Since getting back into rifles this year, I've had the hankering to have some .22s to play with while my center fire's barrels are cooling. I have a nice CZ bolt, but would like a semi for no other reason than...I want one. I'm not looking for a target gun that shoots itty bitty groups, just something that goes bang when I pull the trigger. What do you guys think the most reliable .22 semi is that's being produced today?

Ruger 10-22

What bea said..

+2

10-22

yep, taint none better

Ditto #5 and I'll add a reason.

They go bang and are accurate out of the box, at least the few I've had were. And if the mood ever strikes that you want to upgrade it with a better trigger or barrel or whatnot, you won't find another .22 rifle with as many drop in accessories as a 10/22.

Nice to see real young kids asking questions like this. Who says the fire isn't a family site...

10-22 it is- thanks for the recommendation, guys!

I'm kind of surprised that no one said the Marlin 60 yet. It usually gets mentioned in these threads. It was my first .22, not because that's what I really wanted, but because I could afford it. (I really wanted a Remington 541-S, but could have settled for a Ruger 10/22 Deluxe.)

I ended up selling the Marlin and getting a 10/22 later. Main reasons were that when you have a jam- and you will sooner or later with rimfire ammo- sometimes you end up reaching up by the muzzle (with a loaded gun), to loosen the magazine tube to dump the ammo to clear the jam.

The 10/22, simple push of the button, drop the magazine, and you're good to work on it. And if throwing a lot of rounds down range is your thing, you can preload extra magazines.

Finally, like everyone says, you have so many modifications available to you with a 10/22, so it's easy to build one to your liking.

Okay, I'll be a bit different. Consider the S&W M&P 15-22 .

We've got three of them in our clan as the grandkids think they are way fun. When I have a line-up of .22's to shoot they select the M&P 15-22's every time. My oldest son is in career military and to him the AR platform is quite normal. The collapsible stock adjusts for 8-year-olds and then out for adults. Comes threaded so (with an adapter) can easily put a can on them. Accuracy and reliability are well within acceptable modern planker standards. I very much enjoy shooting it.

The 10-22 comes in a similar version if the 'AR' look does anything for you. And like everybody has said the 10-22 has more accessories/upgrades available to it than any other model. I have the Take-Down version with a lot of upgrades and am very pleased with it.

10-22 for sure

S&W AR. Accurate, always works, lots of magazine choices, suppressor ready, AR trainer as well.

Next, the no longer made TC. A real wood and blue man sized rifle. Unlike the 10-22, does not need add ons to work well.

If you don't mind spending a bit more, Browning SA22s can be had online for under $600 all day, and are very classy, high quality rifles.

Hard to argue against the 10/22 for a plinker. That being said I have a couple of the Remington 597s that I'm satisfied with. The older of the two took a VQ extractor to cure some feed issues, but for what they are and cost, I'm satisfied. The new heavy barrel version has been good to go out of the box. I prefer the factory ergos of the 597 to the 10/22 but customization of the 10/22 is unlimited.

There are several top performers that have been around for a while (Marlin 60, Ruger 10-22, etc..) but my favorite is the Browning Buckmark rifle.

my .02,
dave

Dollar for dollar you can not beat the value of a Ruger 10-22

No personal experience, but every time I see one of those Weatherby Mark XXII's with great wood at the gun show - I want one.

Best value today? 10.22.

Classiest, most fun to carry, and best looking? Winchester 63.

JustinL1: The answer to your question is the Ruger 10/22 in what ever "configuration" (model?) fits you and your needs best.
Don't expect "perfection" from any semi-auto in 22 L.R. caliber as the ammunition is often not up to the that standard to begin with.
I have been shooting 22 semi-autos for going on 60 years now and I think I have shot just about every American factory model over that time - I contend, go with the Ruger 10/22!
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

I find the old fingergroove 10/22's to be quite classy.
Put a Volq hammer and Kidd buffer in my '67.
All else original. 50 yards and in, don't need anything else.

My uncle had a Win M63. Had not seen it in many years so called him but the old 22 got sold.

Winchester Model 63……followed by the classy Weatherby semi auto, which has excellent irons…..graduated for50-75& 100 yds , I believe.

