Why no or little mention of Styer rifles here. What are the pro's and con's of these rifles. How do they compare to the sako's, tikka's, Abolts,or remchester's???

Never heard of them.....

because they cost a zillion dollars and are rare in the states.

-Matt

and deys butt ugly, Europeans have different tastes than us rednecks.

Beauty is in the I of the beholder.
I think it has a lot to do with their strange looking twisted barrels and their cost.

They might be ugly to most but I happen to love the way they feel and did I mention they will shoot like no other factory rifle made IMHO. I have three that shoot sub moa and know several people that own one as well and they all say the same thing as me. As a matter of fact if the price on them had not sky rocketed I would probably own one or two more. The rednecks here in SE Tennessee will buy them as fast as you can get them especially for the same price as a Remington, Ruger, Tikka or Browning!

Lot of Rednecks in Alabama own them as well and love them. Great rifles hard to get a hold of nowadays.

DM on all of them, yes?

How many ya want. CDNN has a bunch, in any caliber, all the time. If they sold all that well, CDNN wouldn't have 'em. They have mostly discontinued and overruns.

I suspect it's because one seldom finds an outlet that has any in stock. 1Minute

what is the FK are you guys taking about price?
you buy a remington, pull the barrel and rebarrel it, true up the action, flute the bolt, refinish the thing then drop it into a mcmillan stock and scream about it shooting 1/2" groups.
i buy a steyr scope it and shoot half inch groups.
look at gunbroker, gunsamerica, auction arms and youll find one cheap but you have to stay on top of it.

S......St............Who????

Used police SSGs sell well around here in Kentucky, but you never, ever see a sporter on the racks in the Kentucky shops. When the Scout rifle was introduced, there was one shop that had a couple, they took so long to sell that he refused to restock them, let alone any other models, including the SSGs.
Price point sells, and Steyr was "off" on that point.

Few more points.

Steyr abandoned the fine Mannlicher rifles which made their name here and elsewhere. As winchester found with their dumping of the pre-64 Model 70, you cannot hold your customer base by ignoring what they want.

The distributorship has changed so often -- since the Stoeger day-- that it has ben hard year to year to even locate their US-based firm. You cannnot make a respectable dent in a foreign market w/o constant presence and consistent hard work to sustain contacts, make right any scew-ups etc...

Ringworm is more right about the cost issue than he stated cuz an out of the box Steyr on the used market is going to bring back a helluva lot more of its original cost than the high $ custom Rem 700 ever will. (Even if their bolt handles stay on.)

1B

I know I snagged a Forester in 7mm-08 from them. Not the same as finding them in any gunstore. Dealer near my house has one in 7 Rem mag in the Camo stock and I was startled to find them there.

+1

i bought 2 of the sbs when they came out in the 90s a 25-06 and a 376 steyr. i could never get either to shoot well for me. i tried factory ammo and reloads. for what they sell for id rather go with a remington or ruger.

I first found out about the Steyr's while working in a friends very large gun store for about three years on and off when he needed extra help. When we first got the Steyr Prohunters in stock a lot of people held them but would not buy them because most had never heard of them. The price at that time for a blued Prohunter was $495.00 IIRC which was a lot less than the Sako's, Remingtons, Brownings,Weatherby's and Rugers. I had a Browning Stainless Stalker in a .308 and decided I wanted to try the Prohunter so I traded for the Steyr and put a Leupold VXIII 4.5-14 on it. The first trip to the range convinced me that the Steyr's was a steal for $500 and was in a league by itself for a production rifle. I used 150gr Hornady Light Mag. ammo and once on paper the first three shots were 3/4", I sighted in 1 1/2" high at 100yds and then shot it at 200yds the first shot had center punched the orange dot and the next two put my 3 shots at just under a inch. I then took it back to the gun store with the targets to show everyone. I would usually take my gun into the store on days I worked so when a customer would ask what is the most accurate gun you have in here I would show them my targets and the gun. The Steyr's sold like hot cakes after that and several of the employees bought one as well. I never had a customer come back and say they didn't like it or it wouldn't shoot, in fact most came back in and thanked me and said you were right I will never get rid of that gun it shoots way better than I can. About three years later the Steyr's importer changed and they became a little harder to get plus the import tax on firearms went out the roof and the Prohunters that we bought for $500 went to $800.

