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I've got a Remington 700 in 264 Win Mag with an X-Mark Pro Trigger. It's breaking a little over 6 pounds. It seems like a nice clean, crisp trigger, but the poundage is a little high for me. I'd like to get it down around 4 maybe even 3 pounds.

Remington suggests having a gunsmith adjust the trigger. Is that just their lawyers talking or can I do it myself?

Thanks,

Reed

Try searching the gunsmith forum. Many posts there about how to adjust and how to test the trigger for safety after adjustments.
Pop the two pins, throw the trigger in the garbage, buy a Timney or Jewell.
I have adjusted the pull on one x mark pro trigger and it is relatively easy. If you send the gun in for warranty to Remington it might void the warranty at least that's what they say. You need a very small allen wrench to do the job..previous remingtons used a single blade screw head. Looking at the front of the the bottom screw affects the poundage. Turn it out to lower poundage to what you desire. Do not mess iwth the other screws which are the sear engagement or the overtravel screws. You should be able to get it down to 3 lbs easily or maybe less.
When your done you can put some clear nail polish on top of the screw to lock it in place.

My 700 was around 5lbs from the factory and it easily went down to 3 lbs.
IMO, the best post on the X-mark Pro

http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/3146742/1
That is where I found my info. thanks for posting it.

My trigger felt extremely good after adjusting and was very crisp. The newer versions of it with the "user" adjustable feature on the face of the trigger are fantastic.
Thanks everyone. I'll take the stock off and adjust it myself.
Thanks again, everyone.

I just a adjusted the trigger. I was a snap. There was some glue or sealant in the screw area. I poked my small allen wrench head bit through the sealant and unscrewed it a bit. The pull went from 6 lbs plus on the Lyman scale to 3 lbs 5 oz. I think that'll do.

I don't knwo if it's as nice as a Timney or the Shilen triggers I own, but hey, it came with the rifle. The price they want for Timney these days they must be made of gold or some other rare element.
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I don't knwo if it's as nice as a Timney or the Shilen triggers I own, but hey, it came with the rifle. The price they want for Timney these days they must be made of gold or some other rare element.


The trigger you have well adjusted is all the trigger one needs
Yep, just keep flipping that safety because eventually the gun will go off when you do...
The friggin glue, I have some that I've gotten it off and others I've done everything and still can't.
Don't need no stinking safety.
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Yep, just keep flipping that safety because eventually the gun will go off when you do...


You either don't like Remington triggers or don't know anything about the new version. Are you privy to some bad information on X-Mark Pro triggers?
I had a brand new Remington with the X-mark trigger. Weight was backed down to 4 pounds, and resealed. The other screws weren't touched. Flipped off the safety to shoot a bear, and the gun fired. It was a long flight back from AK. Gun was fine the first 200 rounds, then it failed when it mattered.

My other two Remingtons were adjusted by a well known gunsmith, and also failed in the same fashion. Luckily I discovered the problem before it was an issue, and installed aftermarket triggers.

My buddy came out hunting mulies last year. He waited 12 years to draw a tag. He drew down on a buck, flipped the safety, and BANG. He was able to chamber a new round, and luckily get another shot before the buck ran off. (he never dicked with his trigger)

I love the way my Remingtons handle, and shoot, I just think those triggers are a boobytrap, and there is no reason for it. Even their bolt release is a retarded piece of crap.
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I had a brand new Remington with the X-mark trigger. Weight was backed down to 4 pounds, and resealed. The other screws weren't touched. Flipped off the safety to shoot a bear, and the gun fired. It was a long flight back from AK. Gun was fine the first 200 rounds, then it failed when it mattered.


Ok back to the drawing board on the X mark pro. I thought Remington designed this trigger to avoid more lawsuits?
Ironically, I talked to the guys are Rifle Basix right after it happened, and they thought the same thing. They believed me though, although I was the first they heard of it.

Remington still thinks you need to monkey with the trigger to "trick it" into firing. Not the case. Only thing I can figure is I hunted in light rain the day before, maybe somehow, someway it affected the trigger??? Don't know, but when my gun went off, i about fell out of the tree too. At least I had a safety harness.
True, strange things happen when tuning the new X-pro. I brought mine's weight down 3x and twice the weight increased without reason (the sealant I applied having remained intact) !?! Out of explanation and having nothing to lose, I sprayed out and cleaned the whole trigger mechanics and was amazed to see the amount of gunk that flowed out ! Several hundred round later, it still works perfectly and... I still don't understand why... According to many testimonies, it seems I'm not alone to be plagued with the problem.
No sensible explanation thus, unless... electrolysis might be playing tricks ?!? As a matter of fact, 2 different metals are mated and then, where does all that gunk comes from ? I'm not sure of the answer but maybe there's something in it... Perhaps, a metallurgist forum member might take over from here ?
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Don't need no stinking safety.


Those hot chamber hunters do, don't they....

Have had a boat load of remington triggers since the mid 80's and have never had trouble with any of 'em.

The X Mark Pro is a great trigger.....
Go ahead and try to chamber a round when a bedded bull is a mere 40 yards away in the aspens or lodgepole...Or try and chamber a round when a bear is 20 yards away coming into bait. See ya!
I guess I can sorta see how close game would rattle some folks.

Like I said, never had trouble with remmy triggers or remmy safeties for that matter.....new, or old.
Or how jacking in a shell will rattle game.
Chambering a round in mute mode is definately complicated for some.

