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Posted By: jpr9954 338-06 - 01/27/08
I came across a Ruger M77 in 338-06 today at a local gun shop. It was the earlier tang safety model. It also had a Leupold FX-II or VX-II scope on it. It looked in very good shape and it was an estate purchase. I've been reading about this round and like what I've read.

The price is in the $550 range. Fair price?

My alternative is to find a decent 30-06 and have it rebarreled but that probably would cost more.

Thanks for the help and advice.

John
Posted By: LateBloomer Re: 338-06 - 01/27/08
Buy it now!!!

I've been researching this whole thing for the past week or so as I really wanted a 338-06...I looked into many ways of getting it done but was held back by cost...

You found the greatest deal by having one already barreled for a great price...If its in good shape my recommendation is to grab it while you can...

In my search I ran across a $400 Ruger 338WM unfired, so I grabbed it instead because of my budget limitations...

Good luck!
Posted By: supercrewd Re: 338-06 - 01/27/08
Where was that? wink
Posted By: Steelhead Re: 338-06 - 01/27/08
If it was put together in some dudes basement with a dremel it might not be worth it.
Posted By: jpr9954 Re: 338-06 - 01/27/08
Originally Posted by Steelhead
If it was put together in some dudes basement with a dremel it might not be worth it.


I need to reexamine it but I am pretty sure it was a custom job.

John
Posted By: coyo Re: 338-06 - 01/27/08
I shipped a ruger 77 off to have rebored to a .358 and the said no can do,I told them to rebore to a 338 and they said no can do,they said I had to have so much meat in the wall of the barrel and if they rebored to either diameter I would not have enuff wall thickness to be safe and they refused to bore the 77,I dont know if this does you any justice,just food for thought I guess...............
Posted By: jpr9954 Re: 338-06 - 01/27/08
Originally Posted by coyo
I shipped a ruger 77 off to have rebored to a .358 and the said no can do,I told them to rebore to a 338 and they said no can do,they said I had to have so much meat in the wall of the barrel and if they rebored to either diameter I would not have enuff wall thickness to be safe and they refused to bore the 77,I dont know if this does you any justice,just food for thought I guess...............


As I understand what you are saying, I should check to make sure it isn't the "original" barrel on the rifle and is a replacement barrel instead. Is this correct?

John
Posted By: coyo Re: 338-06 - 01/27/08
That is sure what I would do,I believe this shop told me that if you would not end up with at least .065 {65 thousands} of meat around the bore they would not touch it,the rifle I sent up was a 308 Winchester,out side of the difference between the chamberings,I would surley think the barrels should be about the same,but as far as the 338-06 goes,that a heck of a rifle,Ive got one and I just love it...........
Posted By: 338Federal Re: 338-06 - 01/28/08
Get that gun. You'll be happy.
Posted By: Hunterbug Re: 338-06 - 01/28/08
Grab it! Like Latebloomer I wanted a 338-06 but I found a Ruger 77 Tang safety with a synthetic stock in 338 Win Mag that looked almost brand new for $325. Now I just can't justify the 338-06 when I oculd just download the 338 Win Mag instead.
Posted By: ColdBore Re: 338-06 - 01/28/08
Without knowing which scope is on it, we're just guessing. But figuring that just about any Leupold is at least $200, you are, at most, into the rifle for $350, and probably quite a bit less.

The older tang safety Rugers are sweet, and the 338-06 is an awesome round.

If it was me, my post would've started with "I just bought this rifle...." laugh
Posted By: jpr9954 Re: 338-06 - 01/29/08
Originally Posted by ColdBore


If it was me, my post would've started with "I just bought this rifle...." laugh


That very well may be what I am writing tomorrow! The shop is in an adjacent town and I just happen to have business there in the morning. The shop is on the way out of town so it would be criminal to not check it out again. wink

John
Posted By: jpr9954 Re: 338-06 - 01/29/08
Update on the Ruger 338-06.

I went back to the shop today, examined it, checked the wall thickness of the barrel, etc. and decided to buy it. The scope was a Leupold VX-II 2-7 power with the gold rings intact, the wood was in excellent shape, the bore shined when I looked down it, the trigger was very nice, etc. Did all the NICS paperwork and was preparing to pay when one of the co-owner's of the shop brought out some Weatherby 338-06 A-Squared ammo. It is my understanding that the 338-06 A-Squared is the new name for the wildcat 338-06.

It chambered just fine but the bolt would NOT close. The barrel is not marked 338-06 but that was how it was sold to the shop by a dealer in PA. It does appear to be a 338 bore. Needless to say, I cancelled the transaction until they had the rifle checked out. I don't know if it has headspace problems or is actually chambered for another round. They are having a local gunsmith check it out and will get back to me on it. I'll post an update when I find out more.

