Just picked this guy up a couple days ago. I haven't seen much info on them so I figured I would start a running thread on the breakaway tarp.


(In this pic I am only using about half the stake out points and none of the guy outs.)


My kit includes the following:

Breakaway Tarp
Tarp Vestibule with stove jack
6 ground hog stakes and 8 ti stakes
10ft of guy line


(Kershaw Leek for size reference)

Total Weight in a Kifaru ultralight pullout is 1 pound 15oz.

Initial set up took me a little while to figure out. I thought I could just wing it and set it up tight. Well lets just say that didn't go over too well. After I watched the video on seek outside's website the next set up was a snap.

The tarp pitches really tight. It's very easy to get it pitched right to the ground. Another nice feature I really like is the rear trekking pole mounts outside the tarp. So you only have to maneuver around one pole inside the tarp. This leaves lots of room to sleep side by side if you want to. Two people could share this shelter with enough room for gear. Also there is plenty of room to sit up for cooking or hanging out.



The vestibule is a nice addition in not so nice weather. It adds quite a bit of room (15ft) and a place to cook or store gear. With the addition of a stove jack you can add a small wood burning stove. There is also a built in screen door.




There is a ton of additional ties out which allow you to pitch the tarp in a variety of ways. It makes guying out the tarp very easy.

Construction is very good. Seams are sewn perfect and the stake outs are reinforced with cordura. The pole mounts are also reinforced with cordura and feature cordage to tie onto a trekking pole or stick.

I am really impressed with this shelter. I will probably leave the vestibule home except for the spring and fall. Additionally I would like to add one of Ed T's Ti stoves to the set up.

I will continue to post on this thread as I use the tarp more. If anyone else has info to add feel free to post away!


(Perched next to my Akto)

If you get a chance, would you post a few pics with two sleeping bags or some packs in it, just as a size reference?

Dear God... That's slick.

Thoughts on two adults, gear outside, and a small Kifaru stove? Too tight?


Travis

Yea I sure can I will try to get it back up tomorrow.



It would work no problem. It will be a bit snug though. So it should probably be someone you can be in close quarters with.

If you set it up with your heads facing the door there is still plenty of room for gear inside and a small stove.

The plan was just me so it would be like a palace. Or the wife and I plus dog. I love that it takes up hardly any room in a pack. No reason not to take it along.

When I was messing with it I had the wife, kids and my self in it playing around.

Thank you sir.

Appreciate it.


Travis

I asked Kevin about this a while back. I've already got a BCS, and he told me if it were him he'd just take the BCS for the extra room instead of buying the breakaway as well.

But after seeing the pics I can see a use for this tarp. It would work well for trips where you may or may not spend the night.

I believe it can also be set up as an awning over his other tents. That would make it nice to have in rainy weather for lounging / cooking outside the main tent or for gear storage.

Does anyone have pics of the breakaway in awning mode?

I think I need the Breakaway...

I wonder what they charge to install the jack?


Travis

I am waiting to see final specs for the Little Bug out shelter and pricing. After I see that I will be ordering one of the two with stove jack. They look like they would go along gear with my myog stove built from the directions on hill people gear's site.

What's that bad boy cost?

One fitty.


Travis

You bet Travis. Here are a few pic's of it loaded up. gear for two, guns, bags, pads, packs and boots. It just so happen to be pretty windy (20-30) as well. Just reinforced how easy it is to set up once you know what your doing.

No vestibule on this time.





Exactly my thoughts as well. No reason to not have it along.

Man, with the Breakaway tarp, BCS and the little bug out shelter soon to come Seek outside has some great choices for solo/two person shelters. My BCS should be here next week, I am excited!

BTW Kenai I don't think I would use one of Ed's roll up stoves in the Breakaway tarp. It would be wayyy too hot and would run you out of there. I should have one of Ed's Mini canister stoves soon for my BCS, I think that would be a much better fit for the BAT(thats what I am going to call it now). I will let you all know how it goes, should be plenty to heat the BCS or the BAT.

Yea Kevin has the right idea for sure. I have thought a bunch about the stove. I think you're right on. I would be super hot in side. I will have to check out the canister stove as well.

