Gunbroker is full of nosler 21s in 6.5 (creed & prc) at $1500. Couldn’t even assemble the parts for that as a retail guy. What’s the story on these? Did they ever get the feed issues sorted on the prc?

It’s interesting that these things have had such a spread price-wise; some days the cheapest is $2200 others they are all over for $1500.

Had to look to see WTF a Nosler 21 was/is….. hard to beat a semi custom action, TriggerTech and McMillan edge stock at 1500.00 … No mention of WHO makes the barrel on the website…

I mistakenly believed that Howa built the M21 for Nosler?

Supposedly Shillen.

Damn… That would be tough to beat price wise at 1500-1800.00 with a Shilen barrel. I know I couldn’t get it built for that.

Retailing costs if bought piecemeal.

Action 800.00
Stock 700.00
Barrel 325.00
Trigger 125.00
Bottom metal 100.00

Assembly 200-400.00

$1500? Wow! It’s a good thing I’m not buying any more rifles.

Well, close enough anyway.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/946946967

And the prc.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/954328324

Feeding issue was just the 6.5 PRC. They are a solid rifle. My only complaint is the bolt handle is bulky and doesn’t allow for low mounted optics.

Buds has them for $1,463 with free shipping. Good thing I told myself no new rifles till I sell some.

Better get busy.

Definitely cheaper than you could build.

Whoops

Roll the dice with a Nosler rifle if you wish. I sure as hell won't.

What’s your story..?

What's the story on the stock?

They said up there^ it’s a McMillan edge

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...9017/my-divorce-from-nosler#Post15689017

Yeah, guess I should have read more carefully. That stock looks like the typical shape of a Hunters Edge, which is why I asked. A stock I essentially despise. Still, as has been pointed out, a lot of rifle for the money.

i thought i was the only one that hated that stock on this forum

Who makes the action?

Mack bros.

I have one in 300 win but I haven't shot it yet. My 2 main complaints are ejection angle and cheek weld. The action has an m16 style extractor that ejects at a higher angle than I like. I don't like bouncing cases off my windage turret and back into the action. Their answer is to mount the scope higher but the drop on the stock gives you no cheek weld even with lower mounts.

The bedding on mine also looks like crap but I'll have to see how it shoots. It's too bad they couldn't get the ejection angle and stock right because other than that it looks really well machined and finished and is a lotof rifle for the money. It gets many things right for a good price. If I didn't run scopes with large dials I'd probably really like it. It looks like a really good attempt by Oregon guys that don't actually shoot much in the field. Other than the ejection angle mine cycles and feeds great.

Too bad these custom action companies are often stuck on m16 or sako extractors. Bouncing off of windage turrets is a pet peeve of mine. I'm still looking for a good custom action with a flat ejection angle and a mostly open top port that you can load a bdl mag easily from. It is very close to being an awesome rifle and value. If you're a set and forget scope guy that doesn't dial and the stock fits you it's a he'll of a lot of gun for the money.

Too bad nosler isn't the kind of company that will listen to customers and make changes as needed. A few small changes and they could do quite well. The feeding problems have all been 6.5 prc as far as u know. From what ive heard Nosler screwed some people around instead of dealing with it head on and put instant stink on their new rifle.


Bb

I’d take one in 308. At $1500, looks like a sore dik deal.

As to the stock. The comb is a bit low. I love it besides that. A 3/8 or so comb pad resolved the issue for me.

It does surprise me so many companies do that damned extractor. Christensen was my first foray there. With my 300 RUM it was next to impossible and I finally sold the damn thing. Same problem, mount a scope high enough it ejects and then you have your head damned near off the stock.

They should dump that morphodite 22 Nosler and do a 1:7 22 Creed or 1:7 22-250.

Hell yeah! I'd be in on that!

That would be sweet. Maybe buy a 308 bolt from Mack Bros and run a reamer in a 22 Nosler? But I’m not seeing those priced as nice

Looks like a nice rifle to me. Hope they can repair their rep with better QC out of the box. Love to have one in 7mm08 but a 6.5 creed would work. Certainly a lot more factory ammo out there for the 6.5.

