What are you using?
Mine are A-TACS iX, AU-X and King's Desert Shadow.
Digital Desert and UCP.
Grey above timberline in Cascade Range.
Have overwhites, but rarely use them.
Most of my stuff is that new fangled solid color camo.
Bow hunting- Go with ASAT, some of the sitka patterns. I like larger pattern to break up routine.
Rifle and muzzle loader same and sometimes solid colors like tans in fall or a snow pattern in late season open areas. But camo not really needed if move in areas quietly, paying attention to wind, bedding areas, no sky lining etc.
Most of my stuff is that new fangled solid color camo.
We often refer to "that new fangled solid color camo" as Mujahideen or Taliban. Works pretty damn good...for human eyes.
For several decades, I didn't use camo because I did my hunting in Colorado and we have to wear orange. But when I started hunting out-of-state, I started using camo. At first it was whatever was cheap at Wally World. But eventually I bought some King Desert Shadow, for hunting Coues deer in southern AZ and some Sitka Gear Subalpine, for hunting in Alaska. I use a KUIU Ultra 5500 backpack, in their digital camo pattern. I don't know what they call it.
ASAT and the old military woodland are the best I've
ever used for hunting. I would have just said ASAT, but
I've been around too many people that would shoot at
a patch of brown color without being absolutely sure of
what it was first, or those that make " sound shots "
Using pop up blinds these last few years, my " camo "
has been all black on top and whatever on bottom
Most of my stuff is that new fangled solid color camo.
We often refer to "that new fangled solid color camo" as Mujahideen or Taliban. Works pretty damn good...for human eyes.
I gotta wear a bright orange vest and hat when hunting, so don't see much need for camo, Besides, after 20 years of wearing it every day, I'm more than ok with solid colors.
Thanks Yetti...putting you down as "orange" camo (required by law).
KC...the Desert Shadow effective at relatively close ranges in sagebrush. Seeing lots of it in Eastern Washington, Oregon and Southern Arizona.
Idaho doesn't require orange. They let the hunter decide, not bureaucrats. I see about any color you like on the mountainsides - orange, plain, 2 dozen different camo patterns. I think a lot of camo is worn because guys want quality gear and it's only sold in camo.
Idaho doesn't require orange. They let the hunter decide, not bureaucrats. I see about any color you like on the mountainsides - orange, plain, 2 dozen different camo patterns. I think a lot of camo is worn because guys want quality gear and it's only sold in camo.
If Im on public land during a rifle hunt I will wear some orange because of the idiots even if not required.
Idaho doesn't require orange. They let the hunter decide, not bureaucrats. I see about any color you like on the mountainsides - orange, plain, 2 dozen different camo patterns. I think a lot of camo is worn because guys want quality gear and it's only sold in camo.
If you can't find quality gear that's not sold in camo you're not looking very hard.
camo is overrated, IMO
Don't skyline yourself.
Get something to break up the outline.
Any earth-tone solid works just as well.
I have been happy with the Kuiu camo. Vias I guess is the name of the pattern?
Have "tested" it several times, and it seems to work very well on human eyes, but I have no idea how it works on animal eyes. I hunt mostly in rocks, above timberline. Wouldn't guess it would do as well in green.
KC...the Desert Shadow effective at relatively close ranges in sagebrush. Seeing lots of it in Eastern Washington, Oregon and Southern Arizona.
Joe:
I like camo that doesn't turn black at 50 yards.
Idaho doesn't require orange. They let the hunter decide, not bureaucrats. I see about any color you like on the mountainsides - orange, plain, 2 dozen different camo patterns. I think a lot of camo is worn because guys want quality gear and it's only sold in camo.
If Im on public land during a rifle hunt I will wear some orange because of the idiots even if not required.
Not me. I don't want to be seen as I'm at a spot before daybreak. And I don't hunt around people either.
Problem solved ..grin .
KC...the Desert Shadow effective at relatively close ranges in sagebrush. Seeing lots of it in Eastern Washington, Oregon and Southern Arizona.
Joe:
I like camo that doesn't turn black at 50 yards.
Agree...got to be aware of backlighting which will make even the *best* camo appear darker. May be a good video project to demonstrate that effect.
At 50 yards, most guys will disappear regardless of the color, design, brand if surrounded by vegetation/rocks, etc. IF they stay still.
Combining "breakup" and "mimicry" and using the lighting conditions to your benefit is the key. As others have noted, maintaining being motionless and utilizing the military crest of a hill or ridge when moving is obviously critical.
Using a shemagh or veil can augment your effectiveness. IMO a boonie/human head, unless augmented with local natural materials is easily spotted...at least from a human's view.
For sagebrush, the Desert Shadow is the best I've seen, so far.
Mossy Oak, orange camo or plain orange depending upon weather and what’s in season here in PA.
Picked up some King's Camo Guide fleece for Winter cold temps on sale.
Picked up some balaclavas and neck gaiters from 0241 Tactical. Excellent quality!
I prefer the Gucci pattern
Yeah, probably get it to fit your pencil neck and limp wrists, better. You get matching open-toed sandals and man bun cover?
Idaho doesn't require orange. They let the hunter decide, not bureaucrats. I see about any color you like on the mountainsides - orange, plain, 2 dozen different camo patterns. I think a lot of camo is worn because guys want quality gear and it's only sold in camo.