I'm trying to decide on a 8 or 12 man now

Nice.

Any photos of the rear trekking pole setup?

I spent some time last September living in a Kifaru Supertarp with an Annex. I like that layout a lot better than anything else on the market, and having a stickburner makes life more tolerable as the years add up

I'd buy Kevin's tent without hesitation. I met him face to face. He's for real...

Good pics kenaiking.

Thanks,
Travis

I sure didn't. Next time I take it out I will try to remember.



You bet Travis. It really is a great shelter.

Do all the vestibules include a jack? If not, how much does the jack installation add to the cost?


Travis

Jack is 65 or 45 can't remember. Hope little sibling / cone stove works well in these

Kevin

These are very well built shelters and are IMO a great shelter option for solo use- although doable for 2. Made by a great company that is really producing some nice structures.

I used one last fall on a couple weekend bivy hunts. Here is a couple pics shown set up for solo use. I just used sticks for the front and rear set up points. ( as shown in pic- no shortage of sticks where I was hunting). I am not much of a trekking pole type of guy. Not opposed to them- but never have used them really. I have used some cut on site sticks for packing meat on steep grades though.

Shown in pick is a Terra Nova Bivi Tarp Nest inside the shelter. For reference it is 30" wide. Brought it because I thought the 'skeeters would be bad, and I was sure glad to have it, because they were.





Wanted to try out this shelter and I liked the shelter quite a bit. But in the end, I made the decision to sell it and keep using my Integral Design George tarp that I have used for 12+ years. The "George Tarp" is real similar is shape and size to the BCS, and I believe was some of the inspiration for it (the BCS).

So, I am in agreement with the statement in this quote:



I thought the same thing before I put my BAT (as Big W called it above) up for sale. I really mulled over the pros and cons of each, and although there are not many cons for each- there are some differences. Not shown in my pics above is a 5 oz. "fly" type sheet (Actually a BA Fly Creek ground sheet) that I was going to use as a front vestibule if the projected thunderstorms came in, and started blowing in sideways on me on my trip. They did not, but I still carried that weight for some added protection and very possibly would have been happy to have had it if they had.

I thought about my future shelter options after the fall trips and thought if I am going to carry an extra 5 oz protection, or even get a S.O. BAT vestibule ( which weighs 5-6 oz) then I am then up to the weight of my ID George tarp. My George tarp weighs in and 21-22 oz. for just the fly sheet weight- about what the BAT and some sort of vestibule weigh.

I set up both in my yard and really compared the ease of set up, the usable space, and other factors. For me the tipi type set up of the George tarp won out. It is about 7' ft tall and very easy to move around in- compared to the BAT. It is a palace for 1 and very comfy for 2 and the weight would be a wash for the 2 structures. Plus I really like the stand up and head room of the tipi type structures. And for me the set up of them is much easier and more intuitive. Although the BAT was very nice structure- I decided to keep what I was use to and more comfortable and secure in. But if I did not have what I had I would buy one of the BAT shelters again.

Also for another reference in size-and another tipi type set up that I like a lot is my Golite 3 SL that weighs in at 24 oz. and has 60 sg. ft. of space. It does not feel quite as roomy as the George Tarp and it weighs 2 oz. more; but I felt that it too has a lot more usable room compared to the BAT.

With all that said, I too am anxiously waiting to see final specs and info for the little Bug out shelter. That little bad boy may just be too tempting to pass up for me. Plus it weighs less and would do away of me needing to carry a separate nest inside my tipi structures when the conditions call for it.

Just my 2 cents and possibly what it is worth.

To clarrify the differences (sorry I was fast packing in the big ditch for a few days).

The BAT is a utility shelter in my opinion, although it has done pretty well in wind up to 40 and some big rain storms. It is best suited for folks that carry trekking poles, have available sticks, and where bugs are not a big concern. It also works well as an emergency shelter and can be used with some of the other shelters in some form or another. A couple quick points, the BAT is reversible, there is not a wrong or right side, this makes useful for being able to set up quickly as a storm is on you. You can also pitch it a few different ways, I tend to pitch it higher when I can. You can tie the back open as well, it's very flexible. It could be purpose built and a tad lighter, but then it would loose the flexibility. Trade offs. I've slept 3 under it pitched a bit higher.

