thinking more along the lines of discretionary / non essential items, but failed to specify that.
Thanks.

yep. I think the discretionary item manufacturers will take a big hit. Should have been more specific in my post

We are already in a recession, how long and how deep is the question. I think we will be down 30%, and it's going to be 6 months long. But full recovery will take 2-3 years. This corona thing is going to linger for another 12-18 months before we get a vaccine, The next 2-3 months are going to be wild on wall street while we sort this out.

I'm thinking Johnson and Johnson and Proctor and Gamble are pretty safe bets. They may go down and maybe even cut their dividend for a while but when they come back it will be gang busters. IN other words, some dividend stocks are going to do better than others.

kwg

Im waiting to pick up more. Think the prices will drop with this quarter's earning reports come out or already factor into price?

Obviously a lot of companies are reducing their dividends temporarily which doesn't concern me. Long term is my concern.

He who controls the most toilet paper will be king. (Used to be .22 rimfire bricks.)

Not true. Went in to Wally World today, lo and behold they had TP, paper towels, bottled water, bleach, lunch meat, frozen pizzas, them gawd awful TV dinners, beef and pig, veggies basically it wasn’t quite normal but pretty close. To my total amazement they had bricks of 22 LR on the shelf for 17.99. Sams club and local grocery chain was even better except for the 22’s. What shortage?

One of the problems of "investing" in toilet paper is most American households are already crammed full of, um, schidt. Most don't have room for a lot of fluffy paper....

You need to adjust your budget.

The mice love that schit.....

Interesting.
I rarely do any in store shopping, but wife is away for awhile. Went to Walmart tdy and place was quite busy. Lots of tp, hamburger and other necessities. I did not notice any empty shelves. So it seemed business as usual, at least for that brief glimpse. Lots could happen yet.

And lots of it for sale will be toys, Hanco.

4 guys have already said that they won’t be renewing this coming year in the deer lease, others wanting to sell their shooting houses. Three want to sell their camps.

Sign of the present times but even this, too, will pass.