If Im on public land during a rifle hunt I will wear some orange because of the idiots even if not required.
Not me. I don't want to be seen as I'm at a spot before daybreak. And I don't hunt around people either.
Problem solved ..grin .
No joke and for a lot of reasons.
I am a wrangler blue kind of person....for shirts/coats I normally use something plaid. Sometimes red plaid, but usually it is more of an earth tone. I like lighter colors, as dark colors---even if camo---look like a big dark blob at a distance to me. It is no big deal for a rifle hunter but for bowhunters I do think it is worth mentioning.
I own next to no camo and only wear orange when required to by law. I've found even with orange on the idiots will scope you and/or you'll show people where you're going, then you'll have company if you're in an easy access unit.
Greg's solution to that issue is solid, though sometimes it can be hard to do depending on where you're at.
Yeah, solids and plaids work well, especially in canyons and gullies with shadow. Brown is a better than green in many applications.
Rarely see people in the deserts, snowfields, mountains and forests of the Pacific Northwest EXCEPT those road hunting within yards of their rigs, usually at low elevations.
This year's cow elk was out in sagebrush at about 150 yds. I was wearing a dark green solid down jacket. She was actively involved in staring at me asking what the heck I was when I reduced her curiosity to a lump on the ground. They're not always that curious. She was with a bull that wasn't a lot more skittish. He also stood there while I shot her.
Whatever is on the milsurp, GoodWill, or eBay clothing I happen to be wearing. Frequently none at all. I don't hunt where orange is required; if I did, the orange would be ... orange. Preferably a hat.
Um, that's frequently no Camo at all, as hunting nude in Arizona is not recommended.
Perverts.
Picked up some ATACS AT-X ripstop to keep off that pesky snow-stuff on a set.
Faded Proper 100% Cotton ripstop BDU's in M81 woodland pattern.
Roomy and comfortable, cool in the Fall, dries quick, skeeter-proof, and a wind-proof shell in Winter.
Lace orange surveyor's tape into the Boonie hat loops, and slice a coupla orange vests into serpentine ribbons, wear one and put the other on my pack.
GR
Great sale at King's...picked up a Guide Fleece top, $60, very warm and well constructed...free shipping.
For the ASAT fans here, what is the new ASAT gear like in terms of quality? And also what does the material compare to? I guess I'm asking if the material is more like the trendy new stuff (kuiu, sitka, etc.).
Talking about the Highwood Hoody, Essential Pant, Hurstwic stuff, Layer Vest. Stuff is too expensive to just order and hope for the best. I love the pattern, but they're website really does a terrible job of describing or showing the product.
Just my opinion but fabric quality and type are exponentially more important that whats printed on them.
Id take arc'teryx over anything with mossyoak on it
Can't argue with that. Many variables to "camoflauge".
Hancock-I recommend day one for ASAT stuff
Craig
camo is overrated, IMO
Don't skyline yourself.
Get something to break up the outline.
Any earth-tone solid works just as well.
This. I like the new VSX, MAX-1 XT, Truetimber Prairie, and ATACS iX / AU pursonally. But there are so many "good" patterns out there it boggles my mind.
I love listening to guides conversations about the fashion show after the clients leave.
If you want to blend in, forget the fancy boutique patterns and get some wool with no UV signature
I love listening to guides conversations about the fashion show after the clients leave.
If you want to blend in, forget the fancy boutique patterns and get some wool with no UV signature
We did see a guy hunting bear with a goose gun on Mount Baker that wasn't wearing camo. Everyone else was.
You see plenty of "hunters" within 5 miles of the Southern Border that are not wearing camo. Plenty of hoodies with graphics, though.
I guide. I'm standing next to high dollar newest camo. Haven't been seen yet due to camo.
Its HIGHLY over rated and simply not needed for much.
I have some just cause thats the only way you get stuff for some reason IE stuff that has what I want.
Mostly I wear buckskin or brown Duluth trading and something on top. No telling what that might be. Blue. Black. Tan. duck camo rain jacket etc...
There are places where I feel camo is needed. Mostly thats birds.
Even sheep with keen eyes. Keep the scent away and no movement and life is good.
In fact I tend to think that most camo is WAY too busy. That a different color top and bottom are as effective if not more so.
Were I to buy into camo I'd not have top and bottom same style.
If you just look in nature a TINY bit you will realize how not needed camo is. Heck deer aren't camo. They are hard to see lots of the time... in fact I've yet to see a camo animal.
I have a good collection of success shots while wearing pumpkin camo. The animals didn't seem to mind. Most of my camo stuff is because I couldn't find reasonably priced stuff in anything other than camo.
You forgot "face paint".
Yeah...everyone knows the biggest part of a deer is brown.
Scent and movement...check.
When you hear someone commenting in another language on how expensive your watch is...cover over concealment, all day.
I have been using Multicam/OCP for some time and it seems to be a good all rounder for Montana. I have also used German Flecktarn for the mountains and it blends well.
Multicam and Flectarn have their positives.
Here are a few videos that demonstrate some of the different cam patterns....................obviously not all terrains and lighting or weather conditions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy6HhdDTW2Ehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD5eJKFyYFwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUTIvWge0NMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1Nfr6OwD7QObviously staying immobile is most effective regardless what you're wearing in various foliage terrain combinations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4ea-0r0owwSEARCH OTHERS if interested...