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I have been working with N110 and speer 240 gr JSP's with poor results. I have tried rock bottom loads to max loads and haven't had any luck. I'm shooting a Taurus tracker SS with a 2x6 scope. I know it shoots because some generic Remington 240 hp's shot well out it. I've heard W296 does well, suggestions please.
I've pretty much settled on 24 gr. H110 under a 240 gr Hornady XTP in my 77-44. Accurate enough for the ranges I'm shooting it and impressive on deer.
Almost identical, 23.5 grs H110 under 240 gr Hornady XTP's, CCI primer
24 gr Lil'Gun under 240 Sierras. Planning on trying some mid-range loads with Unique & Power Pistol at some point
270 grain Speer, 21 grains H110, Win LP primer. Shoots very well out of my 629 and Marlin.
23-24 grains of H110 and the 240 gr. Hornady XTP has always been a good combo for me. I have also had good luck with the same powder under a 255 gr. cast SWC.
Brinky, my experience with N110 is the complete opposite of yours. I started out with 296, and could do no better than 3" groups at 50 yards.

With the N110, that shrunk to 1" groups. That was with a Beartooth bullet 300 grain, seated long, and with the Hornady 300 grain XTP, also seated long.

Perhaps H110/296 will be your friend. And, keep 4227 of both persuasions in mind, as well as AA#9. Those powders can run respectable speeds, and can be reduced. H110/296 is a high performance powder and doesn't like reduced loads much, as you are probably aware of.

Mostly I use 8 or 8.5 grains of Unique under a 240/250 bullet I cast myself. Plenty for the shooting I do.
My N110 loads started at 18 gr and went up to 20 grains incrementally by .2gr and did seem to get better at the max. Perhaps my gun doesn't like the bullet weight. Or maybe the optics are for chit. The mount is solid for sure but it is a Bushnell albeit a top of the line for them. I'm really scratching my head wondering WTF. Might be time for irons again at 15 yds to figure this out. My Sig 229 40 cal with irons does better than my scoped 44. Something ain't right.
240 gr. Remington JSP's, (buy'em in bulk from Graf's) with 24.5 gr. of H-110 lit by a CCI L.P. magnum primer, and usually in Starline brass. Averages right around 1500 fps from a SS 7.5" Redhawk with real nice accuracy.
Count me as another fan of H110. 23 - 24gr with the 240gr XTP. It worked great in my heavy 45 Colt loads too.

For milder loads, I like Universal.
It could very well be your pistol doesn't like N110.

I've not tried it with standard 1.6" OAL, and have kept pressures in the 35 KPSI range.
24gr H110, 240gr XTP.
For plinking, practice, and generally light stuff, I use 6.0gr of Red Dot under a 200gr cast RNFP.

For deer hunting and higher throttle stuff, I run 24.0gr of 2400 under a 210gr Gold Dot.

For big stuff and playing with my buddies, I use 18.5gr of 2400 under a 310gr cast FPGC.

That pretty much covers the full spectrum for me.
I'm crimping mid cannelure and the hotter I run it the better the groups but nothing real good even at 19.5 gr which is .5 from max. I never really did like the scope thing on a pistol and I think I will go back to the drawing board using the factory irons. I think I was better off that way. I'm going to try close to max loads with irons at 15 yards and move out from there.
Originally Posted by Vic_in_Va
Brinky, my experience with N110 is the complete opposite of yours. I started out with 296, and could do no better than 3" groups at 50 yards.

With the N110, that shrunk to 1" groups. That was with a Beartooth bullet 300 grain, seated long, and with the Hornady 300 grain XTP, also seated long.

Perhaps H110/296 will be your friend. And, keep 4227 of both persuasions in mind, as well as AA#9. Those powders can run respectable speeds, and can be reduced. H110/296 is a high performance powder and doesn't like reduced loads much, as you are probably aware of.



I also use H110 and 300 gr. Beartooth WFNHCGC's bullets. I also get the same results and yes, they do like to pushed a bit. I used 2400 for several years with 240gr. bullets and liked them as well, but found H110 and the 300gr. bullets more geared towards my needs and/or intentions.
I shot a lot of 15 grains of BLUE DOT under 250 grain hard cast gas checked bullets for decades with good results and I doubt youll find a more accurate or consistent load

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What primers are you using ? Speer has found that that powder works best with their CCI 300, rather than their magnumn 350's.
Are you seating with one pass and crimping heavily with another ? A heavy, or very heavy, crimp is often necessary.
My favorite loads are 20 grs. of 2400 over a 240 gr. Hdy XTP or 19 grs. of the same powder with a 250 cast, SWC. Either load shoots 1.5-2 inches at 25 yds with iron sights from my 4 inch Smith.
Originally Posted by brinky72
I'm crimping mid cannelure and the hotter I run it the better the groups but nothing real good even at 19.5 gr which is .5 from max. I never really did like the scope thing on a pistol and I think I will go back to the drawing board using the factory irons. I think I was better off that way. I'm going to try close to max loads with irons at 15 yards and move out from there.


