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Blew both shoulders. No rifles for this Guy. Did some research, bought a Glock long slide 10mm. Longer custom barrel, Trijicon optic New springs and 3.5 lb trigger. I CANNOT SHOOT THIS DAMN THING RELIABLY WITH THE FRIGGIN CREEP IN THE TRIGGER. So, advice please. Feel free to bash the Newbie handgunner.
Try factory trigger on a Walther PDP.
A simple polish job will improve the trigger dramatically
Google is your friend.
Yes, the M&P 2.0 smile

Seriously, it takes a while to get used to the Glock trigger. I used to balance things on the muzzle while dry firing. Keep at it and avoid spending money on anything except ammo and gas to get to the range. You can't get better by playing dress up with your pistol.
Me.... Shooting off the Bench. OK, Pretend Ginormous Buck at 50yards........ Nerves, rest against the tree... Deep Breath... 4 Miles of trigger before the break.. That Buck already [bleep] four ready does 80 acres away.....
You don't need to add parts to the gun.

The fact is that you cannot buy proficiency. Pistol shooting is a skill set, and a quickly perishable one. You have to constantly practice, and trigger control is critical.

Work on mastering the trigger you have and don't change a thing. Hundreds upon hundreds of one shot drills, trying to shoot garage sale dots will be a good place to start. Much like lifting weights, you will wear yourself out quickly at first, and when you see a significant drop in your performance, stop for the day. Your initial range sessions will be short, but as you become conditioned (just like weight training) you will be able to shoot more, and more accurately.

The next session may see you shoot 75 rounds before your performance starts to go south and you need to stop. Continuing on, after you are tired and your performance is showing no improvement is not doing any good. Just stop and save your ammo.

Given time and repeated practice sessions you will find that you can shoot a Glock exceptionally well. Making repeated 100 yard shots on a USPSA target with a .45 caliber G21 is no big deal. It just takes practice.
Waiting for Mackey to give crappy advice.
Haven't seen it yet.





A great trigger makes a gun easier to shoot.
Pro and amateur alike.

A good shooter can do good work with a Glock trigger.
It is really not that bad. Just long and mushy.
It will expose your issues.
A light, very short trigger will hide them.
Practicing with a 40 cal barrel will save you some money while you are learning. Google 25 cent trigger job for Glock and that helps. A Zev competition spring kit will really make it nice.
Lots a great advice here and experience.

Fit can also make a difference. Dremel a nub off…
I went with a Timney trigger. It’s definitely on the expensive side but it improved drastically.
Originally Posted by Rifleman1st
Me.... Shooting off the Bench. OK, Pretend Ginormous Buck at 50yards........ Nerves, rest against the tree... Deep Breath... 4 Miles of trigger before the break.. That Buck already [bleep] four ready does 80 acres away.....

You're trying to fire a rifle. Fire a pistol instead, and a Glock at that. A double action revolver trigger is a better comparison - roll the trigger and minimize any sight disturbance. Your optic will help with that. Pull the trigger purposefully STRAIGHT BACK without disturbing the sight. Success will come from a combination of the proper grip, grip strength, and your skill in pulling the trigger without moving the pistol. Usually, newer shooters don't grip as firmly as they should (squeeze the crap out of it), but other than that - dry fire, experiment, dry fire...
I was not bad at all, shooting my Glock 40, but went ahead and installed Ghost 3.5 connector anyway. I shoot better now.
Good triggers make good shooters better. Nothing takes the place of practice. As Mackay said above. Hasbeen
I think what helps me most is focusing on squeezing those grips between the palm of my hands, putting the pressure on from my forearms, and not clenching it with my fingers. That helps to keep that trigger finger action independent of everything else so it doesn't disturb your grip/aim. Don't know if that's correct or not, but it seems to work for me. It helps negate any trigger pull issues.
Originally Posted by supercrewd
Practicing with a 40 cal barrel will save you some money while you are learning. Google 25 cent trigger job for Glock and that helps. A Zev competition spring kit will really make it nice.

That .40 barrel will also extend your endurance for practice. Extended sessions with a 10mm can be punishing. I have shot a couple of 100 round+ events with my Glock 20 for one reason or another, and by the end of the day I was glad it's over. I'm not as tough as I used to think I was.
Mackay is dead on.

A good dry fire drill is to put a dime on the front sight and dry fire without the dime falling off. Practice squeezing the trigger without squeezing your hand. Handgun shooting isn’t like rifle shooting and it takes much more practice. No striker fired pistol trigger will feel like a rifle. I’ve carried and shot Glock pistols for twenty years. The triggers are functional combat triggers, not the greatest but certainly adequate.

Follow through and control after the shot are very important with a pistol. Practice practice practice. Dry fire can be just as beneficial as live fire. Get you some 180 fmj practice ammo if you can find it instead of the full house stuff until you get used to it.
Canick or Walther PPQ not try the new pdp or something like that yet
Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush
You don't need to add parts to the gun.

The fact is that you cannot buy proficiency. Pistol shooting is a skill set, and a quickly perishable one. You have to constantly practice, and trigger control is critical.