Everyone has a classless 10-22. They degrade a fine collection.
Maybe, a tolerable boat gun.

This!

You're not livin' till ya shoot a gill gun.

I haven't seen one 10-22 used by the gator hunters on the "Swamp People" TV show.

neither have i seen one on that show either, and they do have a diverse amount of firepower or so it seems.

i have three 10-22's in various condition and configuration.

for a change, i often carry a mdl 597 rem. w/sporter barrel into the woods with a 6x burrus huntsman scope. works really well, but not as many accessories as available for the 10-22.

If one of those gator hunters is running a factory checkered 10/22 sporter.........he should be cut up and used as bait.

1966-71 the sporters........factory checkered they made around 535 or so.

Prices up on them recently.

Of the off the shelf cheap plinkers, I prefer the Marlin model 60 with the tube fed magazine.
Nothing wrong with a 10-22, I just hate the magazines on the 10-22 Ruger.

For out of production .22 lr semi rifles, my old Nylon 66 is still my favorite! And by far the most reliable semi auto .22 rifle that I own.

Marlin 60, hands down. Not only will it go BANG without jamming, but it will shoot way more accurately than it should for its low price.
10/22 is for kids who don't know better.

For "something that goes bang when I pull the trigger" it's hard to argue against the Ruger 10-22 or the Marlin 60. They've been around over 50 years and are still going strong.

There are plenty of old school classic, semiauto 22s out there but most of them are probably going to cost a lot more and might not be as reliable as a new 60 or 10-22. I've owned both and mine worked like they're supposed to. I've still got the 10-22 and it was made in the seventies.

I have seen quite a few Model 60's go down for a cracked/disintegrated buffer.

Never owned one, shot a few.

10/22 whips its arse, easily. Only issue with 10/22 is width of stock for mag, and maybe other stock ergonomic issues.

The standard stock feels OK at best. Put that up against a sporter stock...........and it feels like total crap.

The fingergroove sporter is THE 10/22.

Don't care for the Internationals.

Pair a an old sporter 10/22 with a .44 sporter and you can be in the cool kids club.

You know, the honor students

I am no fan of tube mags, or detachables that stick out from the stock. They just irk the sheite out of me, as that's where I carry em.

Have had 3 or 4 standard 10/22s and 2 sporters, plus a deluxe sporter. The FG is the only one to have IMHO.

Ruger should have done a stainless version, w blakc synth stock for the 50 yr anniv. That said, the older standards and sporters shot better than the mid 80's and 90's other models I had. Never did experiment with bbl swaps to see why.

Only .22 rifle I regret selling is my Anschtuz 141. Thought about a H&K 270. But rather get a 300.

It's blasphemy, but the Norinco clone of the Browning is a damned good one.

Yes, it does look cooler sitting there. But that's it. The Marlin 60 is:

• Twice as accurate - maybe even 3x more accurate. Nobody who's ever shot the two would think a stock 10/22 comes close to a Marlin 60.
• Much more reliable - 10/22's suffer mostly from poor quality after market magazines. And 10/22's become jammatics with low-power ammo.
• The Marlin comes with usable stock sights.
• The Marlin 60 is cheaper. You can use the $75 difference to buy your first brick of 22lr ammo

Really, there are two things where the 10/22 shines: a slightly better trigger and after-market support.

By the way, after 100 bricks of ammo and a couple decades, the recoil buffer might crumble in a Marlin 60. $5 part, a few minutes of work, and its good for another 30 years. Not even sure you can buy enough 22lr ammo to wear one out anymore.

How does the Marlin 795 compare to the Model 60? Same action except mag fed? As accurate? I like the shorter OAL on the 795 but not a fan of the plastic stock. Never been a big fan of the 10/22 looks or function and it seems like a waste to throw most of it away to improve it. Like buying a base model car and spending 3x as much to "improve" it.

The mag fed version isn't as reliable IME.

60's are good, but 10/22's are better.





Dave

Im a big fan of my rem. Nylon 66 iv had since 1972, still going strong! but picked up a Colt/walter m4 22, just shot it the other day , put a Mini Burris 4x scope on it , sucker is a tack driver. was very suprized with it! bought it when they were talking about the ban! got it for $369.00 gun broker bid at a shop near me, didnt think Id get it, for that low bid, came new in the box!

