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Posted By: CP Smith 17 or 617 - 01/01/20
I have a Mark ll, a Buckmark and a SP 101 in my current .22 LR handgun inventory and use them regularly for range-plinking. I have no interest in competition or serious target shooting, but delight in trying to put holes in pop cans at a 30-50yd range and scaring the hell out of the occasional gopher.

At damn near 73 years of age, I am thinking about getting something (NIB-only) that I’ll get a little time enjoying and then ultimately have a special piece to pass onto one of the grandkids. Normally, the stainless 6” 617 would be my default choice, but there something about being my age and passing on a Masterpiece to a grandkid that is resonating with me. Thoughts? CP.
Posted By: Sbrown Re: Smith 17 or 617 - 01/01/20
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My model 17. It's a joy to shoot and ammo is reasonable if you bought back in the day.
A 6 inch model 617 wouldn't be a bad choice either.
Good luck with your search and decision.
Posted By: TimZ Re: Smith 17 or 617 - 01/01/20
Have both and love both, the Model 17 is probably more of a classic, while the 617 in stainless, and especially the 10-shot version, is more practical......You can't go wrong either way, how about both?
Posted By: RJM Re: Smith 17 or 617 - 01/01/20
I would not waste my money on a "new" S&W....look for a MINT older one made between 1950 and 1970 if you want a really want something to pass down to the next generation...

GunBroker or AuctionArms are the places to look...

Bob
Posted By: GunGeek Re: Smith 17 or 617 - 01/01/20
For an Heirloom, go with the model 17 or 18. Both are classic K-22's, and are wicked accurate.

I have a 10 shot 617 and its my favorite handgun to shoot, it's so much fun. But if someone walked up to me with a S&W Model 18 I would swap in a New York minute!!
Posted By: smithrjd Re: Smith 17 or 617 - 01/01/20
The 617 has a full underlug, so quite a bit heavier than the 17 without the underlug. That being said, I prefer the older versions, pre-Model 17 the K-22 Masterpiece. Mine is from 1948, and was much less than the new models. They made millions of them so they are out there without looking very hard.
Posted By: dale06 Re: Smith 17 or 617 - 01/02/20
I have a 4” 617, 10 shot. It’s a fantastic revolver.
Posted By: watch4bear Re: Smith 17 or 617 - 01/02/20
Have had 2 617 10 shots, both were out of time after a couple thousand rounds.
Posted By: RGK Re: Smith 17 or 617 - 01/02/20
Originally Posted by GunGeek
I have a 10 shot 617 and its my favorite handgun to shoot, it's so much fun. But if someone walked up to me with a S&W Model 18 I would swap in a New York minute!!


Just for you, Kevin.
Bob

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Posted By: CP Re: Smith 17 or 617 - 01/03/20
Thanks for the comments, and at the moment I am learning towards 617. CP.
Posted By: cv540 Re: Smith 17 or 617 - 01/03/20
The key part of your OP mentions passing down to grandkids. I think a blued steel revolver passed down from grandpa has a ton more nostalgic panache to it then the same revolver in stainless.
If that means they have to take Gramps gun out from time to time and wipe it down with an oil cloth, GOOD! "When Gramps gave it to me he told me it I let it rust he would come back and haunt my azz."
Posted By: winchester70 Re: Smith 17 or 617 - 01/03/20
Vintage Masterpiece, without question.
Posted By: lastround Re: Smith 17 or 617 - 01/03/20
This is my next “want” and “got to have” in the gun world. I’ve got all the rifles I’ll ever need or want for that matter. And I probably have all the handguns I will ever need, but an older K-22 is just an itch I’m gonna have to scratch!
Posted By: local_dirt Re: Smith 17 or 617 - 01/03/20
Originally Posted by Sbrown
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My model 17. It's a joy to shoot and ammo is reasonable if you bought back in the day.




Looks just like mine. smile

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Originally Posted by lastround
This is my next “want” and “got to have” in the gun world. I’ve got all the rifles I’ll ever need or want for that matter. And I probably have all the handguns I will ever need, but an older K-22 is just an itch I’m gonna have to scratch!