By seating long, I mean OALs of 1.745" and 1.775" for the XTP and the BB, respectively. This allows for bullet speeds in the 1300s with safe pressure.

I don't know if you can do this with the Taurus.

The OAL will change the dynamics of the load altogether, so I may get the same results with the load you are using. I have not tried N110 in a 1.6" 240 grain load.

Good luck on your search for an accurate powder.
Originally Posted by Eremicus
What primers are you using ? Speer has found that that powder works best with their CCI 300, rather than their magnumn 350's.
Are you seating with one pass and crimping heavily with another ? A heavy, or very heavy, crimp is often necessary.
My favorite loads are 20 grs. of 2400 over a 240 gr. Hdy XTP or 19 grs. of the same powder with a 250 cast, SWC. Either load shoots 1.5-2 inches at 25 yds with iron sights from my 4 inch Smith.

Funny you mention primers. I have beat the bushes forever.
Federal also uses a 150 primer. I use nothing else.
How funny is it that back in the 70's, I found the mag primer was wrong in the .44?
But crimp has little to do with powder burn. Case tension is needed. Soft lead that gets sized when seating is an atrocity.
Three main loads:

Light load: 8.5 grains Unique/ 240 or 250 LSWC

Medium load: 10 grains Unique/ 240 or 250 LSWC

Heavy load: 22 grains H110/ 240 or 300-340 LSWC or LBT wide meplat style.

These have served me well for years, all are Smith friendly.In Rugers you can safely bump up the heavy load 2 grains with no concern.


The medium load is my general purpose/all around load. Kills mule deer/pigs, whatever.

MS
I'm liking Alliant's Power Pistol for mid-range 44 Magnum rounds right now. Brian Pearce's articles have quite a bit of data for that powder. Burns cleaner than Unique, at similar velocities, in my experience.
26.0g of H110, Win brass, 180g Sierra

22.6g of H110, Win brass, Sierra 240g HP

Win mag primer in both loads

Ruger super black hawks love the above loads
New Unique burns much cleaner, but I prefer the old Unique.
24 gr W296 under about any 240 but Remington as of late.
21 gns 296 under a 300 gn gas check LBT bullet lit with a CCI-350 mag. primer.

Gunner
24 grains of Win 296 under a 250 grain SWC from an RCBS mold. Old nickeled brass with a Midway headstamp and WW large pistol primers.

Others ...

29 grains of H110 under a Remington 180 grain JHP, otherwise as above.

24.7 grains of Win 296 under a Sierra 240 grain JHC in Remington brass using Fed 155 primers.

300 grain LBT WFN GC, nickeled Midway brass, CCI 350 primer, 22.5 grains of Win 296. (Super blackhawk hunter load.)

300 grain Hornady XTP HP, WW brass, CCI 350, 20 grains of 296, seated to the front cannelure. (Win 94 trapper load.)
Unique is hard to beat!
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I have been shooting 240 gr JHP 24 gr H110/W296 with heavy roll crimp 1.6" OAL for 12 years in the 44mag revolver and rifle.

range report 2007-1-31
Ruger 44 mag Deerstalker 20" Marlin 444 barrel, cut down to 44 mag, Vari-ii 4X scope,
Measured 1720, 1756 fps
Quickload predicts 1752 fps, 31401 psi
My favorite is the Keith 250 gr SWC and 20 gr 2400 with CCI 300 Primers, for hunting, and for all around use the same bullet with 9.0 or 9.5 gr of Unique and the same primer.
Now we all know H110 and 296 are the exact same powders but different lots are sent for WW 296 and Hodgdon H110. Small difference maybe but H110 was superb in the RH but 296 works better in the SBH, SRH and S&W 29. I could never explain it.
I found in all conditions the mag primer always tripled groups for me. You might want to use them with H110 but no other powder needs them. H110 does not need a mag primer in the .44.
The problem is that mag primer pressure can move a bullet out of the brass before good ignition and that changes case capacity for every shot.
Many companies have found the same thing and have reverted to standard primers and Fed told me they do not have any records of using magnum primers in the .44.
To the nitty gritty, some guns like one powder over another.
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