I once had a T/C Classic, which was a nice .22 autoloader.

The way it was designed, the action accumulated too much powder residue to suit me. It went down the road.

The 10-22 is tops for a number of reasons. The fire control mechanism is isolated from the mag well and powder residue doesn't accumulate. There a number of ways the trigger can be perfected.

There are so many aftermarket options, one can create about any imaginable configuration.

The action is just about bullet proof and with a good barrel, they can be tack drivers.

The rotary mag is a Bill Ruger masterpiece as is the whole gun.

What's not to like.

Whatever .22 is second is a distant second, IMO.

DF

Might just need to go buy the abused Nylon 66 out of the local pawn....

I like those, too.

Except, they're selling for a lot more than in past years.

DF

Owning any 10/22 is like being married to the ugliest gal in 4 counties.................


that cooks good.

A nylon 66 is about the only thing worse.

That would be her sisty ugler.

If you can take a Nylon 66 apart and put it back together, you've just graduated from bush league to big league...

It ain't a job for the beginner...

DF

Well, I can and have taken a nylon 66 apart and put it back together. Anybody who can do that and still consider it a good rifle ain't too bright. Sure they're tough and go bang on a very regular basis but NOTHING about the design is conducive to good accuracy. NOTHING. Let's see, affix the barrel to a very flexible plastic stock, then affix the rear sight/scope to a stamped sheet steel receiver cover that's not connected to the barrel at all but instead held to the flexible plastic stock with a couple of through screws that allow a bit of slop/shifting between the flexible stock and the reciver cover. Pure design genius !

You guys can have the ugly sisters. Me? I'm taking the beautiful, high-maintenance Prom Queen out for dinner. And then hooking up later, with the head cheerleader.....

10-22 Is the most sensible choice. That said, after decades of serving me coon hunting, trapping, plinking, utility, my 10-22 moved out to Missoura where my grandsons use it a lot. I've still got my Belgian Browning which, IMHO is a work of art. Also my Nylon 66 sees some use (really attached to that because it was one of those things I wanted as a kid but couldn't afford.)

post 1958 Remington 552, ain't too shabby...............bun tingmeister

I own one and I like it. I use the stock iron sights. I used electrical tape to secure the barrel in the stock - otherwise it was minute of old Chevy accuracy - wise.
I learned to lubricate it with a soft pencil - never use oil.

Kiddies who recommend the 10/22 just dont know any better. They probably think the Ruger American is really accurate too. Ignorance is what sells the 10/22.

I can't believe that anyone still buys Marlin 60s, or any current production Marlin 22 for that matter. To compare a Marlin 60 to a 10/22 and say it's better in any way aside from accuracy, which I admit it usually is out of the box, would be lying to yourself. The longevity and reliability of the Ruger is pretty unbeatable. And they use THE best magazine ever put in a rimfire anything. The days of unreliable hicap 10/22 mags are behind us too thanks to Ruger and the BX series of magazines, screw Butler creek and their Hotlips crap.

I've seen more constant jammer 10-22/s than you can shake a stick at. The 10-22 is another one that you look at the design of and shake your head thinking WTF was Bill Ruger thinking ? One action screw and a barrel band and you expect good accuracy ? One extractor that is too far from the breechface to hold the shell case firmly to it and you expect top notch extraction/ejection ? Oh, and I've seen my share of those rotary magazines that didn't feed worth a shyt too. I agree with the above poster that the 10-22 is bought by folks out of ignorance. Then when they find out it doesn't shoot worth a shyt {DUH !} they set about rebuilding the thing in an effort to compensate for it's basic design flaws and shytty loose tolerances. The 10-22 is the mini-14 of the rimfire world.

597, 10/22, model 60. All are good. Marlin most accurate, 10/22 most aftermarket stuff, 597 I like it better out of the box overall.

Investment cast firearms are so classy.

The proverbial meeting of the minds right here.

You two dumb fugks wouldn't know a muzzle from a dilldo.



Dave

A sex change will cheer you up.





