Due to magazine limits what is the best all around bullet for bear elk and deer in the 350???? Any loads that have worked for you would be great thank you

200gr TTSX @ 2850fps seems like a great place to start.

If you can find them, I like the Sierra 225gr BST #2850.

Isn't this bullet a little too long for the 350??? Also what is your load for this kind of velocity

I use the 180 TTSX in my 350 Rem Fotis. Knocks on nearly 2900 with the shorty barrel and shoots great with H4895.

Not sure if the 200 TTSX would be too long but being as they like to jump, I'd be fine loading it to 2.8 and giving it a go.

Well I just traded off my Rem 600 350 mag. I bought it new in around 65-66 but taken a bit of game with it from elk to moose and the only bullets I’d recommend are the Hawk 225-250 grainers. They print 1.5 inches same place either bullet. Blow both shoulders out of a moose. No other bullets have worked so well in this rifle

BTW what are you shooting, barrel length and twist

Rick

Scrounge up some Partitions in 250gr, or best of all, 225gr. The Speer 250 also covers a lot of possibilities. The 200 Hornady will whack deer.
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225 Partition.

I'm running 200TSX with and TAC powder with great results

Thanks for your input

I’ve got the best accuracy with a Speer 200 grain round nose.

This!

Me too. I also like the 225 gr Woodleigh IF you are lucky enough to find some.

No experience with the 350 Rem mag but plenty with the 35 Whelen. I ended up sticking with the Speer 250 grain spitzer. Shoots great, always expands and I never recovered one. That said I also am very fond of the same weight Nosler Partition. Just that so far I can't pick one over the other. Speeds around 2500 fps.

I’m running 225gr nosler partitions over RL-15 in mine, at 2675 fps. It’s a 700 classic bedded into a factory 700 titanium stock. The two black bears and one coyote I’ve shot with it have traveled a total of about 15 yards after impact.

Another vote here for the 225 grain partition. Accurate, dependable and able to get decent velocity since it doesn't eat up quite so much of the available case capacity.

200 grain TTSX is a great .358 bullet.

I use locally made 200gn Hollow points and 56gn of RL10X for a 10 shot average of 2851fps. My rifle is a 1969 made Rem 700BDL with 24" barrel.

I'll try the 200 TTSX hopefully they won't be too long. Should have this on Friday.

I only hunt deer so I run the Speer 180. But I have loaded the Hornady 200 with Re7 and found it shot just as well in my Rem 673. I have a bunch of the Sperrs so I load them.

This is going to be primarily for elk.

I've killed elk, both bulls, with my M7 .350RM using both the 225 Sierra and 225 Nosler Partitions.

Both bullets worked at 2730+ FPS. Prefer the NPs because of the increased BCs although the Sierras were "slightly" more accurate. This issue right now is going to be availability as I've been looking for Nosler's, Sierra's and Barnes 200 grns for a while now.

What were your loads?

I ran 2 bullets in mine for hunting:

225 Sierra for deer
225 Partition for an Elk load

158 RP HP/SP were hell on milk jugs at 200 yds but fell out.

In a 35, driving the 225s to around 2700, I feel that is the best balance of usable trajectory, with great bullet construction, BC/SD.

I think the 200 is a better bullet in the 338/08 or a 338-06 or bigger capacity for deer. BC/SD is the reason.....

IMR4320, 60.7 grns, over FED215. Pretty much right out of the Nosler manual. My M7 is from the custom shop with a 20" barrel.

For deer lately I've been loading Hornady 200SP Interlocks, mostly because I can get them, and they shoot well. I'm working new loads now using TAC trying to get a little more MV, plus IMR4320 has gone extinct and I've only got about 3/4s of a lb left.

The Sierra 225 is my favorite. I run it about 2600fps. I’ve killed 6 elk with that bullet, 2 out of a Whelen. 5 of the elk were drt, one went 10 feet. Also killed a handful of deer with it, one of those made 2 bounds. The rest hit the dirt.
I limit my range to 350 yds with this combo. Drops like a cannon ball after that.

If it’s still made, the Speer 220 is another great bullet out of the 350.

Thanks fellas.

Fotis;
Good morning to you sir, I hope the day in Cheyenne is behaving for you and you're all well.

With the understanding that none of this is my personal experience with the bullets, I'll offer what I've been told.

Last year a friend asked that I give him a hand getting a .350 Rem Mag built on a SS 700 LA as his work as a geologist often has him out and about without cell service.

After a couple smiths who'd never done one, I called Greg up at Corlane Sports in Dawson Creek, BC and chose them for the task within a couple minutes talking with him.

He's part owner of the place and I want to say they've got 4 or 5 smiths working there so do a fairly good business working on mostly rifles.

Greg said that he used a .350 Rem Mag when guiding up there and had built a few for other guides as well. Usually they were building them on Tikka T3 actions so then they didn't have the short action magazine restrictions.

