I put my T1x .17 HMR together Thursday after a patient 10-month wait. Talley rimfire 11mm dovetail lows, Leupold VX2 3-9x40 CDS, Hornady 17 grain V-Max. I set up a half-assed range in the back yard, turned out to be 60 yards, so keep that in mind.
Still, I think this dog will hunt.
I shot a few more, all consistently dime sized.
I’m looking forward to a structured range session where I can sight her in at 100, then see what she’ll do at 200.
I mounted a new elite 4200 that was collecting dust, new leupold bases & med rings, Hornady .17gr ammo and zeroed for 75yds. five shot groups you can cover with a dime all day long. I cleaned the barrel well and set trigger @ 2 1/2 #. as usual tikka's shoot little bitty groups.
Mad Mooner and Pharmseller - Thank you for the clarification. Somewhere I had seen the pronunciation I used in my question but some how it never seemed right.
Mad Mooner and Pharmseller - Thank you for the clarification. Somewhere I had seen the pronunciation I used in my question but some how it never seemed right.
Jim
Come on out here and say Willa-met-eee a few times, we’ll set you right.
With the Talley low rings how much clearance do you have between the objective end and the barrel? I am waiting on 22lr version and am interested in fitting the talleys also and want to keep the scope low. Have a Leupold 3 to 9 x 40 ready to go. Cheers.
With the Talley low rings how much clearance do you have between the objective end and the barrel? I am waiting on 22lr version and am interested in fitting the talleys also and want to keep the scope low. Have a Leupold 3 to 9 x 40 ready to go. Cheers.
I shot a few rounds over the Magnetospeed. Hornady 17 grain V-Max averaged 2641, es of 20, three shots. The A17 17 grain ammo was much faster, average of 2725, es 24, three shots.
Well damn, I thought they weren't going to make it stateside. Pretty cool. Are the mounting holes the same as a T3?
They look to be. Your dad’s milled Talleys would fit north/south, but the T1x dovetail is only 11mm, so the mounts stick out east/west. That’s why I went squeezy dovetails, which I do not prefer.
Thanks for the accuracy report Pharm. Looks to be on par with some savage 93R17, A17 and RAR rimfires (that I've seen) in the accuracy department.. Cool that Tikka finally brought out a rimfire. How's the trigger on these Tikka rimfire rifles?
I am not familiar with Tikka,. Can some one explain the trigger adjustments. The weight of pull, of course. How low will that go? And if it limits me, is spring swap a feasable option or am I design/safety limited to the minimum level.
Is there a 2nd adjustment for the sear engagement? Over travel , pre travel or anything else. Can I do a psudo 2 stage?
I am not expecting anything or preparing a bitch. Just asking what it has.
Are the aftermarket tikka CF triggers a drop in with the RF rifle. Here I am assuming aftermarket support.
I never owned a Tikka and need a little more review than the average reader.
Have you shot the RAR? They tend to shoot pretty well, and have a nice flush fitting magazine, a ball point pen spring will make that trigger sweet.
I have the trigger adjusted, the accuracy compared to CZ 452 and 455 is dismal to pathetic. I have tried two scopes , different ammo and it is ridiculously bad. I might end up just trading it to a gunshop just to get rid of it.
Have you shot the RAR? They tend to shoot pretty well, and have a nice flush fitting magazine, a ball point pen spring will make that trigger sweet.
I have the trigger adjusted, the accuracy compared to CZ 452 and 455 is dismal to pathetic. I have tried two scopes , different ammo and it is ridiculously bad. I might end up just trading it to a gunshop just to get rid of it.
You need to call Ruger and send it to them. They made it , let them.make it right. You will be doing them a favor.The only way their product consistency will improve is if they have to fix them..
The RAR .22LR sporter I had when shot litterally side by side with a very accurate 2016 CZ452 was so close in terms of grouping most folks here would not tell them apart.
Litterally 1/8" separated the overall group averages at 50 yards and many loads shot identically. My Ruger liked CCI mini Mags
You need to call Ruger and send it to them. They made it , let them.make it right. You will be doing them a favor.The only way their product consistency will improve is if they have to fix them..
