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Been on the Chuck hawks web site reading a review on the sako 85.
Whilst he does praise it in some regards, in others he is a bit critical of the "so called" control round feed and the magazine box arrangement.


Any cause for alarm??

Cheers
Gus
I take everything I read on the net, with a grain of salt. the sako's i have owned have functioned flawlessly, and been verry good shooters. To each his own.
Posted By: mlg Re: Sako 75 and 85 - over-rated?? - 04/19/11
I think he is right - its not a proper CRF action - to begin with, I suspect it can be double stroked like any other pushfeed action - also it has a tiny pushfeed type extractor.

I am not sure how it could ever be compared to an M98 CRF action or one of its derivatives.

Whilst they may function well I doubt it could be called a true CRF action.

First mistake is paying attention to anything Chuck Hawks writes..

What's the difference between the 75 and 85? What changes were made?
Originally Posted by Rancho_Loco
First mistake is paying attention to anything Chuck Hawks writes..
Kind of what I was thinkin.

check out what chuck has to say about tikka's he even claims most rifles will not meet the accuracy guarantee. those of us who own tikkas know how much bull that is.
Posted By: CLB Re: Sako 75 and 85 - over-rated?? - 04/19/11
Originally Posted by Rancho_Loco
First mistake is paying attention to anything Chuck Hawks writes..



I struggle often with figuring out who actually likes what he writes...
Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
check out what chuck has to say about tikka's he even claims most rifles will not meet the accuracy guarantee. those of us who own tikkas know how much bull that is.


I've said it before, and I wish it weren't so...my Tikka is the most accurate gun I own, shadowing even the customs i have had. Don't know why, but that gun loves to shoot.
I think chucky is full of poop.

I have owned, shot and hunted a bunch of Sako's and have never had on jam, mis-feed or not a feed a cartridge from the mag.

I have always wanted a custom/semi-custom rifle built and have bought several Remington 700's for just the action. What keeps me from building one is the fear that it will not out shoot my Sako's.

Dink
My Tikka would be one of the last guns to go, if i had to get rid of them. I really wonder how many of them he (chuck) actually shot. Petzal had a much more positive opinion of the Tikkas.
I had a M75 Sako in 25-06 which had been re-barreled. I got rid of it because it didn't perform to my satisfaction. (Note: It had been re-barreled before I bought it.)

At a later date I bought a M85 Finnlight in 06. Love it. If I were to complain about anything it would be the lack of a 24" barrel.

Jim
Dink,
A custom would be hard pressed to out shoot the Sako. My custom 7-08 is exactly how I wanted it. It shoots lights out. But my 308 Sako is right there with it accuracy wise. Than again, a Sako cost just about as much as a custom.
Still trying to figure out why anyone wants a CRF???
I read his article prior to buying my 85 Finnlight. He's dead wrong, and I would consider his advice on the same level as asking the teenager at the big C's gun counter what he would recommend. I've never been more impressed with a rifle.
The only thing I have against them is they don't make it in .223. cry
I am intrigued by these rifles; but keep wondering if they are really worth the money asked.
The only thing that puzzles me about Sako is this...for that price, why an injected plastic stock?
Originally Posted by Gus_K


Any cause for alarm??


No.

I wouldn't put any stock in what he says either.
Originally Posted by Swampman700
Still trying to figure out why anyone wants a CRF???


It's like trying to figure out why anyone would want to date a beautiful woman vs. an old sea hag. If the answer isn't immediately obvious to you then stick with what you know.
I like the 75 in wood. Think they are fine rifles. Don't think I've ever seen an 85.
The crf is going to hurt your accuracy and malfunctions as much or more than a non-crf. I'm just sayin'.
Swampy,

CRF is not gonna hurt accuracy in a hunting rifle. You get benchrest and hunting accuracy confused all the time.

JM
Thanks for all the valuable feedback on this so far.

Greatly appreciated.

Gus
I have 2 Sako's a synthetic stainless model 75 in .270wsm and
a Grey Wolf in 75.308 win both are flawless and both will give
.5 moa if I do my part. They are balanced well, my one & only
complaint is they seem heavier than I like, the Grey Wolf in
particular.Part of my problem is I am addicted to my .280 rem
in Weatherby Ultralight which makes everything I touch seem heavy.
Originally Posted by wrongtime
I am intrigued by these rifles; but keep wondering if they are really worth the money asked.