When we talked about bullets, he said they've had very good results with the 225gr TSX on everything up north - moose, elk, bison and though there's no season now - grizzly when we still had a season - as well as being not the worst choice for deer or sheep. He also had very good things to say about the 200gr TSX.

When he agreed to do the rebarrel job I was looking to get done, he said he'd have to change out the factory detachable box mag system because they just didn't have luck making them feed 100%.

They ended up putting in a Quick Klip system for buddy - which Greg said they've had very good success with - and supplied a pair of magazines which they tested to ensure feeding. Buddy reports they both feed 100%.

While buddy has found 250gr Partitions, 200gr and 250gr TSX and loads that shoot them, he didn't connect with anything last season so no bullet testing on game with his rifle so far.

Hopefully that's useful for you or someone out there.

Good luck with your hunt whichever bullet you end up using and all the best.

Dwayne

For those of you guys that are using the 200 grain TTSX is a doable at 2.8 in overall length. Is there enough shank to seat into place. Are you using a crimp?Thank you

I’m a huge Barnes fan, but with your velocities I’d look very seriously at the Hornady 250 grain Spire Point! They’re great bullets at your velocities and are usually very accurate! memtb

At 2.8" overall length??

That TTSX 200 will be longer than a cup/core being copper.......so your bullet length will be longer than say a 200 SP. I think it will have plenty to have neck tension.

Curious what ranges will you be typically shooting on game?

Under 300 for elk

250gr Speer's in my 35W for bears and moose out to 250ish.

Definitely capable to 300y, 200 gr is the lightest I would run personally in a 35. Not run ballistics to see drop, retained energy of 200 vs 225s, but would be interesting. Given the caliber, I would suspect it will open fine to that range, being a mono.

Yes, yes and no. I am using it in rem custom shop KS model 7 with TAC.

2842 fps out of a 20” barrel.

Edit: TSX not TTSX

350 Rem Mag
Sierra 225 SBT's
IMR 4895 (58-59gr)
Fed 215

seated for the appropriate mag box(s)
velocities per Bbl length(s)

700 BDL
700 Classic
Seven KS
Seven AWR
660
XP-100R

This is my M-10, 98 Mauser in 350 RM. I built it with a 1-14 twist 26" Shaw barrel. Cut a big leaf maple stock, rear is a similar to a Richards dual grip, pistol grip forward is a Mauser cut with Madagascar Ebony tip, recoil bolt plugs and cap, stained with steel wool soaked four days in vinegar acid wash. 100% glass bedded action and bottom metal w free floated barrel. The maple is a bit denser and heavier than walnut, on purpose.

I use the 200 Rem RN and 200 RCBS hard cast for fun and deer. The 225s for more serious work. Mostly I use a fairly stout load of H-4350 and load it like my 35 Whelen in a M-700, the reason for the dual grip and the thick recoil pad. I can if necessary use the 250s with the long action. This rifle will shoot 1/2" groups with the 200 grain bullet combinations,

This is the best load I had today. Theoretically this is one grain under max ..... max being 64 grains of tac. Velocity is way up there and I can tell you it is absolutely maximum load. It did show some slight ejector mark but she scooting.



All else being equal I wish you was a hundred feet per second less with the same accuracy I just don't like being close to Max

How bad were the groups that went 100fps slower?

62 grain of Tac (all else the same) did 2960 and 1.2"/100 yards.

You gonna try the 225 TSX next?

Can not find any... (either way it will not work in a 2.8" mag) .or 200 TSX which I think is optimal due to length. Barnes does not list it anymore.

Will be trying H4895 and Win 748 with the 200 TTSX though.

Nice speeds and accuracy. That velocity/pressure should drop when temps fall during hunting season. I would be very happy with that load and would not go up any at all for sure.

Is that new brass? Did you shoot more than 1 group with the load that gave you 1.2 ? You might squeak a tad more accuracy with partial sized brass, but I would double and triple check for feeding if you do, for hunting. I would say anything MOA or under is good in your set up, and anything under is a bonus. I had a Hart 338/06 that shot 1/2" all day.........but what is really key is that your rifle is consistent, on your first cold bore shot for hunting, IMHO.

Did you float the barrel or do anything to your rifle, or is it all OEM? I'd suspect floated would give you the most consistent first shot POI and likely groups as well.

Congrats on finding an accurate load with great speeds.

To answer your questions.

The loads are based on onced fired factory brass (200 gr Core loct) . I shot 3 shot groups with the loads. It was about 70* at the range yesterday.

The gun was heavily customized by the previous owner through Hill Country rifles. Their full accuracy package, ceracoat, new bottom metal etc.....Everything done to it.

Dang, Barnes is not listing the .358 200 gr TSX????

Not on their website no. I see 180 and 225 only in tsx flavor

If you’re seeing ejector marks, you’re well above max…

I guess the tip can be ground down with no adverse affect to performance? Maybe take a file to it?

