Is there anything out there now that is as good as the Amok Draumr appears to be? It is not cheap but I would be OK paying more if it works as advertised.

The 2.0 version will be available sometime in the spring.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65a6s9OHHU4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xZmL9MZQdY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvebgTyTkWI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj9IihjjpuU

Do yourself a HUGE favor and go to https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/content.php





I haven't found a better source of hammock info yet.

Looks interesting but pretty heavy.

I really like the idea and would love to try it.

It looks like the design severely limits the pitch angle of a rainfly/tarp though. It also looks like one would be rocking/poking into the tarp at night because it is right at your face/head.

Doesn't look too under quilt friendly either... Love my warbonnet ridge runner and warbonnet blackbird... Ridge runner for its flat lie and better circulation gets the nod for 3 season use while I sleep " warmer" in the blackbird for 4 season use

Just be aware they are way anti gun/hunter over there. A lot of the experience touted is guys sleeping in bedrooms or backyards. Bunch of mall ninja preppers if you ask me with a few backpackers.

I have been to that site a few times in the past and to be honest I didn't find it all that helpful for my needs.

After spending a bit of time looking at the other options available, the only hammock that appeals to me is the AMOK.

I think I will give it a go when it is available this spring.

Not looking or wanting to replace a tarp/tipi but wanting to spend a bit more time in a few areas where finding a small flat spot is an issue.

Not getting a hammock system dialed in, in the back yard, is analagous to going hunting with a rifle without checking its zero.

Looks like a 4.5lb turd that you need to pack in a large inflatable as well. Will be 6+lbs but at least that does include a tarp fly with minimal coverage.

I'd really keep looking. Just trying to help.






I spent a few nights along Lake Superior this past October. 36 F temps with sleet/snow and the wind blowing 20+ for the first 36 hours. I have a tarp with doors that I can completely close for weather protection as it keeps the down nice and dry.

Here it is with one door open and a Tarptent in the foreground.


The AMOK tarp set up will not handle that kind of weather.

Your right on all the backyard mall ninja stuff. Wish I could get out in the real world and use it.

Laughing!
















Just to give you a glimpse of the mall.

Lol.

What are you using Powerguy?

I agree 100%

Warbonnet Blackbird XLC

Superfly tarp

Typed my reply in above posts quote by accident

I can understand the aversion to the hammockforums.net. It seems to be populated by safety nazis who sit by their keyboards waiting to call foul ball on everybody. I guess that's pretty much the entire internet though.

There are more of the "REI clan" there than the "Cabelas types", this is true. I have learned a lot there though and I do visit from time to time. There is a huge tendency for group think - very easy to get entangled into gear obsession and suckered into minutiae.

Back to the AMOK thing...

If I wanted super lightweight, it can be argued that hammocks are not the way to go, period. If that AMOK is super comfy, it may be worth their weight if that is what one prioritizes. It almost looks like you could just set up the whole shebang upside down as a shaped tarp and sleep on the ground if you wanted. I tend to not go out in foul weather on purpose because I enjoy sleeping under the stars so its non-tarp friendliness isn't a deal breaker. I like NOT using a tarp. Also, I don't necessarily just look at the thing for outdoor/backpacking purposes. My sleeping arrangement at the cottage is 100% hammock and this thing looks like a great permanent/indoor set up that is TV viewing friendly

I'm in a Warbonnet Blackbird me self also these days BTW. Went out on 01/02/15 on a 15F night in NE PA and it went quite well. I could've used more snow but I sure did need that outing after the Christmas holidays...

Speer underquilt?

Hammock Gear Incubator 0� with 4oz of overstuff

"so warmy" <-- my kid says

HG gear flat out rocks

That's a LOT of down. I used to have JRB's 0F quilt set, Mt. Wash/Rocky Mtn. They damn near filled up half of a ULA Catalyst.

Pulk

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