The RAR .22LR sporter I had when shot litterally side by side with a very accurate 2016 CZ452 was so close in terms of grouping most folks here would not tell them apart.
Litterally 1/8" separated the overall group averages at 50 yards and many loads shot identically. My Ruger liked CCI mini Mags
What caliber was yoir RAR chambered in?
That is really good advice. Ruger will be real anxious to make it right for you.
I am not familiar with Tikka,. Can some one explain the trigger adjustments. The weight of pull, of course. How low will that go? And if it limits me, is spring swap a feasable option or am I design/safety limited to the minimum level.
Is there a 2nd adjustment for the sear engagement? Over travel , pre travel or anything else. Can I do a psudo 2 stage?
I am not expecting anything or preparing a bitch. Just asking what it has.
Are the aftermarket tikka CF triggers a drop in with the RF rifle. Here I am assuming aftermarket support.
I never owned a Tikka and need a little more review than the average reader.
I've never done anything beyond the factory adjustment however MT Tactical sells a spring replacement if you want to go below 2#'s. This is with T3's, my understanding is the t1 uses the same trigger group.
You need to call Ruger and send it to them. They made it , let them.make it right. You will be doing them a favor.The only way their product consistency will improve is if they have to fix them..
The RAR .22LR sporter I had when shot litterally side by side with a very accurate 2016 CZ452 was so close in terms of grouping most folks here would not tell them apart.
Litterally 1/8" separated the overall group averages at 50 yards and many loads shot identically. My Ruger liked CCI mini Mags
What caliber was yoir RAR chambered in?
That is really good advice. Ruger will be real anxious to make it right for you.
Same here with their preferred ammo very little difference in accuracy. CZ 452 is about 15 years old RAR is 3 years old
Have you shot the RAR? They tend to shoot pretty well, and have a nice flush fitting magazine, a ball point pen spring will make that trigger sweet.
I have the trigger adjusted, the accuracy compared to CZ 452 and 455 is dismal to pathetic. I have tried two scopes , different ammo and it is ridiculously bad. I might end up just trading it to a gunshop just to get rid of it.
You need to call Ruger and send it to them. They made it , let them.make it right. You will be doing them a favor.The only way their product consistency will improve is if they have to fix them..
The RAR .22LR sporter I had when shot litterally side by side with a very accurate 2016 CZ452 was so close in terms of grouping most folks here would not tell them apart.
Litterally 1/8" separated the overall group averages at 50 yards and many loads shot identically. My Ruger liked CCI mini Mags
What caliber was yoir RAR chambered in?
I know they are good at backing their products, this one is a dog. I might end up doing that
Have you shot the RAR? They tend to shoot pretty well, and have a nice flush fitting magazine, a ball point pen spring will make that trigger sweet.
I have the trigger adjusted, the accuracy compared to CZ 452 and 455 is dismal to pathetic. I have tried two scopes , different ammo and it is ridiculously bad. I might end up just trading it to a gunshop just to get rid of it.
You need to call Ruger and send it to them. They made it , let them.make it right. You will be doing them a favor.The only way their product consistency will improve is if they have to fix them..
The RAR .22LR sporter I had when shot litterally side by side with a very accurate 2016 CZ452 was so close in terms of grouping most folks here would not tell them apart.
Litterally 1/8" separated the overall group averages at 50 yards and many loads shot identically. My Ruger liked CCI mini Mags
Have you shot the RAR? They tend to shoot pretty well, and have a nice flush fitting magazine, a ball point pen spring will make that trigger sweet.
I have the trigger adjusted, the accuracy compared to CZ 452 and 455 is dismal to pathetic. I have tried two scopes , different ammo and it is ridiculously bad. I might end up just trading it to a gunshop just to get rid of it.
You need to call Ruger and send it to them. They made it , let them.make it right. You will be doing them a favor.The only way their product consistency will improve is if they have to fix them..
The RAR .22LR sporter I had when shot litterally side by side with a very accurate 2016 CZ452 was so close in terms of grouping most folks here would not tell them apart.
Litterally 1/8" separated the overall group averages at 50 yards and many loads shot identically. My Ruger liked CCI mini Mags
What caliber was yoir RAR chambered in?
I know they are good at backing their products, this one is a dog. I might end up doing that
If it is that bad, you should send it in.