I hear ya.. I looked for a long time and finally scratched that itch with the one above.
Posted By: rem141r Re: Smith 17 or 617 - 01/03/20
in my opinion a blued 17 or 18 from the 50's to the 80's would be a much better heirloom to pass down than a stainless modern revolver. i have passed 2 18's on to my boys, one a pre-18 and the other an 18-1. a properly cared for 18 is the sweetest 22 revolver ever made, in my opinion.
Posted By: GunGeek Re: Smith 17 or 617 - 01/04/20
Originally Posted by watch4bear
Have had 2 617 10 shots, both were out of time after a couple thousand rounds.

WTF??? That's bizarre. I have a good 50k through mine and it's pretty much as good as the day it left the factory...if not better.
Posted By: GunGeek Re: Smith 17 or 617 - 01/04/20
Originally Posted by RGK
Originally Posted by GunGeek
I have a 10 shot 617 and its my favorite handgun to shoot, it's so much fun. But if someone walked up to me with a S&W Model 18 I would swap in a New York minute!!


Just for you, Kevin.
Bob

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That's Gun Porn Bob !!

The first .22 revolver I ever shot was a Model 18 and it's been love ever since. One of these days my friend.
Posted By: watch4bear Re: Smith 17 or 617 - 01/04/20
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I have a good 50k through mine



Did you save your empties?
Posted By: 41rem Re: Smith 17 or 617 - 01/05/20
Originally Posted by rem141r
I have passed two M-18's on to my boys, one a pre-18 and the other an 18-1. a properly cared for 18 is the sweetest 22 revolver ever made, in my opinion.


Have to agree, I've always had a M-18, my son will carry it after me. The kids would probably prefer the higher capacity 617, but for remembering you a vintage S&W revolver is the perfect choice.

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Posted By: BillyGoatGruff Re: Smith 17 or 617 - 01/05/20
I have one of the new 17s. Couldn't be happier with it. I've shot it side by side with old production 17s and other than the ugly hillary hole it leaves nothing on the table.
Posted By: Windfall Re: Smith 17 or 617 - 01/06/20
My first double action S&W .22 was a 6" M17 and I thought that a K frame was too heavy for just a .22 plinker. I bought a 4" M34 that is made on the J frame and I've never missed or regretted selling off that M17.
Posted By: n8dawg6 Re: Smith 17 or 617 - 01/09/20
the new ones arent as pretty as the old ones and the actions dont have as much character (for lack of a better description). the modern manufacturing techniques (MIM parts, etc.) leave a lot to be desired compared to the romance of old school smiths.

however ... the new ones have excellent triggers and excellent accuracy. they may not have the panache, but they are highly functional.
Posted By: CP Re: Smith 17 or 617 - 02/19/20
Oh-the twisted trails gun guys roam. I believe I found something a little different than I outlined above that will better meet my objectives. I purchased a Smith and Wesson Model 14-4 Target Masterpiece, and I am really impressed how sweet this piece shoots and functions. It is truly a dandy... CP.

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Posted By: local_dirt Re: Smith 17 or 617 - 02/22/20
Originally Posted by CP
Oh-the twisted trails gun guys roam. I believe I found something a little different than I outlined above that will better meet my objectives. I purchased a Smith and Wesson Model 14-4 Target Masterpiece, and I am really impressed how sweet this piece shoots and functions. It is truly a dandy... CP.

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Saw a very nice old 6" 14-3 come through LGS yesterday. The guy is National Guard and was in AZ for a pistol competition. Saw it at a pawn shop and had it shipped back here. $720 shipped no box.


Pinned bbl, patridge front sight, wide serrated trigger, target trigger. Beautiful. No wear on the barrel crown at all. Blueing exccellent.
Posted By: Bristoe Re: Smith 17 or 617 - 02/22/20
I've got a very nice pinned barrel model 17 from the early 70's. It's large for a .22 revolver, but it's small for a .22 carbine,...and it shoots like a .22 carbine.
Posted By: RGK Re: Smith 17 or 617 - 02/23/20
Been in here before, but it's a favorite that I've been shooting for fun during the bullseye off-season. 17-3 with Pachmayrs. Bought this one new a long time ago. And yeah, I love Pachmayrs.
Bob

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