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Posted By: boatboy 40S&W - 10/04/21
I seen a face book post that in my mind I am pretty sure BS

Well a guy shows a S&W semi that was a 40 blown in half

So of course many people responded they seen this before its an issue with 40S&W of course some more than one time

And of course thats why I carry only steel frame
Blah blah blah


I have,never heard there was any typical issues with 40 and this is FB bs? I assume so
Shot and shoot a fair amount of 40 no issues

Am I correct?

Hank
Posted By: Mannlicher Re: 40S&W - 10/04/21
well if you saw it on the internet, it has to be true. lol
Posted By: SargeMO Re: 40S&W - 10/04/21
And if the F aggct Checkers didn't dispute it, it MUST be true!
Posted By: ratsmacker Re: 40S&W - 10/04/21
Kentucky Department of Fish and Wildlife (possum cops) started off carrying M&P .40s, and sometime shortly thereafter, switched to Glock 22s, I overheard a couple of them talking about it once, they said the Smiths were having a lot of issues, nothing about them blowing up or in half, though. I know of Fiocchi factory ammo in .40 cal. blowing out case heads, usually in Glocks, but that wouldn't explain about M&Ps having issues.


You see and hear all kinds of nonsense and balderdash, and some poppycock, too, on FB. Especially regarding guns. Take it all with a grain of salt, hell, take a whole damned salt block.
Posted By: Slavek Re: 40S&W - 10/04/21
If I wanted inexpensive striker-fired plastic-framed .40S&W I would simply buy Gen 5 Glock. These are improved version of previous generations which were carried by many police department before they switched back to 9x19. What amazes me is that people buy these S&W guns and then waste time and money buying some kind of Apex triggers to improve trigger pulls. That seems pretty stupid thing to do, si? Everyone knows by now that new production Walthers have best triggers in striker-fired plastic-framed pistol category.
Posted By: Garandimal Re: 40S&W - 10/04/21
Originally Posted by boatboy
I seen a face book post that in my mind I am pretty sure BS

Well a guy shows a S&W semi that was a 40 blown in half

So of course many people responded they seen this before its an issue with 40S&W of course some more than one time

And of course thats why I carry only steel frame
Blah blah blah


I have,never heard there was any typical issues with 40 and this is FB bs? I assume so
Shot and shoot a fair amount of 40 no issues

Am I correct?

Hank

The only issue is: that because of the fact that the .40 is an optimized round, especially w/ the 180 gr. bullet, it is more sensitive to bullet setback.

Other than that, it is a 35K psi cartridge like the inferior 9mm Para.

And if you are interested in a striker-fired tupperware .40...?

The GLOCK G23.4 is the way to go.

The Gen 4 improvements successfully addressed all the issues w/ the .40 chambering.

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GR
Posted By: 260Remguy Re: 40S&W - 10/04/21
My only 40 S&W is a S&W 4006, never have any problems with it and never hope to.
Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye Re: 40S&W - 10/04/21
Originally Posted by boatboy
I seen a face book post that in my mind I am pretty sure BS

Well a guy shows a S&W semi that was a 40 blown in half

So of course many people responded they seen this before its an issue with 40S&W of course some more than one time

And of course thats why I carry only steel frame
Blah blah blah


I have,never heard there was any typical issues with 40 and this is FB bs? I assume so
Shot and shoot a fair amount of 40 no issues

Am I correct?

Hank

Kabooms with .40 S&W chambered handguns has been a common theme for decades. Particularly early Glocks in that chambering.
Posted By: Just a Hunter Re: 40S&W - 10/04/21
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
My only 40 S&W is a S&W 4006, never have any problems with it and never hope to.


I had one of those. It was a dandy pistol. Sold it to buy a 40 in the Browning Hi Power. Still have the Hi Power, but wished I could have afforded both at the time.
Posted By: RMoran Re: 40S&W - 10/04/21

Every gun out there has an example of kabooming.