They will issue you a call.tag and should pay the freight both ways.
Was able to swap stocks. It took a little more motivation than I originally thought, as the receiver just forward of the chamber seems wider than the T3. But now it’s just like my other Tikkas, Limbsaver pad and all.
By motivation I mean force. If you look closely at the pic, you’ll see a metal protrusion that runs forward of the chamber. This protrusion didn’t fit into the stock channel without a surprising amount of downward force. And no, I wasn’t misaligning the recoil lug slot. No sandpaper. The bedding screws pulled the action down nicely. The barrel is floated back to the recoil lug.
Me too....My gun distribution people said they don’t have any yet...Hope I see mine before April. Could have a had custom build in the same amount of time,,,for a lot more money. 😐😎
Was able to swap stocks. It took a little more motivation than I originally thought, as the receiver just forward of the chamber seems wider than the T3. But now it’s just like my other Tikkas, Limbsaver pad and all.
Have you shot the RAR? They tend to shoot pretty well, and have a nice flush fitting magazine, a ball point pen spring will make that trigger sweet.
I have the trigger adjusted, the accuracy compared to CZ 452 and 455 is dismal to pathetic. I have tried two scopes , different ammo and it is ridiculously bad. I might end up just trading it to a gunshop just to get rid of it.
You need to call Ruger and send it to them. They made it , let them.make it right. You will be doing them a favor.The only way their product consistency will improve is if they have to fix them..
The RAR .22LR sporter I had when shot litterally side by side with a very accurate 2016 CZ452 was so close in terms of grouping most folks here would not tell them apart.
Litterally 1/8" separated the overall group averages at 50 yards and many loads shot identically. My Ruger liked CCI mini Mags
What caliber was yoir RAR chambered in?
I know they are good at backing their products, this one is a dog. I might end up doing that
If it is that bad, you should send it in.
They will issue you a call.tag and should pay the freight both ways.
Just got off the phone with them and that is what they are doing. Thanks for the info, I had it sitting in timeout in the safe . I will report back when I get it back from them
What's the deal with the 'plastic piece' in front of the chamber area? I looked @ one today in .17HMR for $468. and I could not figure out what it was, nor did the salesman? (It had a trigger lock on it. I assume that's what the lawyers make them do these days?)
A nice little rimfire. I do wish they would make a 5 rd. magazine that would fit flush with the bottom of the stock, however! Thank you for any comments on the 'plastic piece'. I know little about them, I admit it.
The plastic piece your referring to is to fill the gap between the stock and barrel. The same stock is used for the T1X as the T3x , only 2 differences that I’m aware of........ the plastic barrel filler and the plastic butt verses the rubber butt pad
The plastic piece your referring to is to fill the gap between the stock and barrel. The same stock is used for the T1X as the T3x , only 2 differences that I’m aware of........ the plastic barrel filler and the plastic butt verses the rubber butt pad
mistem,
Thank you for your reply, I appreciate it! I assume it would look pretty much like a gap on each side of the barrel, IF the plastic piece was not in place then? I intend to check the rifle out again shortly - a bit more closely this time. (If Tikka made a stock to match the barrel profile of the rimfire, T1X, I suppose the cost would have been too much for a new mold?)
I tell you what, this thing is a nutria killing machine. I am very impressed with it. It’s set up just like my hunting rifles. I am convinced that it will drastically increase my shooting skills.
I tell you what, this thing is a nutria killing machine. I am very impressed with it. It’s set up just like my hunting rifles. I am convinced that it will drastically increase my shooting skills.
That is the type of statement that will spur some into a a buying position.
Nutria or muskrats??? I didn't know we had nutria out West.
BTW, just put a T1x on layaway at Sportman's tonight. I think their price was even a little better than the "pre-buy" price here on the 'fire. I was trying to stay strong but a local store put their Hornady 17HMR ammo on sale for $9 a box and I folded like a house of cards! Oh well... looking forward to introducing it to some jackrabbits in 2019!
Shipping to me (on a case, 2k) is $17, on par with $9/box of 50.
2k case is 17.75 cents per round, $9/box is 18 cents.
Dang that shipping!
