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I didn't know the F-22 had any doubters.
Isn't it the F-35 everybody was raggin on?
Way cool. Thanks for posting!
Have they ever fixed the O2 delivery system?
Originally Posted by billhilly
Isn't it the F-35 everybody was raggin on?



Yep...but some folks really love the F-35. My buddy's son is in the Israeli Air Force and they absolutely love the F-35 (they usually use either F-16s or F-15s). This story is, from what I've been told, not only true but it understates the true capabilities of the aircraft. What I was told is that not only did the F-35s surveil Iranian air defenses, the planes flew over Tehran in the shape of a Star of David...

Awesome, but 9G's? That's got to be blood draining!
Originally Posted by Remsen
Originally Posted by billhilly
Isn't it the F-35 everybody was raggin on?



Yep...but some folks really love the F-35. My buddy's son is in the Israeli Air Force and they absolutely love the F-35 (they usually use either F-16s or F-15s). This story is, from what I've been told, not only true but it understates the true capabilities of the aircraft. What I was told is that not only did the F-35s surveil Iranian air defenses, the planes flew over Tehran in the shape of a Star of David...



The Israeli Air Force has a longstanding reputation of improving whatever we sell them in a variety of ways. I wonder what tweaks they have made to the F-35.
Originally Posted by Remsen
Originally Posted by billhilly
Isn't it the F-35 everybody was raggin on?



Yep...but some folks really love the F-35. My buddy's son is in the Israeli Air Force and they absolutely love the F-35 (they usually use either F-16s or F-15s). This story is, from what I've been told, not only true but it understates the true capabilities of the aircraft. What I was told is that not only did the F-35s surveil Iranian air defenses, the planes flew over Tehran in the shape of a Star of David...



They praise anything they can get a good deal on.
Originally Posted by Blu_Cs
Awesome, but 9G's? That's got to be blood draining!



It'll make your balls flat.

I'm not a -35 fan, but the -22 rocks.
Originally Posted by deflave
I didn't know the F-22 had any doubters.


Russians and Chinks mostly.

All the focus on maneuvering is fighting the last war.
Originally Posted by deflave
They praise anything they can get a good deal on.


They aren't ever going to pay for them. And even if they did it'd be with our own money.
Cool vid. Thanks for sharing.
That is one BAD-ASS piece of machinery! That was great, fun ride, thank you
Very nice.
Originally Posted by Prwlr
Have they ever fixed the O2 delivery system?


Yes, they've fixed it there and in the T-6. It is an awesome machine.
Would love to go for a ride, but I would sooooo throw up.
Tax dollars at work in order to project dominance.
The F-35 mission is a bit more complicated and required a VTOL replacement for the AV8B Harrier. Obviously more moving parts, in flight environments the F-22 will never encounter. Looks like things are coming together. I came up through Marine Corps Aviation with a aviation element onboard an LHA consiting of Hueys, Cobras, 46s and 53s. We added the AV8B Harrier in early 1980s. Now we see the Tilt-Rotors and F-35s deployed together. Awesome capability IMO.


Are those hybrids?
VTOL is only one of 3 F-35 variants for the US.
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Impressive, thanks for posting.
Hill AFB here is the home of the first fully operational F-35 squadrons. They have deployed numerous times to war zones, and have seen a good deal of combat already. The guys in flight suits that I corner while shopping in the commissary are happy to tell me it is a very good airplane - finally. There is no argument that it took way too long, was far too ambitious, and many times too expensive to develop. But the end product is damn good.

If the F-22 ever gets to the "furball" dogfighting stage of air-to-air combat, it has failed utterly in its mission. It is designed to detect, track, and kill from long to very long range, before the enemy even knows it is there. Fighter pilots dearly love to engage with guns, in close, and under high Gs - but that is a tactic about as outmoded as horse cavalry.
They’ve come a long way from the Corsair.
The EAA has one on display in their museum. It, and the rest of their collection, is worth a look for anyone in the Oshkosh area.
Originally Posted by billhilly
Isn't it the F-35 everybody was raggin on?


And deservedly so. The F-22 is light years ahead of anything else and ESPECIALLY the 35
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