There is a lot of internet hate for the 40S&W...mostly from people who don't know a world existed before the G19 and bonded 9mm

The G22 has always been problematic..it has issues running with a light and kabooming

Dept of Energy had one go high order that was traced back to round be chambered an excessive amount of times

The M&P came about before the Gen4 glock..so I had a better LOP for me, it ran with a light in 40, had a thumb safety, and was reliable.

Trigger upgrades are regularly done on all kinds of guns, including glocks.

Oddly, it was only the full size MP 9mm that had accuracy issues...I had an early 45 that shot like a laser. Enough so, that Larry Vickers commented on it in a class.

The 2.0 guns are great.

I like the 40, but shoot more 9mm these days. I wouldnt worry about one blowing up.
Posted By: dla Re: 40S&W - 10/04/21
Originally Posted by boatboy
I seen a face book post that in my mind I am pretty sure BS

Well a guy shows a S&W semi that was a 40 blown in half

So of course many people responded they seen this before its an issue with 40S&W of course some more than one time

And of course thats why I carry only steel frame
Blah blah blah


I have,never heard there was any typical issues with 40 and this is FB bs? I assume so
Shot and shoot a fair amount of 40 no issues

Am I correct?

Hank

There are lots of feucktards who will parrot forum rumors over and over. Learn to ignore them. Some of them have really high post counts on this forum....

The 40sw is just another pistol cartridge - nothing special. I can tell you that the 2.0 M&P has the best casehead support I've seen and I don't think a double-charge will blow out the casemouth before something else lets go. Probably why I've never seen an M&P kaboom.
Posted By: SargeMO Re: 40S&W - 10/04/21
The 40 is an excellent cartridge. Glock has had some chamber support issues over the years and yes, there were documented cases of them KaBooming with Factory ammunition straight from the box.

https://www.thesixgunjournal.net/an...ack-thereof-in-glock-40-caliber-pistols/
Posted By: RoninPhx Re: 40S&W - 10/04/21
few years ago, entirely my own fault, a loaded a .40s&w shell without powder but live primer. bullet stuck in barrel. then i proceded to fire a correct 40s &w shell hitting the squib load.
cracked barrel, blew off front part of slide, and that was about it.
a poster on here sold me a new top slide and i got a new barrel. no more issues, runs fine.
that was in a glock 23 third generation.
Posted By: Esox357 Re: 40S&W - 10/05/21
I fired 1000s of rounds through both Glock 22 and 23 models, never an issue! Never witnessed or seen a kaboom. The alleged Kabooms that have supposedly happened, were rumored to be from firing out of battery from my understanding, which were the result of worn/damaged recoil springs. I did see a newbie drop g 23 slide on concrete and bend/damage the rail on the slide which could not function correctly and another time the spring in the slide (slide lock spring) had broke but allowed the shooter to finish shooting the entire mag before the slide fell off the gun and hit the ground. A replacement slring fixed the issue.and never heard to this day of it failing again from the shooter. This from a g23 that had unknown rounds through it. Many LE federal, state, and local use the Glock 40 SW.
Posted By: bsa1917hunter Re: 40S&W - 10/05/21
Originally Posted by Just a Hunter
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
My only 40 S&W is a S&W 4006, never have any problems with it and never hope to.


I had one of those. It was a dandy pistol. Sold it to buy a 40 in the Browning Hi Power. Still have the Hi Power, but wished I could have afforded both at the time.

That's a tank of a pistol, and a very good one. The 40 is no match for it. I also have one and have fired 1,000's of rounds through it. Never an issue.
Posted By: P_Weed Re: 40S&W - 10/05/21
I heard a .40 S&W caliber joke that will really crack you up!
Posted By: Exchipy Re: 40S&W - 10/05/21
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by Just a Hunter
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
My only 40 S&W is a S&W 4006, never have any problems with it and never hope to.


I had one of those. It was a dandy pistol. Sold it to buy a 40 in the Browning Hi Power. Still have the Hi Power, but wished I could have afforded both at the time.