I'm more than happy with my Model M Professional in .270W. Never owned a more accurate rifle. Doubt I ever will.

My Mannlicher Schoenauer 1956 MC in .30-06 is a true work of art that also performs very well for a 20" tube and full wood.

Their new safe to whatever system is Gay!!!!They are the same as any Rifle now a day.Made as cheap as possible .They did not used to be that way.I do not know how the new ones shoot as to me they are butt ugly.I will keep my 1952 M&S 30-06 .Those were quality Rifles.

The Mannlicher-Schoenauer was indeed a work of art. When Steyr did a cost accounting of the production they found they were loosing almost $2500 on each one. I have 2 Mannlichers and they shoot 1-1.5 MOA and they are so slick to handle they are a joy.
The SBS series is very accurate but expensive now for what it is. I have 3 of them including a 376 Steyr and a 308. All are very accurate and pleasant to shoot. I traded a Tikka for the 308 and a CZ for a 6.5x55. CDNN is definitely the place to get them if they happen to have them. If you need parts it might be a chore.
I like them but I like a lot of rifles-maybe not the A-Bolts.

in 1972 a 61MCA SM cost $349 a MKV weatherby DLX cost $350 and a Win M70 cost $139.
Now a Used MCA made in that era cost $1400 a used weatherby $1400 and a used M70 cost $400.
You tell me were the value is.
I buy steyr prohunters everytime i can catch one for $600 or less. I have probably owned 3 dozen +.
My grab and go is a 20" lightweight 308 that shoots .443" 5 shot groups WITHOUT CLEANING between shots and WITHOUT COOLING between shots with softpoints.

Clean a rifle?

I meant that in jest and them I remembered an article in Rifle a year or so ago about pressures. The author found that the first shot after cleaning might have a huge pressure spike due to lack of copper"lube" in the bore. Did you ever notice how you can go blithely along never having trouble until someone tells you something can happen you never suspected? Well,the very next time I cleaned my 270 and took it to the range the first shot resulted in a VERY HEAVY bolt lift. Never happened before-factory ammo.
Food for thought.

New Ruger MKII and Hawkeye's go for about 550 here. Can't see 495 being "alot less" than that.

From what I've read, thier safties are beyond reproach.

R.

I have had a number of styers, and they are a great value. The reason CDNN bought what they did is the Styer and the importer got crossways and parted ways. So they bought what the imported had. As for having alot, or all different cal. that is not right. I have a good friend that buys for CDNN and he sent me the list right after they got the rifles. I bought 2 308 heavy 20in barrels, 376, and a 9.3x62. Only have the 9.3 now.( I'm a gun trading feind). They only have a fraction of what they had bought. They still have some good cal, but the really cool steyr's config's have already snapped up.

As for best out of the box, I'd say steyrs are 2nd or 3rd. Blasers are #1 bar none, followed by sauer and styer IMOP.

Ed

Not sure about expensive, they were originally but I got my Prohunter for $525 NIB I'm guessing because it is in 6.5X57 a rather odd caliber for the US. Great trigger, best saftey I have used, and yes it shoots under 1/2" out of the box. In fact the worst load I have ever shot with it was 1 1/2" for 5 at 100 yards. Ugly, perhaps but I know exactley were the bullet will strike, that to me is worth a whole bunch. This Steyr will be one of my "keepers".

My neck is pretty red, and I love European firearms. At nearly any time, a Blaser R-93 Professional or Sako Finnlite can be found in the gun rack on my 4 wheeler.