Dave

o come on guys.......................

you only gotta sink a buttload of money into a 10/22 buying after market this after market that to get it to shoot accurately and reliably

whats the big deal that an old school Winchester 190 or 290 with a semi decent scope on it and good ammo will run with a souped up 10/22 any day of of the week and fall short only in the fact that it is tube fed and slower to reload than a mag fed 10/22

Travis,
You still pissing with the gals?

Totally at odds with my experience (one apiece) with both models.

The Winchester strung shots higher and higher as the barrel heated up, to the point it would have missed anything smaller than a pony. Pretty much a crap-o-matic.

The Walmart special SS Ruger (checkered beech stock) was dependable and accurate enough for most purposes, right out of the box. Trigger was a bit heavy, but pretty crisp. Regrettably, I sold it when I bought a CZ 455 (also gone).

My next .22 auto ideally will be an SA22, but a 10/22 would be my second choice, especially if I find one of the fancy ones in a LGS.

There's a reason I circumvent North Carolina.





Dave

Dave or Dawn ,
Stay on topic…..who cares if you were circumcised in North Carolina.

I like the SA22 because it ejects out the bottom and keeps brass off the dash.

But the tube feed gets old pretty quick.



Travis

Makes me a hero.




Dave

That's a co-inkydink; feels like I got old pretty quick too.

WTF happenened!

Pulling out that mag tube out inside a Chevy LUV truck's got to be a beetch.

Whichever one is stuck up your stupid gay azz is the dilldo. I've forgot more about guns than you'll ever know and that is stone cold FACT.

Circumcision would require a cock, which he doesn't have.

Remember when you claimed to be a gunsmith?

That was funny as fugk.




Dave

I'll do an upload and shoot you a PM.




Dave

Not nearly as funny as when you claimed to be smart and good looking. Especially so since you already posted pictures of your goofy lookin azz. Now that was hilarious !!!! You liein' sack of shyt you.

Model 60's have never not worked for me or The Nashinator.......






I do way prefer the mags on 10/22's and the availability of aftermarket parts, but I've yet to see a stock 10/22 that's half as accurate as a stock Model 60.

My wife's family loves those model 60's.. I have never owned one or really shot one, but they love 'em.. The only autoloader I own is a 10-22.. It has no sights and a heavier barrel but not a bull.. It is very accurate the little I have shot it.. I need to get it out this spring and see what it will do..

In this area, I don't see many model 60's, but 10-22's are everywhere..

I never claimed to be smart.

To state I'm not ridiculously good looking is laughable.

Now tell me more about your being a "gunsmith."



Clark

Whats the diff. between a dil do and a 10/22?????

Curious

The front sight.

And we figured out you were "curious" a loooong time ago.




Dave

I hear the dil do is worth more.

Who's we.....?

Still curious.

I currently make my living building, troubleshooting and repairing 1911 pistols. Previously I did general gunsmithing after apprenticing for 2 years under the former owner of Dan Wesson firearms. Deal with it azzhole. Now how about you ? Gay escort or just professional dumbazz with gay/tranny encounters as a hobby ? Just what do you do besides flap your ignorant gums ?

Ignorance is alive and well amongst the kids.

Why do you have to be such a butt? I mean seriously, the guy comes on here not looking to start an argument but just asking for advice - "I'm not looking for a target gun that shoots itty bitty groups, just something that goes bang when I pull the trigger." - and all you can do is insult him.

Whether the 10/22 or the Marlin 60 is a better rifle is obviously up for debate, I'm sure either one would serve the OP well, but there is no debating the fact that you're acting like a garden variety jerk.

Me, Dave, and Clark.



Travis

That's fugking hilarious.

The guy that can't use a 10/22 "repairs" pistols.





Dave

^^^This douche bag is actually more stupider than Blackheart.

How's that for raising the bar?




Dave

Nobody said I can't use a 10-22. You read an awful big pile of shyt into everything there Scooter. Too bad you're too fuggin stupid to get any of it right.

Keep your chin up Blackheart. You may go full JeffO one bright shining morning and get through a WHOLE BOX OF BULLETS!

50 count. Obviously.




