Red neck.
have you handeld a new model 70 yet ?
Yep. A couple, in fact.
I have a pre 64 and 2 classics.
Then you have three excellent rifles..
I had no complaints about the trigger, except that after i learned to tune them myself, i was a bit pissed I had paid someone else to do it in the past.
They can be 'adjusted' by the owner.. But a true tigger job needs to be done by a pro - and you WILL notice the difference..
But My impession of the new trigger from having dry fired mabye 5 of them is quite good.
And these were out of the box, I think they are adjustable.
They feel ok. On average, probably a lot better than the pre-FNs and they are adjustable.. However, it's a closed, sealed unit. When (not if) something goes wrong, it's a trip back to the service center for repair/replacement.. According to the article, there's 12 parts to this new trigger, whereas the original has 7 (trigger, pin, spring, 3 nuts, post) and is open for cleaning, lubrication, inspection, etc... What happens to this new and improved closed unit when you're hunting in dusty, dirty conditions and grit gets in that trigger group? What happens when your hunt starts out in cold rain and it turns to freezing rain and it gets in that trigger? You're DONE.. With the old unit, the owner can disassemble the parts, clean and lube and reinstall in minutes..
Leave it to Browning to turn a simple, outstanding unit into a much more complicated, user-unfriendly item that, when it goes south, will require a factory fix.. This whole thing might have been suggested by lawyers and bean counters; surely not by hunters and shooters..
Not a thing wrong with a sako 85 either.
I have seen a couple with real nice looking wood. and the ballance is terific.
But all the new model 70s I have seen have been featherweights in either 30,06 or .270.
I want to handle a short action. a .308 in either the fetherweight or the new coyote light.
...tj3006
JMHO, but the changes should have been dedicated to quality barrels instead of messing with the trigger. To date, in the local store anyway, sales of the 'new' M70 have not occured and this is a place that sells hundreds of guns/month.. Those of us most familiar with the m70 concept are not fooled by the invention of this new trigger.. But it's very early in the production and sales.. Time will tell if the rifle becomes accepted.. It will also tell if this new trigger will actually stand up to rugged hunting conditions.. As far as that goes, I'm holding my breath..
I'm hoping an aftermarket will develop for fitting a different trigger to the new FN M70 that will allow the owner to get back to a more simple, user friendly design..
Added: Did you happen to read the article in Amer. Rifleman on the new M70? Didja happen to note the average
groups they were getting? Over 2.25"!!! Maybe they just got a lemon.. But if I were the dudes making these at FN I would have been horrified at those results.. You think, after reading that article by all the members of the NRA, that hunters are going to run out and buy a rifle that may (operative word there) give them THAT kind of accuracy?? That's fine if you're hunting buffalo at 50 yards but if you're having to take a shot at a deer at 300 with a crummy barrel evidenced on that test rifle, well, good luck.. Most guys I know who have a rifle that shoots anything wider than a 1" group at 100 yards either limit their shots to 100 yards or less, trade the rifle for something better or rebarrel in order to have a bullet go where it's supposed to..