Anyone run one? I’m thinking about a vortex venom to ride atop my Glock 45.

Do it and don’t look back . “Threat” or target focused shooting suits me so much better

I have the Vortex Venom on my G17 MOS, it came on the pistol when I bought it. I figured I’d run it till it quit, send it in for warranty, sell the new one and buy an RMR.

Dang thing won’t die.

It has some glare that an RMR doesn’t have but the dot is bright and view is clearer except with the sun behind me. But for the price, it’s a fair dot.

They work for sure & will likely make you a better shooter....................

But I hate seeing them on a gun.

MM

I would say no to the Venom and choose a model with “instant on”. I own several venoms/vipers/rmr/holosun.

Oops, I have the Viper

Same thing...

I like them on a deer hunting revolver.

Had the Bushnell 25 that did well for a couple of years. Am now on year 3 or 4 of a Vortex Venom. Much easier for my eyes than iron sights. Agree with those who find them an abomination. They badly unbalance a handgun.

My 60 year old eyes like them more every day. I currently have red dots on 4 handguns (2 hunting revolvers, a 9mm and a 22 LR). I just ordered another red dot sight today for a Sig P365XL.

I'm and RMR fan myself. My youngest daughter turned in this group at a family shoot a while back:



It was her first time shooting a Glock (She's a Sig fan), and the first time shooting a red dot equipped pistol.

YESSSSSSSSS

I bought a new Kimber with a Vortex already mounted on it last year. MUCH faster and very accurate. The future of handgun sights is now...

I have a RMR on my Glock 40, 10mm. I dont love it.

3 Trijicon RMRs myself. But, to be fair, I've never ran anything else. Found what worked, I liked it, and never looked back.

I have a Venom on my G40. Love it! Very accurate!

I have a G17 with an RMR. Its as much of an enhancement to the pistol as a red dot on a rifle.

Another RMR guy here and while it is a tough sight, it has taken a bit to get use to finding that red dot quickly. I’m sure that it is just muscle memory, but I think that I would have been a little happier with the larger window on the Tijicon SRO. I do see where Tijicon just brought out a RMRcc miniature red dot for the cc crowd on the smaller handguns. They sure improved my .45’s hit ability, but for concealed carry, I still prefer a good set of fiber optic sights.

I use more Burris Fastfires currently, but also have several Holosums and a couple of C Mores.

Mike Holmes

Trijicon RMR is undoubtedly the most rugged. Leupold DeltaPoint Pro is a solid optic as well.

I have RMR's on two hunting revolvers, a Fastfire on a Buckmark, a Holosun on a P320 and am waiting on another Holosun for the P365XL.

I prefer the Trijicon RMR and the Shield RMS-C, as they are always on and auto-adjust to the light conditions.

I've got a couple of other Micro red dots, that either you have to turn on/off or they do not auto-adjust (sometimes due to lighting the red dot can be washed out), so I much prefer the RMR/Shield. They're worth the extra coin.

Jerry

If your life depends on this gun then don’t be stingy with the scope/reddot you put on it. Leupold or Trijicon.

I just put a Burris Fastfire 3 on my S&W 629 that I use for deer hunting. Haven’t had chance to field test yet but I think it will accommodate my poor 61 year old eyes as I can hardly see open sights anymore. I have not put red dots in any of my carry guns yet. Also thinking of putting one on AR.

My ccw is a Shadow Systems MR918 with an RMR and its superb to my uses and wants.

Due to how Shadow Systems cuts their RMR slots they use standard sights and still cowitness. The Trijicon RMR is of course great in this role.

I want to try out the Holosun 507 with it’s closed lens emitter as it supposedly cuts down on the need to clean the glass to keep the dot from flaring on a dirty lens. Lots of LE buddies swear by them as well

A Holosun 507K micro red dot just arrived today for my P365XL. Been waiting on this one for months...

I just added the Trijicon SRO to my Glock 19 Gen 5 and a Holosun HE507C-GR-X2 to my Glock 19 Gen 4. They're both great sights but, based on my initial observations, I think this Holosun 507C with the green circle-dot will end up as my favorite. Can't wait to get them out to the range!!

Just finished mounting the 507K on the P365XL. Dont know why Sig has to tighten those screws that hold the rear sight/mount plate on so damn tight. One came out fine and the other was so tight the hex head stripped. I was sweating bullets drilling the head of the screw off trying not to bugger the under side of the slide. Came out fine but damn...

Had to do the same on an X Compact.