Clark the Great

I wish dla and Blackheart the imaginary gunsmith could teach me how to get these 10/22's jammed up and incapable of accuracy.

I've been doing everything wrong. Obviously.




Dave

Remington 550 trumps them junky 10-22's......lol
They'll shoot 22 short, regular or 22 lr......without changing a thing

Yeah.

And be sure you find a fugkin' dinosaur to match!

SONOFABITCH!



Dave

I'll send you some pics Travis so you can dream of owning one.....

I need to find me one of them telescoping sights like you have. I hear they're the cats meow......lol

One day you may be smart enough to buy a decent rifle instead of a bunch of ugly junk. But I doubt it.... I have no doubt you've been doing everything wrong but I don't have the time to teach you to shoot. Too bad for you because I am a former 3 time 4 position smallbore state champion and you are....... Obviously nothing. Keep flappin your gums dumbazz, at least you've got yourself convinced you do more than blow hot air.

It's all about you.

And you are ? ...NOTHING.. No competitive credentials, no gunsmithing experience just a hobbiest with pictures. Ahh, but the pictures, the pictures make you experts right ? Far beyond those of us who actually made a living out of working with firearms and put our azzes on the firing line in registered competition. I guess I'd better shut up and start listening to you ! I'm sure you have much to teach me.

BWHAHAHAHAHA!

That's even funnier than thought of you standing over a 1911 with your eyes crossed.



Dave

Now you're getting it!

PM dla. Help him understand.



Dave

Fkn rolling here....

Well played Don.....

not as well played as the 'crossed-eyes' line.

but still, the mental image of blackheart casually strolling to the vaunted 'firing line' while humming 'danger zone' while 'going for' 'state title numba four' with his trusty 10-22, bx-25's and crossed eyes does inspire confidence in his chosen profession of 'gunsmithing'.....

Scrawny,, goofy lookin dork that you are, I suppose it's only natural you'd fantasize about somebody else being even goofier lookin but it simply isn't so and fantasy is all you've got, just like DeFlave. Must be somethimg in the water out there.

show us your UBER trophies. And tell us again, what you do for a living.

Well, it's obvious after all this discussion, the Ruger 10-22 is the BEST 22 semi auto ever built.

Blackheart,

For the grand finale, can you please tell me which imaginary state had enough fake stupidity to award you, your pretend 1st place trophy?

Thanks in advance,
Dave

OOOOh, you shot some critters and took some pictures. Big accomplishment. Now you're a firearms expert and crack shot. You window lickers are funny as hell. Tell me, is there anything you really are good at, other than being a goofy lookin dumbazz ?

I'm here for my entertainment not yours you stupid fugg. Post up another picture of yourself. That always gives me a good laugh. You should have been a circus clown. No makeup required.

So, tell me if there is anything YOU are really good at. Other than being a cross-eyed, drooling braggart? with 3 trophies.....

Yes.

I'm a firearms expert, I'm a crack shot, and I'm good at killing critters.

If you spent some time with me I could probably teach you how to use a 10/22.




Clark

I can build a really good 1911. How about you ? Is there anything that you're really good at ? Other than being a goofy lookin azzhole I mean.

Sure thing.

The guy that can't operate a 10/22 is the same guy that "builds" 1911's.

You must be one of those super gifted retards I've read about.



Dave

Never said I couldn't shoot a 10-22 you fuggin moron. Just pointed out some of it's design shortcomings and the fact that I'd seen jammers. Reading comprehension is not your strongsuit but that isn't surprising given your obviously low IQ. Stupid is a rather large handicap to overcome. It's no wonder you envy those of us with the brains and talent to make a living in the gun business and can't fathom how we manage to do it. If you and huntsman put your heads together you might be able to figure out how to tie your own shoes. Give it a try and let me know how it works out.

I'm going to take make a youtube video of a box of toothpicks hitting the floor.

You tell us how many are in it.




Definitely Dave

Yep, he paid more for a less accurate, and less reliable semi-auto 22lr because of the mis-information from a bunch of ignorant clowns - yet I'm the jerk?

Are you gay again?

You're not a jerk.

You're a dumb-fugk.



Dave

Why?

Were you hoping to choke on my COCK?



