Top [outside] layer that is always in my pack will handle rain/wet snow, be breathable, have pit zips and a stow away hood. Marmot Precip works for occasional use and is probably the best value in outdoor gear that I have found.
Too many choices and I've not tried enough to scratch the surface of options. You are talking about all conditions within a range of possible hypothermia. That said, I recommend what others already said, but tell you why.
If or when your outer layer of goretex or whatever fails, as anything can, you need to deal with wcs.
Worst Case Scenario is that you are soaked thru and in a bad place, lost direction, or injured, fill in the blanks. Wool against the skin will retain heat better than anything I am aware of when wet. Marino is normally comfortable and odor resistant. Over that, you could go with a fleece or something insulative, but I like wool for mid too, IF the friction is not a factor. It depends on fit and distance walking. Friction means more resistance and fatigue. However the better trade off is breathability and warmth when wet. I like button ups better than pull overs for temp regulation.
IMHO, go from there with the latest greatest favorite camo or blaze. That matters less than old fashioned high tech wool. Jesus made sheep and man made synthetics have their place, but hard to beat the multiple benefits of wool.
PS:. If you are backpacking, you need to consider the sweat and ventilation necessary. While still or packing meat, you must go with zip buttons, or snap mid layers. Think breathable over insulation. Carry an extra layer in the pack for still /stand. When you move with a heavy pack, you'll be tempted to trudge on when you should shed a layer. That is one reason why I described the importance of under layer system trumping outer.
If you like camo, check out the kryptek Highlander. Best by far over multiple elevations in my opinion. Mandrake is for warmer weather woodlands...shades of green. The other is three or four seasons. It will shift brown in low light, fall/ winter. The green emerges in that environment. Colors on fabrics that I'm familiar with change appearance with environment. Break up is amazing. Some fabrics are drab, while others ( mainly polyester) are reflective slightly, but this is true of other patters and dyes.
Left mamma a Father’s Day hint for the kuiu Guide.
Which camo pattern is best?
Whichever you prefer. It makes no difference to the animals whether you wear camo or any subdued plain color. They see movement, not colors. All the fancy patterns are to sell gear, not to help you get game.
wool t shirt, wool long sleeve, soft shell, good light rain jacket pit zips. marmot or kuiu, , soft shell vest, good boots, I like a light fleece hoody by kuiu, gaiters, prana Zions or Walmart wrangler pants.
if you're rifle hunting no Camo is needed. muted colors and you're wearing blaze orange anyway
I have KUIU and Sitka gear, choices often come down to which fits best. I have a KUIU guide jacket and really like it, you can't beat the stretch material when you are on the go.
I like the biggest outer layer shell I can get. I found one on sale many years ago and it has been down the grand canyon and up the divide with me. Worth it's weight in gold.
Is the solid color comment valid for turkeys? We're new to the turkey hunting game, but have been told they can see all colors and shades.
Full camo or not for them?
I have surplus military Gore-Tex in BDU (woodland), ABU (sage), ACU (old Army digital camo) and OCP (new joint service fleck camo). If I don't need to buy more gear for the sake of more gear, I won't.
Really liking the Kuiu Guide Jacket. I am 6'1", 175 lb., and it fits snugly with a couple of layers, but not uncomfortably so. I bought the Large size, would do so again.
I really like the Sitka Jetstream, mine ran small so I bought an XL instead of L. I carry a puffy in my pack for sitting any length of time, as well as the Sitka Dewpoint rain gear (very light). Have used these extensively in a number of locations and am very happy with this outfit.
I really like the Kuiu Guide jacket for that role.
I agree....
If you are set on a jacket, the Kuiu all seasons guide jacket is the one without the hoodie. I am not a fan of hoodies because I prefer to outfit with beanies and what not.
As to the hood, before I got the Sitka Jetstream several years ago, I didn’t like a jacket with a hood. This one, however, changes my mind. I find it very useful after hiking to a spot I want to sit, especially in a breeze, as it is very well designed and protects my neck.
David Don’t overlook the Kuiu Axis jacket either especially if much rain or snow might be encountered. I have had both the guide and axis and while the guide is nice the axis is awesome. I use the Axis when in colder/wet weather and normally just run a peloton 240 as my regular top layer.
I normally size up when ordering Kuiu jackets by 1 size. I have an XL axis and had an XL guide jacket and both fit good with layers under. I wear a L sweatshirt in everyday life.
Left mamma a Father’s Day hint for the kuiu Guide.
Which camo pattern is best?
I love the kuiu guide jacket. I’ve found the vias works well in rocky terrain where the verde works great in the timber and tundra. I have no opinion on that valo pattern.
I will say that the guide jacket is a good jacket.
I normally size up when ordering Kuiu jackets by 1 size. I have an XL axis and had an XL guide jacket and both fit good with layers under. I wear a L sweatshirt in everyday life.
I had to size up in the guide jacket. That is definetly good advice.
I normally size up when ordering Kuiu jackets by 1 size. I have an XL axis and had an XL guide jacket and both fit good with layers under. I wear a L sweatshirt in everyday life.
unfortunately there is no one jacket that's going to the trick; too many variables in weather and too many variable throughout the day big game hunting- hiking up a steep ridge vs sitting and glassing are polar opposites of what's needed
the best jacket in the rain/wet snow is a good rain jacket (my preference is the Sitka Dewpoint- lightweight, but still fully featured and durable)
the best jacket on the move is a good active layer jacket (my preference is the sadly now discontinued Patagonia Nano Light- extremely breathable, fast drying and warm while moving)
the best jacket glassing is a good warm puffy jacket (my preference is Nunatak's custom Apex insulated PCT jacket- can select how much insulation, sleeve lengths, overall length, fabric, etc)
I'll throw the First Lite Catalyst in for consideration. It's quiet, handles a little wet weather, tough, has a little stretch for easy movement and insulates well in the temperature range given. I have a Sitka Dakota Hoodie but it would be way to warm for the 30*-60* temperature range specified.