Do us a favor and let us know how that works out. I have a P365XL that I've been thinking of: a) selling/trading or b) buying either a 507K or a Romeo Zero and just keeping it. From what I read, the Romeo Zero seems to work "fine"; but, that the Holosun 507K is more robust.

Will do - initial impression is that the dot is very quick to acquire compared to my other red dots (RMR, Fastfire and HS507C). That surprised me with the small windshield, but the 32moa circle/dot reticle pretty much fills the window so it's almost impossible to not pick up the reticle. The front sight is just visible under the circle/dot and the built in rear sight notch gives a bit of a cowitness.

I have a sig 227 that I’d like to put a reflexive red dot on eventually but not sure what modifications would be needed.

Thanks for all the replies. Haven’t bought it yet but I’m pretty much decided on the holosun 507c x2

Dave, the guys that get real serious about mounting up a reflex red dot sight have their slide milled to fit the footprint of what they want to mount. That was more extreme than I wanted to get with my Para .45acp because I didn't know if I wanted to keep that RMR on that handgun or not. I contacted Evolution Gun Works out of Quakertown, PA. (egwguns.com) and they supplied an adapter plate that pressed into the rear sight dovetail. It mounts a little higher than the milled slide option and you can't use the rear sight to co-witness with the red dot, but it works great for someone who doesn't want to have their slide milled out and still mount up a red dot or go back to using the iron sights in the future. They should have a plate that will fit your 227 Glock dovetail. My adapter plate cost $58.49 with the shipping.

Is there a Red Dot narrow enough to fit on a 1911 without hanging over the sides of the slide??

I know the slide will have to be milled for mounting.

The RMR is on a lot of 1911s.


I run an RMR on a G17.

Big cat was on my trail.

Perfect, thanks! Just the information I was looking for and will definitely look into EGW as I didn’t want to have the milling done.

Who mills Glock slides for low profile red dots??

Agency Arms maybe?

Ordered up my holosun a few days ago. Should be arriving soon. Reports to follow

I have been wanting to try one of this dovetail apadpter plates on my XDM.
Has this been reliable? Hold zero?

This looks interesting:

Mine doesn’t wobble if that is any indication. EGW has a lot of these mounting plates and I don’t shoot my Para all that often, but if it has changed zero, I sure can’t tell it. EGW did not have a mount specifically for the Para, but years back I had my handgun reworked that included a Novak rear sight and dovetail and EGW did have a Novak mount. My gunsmith did the base install with a sight pusher and it is really tight. Mine is just a range toy and the Commander size Para- P12 is a whole lot more accurate in my hands than it ever was with the iron sights. I get a few of the firearm periodicals every month and the red dot sights are sure showing up in the magazines way more than they use to. My edc handguns still have open sights and the CZ has the fiber optic sight set that I like.

While I can shoot more accurately with the red dot, because it sticks up higher than the fiber optics, I think that it could snag on clothing more easily for an edc sight.

Got my Holosun mounted up and zeroed today. I’ve spent a career gunning irons so this will take a bit to get used to.

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I recently bought a Swampfox Sentinel to install on my Canik Elite SC. Haven't shot with a red dot before, but they have my interest.

the sentinels are kinda tiny, but once you get used to them, they are kinda handy....

I have two of these on order and can't wait to get them mounted up and rolling. That reticle is a game-changer IMO.....

I just made my second trip to the range with a Holosun 507K X2 on my Sig P365 XL, and I feel the same way! I find the whole thing rather distracting, especially the circle dot reticle on this sight which covers up a lot of a small target at distance. But then, when I go to the dot only, I have a harder time picking it up, and then I find myself chasing it around on the target instead of shooting the darn thing. I don't know how much ammo I am willing to allocate to this experiment.

I just got a Canik TP9FSx and want to try an optic on top. It comes with plates for the popular styles. To keep the cost down I want to use Cabela's points up. Unfortunately their selection SUCKS these days. On the lower end the choice is between the Vortex Venom or Viper. Main difference is 3 vs. 6 moa dot. Both can be had for $250 and they have a good warranty. Stepping up double the cost, they do have the RMR. The Holosun 507C is not available, nor is the Leupold or Burris. Until I know I like them I'm not ready to spend $500 on the optic so I guess it will be one of the Vortex. I'll just be banging steel and shooting informal targets for now. Rest of the time is will be a house gun with a light on it. I'm leaning to the 6MOA due to research saying it is easier to pickup and so forth. I won't be head shooting squirrels with this rig so which one would you go with?

Resale on RMRs is pretty good. I don't know about the Vortex dots in comparison. It may be that the RMR is less of a risk financially, I would look into that first.