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Posted By: yar Thoughts on CZ 527 Carbine - 11/27/22
I recently purchased a CZ 527 Carbine 7.62x39 . I wanted one of these for a while but never got around to it . The overall build quality of this Mini Mauser is outstanding. I mounted a Leupold 3-9 compact on it . It handles extremely well and I think it gonna make a great Hunting/ utility rifle.
Looking for suggestions on accurate hunting loads advice ?
Accuracy potential?

Thanks in advance.
Sounds like fun!
Posted By: PennDog Re: Thoughts on CZ 527 Carbine - 11/27/22
Yar I have one and haven’t reloaded for it yet but it loves Federal blue box 123 grain sp ammo. Typically keeps three shots around 1/2” - I have a Zastava mini-Mauser that loves this ammo too! The CZ is handy to still hunt with and I’ve killed a couple of bucks and a turkey with it in PA. I think you’ll really like it!

PennDog
Posted By: Dre Re: Thoughts on CZ 527 Carbine - 11/27/22
Love this little gun.
I wish I would have bought 2.
Mine shoots silver bears at moa. Instead of the cz rings, you can use original tikka T3 oem rings to lower your scope.

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Posted By: Jeffrey Re: Thoughts on CZ 527 Carbine - 11/27/22
Mine shoots all the steel cased budget ammo to the same POI a 100 yards. I won’t be reloading this one.
Posted By: yar Re: Thoughts on CZ 527 Carbine - 11/28/22
Thanks for the info. Still hunts is exactly what I Intend to use it for. Perfect little rifle for the task it seems. I came with high scope rings and I changed them out for Med height rings to give me a better cheek weld. The chambering seems perfectly suited to short to medium range shots . I don’t buy many rifles these days in fact I sell most now that I have accumulated over the years but this little carbine has interested me for some time now. Unfortunately CZ discontinued the line before I got around to buying one. Fortunately found this one .
Posted By: yar Re: Thoughts on CZ 527 Carbine - 11/28/22
Seems guys are mounting large scopes to these hence the high rings . Seem to me this defeats the compact carbine purpose . ( to each their own ) I went with med height rings but probably could have gone lower with the compact scope I’m using.
Got a pair of 527’s from my dads estate. 1 is a factory 6.5 grendel that shoots pretty damn well with factory ammo and better with handloads. The other is a .223 model that was Rebarreled by pacnor in 25x45 and it shoots amazing.
Posted By: yar Re: Thoughts on CZ 527 Carbine - 11/28/22
Nice
Hornady 123gr SST. Grandson has taken three bucks with that from his Howa.

IIRC, they used to promote those as especially suitable for shooting steel-case/milsurp ammo. Not as much of that available cheaply any more, but still plenty of choices, for targets and practice of course.

That’s a good score. They’ve been discontinued unfortunately, so prices will continue to rise I expect.
My cz527 is a .223/5.56 and it is awesome. I have a Ruger ranch rifle in 7.62x39 and is both accurate and feeds all ammo well.
Posted By: yar Re: Thoughts on CZ 527 Carbine - 11/28/22
Yeah , seem to me I remember them around 598.00 or something like that. The prices are definitely on the way up . The old line of CZ’s were real world craftsmanship for sure . The new models are nice but seems their made of a more modern process and seemed to not have that old school build. I’m not knocking the new ones I’m sure their great .
I was okay with the change to the new model, until they decided the average gun monkey couldn’t manage the cartridge-swap feature and discontinued it. That leaves them with a funny-looking oddball IMO. Apparently in Yurrup it’s possible to send one in for a factory swap, but so far that’s not being discussed here.

