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MSM tries to make Trump a loose cannon. He has advisors. He doesn't just
think policy up on his own. Media induced panic won't put a democrat in the White House,
only massive democrat voter fraud can do that.
Should be required reading by every medical professional.
I just finished reading it

it got my attention
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I read it and then tried to open it a second time to send it to friends. Is the link working for everyone ?
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It’s not just removed it’s being blocked. I try to open it with the link that opened earlier in my history and it flash appears in the address box then it disappears and it’s like I’ve just opened my browser with a blank address box not a message that it can’t be opened or didn’t respond. Then just a moment before I wrote this I opened my history to try again and it has been deleted from my history somehow. Big brother doesn’t want you to see that article !
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Covid-19 had us all fooled, but now we might have finally found its secret.
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In the last 3–5 days, a mountain of anecdotal evidence has come out of NYC, Italy, Spain, etc. about COVID-19 and characteristics of patients who get seriously ill. It’s not only piling up but now leading to a general field-level consensus backed up by a few previously little-known studies that we’ve had it all wrong the whole time. Well, a few had some things eerily correct (cough Trump cough), especially with Hydroxychloroquine with Azithromicin, but we’ll get to that in a minute.
There is no ‘pneumonia’ nor ARDS. At least not the ARDS with established treatment protocols and procedures we’re familiar with. Ventilators are not only the wrong solution, but high pressure intubation can actually wind up causing more damage than without, not to mention complications from tracheal scarring and ulcers given the duration of intubation often required… They may still have a use in the immediate future for patients too far to bring back with this newfound knowledge, but moving forward a new treatment protocol needs to be established so we stop treating patients for the wrong disease.
The past 48 hours or so have seen a huge revelation: COVID-19 causes prolonged and progressive hypoxia (starving your body of oxygen) by binding to the heme groups in hemoglobin in your red blood cells. People are simply desaturating (losing o2 in their blood), and that’s what eventually leads to organ failures that kill them, not any form of ARDS or pneumonia. All the damage to the lungs you see in CT scans are from the release of oxidative iron from the hemes, this overwhelms the natural defenses against pulmonary oxidative stress and causes that nice, always-bilateral ground glass opacity in the lungs. Patients returning for re-hospitalization days or weeks after recovery suffering from apparent delayed post-hypoxic leukoencephalopathy strengthen the notion COVID-19 patients are suffering from hypoxia despite no signs of respiratory ‘tire out’ or fatigue.
Here’s the breakdown of the whole process, including some ELI5-level cliff notes. Much has been simplified just to keep it digestible and layman-friendly.
Your red blood cells carry oxygen from your lungs to all your organs and the rest of your body. Red blood cells can do this thanks to hemoglobin, which is a protein consisting of four “hemes”. Hemes have a special kind of iron ion, which is normally quite toxic in its free form, locked away in its center with a porphyrin acting as it’s ‘container’. In this way, the iron ion can be ‘caged’ and carried around safely by the hemoglobin, but used to bind to oxygen when it gets to your lungs.
When the red blood cell gets to the alveoli, or the little sacs in your lungs where all the gas exchange happens, that special little iron ion can flip between FE2+ and FE3+ states with electron exchange and bond to some oxygen, then it goes off on its little merry way to deliver o2 elsewhere.
Here’s where COVID-19 comes in. Its glycoproteins bond to the heme, and in doing so that special and toxic oxidative iron ion is “disassociated” (released). It’s basically let out of the cage and now freely roaming around on its own. This is bad for two reasons:
1) Without the iron ion, hemoglobin can no longer bind to oxygen. Once all the hemoglobin is impaired, the red blood cell is essentially turned into a Freightliner truck cab with no trailer and no ability to store its cargo.. it is useless and just running around with COVID-19 virus attached to its porphyrin. All these useless trucks running around not delivering oxygen is what starts to lead to desaturation, or watching the patient’s spo2 levels drop. It is INCORRECT to assume traditional ARDS and in doing so, you’re treating the WRONG DISEASE. Think of it a lot like carbon monoxide poisoning, in which CO is bound to the hemoglobin, making it unable to carry oxygen. In those cases, ventilators aren’t treating the root cause; the patient’s lungs aren’t ‘tiring out’, they’re pumping just fine. The red blood cells just can’t carry o2, end of story. Only in this case, unlike CO poisoning in which eventually the CO can break off, the affected hemoglobin is permanently stripped of its ability to carry o2 because it has lost its iron ion. The body compensates for this lack of o2 carrying capacity and deliveries by having your kidneys release hormones like erythropoietin, which tell your bone marrow factories to ramp up production on new red blood cells with freshly made and fully functioning hemoglobin. This is the reason you find elevated hemoglobin and decreased blood oxygen saturation as one of the 3 primary indicators of whether the [bleep] is about to hit the fan for a particular patient or not.
2) That little iron ion, along with millions of its friends released from other hemes, are now floating through your blood freely. As I mentioned before, this type of iron ion is highly reactive and causes oxidative damage. It turns out that this happens to a limited extent naturally in our bodies and we have cleanup & defense mechanisms to keep the balance. The lungs, in particular, have 3 primary defenses to maintain “iron homeostasis”, 2 of which are in the alveoli, those little sacs in your lungs we talked about earlier. The first of the two are little macrophages that roam around and scavenge up any free radicals like this oxidative iron. The second is a lining on the walls (called the epithelial surface) which has a thin layer of fluid packed with high levels of antioxidant molecules.. things like abscorbic acid (AKA Vitamin C) among others. Well, this is usually good enough for naturally occurring rogue iron ions but with COVID-19 running rampant your body is now basically like a progressive state letting out all the prisoners out of the prisons… it’s just too much iron and it begins to overwhelm your lungs’ countermeasures, and thus begins the process of pulmonary oxidative stress. This leads to damage and inflammation, which leads to all that nasty stuff and damage you see in CT scans of COVID-19 patient lungs. Ever noticed how it’s always bilateral? (both lungs at the same time) Pneumonia rarely ever does that, but COVID-19 does… EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.