Bi-Mart has 200 round packs of Hornady on sale for $34.97 ($8.75 per box) in their add that came out today. They had it for $7.99 on Black Friday, so I picked up 15 boxes then.
Have you shot the RAR? They tend to shoot pretty well, and have a nice flush fitting magazine, a ball point pen spring will make that trigger sweet.
I have the trigger adjusted, the accuracy compared to CZ 452 and 455 is dismal to pathetic. I have tried two scopes , different ammo and it is ridiculously bad. I might end up just trading it to a gunshop just to get rid of it.
I have an RAR in 22LR and 22MAG. Both of them will group their favorite ammo at 1/2 or better at 50 yards. The norm for RAR rimfires is that you will find a very accurate load or two. If your is that bad, send it back. It sucks to have to do that. I have a hard time dumping a defective rifle on someone else.
Have you shot the RAR? They tend to shoot pretty well, and have a nice flush fitting magazine, a ball point pen spring will make that trigger sweet.
I have the trigger adjusted, the accuracy compared to CZ 452 and 455 is dismal to pathetic. I have tried two scopes , different ammo and it is ridiculously bad. I might end up just trading it to a gunshop just to get rid of it.
I have an RAR in 22LR and 22MAG. Both of them will group their favorite ammo at 1/2 or better at 50 yards. The norm for RAR rimfires is that you will find a very accurate load or two. If your is that bad, send it back. It sucks to have to do that. I have a hard time dumping a defective rifle on someone else.
Yeah it is going back, I am supposed to receive a UPS call ticket and no I would not dump that off on anyone
Picked my T1X .22 up today. Like the sharper molded in checkering on the stock. Much easier to hang on to. 5lb, 13oz. bare rifle. 6lb, 14oz with 10 rounds in the magazine, Outback II can, and Leupold 2.5x8x40 sitting in a pair of 16Bore lowered Talley rings. Yes, the rings are milled a little wide. But they are workable. Had to take 0.055" off the three long screws to clear the bolt raceway. First 10 rounds off hand fed, fired, and ejected without issue. Will try to set up the bench and do target work tomorrow.
Questions: (1) Where can I pick up extra magazine? And are there any 5 round magazines available? (2) Where can I find grip inserts to change up the wrist geometry ? Specifically wondering if there is anything thinner / more open than the stock grip insert. I see the fuller / more closed insert. I did a quick Google search looking for aftermarket parts. However, did not see a lot.
Bi-Mart has 200 round packs of Hornady on sale for $34.97 ($8.75 per box) in their add that came out today. They had it for $7.99 on Black Friday, so I picked up 15 boxes then.
Good thread, yes I don't blame you on that Pharm - that pic above, my bad, was Mistem. Looked like the bottom pic was not a Leupold.- resting on the door handles
Yep, that round def much flatter than that ole BSA
Got two more this morning. Lung shot the first one, pretended he was a trophy buck, crosshairs low, tight to the shoulder. He jumped around for a while, then escaped into the creek. CNS (just like everything else) is the only way to prevent escape. Too bad, the bald eagles are really showing up.
This guy made the mistake of swimming by on the surface. Spined him just behind the head, he ceased his forward motion soonest. Note the blood trail.
I just ordered a case of 2,000 from Wholesale Hunter. $342 shipped. That’s $8.55/box. Not bad.
Too bad you didn't buy some from bi-mart about 3 months ago, when the federals were $7.99/box... I stocked up on ammo then and actually bought 2 17HMR rifles... Ended up selling my 10-22 because the 17 is funner to shoot, and more accurate...
Picked my T1X .22 up today. Like the sharper molded in checkering on the stock. Much easier to hang on to. 5lb, 13oz. bare rifle. 6lb, 14oz with 10 rounds in the magazine, Outback II can, and Leupold 2.5x8x40 sitting in a pair of 16Bore lowered Talley rings. Yes, the rings are milled a little wide. But they are workable. Had to take 0.055" off the three long screws to clear the bolt raceway. First 10 rounds off hand fed, fired, and ejected without issue. Will try to set up the bench and do target work tomorrow.
