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Link: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/index.htm

Some interesting numbers here for those that are willing to dig. Also, note the reporting criteria for covid.
Things that jump out to me -

For the time periods reported, less Americans are dying than last year overall.
Flu cases jumped ~900 off of the average as Covid cases jumped up to ~700.
The reporting guidelines do not require a positive test. If you look at the WHO guidance, Covid should be listed not as the main cause but as contributing in any case where suspected. Where are the numbers from our daily shock headlines coming from?
my suspicion is that any pneumonia,flu,acute cold ....etc, is going to be classified as covid when it comes to the body count.
Until we have the capacity to test for acute illness and test those who have recovered, drama, fear and political posturing will rule.

How long it takes to get there is how long this is gonna last. Could be a while.

DF
this. hold on a bit longer.
Why? What is really happening here?
Posted By: BLRNut Re: CDC Covid reporting numbers - 04/05/20
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At Last a RATIONAL comment concerning the IDIOTIC conditions related Covid.

As a 40 yr teacher of Epidemiology I applaud you for going to a recognized reliable data source.
Originally Posted by AKA_Spook
my suspicion is that any pneumonia,flu,acute cold ....etc, is going to be classified as covid when it comes to the body count.


PREZACTLY!!!
Very interesting data, indeed.
The libs at the CDC stole it from the Italians.

Everbody was freakin out bout the Italy statistics, and the Italians got pissed and pointed out that just about everbody that dies there was classified as dyin from Covid.

3 days later, the CDC issued its directions to doctors to classify everbody that dies as dyin from Covid, even with no test.

Since that time, "pneumonia" deaths have been down from average about 8-900 per day, and Covid deaths have been up 8-900 per day.

They're stealin dead bodies to fuel the hysteria.

ETA: Saw RNM had already posted the same numbers. Sry bout that.
Originally Posted by Fubarski
The libs at the CDC stole it from the Italians.

Everbody was freakin out bout the Italy statistics, and the Italians got pissed and pointed out that just about everbody that dies there was classified as dyin from Covid.

3 days later, the CDC issued its directions to doctors to classify everbody that dies as dyin from Covid, even with no test.

Since that time, "pneumonia" deaths have been down from average about 8-900 per day, and Covid deaths have been up 8-900 per day.

They're stealin dead bodies to fuel the hysteria.


Yep!!!
Posted By: LazyV Re: CDC Covid reporting numbers - 04/05/20
Originally Posted by Fubarski
The libs at the CDC stole it from the Italians.

Everbody was freakin out bout the Italy statistics, and the Italians got pissed and pointed out that just about everbody that dies there was classified as dyin from Covid.

3 days later, the CDC issued its directions to doctors to classify everbody that dies as dyin from Covid, even with no test.

Since that time, "pneumonia" deaths have been down from average about 8-900 per day, and Covid deaths have been up 8-900 per day.

They're stealin dead bodies to fuel the hysteria.

ETA: Saw RNM had already posted the same numbers. Sry bout that.


Have any links to support any of that? Or was this more of the stuff the purple elephant in the corner told you?
Originally Posted by puzzyV
Originally Posted by Fubarski
The libs at the CDC stole it from the Italians.

Everbody was freakin out bout the Italy statistics, and the Italians got pissed and pointed out that just about everbody that dies there was classified as dyin from Covid.

3 days later, the CDC issued its directions to doctors to classify everbody that dies as dyin from Covid, even with no test.

Since that time, "pneumonia" deaths have been down from average about 8-900 per day, and Covid deaths have been up 8-900 per day.

They're stealin dead bodies to fuel the hysteria.

ETA: Saw RNM had already posted the same numbers. Sry bout that.


Have any links to support any of that? Or was this more of the stuff the purple elephant in the corner told you?


RNM's link has the info.
From the CDC’s web sight:

“* Data include both confirmed and presumptive positive cases of COVID-19 reported to CDC or tested at CDC since January 21, 2020,”

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

PRESUMTIVE means they are Fuqking GUESSING!!!
Of course they’re guessing.
Posted By: LazyV Re: CDC Covid reporting numbers - 04/05/20
The part as classifying everybody who dies, as having dies from covid. You make it sound as if every death in America is being classified as covid, even a heart attack or getting shot in the head. That link is talking about provisional labeling and subject to testing to confirm.
If Jesse James had actually robbed all the banks and trains he was accused of robbing... he would not have needed to rob banks and trains.
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
If Jesse James had actually robbed all the banks and trains he was accused of robbing... he would not have needed to rob banks and trains.