As far as Steyrs go, they are not the best looking firearm in my opinion either.

They have all of these in stock, and I assume more than 1 of each.


Steyr ProHunter 243 23.6" Barrel Blue with Synthetic Stock

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Steyr ProHunter 243 23.6" Barrel Stainless with Synthetic Stock

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Steyr ProHunter 25-06 23.6" Barrel Blue with Synthetic Stock

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Steyr ProHunter 25-06 23.6" Barrel Stainless with Synthetic Stock

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Steyr ProHunter 270 23.6" Barrel Stainless with Synthetic Stock



Steyr ProHunter 30-06 23.6" Barrel Blue with Synthetic Stock

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Steyr ProHunter 30-06 23.6" Barrel Stainless with Synthetic Stock

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Steyr ProHunter 7mmRemMag 25.6" Barrel Blue with Synthetic Stock

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Steyr ProHunter 7mmRemMag 25.6" Barrel Stainless with Synthetic Stock

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Steyr ProHunter Mountain 243 20" Barrel Blue with Synthetic Stock

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Steyr ProHunter Mountain 243 20" Barrel Stainless with Synthetic Stock

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Steyr ProHunter Mountain 25-06 20" Barrel Blue with Synthetic Stock

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Steyr ProHunter Mountain 25-06 20" Barrel Stainless with Synthetic Stock

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Steyr ProHunter Mountain 270 20" Barrel Blue with Synthetic Stock

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Steyr ProHunter Mountain 270 20" Barrel Stainless with Synthetic Stock

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Steyr ProHunter Mountain 30-06 20" Barrel Blue with Synthetic Stock

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Steyr ProHunter Mountain 30-06 20" Barrel Stainless with Synthetic Stock

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Steyr ProHunter Mountain 7mm-08 20" Barrel Blue with Synthetic Stock

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Steyr ProHunter Mountain Camo 270 20" Barrel Stainless with Realtree Synthetic Stock

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Steyr Ultra Light 222 19" Fluted Barrel Blue with Walnut Stock

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Steyr Ultra Light 223 19" Fluted Barrel Blue with Walnut Stock

I'll never forgive them for first uglying up and then discontinuing the little Mannlicher carbine....one of the coolest rifles ever (but no longer) made.

half minute groups ain't all that special any more, and a rifle doesn't have to look like a piece of plumbing equipment or cost well into four figures to do it.

Bud's gets them in spurts, they sell out quickly. I have a 7-08 20" barrel mannlicher stocked one I got this year. Love it.

Up until 2 years ago you could buy them at Wal-Mart. You went online and they had a catalog. You printed out the code and took it into wal-mart and they would order it. I got one like that, cost $1895 new.

It's hard to find the mannlicher stock ones but they are leaps and bounds ahead of the Rugers and CZ's which are about the only ones you find in the states anymore.

Never owned one of their regular style rifles.

They don't cost a gazillion dollars. No more than a good quality bolt action.

Cabelas gun library normally has a good stock of older MS's in stock at reasonable prices (compared to most of their stock) and I have gotten 2 from them.

One I picked up earlier this year looks just like this one.

I think Steyr ran into problems for a short while folling the start of the Iraq war. I think for a short period they were banned from importation to the US because they were selling to Iran. I could be wrong but I want to say that's what I had read.

Looking at my Steyr Prohunter, I'd say its the equal of my Tikka T3 in performance and ugly, lots better than my A-Bolt (before the A-Bolt was modified) in performance, and way better than the compo-stock remchesters I see around (don't have any.)

I can't really comment on how a wood stocked, blued Steyr would compare. They are IMO fine looking, but their list prices start at $2799 ($2999 for a full stock) and go way up from there. I doubt they'd be any better in use than a SAKO 85 Hunter, but there's not a lot of dealers around, and I'm not going to make a special trip on the off chance that they'll discount one I can't do without.

UGLY????