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Once your body is now running out of control, with all your oxygen trucks running around without any freight, and tons of this toxic form of iron floating around in your bloodstream, other defenses kick in. While your lungs are busy with all this oxidative stress they can’t handle, and your organs are being starved of o2 without their constant stream of deliveries from red blood cell’s hemoglobin, and your liver is attempting to do its best to remove the iron and store it in its ‘iron vault’. Only its getting overwhelmed too. It’s starved for oxygen and fighting a losing battle from all your hemoglobin letting its iron free, and starts crying out “help, I’m taking damage!” by releasing an enzyme called alanine aminotransferase (ALT). BOOM, there is your second of 3 primary indicators of whether the [bleep] is about to hit the fan for a particular patient or not.
Eventually, if the patient’s immune system doesn’t fight off the virus in time before their blood oxygen saturation drops too low, ventilator or no ventilator, organs start shutting down. No fuel, no work. The only way to even try to keep them going is max oxygen, even a hyperbaric chamber if one is available on 100% oxygen at multiple atmospheres of pressure, just to give what’s left of their functioning hemoglobin a chance to carry enough o2 to the organs and keep them alive. Yeah we don’t have nearly enough of those chambers, so some fresh red blood cells with normal hemoglobin in the form of a transfusion will have to do.
The core point being, treating patients with the iron ions stripped from their hemoglobin (rendering it abnormally nonfunctional) with ventilator intubation is futile, unless you’re just hoping the patient’s immune system will work its magic in time. The root of the illness needs to be addressed.
Best case scenario? Treatment regimen early, before symptoms progress too far. Hydroxychloroquine (more on that in a minute, I promise) with Azithromicin has shown fantastic, albeit critics keep mentioning ‘anecdotal’ to describe the mountain, promise and I’ll explain why it does so well next. But forget straight-up plasma with antibodies, that might work early but if the patient is too far gone they’ll need more. They’ll need all the blood: antibodies and red blood cells. No help in sending over a detachment of ammunition to a soldier already unconscious and bleeding out on the battlefield, you need to send that ammo along with some hemoglobin-stimulant-magic so that he can wake up and fire those shots at the enemy.
The story with Hydroxychloroquine
All that hilariously misguided and counterproductive criticism the media piled on chloroquine (purely for political reasons) as a viable treatment will now go down as the biggest Fake News blunder to rule them all. The media actively engaged their activism to fight ‘bad orange man’ at the cost of thousands of lives. Shame on them.
How does chloroquine work? Same way as it does for malaria. You see, malaria is this little parasite that enters the red blood cells and starts eating hemoglobin as its food source. The reason chloroquine works for malaria is the same reason it works for COVID-19 — while not fully understood, it is suspected to bind to DNA and interfere with the ability to work magic on hemoglobin. The same mechanism that stops malaria from getting its hands on hemoglobin and gobbling it up seems to do the same to COVID-19 (essentially little snippets of DNA in an envelope) from binding to it. On top of that, Hydroxychloroquine (an advanced descendant of regular old chloroquine) lowers the pH which can interfere with the replication of the virus. Again, while the full details are not known, the entire premise of this potentially ‘game changing’ treatment is to prevent hemoglobin from being interfered with, whether due to malaria or COVID-19.
No longer can the media and armchair pseudo-physicians sit in their little ivory towers, proclaiming “DUR so stoopid, malaria is bacteria, COVID-19 is virus, anti-bacteria drug no work on virus!”. They never got the memo that a drug doesn’t need to directly act on the pathogen to be effective. Sometimes it’s enough just to stop it from doing what it does to hemoglobin, regardless of the means it uses to do so.
Anyway, enough of the rant. What’s the end result here? First, the ventilator emergency needs to be re-examined. If you’re putting a patient on a ventilator because they’re going into a coma and need mechanical breathing to stay alive, okay we get it. Give ’em time for their immune systems to pull through. But if they’re conscious, alert, compliant — keep them on O2. Max it if you have to. If you HAVE to inevitably ventilate, do it at low pressure but max O2. Don’t tear up their lungs with max PEEP, you’re doing more harm to the patient because you’re treating the wrong disease.
Ideally, some form of treatment needs to happen to:
Inhibit viral growth and replication. Here plays CHQ+ZPAK+ZINC or other retroviral therapies being studies. Less virus, less hemoglobin losing its iron, less severity and damage.
Therapies used for anyone with abnormal hemoglobin or malfunctioning red blood cells. Blood transfusions. Whatever, I don’t know the full breadth and scope because I’m not a physician. But think along those lines, and treat the real disease. If you’re thinking about giving them plasma with antibodies, maybe if they’re already in bad shape think again and give them BLOOD with antibodies, or at least blood followed by plasma with antibodies.
Now that we know more about how this virus works and affects our bodies, a whole range of options should open up.
Don’t trust China. China is ASSHOE. (disclaimer: not talking about the people, just talking about the regime). They covered this up and have caused all kinds of death and carnage, both literal and economic. The ripples of this pandemic will be felt for decades.
Originally Posted by Daveinjax
it has been deleted from my history somehow. Big brother doesn’t want you to see that article !