PREZACTLY!!!
Will COVID-19 be the underlying cause?
The underlying cause depends upon what and where conditions are reported on the death certificate.
However, the rules for coding and selection of the underlying cause of death are expected to result in COVID19 being the underlying cause more often than not."

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/...-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdf

The CDC is sayin, if there's any possible way ta call it Covid, call it Covid.

Sanity is out the window.
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Will COVID-19 be the underlying cause?
The underlying cause depends upon what and where conditions are reported on the death certificate.
However, the rules for coding and selection of the underlying cause of death are expected to result in COVID19 being the underlying cause more often than not."

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/...-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdf

The CDC is sayin, if there's any possible way ta call it Covid, call it Covid.

Sanity is out the window.


Yep!!!
Posted By: LazyV Re: CDC Covid reporting numbers - 04/05/20
You look hard enough for conspiracies you’ll find something to support that mindset, doesn’t mean there’s actually a conspiracy. No different really then an ME making a preliminary cause of death determination and having to modify it once all their tests and autopsy are complete.

Again, the executive branch, medical community and media have a massive conspiracy going and you figured it out...
When they spell out the nature and extent of the conspiracy, there's no doubt about the objective.

And the CDC also directs that, even if there's no test at all, the presumption is Covid.

"What happens if the terms reported on the death certificate indicate uncertainty?

If the death certificate reports terms such as “probable COVID-19” or “likely COVID-19,” these terms would be
assigned the new ICD code. It Is not likely that NCHS will follow up on these cases."

IOW, liberal Doc, say anything you want and you'll never get called on it.
Posted By: LazyV Re: CDC Covid reporting numbers - 04/05/20
I get what you’re saying, my point is there are other reasonable causes of the problem and that’s before you factor in general bureaucratic inefficiency.
Posted By: LazyV Re: CDC Covid reporting numbers - 04/05/20
But again, you wouldn’t be fubarski if you didn’t jump straight to the most unlikely, widespread conspiracy possible.
Originally Posted by LazyV
But again, you wouldn’t be fubarski if you didn’t jump straight to the most unlikely, widespread conspiracy possible.


If you ever come across an actual fact, that would refute or even tend to refute what I've posted and supported, feel free to throw it on out here.

Don't be shy.

You may need this, ta get started:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fact
Posted By: LazyV Re: CDC Covid reporting numbers - 04/05/20
Thanks, found one in there that reminded me of ya

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/narcissistic%20personality%20disorder

I’ll take the educated guesses of drs at this early stage then the opinions of some guy in the internet who won’t answer simple questions any time he’s asked. Thanks for playing
Bet you was the captain of the debate team, in prison.
Posted By: LazyV Re: CDC Covid reporting numbers - 04/05/20
You go to the prison thing a lot, they need to update your coding. It’s getting worn out. In you experience what is the best material to use to build the breathing tube allowing you to live with your head up your own ass all the time?
Originally Posted by LazyV
You go to the prison thing a lot, they need to update your coding. It’s getting worn out. In you experience what is the best material to use to build the breathing tube allowing you to live with your head up your own ass all the time?


You'll hafta google it, but there's no doubt why you'd need the information.

Good luck in your search.
Posted By: LazyV Re: CDC Covid reporting numbers - 04/05/20
I got lost looking but this reminded me think of you for some reason.

ABC Evening News Reporting 9000 Dead now in the USA.

Also claiming the Death Rate in NY declined for the first time, but increased in Louisiana. Specially New Orleans.

Of course, they are not reporting the number that died that had significant pre-existing Health Problems.

Or the numbers that did not test positive but were “presumed”to have CV-19.

I still think 240K Dead is a number Fauci pulled outtta his ass.
Looking back, Mardi Gras was a huge mistake, but who knew.

20/20 hindsight.

DF
Here’s the latest numbers according to FOX News:

“In the U.S., all 50 states plus the District of Columbia have reported confirmed cases of COVID-19, tallying over 368,449 illnesses and at least 10,993 deaths.”

Again, NY has 131,830 cases and 4758 deaths. So almost half of the cases and half of the deaths.....

You guessed it. New York.

Coronavirus in the US: State-by-state breakdown

https://www.foxnews.com/health/coronavirus-in-us-state-by-state-breakdown

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Oh. 31 cases here in our largest regional County. 1 death.
A lady with severe health problems.
Almost 500K cases nationwide today. 12911 deaths.
Death rate NOT growing exponentially like they predicted.
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