Just looking at the website and it’s nowhere to be found.

Whatever they did it appears to be piss poor marketing! Don't kill your best seller!

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Would be a shame if so. My favorite of the kimber offerings.

Weird I just went to their site and looked. Surely they aren’t getting rid of their best rifles?

Wow, I see what you mean. That just doesn't make any sense at all. Glad I have all that I need of those. Once I find a Classic Select in 257 Rob, with good wood, I think I might be done buying Kimbers.

Huh. Yeah, man, that would be crazy.

It was just on there a couple days ago when I was looking but now gone. Glad I picked up the 6.5 when I did.

Seems impossible that they'd pull a stunt like that... But then again, I thought a fast twist .223 Hunter would have been a no brainer and they've successfully put off making any of those so far, so....

I don’t think that they have built a Montana since moving from NY to AL as I have not seen any rifles they make with the new AL roll mark except for the 6.5 Special Edition and some Hunters. They may be using previously rollmarked barrels from before the move, but it’s been a long time question as to whether they have any rifle production this year.

Sure enough, I guess...

Yesterday there were 7 or so options on their Mountain Rifle page. Today only three.

https://www.kimberamerica.com/rifles/rifle-family?layer&corporate_rifle_family=202

-Chris

Glad I got mine when I did then.

Huh....wild.

It doesn’t make $$ sense to me at all, although I don’t care for the threaded barrel at all.
I have two Hunter models and agree with GTscotty, that a fast twist Hunter .223 would be a real money maker.

IT smacks of not having hunter/shooters making the marketing decisions.......

Damn! I will call Kimber and see what they have to say but i bet the geniuses in management have decided to discontinue the Montana.....Hb

Since profits are everything to comanies any more I would think the profit margins on their rifles were not as good as the 1911 pistols. I think they would give up the rifle lines in order to make more of the popular 1911s.

Dumb decision, especially when Barrett has stopped making the Fieldcraft and NULA is out of a lot of hunters' price range. I'd think the Montana could rule the roost now.

Agreed.

Likely a higher profit margin on the mountain ascent, but I’ve never seen the appeal over the stock Montana - and I’m an ounces guy.

Probably can crank out cheapo hunter stocks and raise the price on that sku and go from there.

I hate how the dollar is more important than anything else sometimes. There is more to it in this industry.

And with a tiny bit of imagination the profit would be MORE, not less.

They know how produce good rifles if they choose to do the job right, but they don't give much consideration to customer opinions and wants. Hell of an attitude and business model.

No worry's...I called Kimber and the guy (Jordan) said they are still making the Montana and that they just took the Montana model off the site to update some specs and it should be back up and listed in a few days 👍.....Hb

What are the differences between the Montana and the other "mountain rifles"? I think I recall it was a solid color stock? Longer barrel, threaded or not? "Mountain Rifle" barrel contour versus Sporter or whatever?

-Chris

Hunter - Plastic stock, no barrel threading, no fluting
Montana - Kevlar stock, solid colour only, no fluting, threaded barrel, pillar bedded
Mountain ascent - Kevlar stock, different colour/pattern options, threaded barrel w/brake, pillar bedded, fluted bolt/barrel
Adirondack - Kevlar stock, one pattern option, 18(.5?)” barrel, threaded barrel, fluted bolt, pillar bedded

I think the new adirondacks have started using the same trigger guard as the Montana’s/MA’s?? They used to be a heavy stainless guard. I don’t own a new model so someone else with one would have to confirm.

There hasn't been any Kevlar in a Kimber stock in a long time. Even when there was, it was a small amount in the recoil lug pocket. In addition, there's virtually no carbon fiber in the Costa Rica made stocks, probably less than 0.01%. The Montana, Mountain Ascent, Adirondack, Subalpine and Talkeetna stocks consist of a two-part polyeurethane foam core with an outer shell consisting of fiberglass and resin.

The best synthetic stock that Kimber offers is the one made by AG Composites that's used on the Open Range/Open Country 84M rifles. That has a lot of carbon fiber in it, i.e. the entire outer shell is made from a carbon fiber prepreg.

The Hunter stock is a 20% glass-filled polypropylene and it's one of the stiffest stocks available at that price point. The company that makes it also makes stocks for many of the big rifle manufacturers and they will tell you that the Hunter is the best stock they make.

Good to hear. Thanks for the update.

Good gawd! I was worrying... I don't like all those dipped stocks.

Thanks for that information.

Pity the Hunter doesn’t feel the same as the Montana. Too sharp and not as face supporting.

Thanks for that information MCMXI.
I will admit to being slightly disappointed to learn that the Montana stocks are more fiberglass than kevlar. Do you know when they stopped with the kevlar in the Montana's?

Not looking, but the Hunter my son has is a good rifle at a fair price point. I could live with one if need be.

One of the challenges when making an injection molded part is that when the mold pulls away from the part it can cause damage if the mold and part surfaces are in shear. The most favorable geometry is when the direction of pull is perpendicular to the surface of the part, but as you can imagine, that's not possible everywhere. The comb of the Hunter stock had to have a different geometry compared to the Montana in order to avoid damage during mold/part separation. I hope that makes sense.



Even when there was Kevlar it was only in the recoil lug pocket and not much of it. It was a gimmick more than anything and it became difficult to export Kevlar to Costa Rica so it was dropped from use. Even the carbon fiber content only consists of six 1/4" wide ribbons running along each side of the stock, three per side. It doesn't matter though because a properly made fiberglass stock can still be an excellent product. AG Composites uses prepreg sheets to make their stocks. They make a "canoe" which is then filled with low density, high strength fillers. They make some of the best stocks available.

Thanks MCMX1 ( I see what you did there!).

I prefer the Montana stock, regret selling my Montana 260 a few years ago. Would be nice to see a better stock on the Hunter, or a great aftermarket one.

The limited chambering offering (308 Win only) for the Super America has been befuddling to me.

[quote=RedRabbit]The limited chambering offering (308 Win only) for the Super America has been befuddling to me.

Unfortunately, limited and frustrating chamberings are common across of the line of Kimber rifles. They also ought to quit porting so many barrels and chamberings.

308 is missing from the line up.

No! Why no 308?

There is a better stock on a Hunter. It’s called a Montana.

So is the 270. Probably still getting things updated.

Can homey get a 6 Creede offered

Too right!

But a Montana is about $1000 or more than a Hunter here down under!

I hope not a Montana chambered in 7/08 is on my short list

Does AG Composites sell the Montana stock to the public? Looked for one to replace a Montana Hunter stock but no luck on their site.

Thanks,
G

That'd be a nice little deer killin' rig.

the web site i just looked at shows the montana still being offered, but not in 308 win. can't image a company discontinuing their best seller, unless their trying to point potential buyers to the hunter line. cheaper to produce with more plastic, built for the new, younger gun buyers i guess.

Please post a link to your findings. I see no Montana on the Kimber site. Oooops, I see it now. Comes under the Mountain.
If only available with the screw on muzzle, needs to include a hacksaw!

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I called AG and they will not sell the Kimber stock to the public.

Well horse feathers!