That agrees with my recollection. The sales to Iran and use of the arms against U.S troops were never proved, but the controversy hurt Steyr's sales here. And I'm speculating that situation might have been part of WM's decision to drop Steyr.

If that's list then they come off a good bit. As mentioned I paid $1895 for a full stock and have seen other regular stocked ones for $1800-$2000 new.

nice piece of wood....before they carved on it

Very nice!

Retrieverman, what model is that? Looks like a cross between a scout and a prohunter??

I've only seen two. One day another forum poster brought one by the range. It was a nice little thing in 308 with a synthetic stock, detachable mag and the stock held another mag. I looked it over and shot it a couple of rounds. I thought quite highly of it, but they are just too expensive.

They look horrible. Literally.

Amazing how steyr got accused of something and people were ready to throw them to the wolves. I didnt see any GE products burning on the sidewalks but its common knowledge that GE has been in bed w/ iran.
New York's pension funds own nearly $1 billion worth of stock in these Halliburton, Conoco-Phillips and General Electric, which have operations in Iran and Syria.
NBC Universal is part of the GE empire, does anyone boycott NBC?

Coca-Cola markets its products in both Iran and Sudan, skirting U.S. sanctions policies.
How many of those AK's are made by steyr?



steyrs problems have always been one of distribution and lack of knowledge when it comes to the maerican market.

they have always, since stoger, used only small distributors that couldnt afford to pay for and stock enough rifles to be able to profit. Until steyr gets in bed w/ a big house the way tikka and sako have they will keep hitting the same wall.
As well how many ads in gun mags have you ever seen for steyr rifles?
Americans buy what they see advertised. rifle companies like kimber pay millions of dollars every year to buy the back full page of G&A. Those dollars are spent by steyr to produce quality rifles.
Steyrs are not expensive. they are less than Synthetic Sako 75 85's. They are cheaper than Montanas. those of us who have owned, shot and hunted with them rarely own just one.
the safety is second to none. the accuracy is amazing and the stock, while unconventional, may be the best recoil reducing design ever.
owners of the 7 pound 376 steyr will attest to that.

Without a doubt. A humped comb does nothing for me. Let alone the chunks taken out of the stock for the DM. Nice figure in the wood though.

Agree 100%. I think a NEW SBS Prohunter is close to $1000.00 but MSRP is $1200.00. However on Gunbroker you can get used ones cheaper.

While I am a fan of Steyr's and own a few I'm going to have to disagree with you on these two points here.
I like the location of the safety but it's not the best safety out there, it doesn't block the firing pin in all modes. It's possible to adjust the trigger light enough to where the gun will go off when dropped on it's butt while on safety. That won't happen on a M-70 safety because the safety isn't on the trigger it's on the firing pin.

The Stery stocks while functional are NOT best at reducing recoil. I remember that this was the first thing Jon Sundra commented on when he reviewed the 376 Pro-Hunter Stery, commenting that the stock ACCENTUATED the recoil. If nothing else the Recoil pads are not the best and do little to absorb and spread out the recoil. And yes I do own a 376 and have other 375 rifles to compare it too.

Steyr's are accurate well thought out rifles. I particularly am fond of the Scouts and hunt with one often (with a regular scope though). Wouldn't mind a few more, but I do know of the the problems with the safety's and stocks......................DJ

There's a Steyr-Daimler 22-250 heavy barrel with set triggers at a local gun shop, looks like a nice rifle, dont know squat about this one though, forgot what scope is mounted on it, anyone know anything about this model, asking price is 1100.00,

i guess it comes down to what works for you. Some people hate anchovies and have never tried them either.
ugly, yep. some steyrs are.
pricey? yeah, if your dumb enough to pay retail for a new steyr. it would be like paying retail for a new anvil.
do they shoot?
see for yourself.

I have the same MIII 270 you have and it is a super accurate rifle. I love the twisted barrel, rotary mag, etc.

As they say "beauty is in the eye of the beholder".

And no I don't own one.

Jim