The BCS is much more purpose built, and while I wish it approached the weight of the original george , it does not. This is mainly due to the stove jack, the storm flap, the sod skirt and the fact it is bigger and has a heavier zipper. I think it's to heavy to be really an emergency shelter, but really I guess that all depends on your priorities. The BCS is a fair bit larger than the original george (rear pullout section, the door extends further, and it rounds, plus it is a tad wider at the front). The BCS is a castle for one, and really without the extra door I think you could fit three with no stove if you desired. The canopy of the BCS is heavier than the BAT, but the stakes are less, and if you carry trekking poles specifically for the BAT, then they come out to be a very similar weight. In my experience, most trekking poles are about 10 ounces each, unless they are super light. Hence part of the reason for trekking pole adaptation on the BCS is to move the weight off your back, vs carrying a dedicated pole.

The Little Bug out, is attempting to sort of mate those, the prototype is closer to the BAT weight and perhaps a little smaller, but it more purpose built for efficient sleeping, and to be storm worthy and provide bug protection. The shape is more like a BCS, but the front vestibule is much larger. As always, the drawback is it is not 7 ft tall like the BCS. We could make it at that height, using cuben, but then the cost would be in another world. What I like about the LBO, is that in the end, you should be able to do a partially floored, screened shelter that you is essentially double walled and with a stove it could be close to 3 lbs total. Pricing I'm not sure of at this point. I should have a LBO production prototype in the next few days, and with that we should start to have an idea on pricing.

In the end, it depends on what you like and want. I don't carry trekking poles for use with the breakaway, but I use sticks, a lot, and I might pitch it a bunch of different ways depending on my mood. Of course, when using with the vestibule, then there is really only one way to pitch it. I even pitch the BCS depending on my mood (If I'm not worried about heat or rain, I might pitch it open, as was the case in the Grand, of course the weather turned, so I ended up closing it up).

Kevin

Reading that I am definitely waiting for the LBO. Still plan on a BAT and BCS at some point too.

To be clear on a couple things regarding Little bug out so people aren't waiting for something it is not.

It is trekking pole supported height, so it is not tall, however you can pitch it higher with utility cord and line locks

The nest section is separate , but integrates in seamlessly and easily.

Sleeping in the nest, it's big for one guy, fine for some one you are ok being close to, but you probably won't want to share it with stinky partners. Without the nest, you can sleep oriented the other way, and it is probably fine for two grown men, but a little tight.

The little bug out also will open up in sort of a unique way, for more of an under the stars feel.

Stove jack, will be an add on, there is no sod skirt, priorities were
- Easy integration of nest
- Poor weather performance (lot of guyouts and tie outs).
- Light enough to be an emergency shelter , very close to tarp weight. My first proto type was 18 ounces, it requires at least 6 stakes to pitch. This should be good for most conditions, in addition a couple of the guyouts increase the room, so most will probably want 8 stakes for optional setup. You could probably use 14 - 16 stakes if you really wanted.

So weights will be
- Minimal about 18 ounces + 6 stakes
- Nest about 16 ounces
- If you want a stove jack, add 3 ounces
Trekking pole, of CF segments

Quick Update
- We are making a pole kit available for the breakaway, not sure of price yet but it won't be crazy. It's CF, weighs 6 ounces for the kit(less than most trekking poles). Thus far I've tested it in measured winds up to 45MPH, and it was solid. In fact , other than the edges between the vestibule and main tarp (and that's the nature of the beast), the whole structure was pretty solid. I know I've been hesitant to recommend the breakaway at times, just because it is not a fully sealed enclosure, but it handles poor weather pretty well, and with the addition of the pole kit, it works even if you are not a trekking pole person, or have a lot of access to appropriate sticks. If you are interested in the pole kit, let us know. It should be posted on our site in a few days.

Kevin I want a set for sure. I was thinking of ordering a set if MLD poles. I think the additional weight would be well worth it.