All of the brands previously mentioned are all great brands but take a look at skre brand.
I bought the hardscrabble two years ago and it’s been a solid jacket that you can layer with. It’s got put zips and high quality zippers along with great range of motion and is wind proof. Great price on it too when. Compared it to the other brands. They also have a size guarantee if it doesn’t fit they pay for the shipping for the switch out.
After not hunting much for the last few years, I’m ramping up to hit it this year.
I live in the Pacific Northwest in Kennewick WA on the dry side of WA.
I’m looking for a general purpose hunting jacket. Temps range from 30-60*F and although this side is a desert, snow or rain is always in play.
Suggestions?
Backpack or camper hunting.
David Walter, What I said before about layering with wool isn't nearly as important still hunting near your camper. You've got shelter from rain. As to a particular camo for.bow season, I would look into this versatile pattern. It has the ability to show some green with strong light in a green season. It reverts to the browns and tan in winter like shown. If you want more green for warm months, go with the Mandrake version. Always remember the trade offs and you will likely be a happy shopper. Polyesters reflect more than natural fibers and most nylons. An identical pattern will reveal sooner with polyester than the exact same in the others. Dyes have something to do with it too, but fabric is most important. Solid wool earth tones can be ghillied with vegetation tie ons. If you don't move, you'll remain unseen when set up right. Those are general rules with some exceptions.
I’d rather have a marmot precip and a $26 dollar synthetic puffy from Walmart Swiss tech brand than any one of the high dollar kuiu/sitka/whatever else is trending. Versatile and should cover most of your temperatures you mentioned especially with base layering.
Actually that is what I hunt with. I have a big down puffy for real cold.
Not that there’s anything wrong with the boutique brands but just one of them wouldn’t work that great for me. I don’t think the performance justifies the price of them either but we all have different budgets.
In the situation the OP is referring to I usually just have a plaid shirt, with the heaviness dependent upon time of year.
If rain is expected I will put on a heavy wool shirt with raingear (usually cheaper stuff, but I am expanding my horizons). Kifaru Lost Park Parka if it is windy and cold.
I am intrigued to see what others use and recommend though.
The Kuiu Guide (thanks for that suggestion) looks to check alot of those same boxes, I'm just wonder if it's too warm for what I'm looking for.
I’ve got a HPG Windcheater, it’s a good outer layer for the high desert where I live. It is not water resistant beyond shedding a few drops which limits it’s usefulness. I generally carry a Marmot Precip jacket, it is a good combination of light, packable, mostly waterproof, and affordable.
We climbed Kilimanjaro with a Precip and a REI puffy jacket for 95% of the climb. Only time we needed warmer was at night and at the morning trek to the summit.
The sun going down at 15,000 feet in a desert causes the temps to plummet.
There is no jacket that will be a one and done deal for 30-60 degree temperature swings. Heck, in 50 degrees I’m in a t shirt while 30 degrees would completely depend on wether I was moving or sitting still.
For sitting around, I’ve yet to find anything as good as a kifaru lost park pullover. The kuiu guide jackets are ok for relatively low activity stuff but you aren’t going to hike much with one and like most other soft shells, the kuiu guide jacket isn’t very packable. It rarely makes the cut for me in terms of back pack hunts.
For me I like to have base layers, some sort of t shirt, a heavier fleece type layer and a shell, the puffy jacket is packed away for when I’m not moving. I’ve even started to really appreciate simple wind shirts just to cut wind while I’m hiking and don’t need insulation.
The Kuiu Guide (thanks for that suggestion) looks to check alot of those same boxes, I'm just wonder if it's too warm for what I'm looking for.
I’ve got a HPG Windcheater, it’s a good outer layer for the high desert where I live. It is not water resistant beyond shedding a few drops which limits it’s usefulness. I generally carry a Marmot Precip jacket, it is a good combination of light, packable, mostly waterproof, and affordable.
Thanks for that info! The ability to stop water is towards the bottom of priorities for me, but being able to dry relatively quickly is closer to the top. Heck, I've not been that disappointed in a 20yr old Microtex jacket from Cabelas...
Sika is owned by Gore Technologies and has some pretty good water and wind proof fabrics but tends to be about 20% more expensive than KUIU. KUIU uses mostly Torrey fabrics and has great stretch materials. I have more KUIU than Sitka, mostly because of the fit. I wear solids on the bottom and camo up top. I wear solid KUIU Attack pants everywhere, hiking, hunting, etc. Very comfortable and 4 way stretch. I'm also a big fan of the Guide jacket. I'm an XL and the Guide XL fits but I'm a xxl in other KUIU jackets.
Most of my hunting outerwear is GameHide. Very good quality at a reasonable price. And great to deal with if you order directly from them. I have one of their Flatland parkas (and some other articles) that I think I paid more for a few years ago than it's selling for now.
In the situation the OP is referring to I usually just have a plaid shirt, with the heaviness dependent upon time of year.
If rain is expected I will put on a heavy wool shirt with raingear (usually cheaper stuff, but I am expanding my horizons). Kifaru Lost Park Parka if it is windy and cold.
I am intrigued to see what others use and recommend though.