For 14-1500 it would be hard not to order one. Luckily I could not find one at that price.

They are a very nice rifle. Never shot the one I had. Originally 6.5 PRC but it got sent back due to the obvious feeding issues. Got a 6.5 CM instead but wasn’t in that mood at the time. Shoulda sent the bolt assembly off to have a different handle put on for better clearance. Would have been a stellar handling rifle for me I’m sure. The forward balance felt great offhand!

Same here.

I was able to buy one at that price, but couldn’t find anymore.

I’ll get the rifle next week.

I think a Borden style handle would make that stock a better fit.

Any chance those cheap ones are “seconds”? That’s a BIG discount over MSRP.

About the same as I paid for my M70 EW last year, and aside from a bad striker spring, it’s very nicely done and works perfectly after I swapped that spring out. Good shooter too.

I gave mine a pretty thorough once over at the FFL and couldn’t see anything that would lead me to believe it would be a “Second”

I was a little surprised at the thickness of the barrel.

where is the closest bank of america

Just makes you wonder. Maybe it’s some kind of cashflow tactic.

Remember the big discounts on Mauser M12s? Those were real bargains too.

Nice rifle, but you showed the wrong side😛

Shilen use to be Pac nor before the fire

Very. The M48 greatly resembles the Howa 1500, but is investment cast, not forged like the 1500s. Howa manufactures their stuff in Japan, and they are imported here by Legacy and Weatherby (not sure if the Vanguards come through Legacy or separately), which is why we don’t get as many SS versions as say, Oz.

I pick up the rifle on Friday- I’ll give you a full 360 peep show then. Maybe even with an optic!

There is a semicolon who eloped with a “d” somewhere in Wyoming.

Thanks Robert. Definitely curious on barrel profile - as you said it’s meaty. Did it look like a 3? Or even 4?

3b

Shillen?

Per Nosler it’s a shilen barrel and a #3 contour.

I’ll get some dimensions when I have it in my hands

Thanks Robert.

Exactly^

Great, I have a 300 win nosler 21 and a model 12 307 and I haven't shot either. Honestly the 21 looks like a solid try by people who do t actually shoot. Put a stock on it that allows some cheek weld and an action that doesn't kick cases I to the windage turret and it would be a he'll of a rifle for the cash. Other than the crappy bedding my 21 looks rather well built. I just need to get it to the range but the for keeps getting it moved back in the line. The bedding is an easy fix I just can't get excited about mounting a scope high on a stock that already offers no cheek weld. Listening to offers on a nib 21 in 300 win.

Bb

Stocks are so subjective with regard to how they fit individuals it’s difficult to criticize them on that alone, but crappy bedding has no place on a rifle in that price range. As mentioned, my M70 is very nicely put together, as is my Fieldcraft (MSRP almost a grand less than the M21), and a Howa Alpine that cost me $600, discounted of course. Again, I have to wonder why these new high-end rifles are seemingly being dumped on the market. That’s “honest” wonder, not an attempt to piss in the punch bowl. A dealer I use frequently in AR had a couple listed and had I not already put something else on layaway there I might well have taken the plunge, and at pretty close to full ticket. Maybe Spandex Paul has a point, about Nosler rifles anyway🤔

Took some measurements last night. Had a little sake and whisky so they may be off by a little

1.20 at the recoil lug
6” was .875
12” was .800
At the thread protector/21” was .760

0.76 at 21” is stout.

Thanks for taking the time.

What’s your overall impression?

Seems to be put together nicely. Fit and finish is good. Stock fits me well enough, but could understand how some wouldn’t like it. I expected it to be a little thinner on the barrel, so that was a surprise, but is a non issue to me. Action is slick. Trigger is nice. I like everything about it, but we’ll see how it shoots.

My buddy bought one. That is one hefty #3 barrel. It’s fit and finish looks good. I asked why scope is mounted so high…..bolt handle won’t clear. I hate those stock design and it works (not at all) with the bulky bolt knob. I’ll let you know how it shoots once we go…

Bolt clearance

McBros

Keep us posted and I’ll do same for my buddies. What’s the bell of scope look like once mounted. The talley lw lows wouldn’t give him clearance on a Zeiss conquest