Questions: (1) Where can I pick up extra magazine? And are there any 5 round magazines available? (2) Where can I find grip inserts to change up the wrist geometry ? Specifically wondering if there is anything thinner / more open than the stock grip insert. I see the fuller / more closed insert. I did a quick Google search looking for aftermarket parts. However, did not see a lot.
I want to see an honest write up of that gun using various types of ammo! please!!
Like others suggested I sent the Ruger American .22 LR back to Ruger. THey had it for 3 days and I got it today. They had to recrown the barrel and sent me a test target. If it shoots that good I will buy another one or two in a heartbeat.
Pharmseller: There are NO Bi-Marts in Montana where I live but when I travel west to the coast for gunshows I make it a point to stop at the Bi-Marts on the way, they often have excellent prices on rimfire ammo and rare ammo IN STOCK! I have done this for MANY years now. What is your perceived beef with Bi-Mart - I have heard nothing negative about them. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
Like others suggested I sent the Ruger American .22 LR back to Ruger. THey had it for 3 days and I got it today. They had to recrown the barrel and sent me a test target. If it shoots that good I will buy another one or two in a heartbeat.
Pharmseller: There are NO Bi-Marts in Montana where I live but when I travel west to the coast for gunshows I make it a point to stop at the Bi-Marts on the way, they often have excellent prices on rimfire ammo and rare ammo IN STOCK! I have done this for MANY years now. What is your perceived beef with Bi-Mart - I have heard nothing negative about them. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
Bi-Mart decided to hop on the virtue-signaling bus and refuse to sell shotguns and long guns to those under 21.
Not 18, which is the legal limit.
Why support Bi Mart?
Their policies infringe on my son’s Second Amendment rights.
From their press release:
“As part of the national debate on gun sales, Bi-Mart and Cascade Farm and Outdoor stores, a division of Bi-Mart, issued a statement clarifying the company’s policy with three key elements.
Bi-Mart has always carried a mix of merchandise that supported the shooting sports and hunting community and will continue to do so. Bi-Mart has never stocked or sold AK or AR platform rifles or bump-stocks and nor high-capacity magazines for these firearms and will not stock them in the future. While emphasizing that Bi-Mart’s policies for firearm sales meet or exceed all Federal and State laws where they operate and currently follow all government age restrictions., the release says Bi-Mart believes increasing the minimum age for purchase of firearms to age 21 “is a step in the right direction,” and announces that they will now only sell guns and ammunition to those 21 or older that meet state and federal requirements for purchasing firearms.”
A step in the right direction? Which direction would that be? I guess it’s the direction that erodes our gun rights.
I have not stepped foot into a Bi-Mart since they adopted this policy.
Like others suggested I sent the Ruger American .22 LR back to Ruger. THey had it for 3 days and I got it today. They had to recrown the barrel and sent me a test target. If it shoots that good I will buy another one or two in a heartbeat.
Again thanks for the tip on sending it back.
Ruger frustrates me in some ways. They make guns that are very appealing to me. Their QC needs major improvement though. Their Customer Service after the sale rarely disappoints. Thankfully.
Finally got a range session today. Dead on at 50 yards put me a half inch high at 100. 200 yards was 6 1/2” low. Wind played hell with that little bullet at 200 but if you doped it right you could break clay pigeons.
Finally got a range session today. Dead on at 50 yards put me a half inch high at 100. 200 yards was 6 1/2” low. Wind played hell with that little bullet at 200 but if you doped it right you could break clay pigeons.
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You're pretty much dealing with 500+ yard CF drift with a 22LR at 200. Makes paying big bucks for high grade 22 LR ammo worth every penny.
Do you have any concern, when nutria hunting, about adding to the lead poisoning problems birds-of-prey and carrion eaters are suffering? If you were to use head shots exclusively, would it be practical to decapitate the nutria and bury the head (where lead fragments will be found)?
I think deceitful to show photos of the gun without the magazine. The ugly POS is a deal breaker for me. Maybe I exaggerate, but; lets not hide the truth. Picture the complete rifle when showing off the new stocks and scopes.
Do you have any concern, when nutria hunting, about adding to the lead poisoning problems birds-of-prey and carrion eaters are suffering? If you were to use head shots exclusively, would it be practical to decapitate the nutria and bury the head (where lead fragments will be found)?