I was reading CZ550's most recent blog post (aka Bob Mitchell) about the .350 Remington Magnum a couple of days ago & he used this combination as well:

https://bigborefan.wordpress.com/20...-that-punch-above-their-weight-class-p4/

Interesting article!

Absolutely, I know this hence the additional range time planned ahead.

I don't think I can roll with that load. I am way too anal. I can not live with the ejector marks. That is telling me danger zone. Not good for the rifle, brass or me. Hopefully I can hit another node in the 59.5 to 61.5 of TAC. If not Win 748 and H4895 are next.

Yeah. That was a good one.

I would think the Whelen and 350 are ballistic twins, and very similar capacity?

Fotis, nice set up. Yes, I know you are not as hot as the South, I did look up temps your way. During hunting season if you see a drop in 30-40 degrees or more, it might affect performance. Not sure about the powders you are using, whether they are temp sensitive. I would say 2800-2900 is a good place to be based on some calculations I ran. You are in good shape no doubt for whatever you run into.

Honestly... 2800 fps and MOA would be cartwheel time!

225 over 59 gr of Varget in my Ruger M77 groups under MOA. Only game I've taken was an antlerless moose that dropped at the shot.

I am getting 2842 FPS with 62 grs of TAC. My custom shop KS Model 7 gives me 3/4" at 100 yards. 60 grs was 1.5" 61 grs was about the same. 62 grs was the seet spot and never tried more. That gun is stupid light and range time is a chore.

I never shot it past 200 yards but planning on shooting it to 300 and maybe 400 just to vheck the ballistic app.

I plan on taking it with me on an elk hunt in early December along with my .30-06

Which bullet are we talking about?

200 TSX .350 Rem Mag from a 350 pound black bear I shot. I was in a treestand. Bullet went into the neck and and broke the joint on the opposite leg. Found just under the hide. Crazy penetration.

62grs TAC. 2842 FPS With no pressure signs. 20” barrel. Quick Load indicates it is way over pressure. As stated, Barnes goes to 64 grs.

I have over 100 TSX left but if I couldn’t find any I would buy the TTSX and file down the tip. Should work fine. Worth trying.

Man, that’ll do it! Nice recovery.

Got an email from Barnes. They will be making a bunch of the 200 TSX soon again.

I got reminders no many seller's websites out.

Excellant!

I sent them an Email about 5 moths ago asking IF the 200TSX was discontinued as it no longer appeared on their site and a rep told me then that they had no plans of getting rid of them. With Nosler and Sierra not producing their 225s the 200TSX is about the only good elk bullet available for guys with a 2.8" mag box.

That 200 TTSX is a ripper in a Whelen..

Works well in mine also Scott.

61 gr of TAC 2850 fps and .69"

Went out again yesterday with somewhat reduced loads from last time.

I think I got it.

200 TSX or do you mean 200 TTSX?

200 tsx John. They should start production again in September or sometime. The TTSX can be found all over the place right now

The barnes 200 ttsx is the cats "butt" in my 358 norma, 358 win, and now the 358 wsm. I have went lighter too with Barnes and they are a hammer too, but i think the 200
s fly just a bit better.

Midway just got them in.. 200 TSX, so I've got a couple boxes inbound.

I was going to order some but the TTSX shot so well.

Really enjoying this post , as I will be in the process of some load development for my 660 Rem. Sold this to a friend about 5 years ago, and was able to get it back from him recently. I believe he got a case of "scope eye" from it ! I remember when I shot it years ago, had a few loads that shot reasonably well , but not sure what they were, so starting over. I am pretty sure one was the Nosler custom ammo load , with the 225 grain bullet . I have plenty of brass , and a wide arrange of bullets. I am thinking the 150 grain bullets might be good for the local whitetails around here, maybe at around 2800-2900 ? Will also be after black bear soon, and had heard good from a friend of mine who had good luck with the 200 grain RN Hornady, in a 358 Win . Bear hunt will be from a stand, average shots no more than 75 yds . Really need to buy some Barnes bullets and give them a try too, great accuracy with them in some other calibers .

I suggest using a mouth expander die, like the Lee Universal when seating the flat base Barnes. It was suggested to me, and has helped with concentricity. It doesn’t take much to open the mouth and hold the bullet.

Have been running 250gr speer's out of the 600 at around 2465fps. While it shoots, I'm not going to lie, that's a little bit much for me. Will probly back it down to 200gr or 225's an see if it is a lil more enjoyable to shoot

Pretty happy with the way the 150's shot. I guess they were originally for the Rem 35 , probably hard to find now.

I use the 180 gr Speer in my XP-100 pistol. It was hell on whitetail last year and unless I find something that shoots better I will use it again this year. I’ve got some 200 gr Hornady that I want to play with.

I just loaded and shot some 180 Speers ,using Imr 4320 - under an inch 3 shot at 100 . Im done load development, going with that one .

Whats your velocity?

Teeder, not chronographed, but guessing about 2650-2700 with the 20 “ barrel.

Northeast Whitetail load 180 Speer

That’ll work.

DF