You people are hilarious.
Originally Posted by Snyper
This worked for me.
https://archive.is/ONUmi

Thanks ! I copied and pasted it here so if that link gets cut we have it.
It's just the flu.........Nothing to worry about.
I sent this to Jag yesterday, here's a DIFFERENT LINK

And yes, even though the possible BullSchiet flag has been flown, it has been removed from different site's for some reason.
CYA.


Anyone can publish on Medium per our Policies, but we don’t fact-check every story. For more info about the coronavirus, see cdc.gov.
This is possibly where libertymavenstock got his info. Link
Buy and drink diet tonic water. Hydrate and keep the virus from getting to you. Mix with gin if you want a little bump.
Just so y’all know, Alex Jones was the first to post doctors with this theory
Read about what it does to the lungs a few days ago.

Might some form of blood filtering work to get rid of those pesky virus? whistle
Originally Posted by Docbill
Buy and drink diet tonic water. Hydrate and keep the virus from getting to you. Mix with gin if you want a little bump.


What does diet tonic water do for you?
Supplies quinene. It interupts the viral infection of cells just as hydrocloriquine does only you don't need a perscription to get it.
Peter Navarro, one of Donald Trump's closest friends and trade advisor, warned Trump of the high potential of a Pandemic in January; his warning was ignored. The Administration's lack of concern cost the US 2.5 months of preparation and stockpiling.


see: https://www.axios.com/exclusive-nav...a3f08fb-dce1-4f69-89b5-ea048f8382a9.html
Originally Posted by 280shooter

This one works fine.
No author or references? Hmmm...

All in on the tonic with gin. Big fan of this sort of preventive medicine. Even if there is no virus.
Originally Posted by djs
Peter Navarro, one of Donald Trump's closest friends and trade advisor, warned Trump of the high potential of a Pandemic in January; his warning was ignored. The Administration's lack of concern cost the US 2.5 months of preparation and stockpiling.


see: https://www.axios.com/exclusive-nav...a3f08fb-dce1-4f69-89b5-ea048f8382a9.html


Please be honest. Had the "administration" reacted then as now, you and countless others would grouse about how it wasn't necessary to throttle the life out of the economy for such a trifling threat. Spare us your hindsight-informed tripe. People don't want to be led, until they want to be led - that's a concept that obviously escapes you and not Trump.
This source looks to be somewhat neutral, but I have no idea about their political proclivities. Note the mention of the liver enzyme, similar to article posted above.

https://bgr.com/2020/03/31/coronavirus-symptoms-3-signs-helps-ai-predict-severe-covid-19-cases/
Originally Posted by Docbill
Buy and drink diet tonic water.


