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Posted By: ChrisAU Wyoming Arms Suppressors - 04/19/22
Anyone here with experience? I’m tired of my Cooper M92 280AI with the factory brake, but I enjoy the recoil reduction. I’d gladly take a bit more recoil for reduced concussion and noise. Their 4” Ti has had my attention for over a year now, think it’d be perfect on my rifle if they’d do a .284/.30 with a 1/2-28 thread. My rifle is even cerakoted FDE. I know it wouldn’t be pleasant in the range but it has to be a dramatic difference in the woods compared to the brake. I’d only be adding 2.25” and 3 oz or so once the brake is removed.

Forgot to add that now with E-file out there I’m tempted to just call em up and order one. Hoping the local place that I just did e-file with on a SilencerCo Sparrow will accept it for transfer, but if they won’t I know a local SOT Class 3 too.
Burns says they're the best.
Definitely worth calling them, but my understanding is that no one does a 1/2-28 thread suppressor for .30. At least not that I have seen. I read an explanation of it once, but can’t remember it well enough to even paraphrase why they won’t. I am in the same situation as you. My Tikka is threaded 1/2-28 and I would want a direct thread suppressor and not have to use an adapter/brake. I want to get the weight and number of components down.
Posted By: ChrisAU Re: Wyoming Arms Suppressors - 04/19/22
Originally Posted by DanGilbertTX
Definitely worth calling them, but my understanding is that no one does a 1/2-28 thread suppressor for .30. At least not that I have seen. I read an explanation of it once, but can’t remember it well enough to even paraphrase why they won’t. I am in the same situation as you. My Tikka is threaded 1/2-28 and I would want a direct thread suppressor and not have to use an adapter/brake. I want to get the weight and number of components down.


I've used my SilencerCo Omega 300 direct threaded on a 1/2-28 threaded 300 PRC with no issue. I have Titanium base caps from Energetic Armament that I swap back and forth on it in both 1/2-28 and 5/8-24 depending on use. It's lighter than the original SilencerCo cap.

https://energeticarms.com/direct-thread-adapters/
Posted By: taylorce1 Re: Wyoming Arms Suppressors - 04/19/22
Some suppressors will allow you to do 1/2-28 thread, I know my suppressor will. It would cost me about $100 to buy the direct thread mount for 1/2-28 and a couple seconds to switch out. There isn't much technical info on the Wyoming Arms Suppressors on their web site.

You can also just buy a Barrel Thread Adapter for $15, you'll also need some "rock set" or Loctite and some washers if you want to time it. I'm sure there is a gunsmith that can make an adapter that will give you 5/8-24 threads and make it look like part of your barrel. They could probably coat it to match as well.
Posted By: WiFowler Re: Wyoming Arms Suppressors - 04/19/22
Couple of things here to consider. 1) In another 'suppressor' thread here on the 'Fire, John (Burns) of Wyoming Arms provided some info on their cans. Might worth the effort to search for that info. 2) A call to Wyoming arms would be a good idea. Might be that you'll find they use an 'industry standard' thread on the back end of the suppressor, thus permitting the use of either 5/8-24, 1/2-28, or QD mounts. Let us know what you find out.

On a similar note, there are companies out there that make adapters to go from 1/2-28 to 5/8-24. Personally, I'd be a little cautious of these, as they have the potential to 'stack' tolerances, which could end up with a baffle strike and/or a grenaded can.
Posted By: ChrisAU Re: Wyoming Arms Suppressors - 04/19/22
Their cans are user serviceable, and come in 1/2-28 and 5/8-24, so I'm hoping they'll be able to sell me a 30 cal can with a 1/2-28 direct thread cap. Would be swapping components. I think they actually told me they could when I called a couple years ago when they first came out. Will call them this morning.
Posted By: WiFowler Re: Wyoming Arms Suppressors - 04/19/22
Let us know. Inquiring minds want to know . . . .
Posted By: turkish Re: Wyoming Arms Suppressors - 04/19/22
IIRC, the big mystery with their suppressors is, well, how much do they suppress… because they were about the only mfg that wouldn’t tell you. I could be misremembering. Hopefully so.
Posted By: JGRaider Re: Wyoming Arms Suppressors - 04/19/22
Resonator K is highly rated and available. Not only is it an outstanding, compact can, you don't have to screw around with giving the narcissistic loser Burns or give his company any of your hard earned money.
Posted By: ChrisAU Re: Wyoming Arms Suppressors - 04/19/22
Originally Posted by turkish
IIRC, the big mystery with their suppressors is, well, how much do they suppress… because they were about the only mfg that wouldn’t tell you. I could be misremembering. Hopefully so.


Yeah I'm not expecting it to be whisper quiet. It boils down to which configuration I want below:

With Cooper brake: 1.5" longer than capped, less recoil, more noise/concussion

Capped: As short as it gets, more recoil, middle ground noise/concussion

4" Baby Suppressor: 2.25" longer than braked, 3.5" longer than capped. Less recoil, less noise/concussion.