I’m sure other factors are involved in the change; maybe worn-out machinery, a desire to go CNC for everything, or something else. They’ve also discontinued other items like the Kadet 2 .22 conversion for the 75-series pistols. I have one of those and it’s a fine mechanism. Fortunately, I also picked up some spare mags while the gettin’ was good. We all know what an expensive PITA is can be to find obsolete magazines.
Posted By: TRexF16 Re: Thoughts on CZ 527 Carbine - 11/28/22
I recently acquired a custom CZ-527 Carbine that started life as a 7.62x39. But Jim Brockman rebarreled it to 6.5 Grendel for Bill Alexander back in 2002 when the Grendel was a brand-new cartridge. They gave it a real eye-popping custom painted stock and took the rifle to the SHOT and Safari Club shows to help drum up interest in the Grendel.
I love it - the action is very nice as has been said, I love the set trigger, and it's very accurate. I was lucky to find what I think was the second-to-last factory CZ carbine stock sold in the US and bedded that to it to preserve the original custom stock.

Somebody on this thread may be interested in this - I have almost 200 once-fired Norma 7.62x39 cases that are deprimed and polished. I have hesitated to list them for sale because I really wanted to see brass of this quality go to someone with a nice mini bolt action instead of being destined for an AK. I shouldn't care who buys them, but like my avatar says...

Shoot me a PM if interested.

Congratulations on your new rifle yar.

Rex
Posted By: bcp Re: Thoughts on CZ 527 Carbine - 11/28/22
About a year after they came out with that chambering, a guy was carrying one around a gun show, trying to sell it. Said it kicked too hard.

frown

Bruce
Posted By: Jeffrey Re: Thoughts on CZ 527 Carbine - 11/28/22
I run the NEGC peep sight on my carbine with factory front sight.

I have an American in 6.5G that wears a Leupold
M8. 4x.
Originally Posted by yar
Seems guys are mounting large scopes to these hence the high rings . Seem to me this defeats the compact carbine purpose . ( to each their own ) I went with med height rings but probably could have gone lower with the compact scope I’m using.

Or maybe it’s because the bolt lift is kinda high. I think they addressed that somewhat in later models, and Calhoon sells (or sold) replacements that had been modified.
7.62x39 - Lapua 123gr

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Great rifles.

I have a CZ 527 American chambered in 6.5 Grendel. I wish that I had gotten a second chambered in 300 B/O with the synthetic stock and threaded barrel.
Originally Posted by Pappy348
Hornady 123gr SST. Grandson has taken three bucks with that from his Howa.

My stepson killed his first deer with that bullet from my… probably eventually his CZ 527. It performed absolutely perfect at Grendel velocity. Low chest shot at about 25 yards that exited through the leg bone just below where it connects to the chest.
Posted By: Jeffrey Re: Thoughts on CZ 527 Carbine - 11/29/22
Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76
Great rifles.

I have a CZ 527 American chambered in 6.5 Grendel. I wish that I had gotten a second chambered in 300 B/O with the synthetic stock and threaded barrel.

I had this same thought the other day while I was in the shower.
Posted By: TRexF16 Re: Thoughts on CZ 527 Carbine - 11/29/22
Originally Posted by Pappy348
Originally Posted by yar
Seems guys are mounting large scopes to these hence the high rings . Seem to me this defeats the compact carbine purpose . ( to each their own ) I went with med height rings but probably could have gone lower with the compact scope I’m using.

Or maybe it’s because the bolt lift is kinda high. I think they addressed that somewhat in later models, and Calhoun sells (or sold) replacements that had been modified.

I swapped my early, humpy bolt knob to Calhoon for one of his low sculptured, and it helps. I have a VX-3HD 2.5-8 on mine in Leupold medium rings and have about .125 clearance between the bell and the bolt handle. By my math I could switch to Warne mediums and reduce that gap to about .070.
Not sure I am going to, but I think the inability to mount scopes nice and low on these is their greatest fault. Some might not like the safety, but I think I can live with that. Overall, really like the rifle.

