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Unbelievably from the fertile mind of Tony Galazan---well, at least from his outstanding company:

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2019/01/04/standard-manufacturing-volleyfire/
Making single action revolvers must be mind altering or the like.

Colt is as predictable as a drugstore mouse.

USFA dumped a beautiful, well made SA to make zip guns

And now this from Standard.

Come to think of it, Ruger hasn't brought out anything lately that doesn't look like it was made with Legos or an Erector set.

I suppose the times, they are a changin.
Fires more than one round with a single pull of the trigger.

Has ATF approved this creation from beyond thunderdome?
They make some high quality and innovative guns.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
They make some high quality and innovative guns.


Tony cut his teeth on VERY high end double shotguns but has gone off the skids lately it seems---their double barreled pump gun being exhibit A.
Can't wait for the 500 S&W version.
Originally Posted by dave284
Can't wait for the 500 S&W version.

LOL. Believe it or not, either this company, or someone else, makes something like that in 7.62x39.
Why would anyone design a gun without a complete trigger guard? Doesn't seem like a good idea.
It's a reverse Fitz. LOL
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lots of people still carry these 22 mag back-up pistols
An answer in search of a question.
Just a revolving derringer.

Not THAT crazy of an idea.
It could be a good investment but don't believe I'd shoot it.
It has some interesting design elements that could be applied in other revolvers. Basically a 22 Mag revolver that you can empty twice as fast, which, depending on the application, could be a plus.
I would buy one. I actually think it's pretty neat and I always wanted something like a Fitz special and this is close enough.
Originally Posted by deflave
Just a revolving derringer.

Not THAT crazy of an idea.


....flave, do you really think that firing two rounds simultaneously is a good idea?
Seems the company is asking 8-10 year old boys “what do you think would be a good gun?” I really like the idea of simultaneous bullet and birdshot loads. True boy thinking at work.
Ok,,,,, FWIW, I've been packing this since the mid-90's, sometimes I forget its there. grin
LJ cool

Attached picture LJ's TAURUS Model_85CHSS1.jpg
That's certainly fugly! I think if I wanted light little revolver to stuff in my pocket I'd just get an older Charter Arms.
Originally Posted by gmoats
Originally Posted by deflave
Just a revolving derringer.

Not THAT crazy of an idea.


....flave, do you really think that firing two rounds simultaneously is a good idea?


I know it's a bad idea in a shotgun with two triggers.

Can't say I've ever tried it in a revolver.
Trigger pull must be off the charts to incorporate a two-finger trigger.

Seems 22WMR revolvers already have notoriously heavy DA triggers for positive ignition. I guess to set off two rounds, it needs even more .


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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by gmoats
Originally Posted by deflave
Just a revolving derringer.

Not THAT crazy of an idea.


....flave, do you really think that firing two rounds simultaneously is a good idea?


I know it's a bad idea in a shotgun with two triggers.

Can't say I've ever tried it in a revolver.


If one is going to carry a 22WMR for close range self defense 2 hits at once beats the pants of of 1 at a time.
Ejector rod looks like 1/4" or so.
Shoot somebody in the face with 8 rounds of .22 mag and they'll probably leave you alone.
That thing is one fugly mofo.
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
That thing is one fugly mofo.


This.

WTF were they thinking/smoking?
Originally Posted by Magnumdood
Shoot somebody in the face with 8 rounds of .22 mag and they'll probably leave you alone.


I'd carry a S&W 351PD, or LCR, not that hot mess.
I've always racked up some of these ideas as business decisions. They know their not gonna sell. But they can write a lot of the costs off.
Can it shoot one at a time also?
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Can it shoot one at a time also?


For sure if you load only half the cylinders.
How about that 'rhino horn' underside, forward of the trigger.

WTF is that all about? Looks like it would hook on a pocket during presentation.
Well it sure is different, and interesting; I'll give it that.

To me, though it doesn't make much sense (except maybe given the limited power of .22 WMR) to put 2 bullets in the same spot. Essentially gives you 4 mediocre wound tracks.

.22 Mag, is really a rifle round. Hardly any difference over a LR coming out of that short a barrel.

A compact 5 shot DA revolver in .327, 38 Spl, or .357 makes a lot more sense to me.

If just being different was the goal, and I suspect it was; a 4 barrel break open in one of the above would be kind of cool and make more sense.
another butt azzed stupid product, but I'm sure someone will manage to shoot themselves with it.
The 1 7/8" 22WMR revolvers seem to be able to muster about 1100 fps with the 40 gr bullet. It's a small bullet, but velocity isn't bad, compared to some of the mouse guns.

This revolver has 1.25" barrels.

I always believed the biggest draw to the 22WMR defensive handgun was the low recoil, for those who cannot deal with it for various reasons. So firing two rounds at once, just doubled the recoil.
Originally Posted by Tactical_Lever

.22 Mag, is really a rifle round. Hardly any difference over a LR coming out of that short a barrel.


Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
The 1 7/8" 22WMR revolvers seem to be able to muster about 1100 fps with the 40 gr bullet. It's a small bullet, but velocity isn't bad, compared to some of the mouse guns.

This revolver has 1.25" barrels.

I always believed the biggest draw to the 22WMR defensive handgun was the low recoil, for those who cannot deal with it for various reasons. So firing two rounds at once, just doubled the recoil.



I checked my chrono data on the .22 WMR Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel and got 10 shot averages of 983 fps out of a 1 inch NAA Pug and 1066 fps out of a 1-1/8" NAA mini convertible, with a 100 and 105 fps extreme spread, respectively. By contrast, .22 LR CCI Mini-Mag HP got an average of 857 fps out of the mini convertible, with a 99 fps extreme spread.
That's a good data point on the 1 1/8" min convertible.

The WMR picks up 200+ fps. I'd call that a significant gain in velocity over the 22LR.
Originally Posted by Cheyenne
Originally Posted by Tactical_Lever

.22 Mag, is really a rifle round. Hardly any difference over a LR coming out of that short a barrel.


Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
The 1 7/8" 22WMR revolvers seem to be able to muster about 1100 fps with the 40 gr bullet. It's a small bullet, but velocity isn't bad, compared to some of the mouse guns.

This revolver has 1.25" barrels.

I always believed the biggest draw to the 22WMR defensive handgun was the low recoil, for those who cannot deal with it for various reasons. So firing two rounds at once, just doubled the recoil.



I checked my chrono data on the .22 WMR Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel and got 10 shot averages of 983 fps out of a 1 inch NAA Pug and 1066 fps out of a 1-1/8" NAA mini convertible, with a 100 and 105 fps extreme spread, respectively. By contrast, .22 LR CCI Mini-Mag HP got an average of 857 fps out of the mini convertible, with a 99 fps extreme spread.


Those are huge extreme spreads....

I believe there are a couple .22 LR rounds that do a little better than that out of a short barrel, to more evenly compare. But the 22 mag is still a rifle round, considering the velocity.

For a significant real world gain, a 38 Spl is carrying about 3.5 times the momentum.
Well I got to handle one of these at the Beinfeld Antique Arms show in Las Vegas yesterday-----it's as underwhelming in person as it is in digital print. The irony is that it was at a side table next to their $20,000 sidekick shotguns and even more expensive Model 21's and Foxes. It's perplexing.
I thought a full auto firearm is one that discharges more than one round with a single trigger pull. So Would this be one of those semi-full auto guns that gun grabbers talk about?
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