Then again the entire concept of cold carry escapes most.......
There was only one Bigstick, give it a rest.
Originally Posted by dogcatcher223
Yep, just keep flipping that safety because eventually the gun will go off when you do...


Fairly certain I'm not the one who answered a guy's simple trigger adjustment question with a personal bitch about safeties.....
When are you going to answer his question?

You are my hero, I bet you don't even have a safety lever on your guns because you are so hardcore.

If not being stumped by the mechanics of a Remington trigger, nor tripping over quietly chambering a round, makes me hardcore, then so be it.

I can see now why you are so jealous.....
How many elk have you killed? How many shot in the timber? How many in their beds?
I second going to the thread. I took apart an XMP in order to get the goo off. Had to use a mini torch. Further, I would like to get another spring for the pull weight, smaller wire and a slower rise. But it's a good trigger design. I sure as heck didn't enjoy taking it apart, but if you can get .125 E-clips from your auto store, you can get it back together.
Originally Posted by dogcatcher223
How many elk have you killed? How many shot in the timber? How many in their beds?


Too funny...

Okay you hunt hot because you can't get it done any other way....you win.

Congrats....
Real hunters don't sit in a shack staring at a bait pile all day, or drive around in a truck drinking beer.

How many elk have you killed again?
You don't take winning easily, do you.

Again, too funny......
Just a thought...maybe you should try leavin' your finger off the trigger while you flip that safety...
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Just a thought...maybe you should try leavin' your finger off the trigger while you flip that safety...


Unbelievable that some people still think this way. Have you researched this issue? Probably not is my best guess. Out of court settlements,countless lawsuits and a complete redesign of their triggers and people still think of it as human error. Has any other US manufacturer had that much attention focused on their triggers other then Remington? NO
Well OK then, I guess you have done this research? Lay it on me man. Give me the dates, places, people involved, amount of the settlements, and the source this information comes from since you obviously are so enlightened.
I do remember a huge lawsuit that Remington settled out of court...to the widow of the man that started to clean his rifles bore with a round in the chamber. So lawsuits are not prima facia evidence of a flawed product.
But I'll concede that you know much more than I do. I'm just a simple country boy that has owned dozens of Remington rifles, knows lots of other folks who have, has adjusted bunches of Remington triggers, and who has never heard of one going off when the safety was flipped off. But it dang sure will if you have your finger on that trigger. At which time most people are too embarrassed to admit they screwed up and claim the rifle was faulty.
https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth...193668/13/Have_you_ever_had_a_BAD_Reming

go to page 13 and Jorge1 post he has some links. The rest you can GOOGLE and you will find plenty to parse through.

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So lawsuits are not prima facia evidence of a flawed product.


But I'll concede that you know much more than I do. I'm just a simple country boy that has owned dozens of Remington rifles, knows lots of other folks who have, has adjusted bunches of Remington triggers, and who has never heard of one going off when the safety was flipped off. But it dang sure will if you have your finger on that trigger. At which time most people are too embarrassed to admit they screwed up and claim the rifle was faulty.


Probably because your full of [bleep] and have never been around as many of them as you claim. Like I said before I have never ever had any gun go off pushing the safety button from on to off except with one Remington and no my finger was not on the [bleep] trigger when it happened either. It was a 1971 Model 700 adl in 25-06. If I was not handling the rifle safely I would have killed my best friend. I purchased a 1988 700 FS in 7mm rem mag. I went through 3 ..2 replacement triggers because the safety would not go from on to off. Gunsmith at Green Acres In Jacksonville told me that they had a bad shipment of triggers from a vendor. Is that something you want to trust?
Geeze, you guys.
All mechanical devices can fail. That's how one handles a firearm, as if. No exceptions.
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Geeze, you guys.
All mechanical devices can fail. That's how one handles a firearm, as if. No exceptions.


Exactly true. But I have never had a rifle go off when switching the safety from on to off with the exception of one Remington. That is one too many in my opinion.
When I talked to some idiot at Remington, he told me to walk around with my bolt handle up, and the safety already on "fire." Then close the bolt if I want to shoot something. He told me to never trust a safety. -And I could send it to their repair center for inspection, on my dime. I told them to design a new trigger that has a safety that actually works instead.

I opted for Plan B...I bought a Tikka.
Really moved up in the world didnt ya. The tikka has become pretty much beretta/sako's answer to the remington 770 or what ever their wash and wear plastic rifle is. And yes I have looked at them. Too much plastic/polymer for my tastes. BTW...have yet to ever have one problem with a remington trigger. Never killed an elk..but i do hunt some perty tough whitetails. These animals have a 7th and 8th sense. So we wont get into hunting scenarios. Cause regardless of size or habitat...when you can consistantly legally harvest animals that are being hunted by everyone and their brother, hunted at night, and pressured to hell and back...Id say thats perty dang good.
Remington wishes their rifles shot like Tikkas. People claim they don't like Tikkas because of plastic, but think an SPS is the cat's meow.
Originally Posted by dogcatcher223
When I talked to some idiot at Remington, he told me to walk around with my bolt handle up, and the safety already on "fire." Then close the bolt if I want to shoot something. He told me to never trust a safety.


Actually, that was recommended practice in Africa even with "trusted" safeties. It works and is good advice, although I sympathize with your frustration.
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