I just think for 3 oz and 2.25" of length I'll be happy with the blast and noise reduction over the brake, even if its still pretty loud, and I need some recoil reduction to remain.
Posted By: SKane Re: Wyoming Arms Suppressors - 04/19/22
Originally Posted by ChrisAU
Originally Posted by DanGilbertTX
Definitely worth calling them, but my understanding is that no one does a 1/2-28 thread suppressor for .30. At least not that I have seen. I read an explanation of it once, but can’t remember it well enough to even paraphrase why they won’t. I am in the same situation as you. My Tikka is threaded 1/2-28 and I would want a direct thread suppressor and not have to use an adapter/brake. I want to get the weight and number of components down.


I've used my SilencerCo Omega 300 direct threaded on a 1/2-28 threaded 300 PRC with no issue. I have Titanium base caps from Energetic Armament that I swap back and forth on it in both 1/2-28 and 5/8-24 depending on use. It's lighter than the original SilencerCo cap.

https://energeticarms.com/direct-thread-adapters/



Chris - they denote end caps on the site but the page isn't found. Have you played with those per chance?
If someone would offer specific caliber end caps that could be swapped out for the Omega 300, they'd sell a pantload of them.
Posted By: ChrisAU Re: Wyoming Arms Suppressors - 04/19/22
Originally Posted by SKane
Originally Posted by ChrisAU
Originally Posted by DanGilbertTX
Definitely worth calling them, but my understanding is that no one does a 1/2-28 thread suppressor for .30. At least not that I have seen. I read an explanation of it once, but can’t remember it well enough to even paraphrase why they won’t. I am in the same situation as you. My Tikka is threaded 1/2-28 and I would want a direct thread suppressor and not have to use an adapter/brake. I want to get the weight and number of components down.


I've used my SilencerCo Omega 300 direct threaded on a 1/2-28 threaded 300 PRC with no issue. I have Titanium base caps from Energetic Armament that I swap back and forth on it in both 1/2-28 and 5/8-24 depending on use. It's lighter than the original SilencerCo cap.

https://energeticarms.com/direct-thread-adapters/



Chris - they denote end caps on the site but the page isn't found. Have you played with those per chance?
If someone would offer specific caliber end caps that could be swapped out for the Omega 300, they'd sell a pantload of them.


I have a Hansohn end cap for mine:

https://hansohnbrothers.com/shop/hansohn-brothers/accessories/front-caps/hansohn-titanium-front-cap/
Posted By: SKane Re: Wyoming Arms Suppressors - 04/19/22


I have a couple of those too but hoping someone would offer them in 6.5 and 6mm too.
Posted By: ChrisAU Re: Wyoming Arms Suppressors - 04/19/22
Originally Posted by SKane


I have a couple of those too but hoping someone would offer them in 6.5 and 6mm too.


SilencerCo AC4754 is a 6.5mm front cap that fits the Omega 300:

https://silencerco.com/shop/bravo-front-cap/
Posted By: SKane Re: Wyoming Arms Suppressors - 04/19/22
Beauty - thanks! Hadn't seen that aperture on there before.

Apologies for side-tracking the thread.
Posted By: ChrisAU Re: Wyoming Arms Suppressors - 04/19/22
Alright, just got off the phone with them. Very easy to work with. Its ordered. 1/2-28 30 Cal 4 squared Ti. Said it will take them a few days to build it and ship it since its not a normal configuration. Local SOT that does e-files in about 10 minutes accepted it for a small fee which is fine. Now the wait.
Posted By: WiFowler Re: Wyoming Arms Suppressors - 04/19/22
Originally Posted by ChrisAU
Alright, just got off the phone with them. Very easy to work with. Its ordered. 1/2-28 30 Cal 4 squared Ti. Said it will take them a few days to build it and ship it since its not a normal configuration. Local SOT that does e-files in about 10 minutes accepted it for a small fee which is fine. Now the wait.


Good deal. When you get it in hand, and have had a chance to shoot it, report (no pun intended) back on your thought.
Posted By: Kaleb Re: Wyoming Arms Suppressors - 04/19/22
Good thread. I’ll be following along.
Posted By: Kaleb Re: Wyoming Arms Suppressors - 04/19/22
While several people that use suppressors are looking at this thread. What covers do you like? Not only the mirage but I just have one right now and for swapping it around with other rifles. Old pair of leather gloves is working for the swapping but a little red neck….haha
Posted By: ChrisAU Re: Wyoming Arms Suppressors - 04/19/22
Originally Posted by Kaleb
While several people that use suppressors are looking at this thread. What covers do you like? Not only the mirage but I just have one right now and for swapping it around with other rifles. Old pair of leather gloves is working for the swapping but a little red neck….haha


I like the Cole Tac HTP:

https://www.cole-tac.com/product/htp-suppressor-cover/#cover-base-color
Posted By: WiFowler Re: Wyoming Arms Suppressors - 04/19/22
Originally Posted by Kaleb
While several people that use suppressors are looking at this thread. What covers do you like? Not only the mirage but I just have one right now and for swapping it around with other rifles. Old pair of leather gloves is working for the swapping but a little red neck….haha