John
Posted By: Teeder Re: 338-06 - 01/29/08
Interesting!
You may have to load for it, which, IMO is better anyway.
I hope it works out!
Posted By: 47stalker Re: 338-06 - 01/29/08
Originally Posted by jpr9954
It chambered just fine but the bolt would NOT close. The barrel is not marked 338-06 but that was how it was sold to the shop by a dealer in PA. It does appear to be a 338 bore. Needless to say, I cancelled the transaction until they had the rifle checked out. I don't know if it has headspace problems or is actually chambered for another round. They are having a local gunsmith check it out and will get back to me on it. I'll post an update when I find out more.

John


Just get yourself a NIB 338Win Mag Ruger & never look back.

I used to dream about a 338-06. These days I'm a realist, the fifty year old 338Win Mag is a far superior round!

It's starting loads give warm 338-06 performance, & it can be stoked up if needed. It comes in the same action length & wears that tough looking belt(grin).


340
Posted By: SKane Re: 338-06 - 01/29/08
I concur.
I just reasoned myself out of the 338-06 in the classifieds cuz I had a Whelen and a 338. Though, it's still a really cool cartridge.
Posted By: downwindtracker2 Re: 338-06 - 01/30/08
I have both a 338-06 and a 338WM.My 338-06 225 load goes 2650,my 338WM load does 2775,I use the same 180 30-06 hold over.It seems to me they are all about the same. The 338WM is the lightest,so it's my favourite.
Posted By: kevinh1157 Re: 338-06 - 01/30/08
Ruger Tang Safety in 338/06 $200
Leopold VX II $200
Together = Priceless

Scoop the bitch.
Posted By: lodgepole Re: 338-06 - 01/30/08
Originally Posted by jpr9954
I came across a Ruger M77 in 338-06 today at a local gun shop. It was the earlier tang safety model. It also had a Leupold FX-II or VX-II scope on it. It looked in very good shape and it was an estate purchase. I've been reading about this round and like what I've read.

The price is in the $550 range. Fair price?

My alternative is to find a decent 30-06 and have it rebarreled but that probably would cost more.

Thanks for the help and advice.

John


You wouldnt have seen that rifle on the rack if I had walked into that shop 10 minutes ahead of you.
Posted By: LateBloomer Re: 338-06 - 01/31/08
Originally Posted by Hunterbug
Grab it! Like Latebloomer I wanted a 338-06 but I found a Ruger 77 Tang safety with a synthetic stock in 338 Win Mag that looked almost brand new for $325. Now I just can't justify the 338-06 when I oculd just download the 338 Win Mag instead.


Hunterbug,...that's a real good find, congrats! grin
Posted By: Jeff_O Re: 338-06 - 01/31/08
How standardized is/was 338/06 before A-Square made it "honest"? Could have been cut with a reamer that was a little out of spec, for what the spec is now.

When I sent off my Model 7 for a rebarrel I was torn between 338/08 or .358 Win. I heard that the 338/08 was about to be legitimized by someone. I was worried that my chamber would end up out of spec for the "official" spec. I went .358 and have been very happy with it.

Could be something like that.

-jeff
Posted By: 8mmwapiti Re: 338-06 - 01/31/08
Could it be .333 instead of .338

Or 8mm .323?????????????
Posted By: jpr9954 Re: 338-06 - 01/31/08
Without having talked to the gunsmith who is supposed to examine this rifle, I think I may have found the issue. Looking up the 338-06 and 338-06 A-Square in The Handloader's Manual of Cartridge Conversions, I see that the overall length is just a bit longer in the A-Square version. I'm guessing this was rebarreled into 338-06 long before A-Square "standardized" the 338-06 to SAAMI specs.

Someone made the suggestion, either here or on a handloader's forum, that if I get it, I should do a chamber cast and I agree 100%. If I am smart about this, I can use it to lower the purchase price!

John
Posted By: taz4570 Re: 338-06 - 02/01/08
Better yet, just cut a new Improved chamber. You can buy the reamer from Brownells or Midway, or take it to good smith and let him have all of the fun. That way you will have a chamber of known dimensions that can still shoot factory ammo or handloads with standard 338-06, 06, or better yet, necked down 35 Whelen cases. I necked up 06 cases and rediscovered that they make into very short cases for the 338-06. They still work well in my T/C Encore. We'll see how well they work in the rifle Mike is sending my way.
Posted By: Teeder Re: 338-06 - 02/01/08
+1 on the necked down Whelen brass.
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