I am down to only 20 rds. of new .380 ACP left in my cartridge box and have 12 rds in two magazines for my Kahr CW 380. Normally I swap out the ammo after a year of carry but rotated my two mags instead, from the one I carry in my pocket to the one in my backpack side pocket as these are now over two years old.

Cannot find .380 that will work in my mechanically tight Kahr, this gun is ammo finicky. Why they chose all those tight tolerances for a close range defensive pistol is beyond me? I simply cannot just run any brand in this pistol, as there are some of those mini-boxes of 20 rds, but not the brand I know to work. 9 mm is easily available, but not .380, why is that?

Supply and demand. The demand for 9mm Luger is much higher than .380 ACP. And probably explains why 9mm Luger prices are often lower than 380 ACP, as there is a lot of competition to sell.

This comes up from time to time. It's because .380 ACP represents a small minority of their sales. Think about how many police departments make huge 9mm orders (or .40 S&W or .45 ACP) vs how many rounds of .380 ACP are purchased annually. They only do occasional runs of .380 ACP, while they pump those others out continually. Most who carry a .380 ACP don't do a lot of shooting with them.

It does. The OP posted the exact same topic about 6 weeks ago. The ammo is out there, he just doesn't want to pay the prevailing price.
https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...26632/where-is-the-380-ammo#Post16126632
Here's who has it in stock...
SGAmmo. https://www.sgammo.com/catalog/pistol-ammo-sale/380-auto-ammo
Ammotogo. https://www.ammunitiontogo.com/index.php/cName/pistol-ammo-380-auto

Yep. It's out there. LGS here even has it.

Yep. I see some from time to time.

Haven’t shot my old LCP .380 in over a year. I’m too tight. 🤠

I have seen a lot of it lately as well as 9mm.

Until recently, I even had trouble finding .380 bullets to load, other than FMJ round nose.

Use 12 of your new 20 to switch out ammo and get on a bunch of notification lists for your preferred ammo. Why keep old ammo in your gun if you still have new stuff?

I usually pocket carry a Bersa thunder cc & I haven't seen any shells locally only online. I've got a couple boxes of good hollow points, & maybe 1/2 a box of ball ammo. I shoot it every so often to make sure it functions. Purely self defense up close gun, no need to run a bunch of rounds through it. It's always been higher than 9mm, not an economical round.

Nowadays, there is the proliferation of subcompact 9mms, like the Sig P365 and many of similar size/performance.

I'd imagine considering the recent events of lawlessness, many gun buyers may feel better going with the small 9mm, than the 380.

If any of that is so, it could up the demand for 9mm that much more, and less overall demand for 380 ammo.

What load are you looking for?

I have a bit. All old stock.

Search federalpremium.com and buy directly from the manufacturer...it comes up every now and again.

Just gotta shop around. Stop into the local shops you frequent. When people know you they often have it behind the counter for customers they know by name, or at least by looks if you are in there enough. Those shops most often have it at decent prices too.

thank you leaky waders, i just ordered some needed ammo. cheers.

I have found my Kahr likes, Speer, Federal, and Aguilla brands well. Winchester shoots low and to the right, Remington jams after every 4th round. Too afraid to try others as this might be a waste of money if it does not work. I used to have a Ruger EC-9 that carried well, bigger and heavier than my .380, but it was stolen in a burglary, Might get another one but there are so many compact 9''s to choose from now including double stacked mag. I prefer solid bullets over hollow points as the .380 is so marginal that the FMJ's will penetrate into the vitals better in the torso..

Call these people https://precisiononeammunition.com/ but don't waste any time.

Pricey

Buffalo bore has some great .380 rounds in stock, and decent price for good carry rounds

I carry the exact same gun daily in my front pocket haven’t found anything it won’t feed

Get a Ruger LCP 380. They’ll feed everything.

Good stuff !

This?

I prefer their Hard Cast loads.

Figure it ought to out penatrate all other .380 rounds. 🤠

Better yet, ditch the .380 and get a Sig 365/

I’ve got one of those too.

Kahrs have a rep for being very reliable. My 9 never once bobbled, even new.

Yep. The original 9mm I bought new when they came out was very reliable. No experience with their 380 version, though.

I am not a fan of expanding 380 bullets. I don’t mind them deforming but pretty weary of the full expanding type.

A 380 side story… In the 90s I called in a small coyote. He came in fast and at about 10 yards I shot him lengthwise with a 22 Magnum. I stood up expecting to see him but he was gone with just a few speckles of blood around. I looked everywhere for him but couldn’t find him. I move down the wash to find another calling spot I started calling in a vast direction. Here comes a coyote running in with its left front leg swinging. Blood around its arm pit. I bet you that’s the one I shot I thought. He stopped 300 yards out I threw the rifle up and sent a Hail Mary. Unbelievably he had a seat I had hit him! I broke his spine near his hips. When I walked up to him he was sitting upright like a dog and I pulled out a Walther PPK stroked with 90 grain federal Hydra shocks and shot him broadside in the heart at less than 3 feet. When I picked him up, the Hydra Shock was laying on top of the sand fully expanded. This bullet had its last bit exit the dog. MAYBE 4-5 inches of penetration. What a rodeo what a stroke of luck.
Sorry not very good at telling stories.

if the OP pistol is so dependent on a particular brand, I wonder why he did not state exactly what he was looking for.

Just recently sold my P9 Kahr, but I had it since first introduced in the 1990s. Same thing. Never a single bobble after countless thousands of rounds. It was my daily carry for many years throughout the 1990s and early 2000s. That fact made it hard to part with, but I have so many handguns of that type now that fit that bill even better, that I couldn't justify keeping it. But that was a gun I'd bet my life on.

PS The Kahr K9 (the first of the series) was such a huge game changers in concealed handguns, as it was the first single stack 9mm that was roughly the size of a single stack .380 ACP auto pistol, like say a Sig P230. It redefined compact, concealed carry, 9mm pistols.

I would still have mine, but it’s one of those ones that pinches the end of my trigger finger. I still hold them in high regard.

Around here , 380 has always been about double the price if 9mm.
Demand is real high and so are prices

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This comes up from time to time. It's because .380 ACP represents a small minority of their sales. Think about how many police departments make huge 9mm orders (or .40 S&W or .45 ACP) vs how many rounds of .380 ACP are purchased annually. They only do occasional runs of .380 ACP, while they pump those others out continually. Most who carry a .380 ACP don't do a lot of shooting with them. [/quote]

This is it in a nutshell. No huge overproduction of 380's just.make enough based on past sales amounts. Besides the performance of 9mm luger being superior there is no reason to own a 380 period. Mb

There is whole lot of assumptions packed in the statement but I guess it’s not going to impact the popularity of the 380.

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