Nope, no concerns. But if you’re worried about it, send me a PM and I’ll let you know where the carcasses are. Bring a shovel and you can bury them.
I think deceitful to show photos of the gun without the magazine. The ugly POS is a deal breaker for me. Maybe I exaggerate, but; lets not hide the truth. Picture the complete rifle when showing off the new stocks and scopes.
Calling a man deceitful could be taken as rude behavior.
That said, I have no problem with the appearance including the magazine. What the hell, it ain’t like we’re talking about titties.
Pharm.....I can't believe you ruined it for fourbore. You're salesmanship is questionable. There are rules for posting pictures of rifles. First and foremost, you MUST show the magazine. Rick has a sticky about this, I hope you're not reduced to one post per day.
Dammit man, just when you think a guy is kosher......
Enjoying the discussion. I finally got my T1X in 22lr. Scoped it with Warne rings and an old Vari-X III in 4.5-14. I had an assortment of 22 ammo on hand, so I thought I’d see how well the rifle shot. I did 10 shot groups with Rem Thunderbolt, Rem Golden, CCI minimags, Federal bulk ammo, and Federal Auto Match. Both Of the Remingtons shot 1.5 inch groups at 50 yards, with groups being vertical. The CCI and Federal bulk was about 7/8 inch, and the Federal Auto Match was at 5/8”, with all but one in one hole. Then I read the owners manual and it said 1 MOA was guaranteed at 50 yards with 3 shot groups. So I shot some 3 shot groups with the Auto Match and it easily met the guarantee. Smallest group was one slightly elongated hole.
At 100 yards, in a gusty wind, using the Auto Match, the best I could do was 1.5 inches. Next calm day I’ll try again.
I haven’t adjusted the trigger yet, and I need to try some better ammo. I really like the rifle.
I think the stock is the same as the T3X stock, but I have not tried to swap them. I plan to try other ammo, but haven’t bought any yet. I won’t buy the real expensive target ammo, but will try CCI sv and Blazer lead RN.
Pharm.....I can't believe you ruined it for fourbore. You're salesmanship is questionable. There are rules for posting pictures of rifles. First and foremost, you MUST show the magazine. Rick has a sticky about this, I hope you're not reduced to one post per day.
Dammit man, just when you think a guy is kosher......
My apologies. I just changed my meds, trying to reduce the voices in my head.
I took three more nutes off the board yesterday. To my great and abiding shame I left them for the scavengers, risking the very foundations of Nature with the excess of lead particles offered by the 17-grain V-Max.
603country how did that vari-x 4.5-14 do at rimfire distances? i'm about to rimfireize a couple VX-3 4.5-14x50mm for a couple of my cz 22lr's. thanks, Big Ed
Whitearrow, the 4.5-14 has the Varmint Hunter reticle and the parallax adjusts down to 50 yards (and maybe 25, but I can’t remember). The fine crosshairs in the reticle are perfect for my needs. Mine has the 40 mm bell, and the folks at Warne recommended the 721M rings, which are perfect. But you probably need the taller size.
Well, Stick, this old Vari-X III 4.5-14 was on my 270 for about 20 years and never gave me a problem. It hung in there for at least 150 deer and never failed or drifted. This is a set&forget type scope, so tracking and repeating have never been asked of it. A couple of years ago I replaced it with a more modern version of the same scope and sent this one off to Leupold for the VH reticle. They did as I asked and also replaced the ‘guts’ with new stuff. I had it on my 223 for a time, then moved it to the Tikka T1X. For the 22, I really like the fine crosshairs and that it will go to 25 yards on the parallax. And the new VX3 4.5-14 hasn’t failed either, but i’ll keep an eye on it, just in case.
I have had two Leupold scopes need work over the many years. A VX2 6-18 had to go back for work, and I had a lens (something glass) come loose in a very old M8 6X. I bought it used in the middle to late 70’s, and the glass came loose in about 2016 or so. Leupold didn’t fix it, but just sent me a brand new one. I have no problem with Leupold (or Vortex or Burris).
Kilt another nute today, headshot around 70 yards. Really cool, it was raining so the pelt was soaked, I saw the water fly off him when the little bullet hit.
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