Work on mastering the trigger you have and don't change a thing. Hundreds upon hundreds of one shot drills, trying to shoot garage sale dots will be a good place to start. Much like lifting weights, you will wear yourself out quickly at first, and when you see a significant drop in your performance, stop for the day. Your initial range sessions will be short, but as you become conditioned (just like weight training) you will be able to shoot more, and more accurately.

The next session may see you shoot 75 rounds before your performance starts to go south and you need to stop. Continuing on, after you are tired and your performance is showing no improvement is not doing any good. Just stop and save your ammo.

Given time and repeated practice sessions you will find that you can shoot a Glock exceptionally well. Making repeated 100 yard shots on a USPSA target with a .45 caliber G21 is no big deal. It just takes practice.
I was at first tempted to say that the best trigger for a Glock can be found on a 1911. But then, I saw this excellent advice from Mackay Sagebush. He and I certainly do have our disagreements, but not on this subject.
Originally Posted by hasbeen1945
Good triggers make good shooters better. Nothing takes the place of practice. As Mackay said above. Hasbeen

This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

All the competition guys have trigger jobs done. But here is no substitute for practice.
Lots of advice here but not much mention of a "better trigger." I shot a few Glock 26's and though they feel like a rock or potato in hand, I good hit because there was a nice, clean breaking wall. My Glock 20 gen 4 has an AK trigger or SKS. Even with the 3.5 lb ghost connector you never know when the thing might break. [bleep] triggers make you a better marksman for sure, but it really is a lot of work. I hate to put more money into this thing, it's expensive enough. The HIVIZ front shoots way low besides. Apex seems to get most favorable mention. I'm not sure I want to shoot this thing enough to justify perfecting it. That's one to consider for sure due to popularity alone. Zev might be the best but more competition focused.
I didn't put a whole trigger in mine - I used about 90 worth of various ZEV parts - some they don't make anymore.

It won't ever be a 1911 but it did make my staple gun feel like a pro-staple gun trigger grin
Originally Posted by Rifleman1st
Blew both shoulders. No rifles for this Guy. Did some research, bought a Glock long slide 10mm. Longer custom barrel, Trijicon optic New springs and 3.5 lb trigger. I CANNOT SHOOT THIS DAMN THING RELIABLY WITH THE FRIGGIN CREEP IN THE TRIGGER. So, advice please. Feel free to bash the Newbie handgunner.

I'd say you did some pretty schitty research.

LOL
Originally Posted by Slavek
Try factory trigger on a Walther PDP.




Or.......Springfield XD-M Elite


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Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush
Making repeated 100 yard shots on a USPSA target with a .45 caliber G21 is no big deal. It just takes practice.
Mackay nails it again--not just shots but respectable groups.

There's no reason that a current Glock pistol can't be as accurate as any other handgun, but you have to learn a new trigger technique and push through the travel in that trigger. That said, several things outside the pistol can make your life a living Hell of doubt and frustration until you figure them out:

1. Glock triggers smooth up with use. Google "25 cent trigger job," which gives the same result as cycling the Glock several thousand times. Do that trigger job on the stock parts and reinstall them in the gun.

2. Test ammo. A lot of it, especially FMJ training loads, will make the gun go bang but that's about all. Duty-grade JHPs tend to be very accurate. Chances are that your gun will shoot better with one load than it does with others. 10mm is expensive, so there's even more of a tendency to go cheap on ammo or components, especially with commercial reloaders.

3. Put the factory barrel back in and work with it for a while. Not all custom barrels are an improvement, especially if the drop-in ones. Truth be told, current Glock barrels are probably as good as any on the market. Some of the earlier ones had challenges, but that's far less common today.

4. Red-dot sights can take some getting used to. If you were ever able to shoot iron sights well, go back to those before you throw that pistol in the trash heap.

5. The Glock trigger stroke is far more like a DA revolver than like a fine rifle, so sink some finger on that trigger. With the striker down, determine where your finger needs to lie on the trigger to make the last millimeter or so of travel straight to the rear. Then start with your finger in that position. It may be a lot deeper into the trigger guard than you'd expect.

As Mackay pointed out, master that trigger stroke and don't let your skills die. You'll soon be winning lunch money from the unbelievers.


Okie John
Go back & read what both JOG & Mackay said for starters.

A striker fired pistol will never be like a 1911 or a good revolver single action.

Besides what both JOG & Mackay said, you need to learn to pull a striker fired gun straight through...............you cannot ease through it like a 1911 or you will never be able to shoot it well. Once you start the trigger pull, just pull straight though; the trick is do do it smoothly w/o jerking it.

As for making the trigger better, a ZEV V4 connector & a competition trigger spring (it's actually heavier) will usually bring the trigger pull down to around 3.5 - 4 lb but it will be somewhat crisper................that's about all you're going to get out of a Glock.

The Double Diamond connector is also as good as the V4

But the new Gen 5 is definitely better than previous versions & about the same as the S&W 2.0 trigger.

Dry fire.....................LOTS & then some more.

MM
If I wanted to upgrade a Glock trigger for whatever reason, I think I’d jump straight to the Timney unit and skip all other stuff.
I've not shot the Timney, but I have shot the Zev version & it's not worth the extra money versus a good connector, spring change & some polish.............not at all.

MM
Yes. It is attached to a Walther, H&K, or a Sig
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