Rex
I have 2, 7.62x39 and .223. love them,x39 Winchester silver box or hornaday.
the price of these has skyrocketed. I had one rebarreled last year to 17 fireball. its probably my favorite gun of all time. its seen over 1100 rounds in the first year, has wacked about every type of varmint possible, killed 7 coyotes, (never planned on using it for that) it chokes down those little fireball cases like a fat girl giving a blow job on a first date. yeah they have some quirks, funky safety, bolt lift that might hit the scope if mounted too low. If there were a ready supply of 30 grain bullets and I didn't want to use an AR15 for calling. I would pick up a 7.62x39 gun and make it into a 17 ppc for my main squeeze calling rifle.

the action handles about like a big rimfire. the gun is light, trim and compact. I have been really interested to see how the CZ 600 shortest action model looks like. I have owned a carbine in 223, that gun would put 5 factory rounds into about 5/8" and a kevlar varmint in 223, that gun would shoot .5 moa.
Posted By: TRexF16 Re: Thoughts on CZ 527 Carbine - 11/29/22
Here's some pics of the early Brockman custom 6.5 Grendel I wrote about earlier.
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Not the best pics but you get the idea. It now has the Calhoon lower bolt handle, Leupold VX3HD 2.5-8, and a CZ factory carbine walnut stock.
I reckon this rifle was pretty successful in getting the Grendel on the shooting world's radar back in 2002. When folks ask about it at the range, I tell them, "It's not a 6.5 Grendel, it's the 6.5 Grendel!"

Cheers,
Rex
Posted By: CP Re: Thoughts on CZ 527 Carbine - 11/29/22
I really enjoy shooting my little dandy too…
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I like mine, but wish it had a BDL style bottom.

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My first Grendel was a 527 American. Lovely little rifle, but it was a bit heavy for the cartridge, and not a great shooter. The DMs combined with the CRF were a nuisance, but an Original Bob’s Sled (sent to me on approval by Bob himself, so possibly THE Original) fixed that. When I ran into a Fieldcraft online, the 527 went away. The Howa Mini that eventually replaced it has been one of the easiest to get shooting ever. While it lacks the classic style, it did earn upgrades to stock, magazine, and optics, and like all Howas, the bones are forged steel, and the bolt is a one-piece that takes down with a twist of the wrist. That said, if a 527 fell into my lap at a good price, I’d be very tempted. They are very nice rifles.
Good rifles. I sold mine for several reasons. The safety was backward, the bolt throw hit my thumb on the scope, and I had to use proprietary rings. It was reliable and the magazines were good.
Posted By: MGunns Re: Thoughts on CZ 527 Carbine - 11/30/22
I sure regret selling mine to my buddy. It does fine on deer with any inexpensive soft point.
Originally Posted by Pappy348
The DMs combined with the CRF were a nuisance, but an Original Bob’s Sled (sent to me on approval by Bob himself, so possibly THE Original) fixed that.

What are these Bob's Sled you speak of? smile
Originally Posted by SuperCub
Originally Posted by Pappy348
The DMs combined with the CRF were a nuisance, but an Original Bob’s Sled (sent to me on approval by Bob himself, so possibly THE Original) fixed that.

What are these Bob's Sled you speak of? smile

A loading block that allows single rounds to be fed.

https://originalbobsled.com/
Posted By: yar Re: Thoughts on CZ 527 Carbine - 11/30/22
Was the carbine ever offered in 6.5 ?
Originally Posted by yar
Was the carbine ever offered in 6.5 ?


Unfortunately, no. I was hoping for that, or even better, the Full Stock version. I tried to contact the CZ custom shop at one point about the possibility of doing up a FS in Grendel but never got a response.
Posted By: yar Re: Thoughts on CZ 527 Carbine - 11/30/22
6.5 would have been a nice combo.
Originally Posted by Pappy348
Originally Posted by SuperCub
Originally Posted by Pappy348
The DMs combined with the CRF were a nuisance, but an Original Bob’s Sled (sent to me on approval by Bob himself, so possibly THE Original) fixed that.

What are these Bob's Sled you speak of? smile

A loading block that allows single rounds to be fed.

https://originalbobsled.com/

Thank-you. smile
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