Diet Tonic Shasta to be specific, if you believe these comments that Terry Davis added to the TempleOS code.

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Andrew Gaiziunas is the author.

You can read more about his medical expertise, years of treating ARDS, published work in critical care medicine, and role in the development of ECMO here -

https://www.linkedin.com/in/agaiziunas
Originally Posted by djs
Peter Navarro, one of Donald Trump's closest friends and trade advisor, warned Trump of the high potential of a Pandemic in January; his warning was ignored. The Administration's lack of concern cost the US 2.5 months of preparation and stockpiling.


see: https://www.axios.com/exclusive-nav...a3f08fb-dce1-4f69-89b5-ea048f8382a9.html

Your Progressive buddies called Trump a racist when he put travel bans into effect. Y'all can sod off.
Originally Posted by djs
Peter Navarro, one of Donald Trump's closest friends and trade advisor, warned Trump of the high potential of a Pandemic in January; his warning was ignored. The Administration's lack of concern cost the US 2.5 months of preparation and stockpiling.


see: https://www.axios.com/exclusive-nav...a3f08fb-dce1-4f69-89b5-ea048f8382a9.html




On March 26, The Daily Wire published an article centering on the Obama administration’s role in using and allegedly failing to replenish the federal stockpile of N95 masks.

“The Obama administration significantly depleted the federal stockpile of N95 respirator masks to deal with the H1N1 influenza outbreak in 2009 and never rebuilt the stockpile despite calls to do so,” the piece begins.

USA TODAY investigation:US never spent enough on emergency stockpile, former managers say

The article draws from the reporting of outlets including Bloomberg News and the Los Angeles Times. According to Bloomberg News, “after the H1N1 influenza outbreak in 2009, which triggered a nationwide shortage of masks and caused a 2- to 3-year backlog orders for the N95 variety, the stockpile distributed about three-quarters of its inventory and didn’t build back the supply.”

“After the swine flu epidemic in 2009, a safety-equipment industry association and a federally sponsored task force both recommended that depleted supplies of N95 respirator masks, which filter out airborne particles, be replenished by the stockpile,” the Los Angeles Times reported.

On Wednesday, President Donald Trump said during a press conference the country’s stockpile of personal protective equipment, including medical gear like N95 masks, is almost depleted.
Very interesting, hope it's true.

This was my favorite part, LOL: " Don’t trust China. China is ASSHOE"
Originally Posted by KFWA
I just finished reading it

it got my attention



+1
Originally Posted by JohnnyLoco
Just so y’all know, Alex Jones was the first to post doctors with this theory


That’s good news....
Originally Posted by djs
Peter Navarro, one of Donald Trump's closest friends and trade advisor, warned Trump of the high potential of a Pandemic in January; his warning was ignored. The Administration's lack of concern cost the US 2.5 months of preparation and stockpiling.


see: https://www.axios.com/exclusive-nav...a3f08fb-dce1-4f69-89b5-ea048f8382a9.html




Are you still here, little fawn? Amazing..

Probably not the place for you. Men talk here.

Laughing. smile
Originally Posted by djs
Peter Navarro, one of Donald Trump's closest friends and trade advisor, warned Trump of the high potential of a Pandemic in January; his warning was ignored. The Administration's lack of concern cost the US 2.5 months of preparation and stockpiling.


see: https://www.axios.com/exclusive-nav...a3f08fb-dce1-4f69-89b5-ea048f8382a9.html


China Dec 2019

This disease is not communicable between people

WHO a few days before Trump shut down travel to and from China

This disease is not communicable between people


GFO




Originally Posted by Daveinjax
Originally Posted by Snyper
This worked for me.
https://archive.is/ONUmi

Thanks ! I copied and pasted it here so if that link gets cut we have it.



Thanks Dave. I went back right after I posted, and it worked for me then, but not now.
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What does diet tonic water do for you?



Originally Posted by Docbill
Supplies quinene. It interupts the viral infection of cells just as hydrocloriquine does only you don't need a perscription to get it.


Called my primary cardiologist today. We made a deal a couple of years ago that I wouldn't start any new medication, vitamins, or supplements of any sort without consulting him first. In return he agrees to remain my cardiologist. I need a cardiologist because I ran into some fairly serious cardiac rhythm issues about 4 years ago.