Dave

WOW!


Ive been away for a few days and just caught this thread. It has the components to become EPIC.


Not the least of which was getting Gus to post.

Choke on a cheetoe?

Now that right there has the potential to be post of the month.

I don't care who you are, that is flat out funny!

Sig is a nice touch. Funny, definitely funny.

Gotta go, 15 minutes before Judge Wapner is on.

Something about this thread got me to thinking. What ever happened to Lee24?

Did Lee shove Cheetos in his ass as well?




Dave

Too much gay porn going on here buddy. You better go away for another 3 days. Flave is about ready to score on that dla guy, while blackheart is over in the corner beating off to the tune of his own beat....

IMNSHO the 50th anniv model 10/22 is quite ghey.

No, they aren't target guns, although folks can pimp 'em out to be such.

And some factory rigs do shoot better than others.

Jammomatics? I've had about a half dozen and burned a sheiteload of ammo in 'em. No probs unless I ran that gunky old Remington stuff. Clean it and back to buzzing away.

All of my 10/22's were pre 1990 though.

Heard some of the new stuff has had problems.

I know the guy that bought my '67 new shot it quite a bit. It runs great with CCI mini mag or WW SuperX. Dropped a Volq hammer in it and it's halfway decent now.

Lose the wind and will try to see which ammo it likes better. CCI last time I zeroed it, was good enough to kill pineys. And they are fast! Leafy area, a semi auto can be just the ticket to smoke a mover before he goes into a hole.

Yeah my Anschutz 141 was a cool little sporter, so was my 541T HB........but that doesn't make the 10/22 sporter less cool.

Factory checkered makes it way cool IMHO.

I have a 513T barrel made into a Contender bbl.........that too is neat.

Stuff you don't see every day.

I really don't give a flip if my bullet hits the squirrels eye perfectly or around the edges.

Sometimes there is "good enough".

And sometimes one has to just go out and shoot, have fun.

Think a few have forgotten that.

Funny, the fancy shooters/guns..........you hardly ever see those guys out and about. They're all over the web.........but rarely at the range, or deer check in LOL.

And the dudes with the good gear, that actually know how to shoot it........proly the most mellow and humble of folks.

At least from what I have seen.

Maybe I just need to move to azzhole land.

Sorry. Colorado is full.

And MT does not allow them.





Clark

Nor does Wyoming.

I really like the 10/22 I built

I gots me one of them 10/22s just like the one with the wood stock. 'Cept it has a scope on it. I'd post a pic but it has blood all over it and I'm mindful that wimmen and youngsters visit here.

It was bedded too. And the factory trigger is in the spare parts bin. It don't shoot fer chitt.



When I get serious I use a single shot or bolt gun.

BD

PS: I shot a cement truck once with a 1911 at 300 meters. One shot, one clang. Won me a case of beer for that. Guy brought me PBR. Azzhole.

What did the truck owner buy you?




Dave

He didn't buy me anything. Waved his middle finger and yelled "Bạn điên GI!"

I think he wanted me to meet his sister but I was busy. Language barriers are a nuisance.

50yds 20rds.

I dont measure groups I just punch paper to verif zero then kill chit.

Soooo many options with a 10-22. I don't hardly touch my Sako Finfire unless someone shoots off their mouth.

1) I have a couple Ruger 10/22s.
Put a Shilen select match bull barrel with modified Bentz chamber and an aftermarket trigger on it and it can out perform my other 22 semi auto rifles.
2) Marlin 88 does not work right
3) Birmingham 20 is nothing special
4) Remington 552 speedmasters, I have a couple that both work well
5) Mossberg 50 works, but is clunky
6) Sav 6 will go full auto when sear wears down, easy to fix gunparts corp
7) Sav 7 ditto, obsoleted, clunky, but beautiful old tank
8) Rem Apache, don't like the clip, working on a mod
9) Rem Mohawk , ditto
10) Rem Nylon 66, is really good for what it weighs
11) Browning SA-22 safe queen
12) Rem 550-1 I have a couple and both have sliding sleeve and will cycle a few CB shorts

So what is my go to 22? Not even a semi, it is Win 61 pump... sorry