That's a tank of a pistol, and a very good one. The 40 is no match for it. I also have one and have fired 1,000's of rounds through it. Never an issue.

Talk about a tank? This 4006 Performance Center Comp-40 came from S&W with a 5-3/8โ€ Bar-Sto barrel installed in a Briley spherical bushing:
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It lacks only a dust cover accessory rail for attaching the wheels.

Posted By: boatboy Re: 40S&W - 10/06/21
As I thought more FB crap

My favorite was when I read on line quite a while ago

40 S&W worst caliber ever ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

Thanks for the input
Hank
Posted By: Garandimal Re: 40S&W - 10/06/21
Originally Posted by boatboy
As I thought more FB crap

My favorite was when I read on line quite a while ago

40 S&W worst caliber ever ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

Thanks for the input
Hank

Purpose-built Superior Service Round.



... and good as ever.




GR
Posted By: RMoran Re: 40S&W - 10/06/21
Originally Posted by boatboy
As I thought more FB crap

My favorite was when I read on line quite a while ago

40 S&W worst caliber ever ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

Thanks for the input
Hank


I wouldnt call it crap. PDs having reliability issues with .40cal Glocks is well documented. The unsupported case head in the G22 is known also.

Modern 9mm loads are the equal of modern 40 & 45 loads.
Posted By: Esox357 Re: 40S&W - 10/06/21
Rmoran, Which PDs?
Posted By: SargeMO Re: 40S&W - 10/06/21
Originally Posted by Garandimal
Originally Posted by boatboy
As I thought more FB crap

My favorite was when I read on line quite a while ago

40 S&W worst caliber ever ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

Thanks for the input
Hank

Purpose-built Superior Service Round.



... and good as ever.

GR


That and the HST/165 are kick-ass 40 loads. I've shot three deer with them that were excited and fully ambulatory after being hit by vehicles. In two cases they were headed toward busy 4 lanes and one was headed through the woods toward a school as buses were loading. Two crossways through both shoulders and another from above, centered between the shoulders and out the chest between the front legs. None made it one stride after the hit and stayed where they fell. Solves 2-legged problems with authority.. Shuts down big drug house dogs (2-4 hits on those mofos) scrotes like to let out when 5-0 is in the neighborhood,

Having killed 12-18 deer with various mag revolvers and the 45 Colt, I was surprised how well the 40 HST works. There's not a damn thing under 400 pounds I'm afraid to square off with using the 180..
Posted By: RMoran Re: 40S&W - 10/06/21
Originally Posted by Esox357
Rmoran, Which PDs?



Google it.

I know for a fact DOE has
Posted By: viking Re: 40S&W - 10/06/21
So if we have โ€œmodernโ€ 9,40,45 bullets, wouldnโ€™t the bigger better thing still apply?
Posted By: Raferman Re: 40S&W - 10/06/21
Not to the cartridge myopic among us.
Posted By: keith Re: 40S&W - 10/06/21
SargeMO, thanks for that post! I have a bunch of the 180g HST.
Posted By: UPhiker Re: 40S&W - 10/06/21
Originally Posted by viking
So if we have โ€œmodernโ€ 9,40,45 bullets, wouldnโ€™t the bigger better thing still apply?
Yeah, to a degree but when does "good enough" kick in? There's also the power vs capacity argument, too. So if a modern 9mm is more effective than the original .40 loads, is it enough?
Posted By: goalie Re: 40S&W - 10/06/21
Originally Posted by viking
So if we have โ€œmodernโ€ 9,40,45 bullets, wouldnโ€™t the bigger better thing still apply?


No, no, no, they only put modern tech in them 9mm bullets.

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But, in reality, good hits are good hits with any "real" caliber, and more is better.
Posted By: viking Re: 40S&W - 10/07/21
Yeah I was just stoking the fire.
Posted By: Esox357 Re: 40S&W - 10/07/21
No im asking you?
Posted By: Garandimal Re: 40S&W - 10/08/21
Even the $18/50 box Government over-run works great.






GR
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