Left a message on his cell around noon today about the tonic water, and that I intended to start on it unless he said different. I forgot it's his surgery day, but his office nurse called me within the hour. She said he left it up to me, but that the quinine in tonic water would do something or other to my "Q-T interval" and that he really preferred that I not.
I am chronically hypokalemic (low in potassium), and the nurse indicated that condition alone was enough threat to my Q-T interval. The cardiologist feels the the hypokalemia was the primary cause for my arrhythmia to start with.

I'm gonna leave medicine to the docs...
Originally Posted by djs
Peter Navarro, one of Donald Trump's closest friends and trade advisor, warned Trump of the high potential of a Pandemic in January; his warning was ignored. The Administration's lack of concern cost the US 2.5 months of preparation and stockpiling.


see: https://www.axios.com/exclusive-nav...a3f08fb-dce1-4f69-89b5-ea048f8382a9.html


Navarro make his report on 29 Jan 20, DJT closed the US borders to Chinese travelers on 31 Jan 20. You are right that's pretty effing slow.
You'd have to drink 6 liters of tonic water just to get to the lowest therapeutic dose of quinine. 13 on the high end. Seems excessive, but whatever floats your boat.
Originally Posted by CharlieFoxtrot
You'd have to drink 6 liters of tonic water just to get to the lowest therapeutic dose of quinine. 13 on the high end. Seems excessive, but whatever floats your boat.
I guess a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do! I mix my G&T about 50/50. laugh
Originally Posted by djs
Peter Navarro, one of Donald Trump's closest friends and trade advisor, warned Trump of the high potential of a Pandemic in January; his warning was ignored. The Administration's lack of concern cost the US 2.5 months of preparation and stockpiling.


see: https://www.axios.com/exclusive-nav...a3f08fb-dce1-4f69-89b5-ea048f8382a9.html



Just about the exact same time that the vaunted Dr. Fauci publicly stated no worries of COVID-19 rapid spread here in the U.S.

What else have you got?
Back to the article, I'd be i interested to hear a pulmonologist/MD's opinion on this. Specifically whether all of the symptoms described (like bilateral pneumonia) could also be explained by the "cytokine storm."
Article has a lot of good points
things to consider: Jones wasn't the first, just first to sell toothpaste

type 2 Diabetes isn't about sugar its about insulin resistance.
hypertension is an autoimmune response.

group most affected have "overactive" immune system not suppressed.

Plaquenil suppress immune response, why its used in arthritis and lupus, one of its "modes of action" in Corona

ARB (ACE2 blockers) do not suppress immune response. Plaquenil has ARB (like all of them it is dose dependent)

Formal Studies have started in mid March concerning use of ARBs

as article points out, something can inactive a pathway common to both organisms. ARB don't share this pathway.

sometimes an answer of NO has more information in it , than an answer of yes.


Also take more antioxidants
Elderberry
Resveratrol

and the one just now being look at Melatonin 5 mg.

Melatonin is an immune system regulator, sleep stuff is side effect.

get an oximeter and monitor yourself.
Originally Posted by smokepole
Back to the article, I'd be i interested to hear a pulmonologist/MD's opinion on this. Specifically whether all of the symptoms described (like bilateral pneumonia) could also be explained by the "cytokine storm."



Yes.

In addition to your point, you may find it interesting that both Plaquenil types and Metformin are both kinases. One of metformins "modes of actions" in insulin resistance.
Originally Posted by CharlieFoxtrot
You'd have to drink 6 liters of tonic water just to get to the lowest therapeutic dose of quinine. 13 on the high end. Seems excessive, but whatever floats your boat.
I don't think it's all/nothing. A little probably helps a little and a lot helps more. If I read the article right, the quinine binds to blood cells. Less is going to affect fewer cells, maybe not enough to save you if you have a big reaction.
Originally Posted by AKwolverine
Andrew Gaiziunas is the author.

You can read more about his medical expertise, years of treating ARDS, published work in critical care medicine, and role in the development of ECMO here -

https://www.linkedin.com/in/agaiziunas

this aged well

what a fugging joke this was
Covid is like disco. Some people will always cling to it.
Etoh died of covid.

Good kill.
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Covid is like disco. Some people will always cling to it.

C'mon, you've still got some polyester wide lapel jackets and silk shirts in the closet.....
This has been a complete government clusterphucke. The big pharmaceutical companies ban the big hospital conglomerates from prescribing or issuing the only drugs that actually work while pushing mandatory vaccines that do more harm than good.
They killed thousands with their lies.
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Covid is like disco. Some people will always cling to it.


Lol, there's more truth there than you realize.
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