I've got Cole-Tac's on all of mine. HTP on one; Python on another, and Baby Python on the .22RF can. Not sure where I'll go with the HTP or Python (maybe Metal Python) on the KGM R65 I have pending.

https://www.cole-tac.com/
Posted By: JGRaider Re: Wyoming Arms Suppressors - 04/19/22
There's a guy over on Texas Hunting Forum that has very high quality covers at great prices. I have a couple and they're excellent.
Posted By: frank500 Re: Wyoming Arms Suppressors - 04/19/22
I run a 5 squared on my 18” 308. I tried all four variations in the office and picked the 5” titanium. Recoil reduction was my need, the noise is less. The shot sound is lessened, an observer at a hundred yards could not tell where the shot originated from. Mine is threaded 5/8x 24. My Kimber barrel is threaded 1/2x28 due to the lack of diameter. I threaded it to fit the adaptor in hand so tolerance stack was minimized to the adaptor. I have not taken it off after install. Been two years and no issues. Lots of rounds and lots of hunting
Posted By: ChrisAU Re: Wyoming Arms Suppressors - 04/19/22
Originally Posted by frank500
I run a 5 squared on my 18” 308. I tried all four variations in the office and picked the 5” titanium. Recoil reduction was my need, the noise is less. The shot sound is lessened, an observer at a hundred yards could not tell where the shot originated from. Mine is threaded 5/8x 24. My Kimber barrel is threaded 1/2x28 due to the lack of diameter. I threaded it to fit the adaptor in hand so tolerance stack was minimized to the adaptor. I have not taken it off after install. Been two years and no issues. Lots of rounds and lots of hunting


Nice! I'll likely get 5 squared for my 12" 6.5 Grendel SBR if I like this 4 squared on my 280AI.
Why wouldn't you put the smaller muffler on the smaller engine?....
Posted By: ChrisAU Re: Wyoming Arms Suppressors - 04/19/22
Originally Posted by huntsman22
Why wouldn't you put the smaller muffler on the smaller engine?....


To keep overall size of the 22” rifle down, and length is less of a consideration in the 12” rifle vs the 22”, while muzzle blast is more of a consideration on the 12” vs the 22”.
Posted By: ChrisAU Re: Wyoming Arms Suppressors - 04/27/22
Well I’m on day 0.

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Posted By: drano 25 Re: Wyoming Arms Suppressors - 04/28/22
I think this video speaks to the concerns of 1/2” muzzle threads. The smaller the thread and the larger the bore, the thinner the steel and increased opportunity for the the result shown in the video.

https://youtu.be/CUm_YXzJJOU
Posted By: ChrisAU Re: Wyoming Arms Suppressors - 04/28/22
Originally Posted by drano 25
I think this video speaks to the concerns of 1/2” muzzle threads. The smaller the thread and the larger the bore, the thinner the steel and increased opportunity for the the result shown in the video.

https://youtu.be/CUm_YXzJJOU


Don’t see how that applies to a barrel that’s already threaded and has been shot safely and extremely accurately a few hundred times, unless I’m missing something.
Posted By: drano 25 Re: Wyoming Arms Suppressors - 04/28/22
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Originally Posted by ChrisAU
Originally Posted by drano 25
I think this video speaks to the concerns of 1/2” muzzle threads. The smaller the thread and the larger the bore, the thinner the steel and increased opportunity for the the result shown in the video.

https://youtu.be/CUm_YXzJJOU


Don’t see how that applies to a barrel that’s already threaded and has been shot safely and extremely accurately a few hundred times, unless I’m missing something.


It was intended to be a reply to DanGilbert’s comment.

To your point, even if the bore does open up slightly at the muzzle where it is threaded, it doesn’t necessarily mean there will be an accuracy issue.
Posted By: ChrisAU Re: Wyoming Arms Suppressors - 04/28/22
Originally Posted by drano 25
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Originally Posted by ChrisAU
Originally Posted by drano 25
I think this video speaks to the concerns of 1/2” muzzle threads. The smaller the thread and the larger the bore, the thinner the steel and increased opportunity for the the result shown in the video.

https://youtu.be/CUm_YXzJJOU


Don’t see how that applies to a barrel that’s already threaded and has been shot safely and extremely accurately a few hundred times, unless I’m missing something.


It was intended to be a reply to DanGilbert’s comment.

To your point, even if the bore does open up slightly at the muzzle where it is threaded, it doesn’t necessarily mean there will be an accuracy issue.


Ah I gotcha!
Posted By: Akbob5 Re: Wyoming Arms Suppressors - 04/28/22
Great thread bump. I’m just entering the suppressor game and at the same time thinking about playing with building a couple Short Barrel Rifles (SBRs) so this and John Burns thread have caught my attention.
Originally Posted by JGRaider
Resonator K is highly rated and available. Not only is it an outstanding, compact can, you don't have to screw around with giving the narcissistic loser Burns or give his company any of your hard earned money.


My thoughts exactly. Be the last place I’d look.
Posted By: djb Re: Wyoming Arms Suppressors - 05/01/22
Wow, that is 22 LR size. Suppression has to be very limited especially on a 280ai. Hope you are happy with it. Give a report when you get it out of jail
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