They are the finest production rifle made. I am a cheap person by nature and I was damn tired of having Remingtons, Winchesters and Rugers that would shoot 2 to 3 inch groups at 100 yards. I was tired of 6 and 8 pound trigger pulls also.

My first Sako was a 75 in 300 ultra that would average in .3's (3 shot groups)with 180 grain partitions. I have bought a few more since then... grin

The only problem with owning Sako's is you won't want to buy Remington, Winchesters and Rugers any more.

Dink
Originally Posted by Swampman700
The crf is going to hurt your accuracy and malfunctions as much or more than a non-crf. I'm just sayin'.


Your sayin' is wrong.
The only way to compare a Sako to a Remchester is that the Sako is svelte compared to the domestics. Owned Remington, Savage, Winchester, and Ruger and they don't compare out of the box.

Sakos might have a crummy synthetic stock but they performed and the stock is the least of my worry and I point it at critters while hunting and they fall over dead. Never have had to worry about accuracy, failure to feed/extract. They work.
Originally Posted by Swampman700
Still trying to figure out why anyone wants a CRF???



I'm still trying to figure out how someone as Stupid as you learned to type................DJ
Originally Posted by Gus_K
Been on the Chuck hawks web site reading a review on the sako 85.
Whilst he does praise it in some regards, in others he is a bit critical of the "so called" control round feed and the magazine box arrangement.


Any cause for alarm??

Cheers
Gus



Sako 85's aren't really a pure CRF because a tri-lugged bolt doesn't allow for a claw extractor. The shell moving forward is retained by the extractor later in the cycle on a M-85 because the extractor has to be higher to fit between 2 of the 3 lugs. A 2-lug bolt with a claw extractor can control the round quicker out of the magazine.

All of which matters little.

Sako's feed smoother than just about any other common bolt gun save a Sauer. They also have actions properly sized to feed rounds. Note that the WSM action is wider than the normal short action for 308's and such. This is so that the fat little WSM rounds can stack better for proper smooth feeding. This probably contributes as much or more to smooth feeding as does what type of extractor you have.

Sako's are darn good rifles. Maybe they are a little boring because you just put a scope on them and go shoot good groups. No rebedding, restocking, barrel tuning, lug lapping, recrowning or other accuracy tricks we are used to doing to other rifles are necessary. If you want a lighter trigger there is one screw to turn. They just work, no muss, no fuss just great shooting rifles...............................DJ
I have a used 85 that I will trade for a new 84.

Anybody?

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I am not so discriminating when it comes to buying rifles. Since my Sako AV I have bought a Win 94, Tikka 695, Ruger MKII-paddle stock, Sako A7, Sauer 90. They all shoot reasonably well, better than I am capable of. I can shoot my ugly duckling Ruger just as well as my beauty queen Sauer. The problem is, I can find some appealing features in every rifle.
Having sayd that, the new Sako 85 Classic Deluxe (go to sako.fi) promises to be everything you'd ever want/need in a modern sporting rifle. High grade walnut with palm swell, single set trigger, hinged floor plate, open sights, barrel band. If Beretta was gracious enough to bring it to us mortals, possibly cal 7X64 I'd consider living on bread and water for a half a year to get it.
Originally Posted by CLB
Originally Posted by Rancho_Loco
First mistake is paying attention to anything Chuck Hawks writes..



I struggle often with figuring out who actually likes what he writes...

I started reading Chuck Hawks and soon realized a subscription was a waste of $$.

What woke me up was when he praised Vanguard's and slammed Tikka's as over priced poor shooting guns.
IMO Sako's are overrated. I've owned 3 now cause I'm a glutton for punishment with a short memory. Quality construction is undeniable but the design leaves something to be desired. A 3 lug bolt with a standing ejector at 6 oclock isn't a good idea. 2 of my 3 eject empties up into the scope. One did it so bad the empty would land back in the chamber usually backwards. My last purchase was a 270Win 85 classic. Beautiful stock but the beadblast had a candy cane pattern where it was beadblasted unevenly. Sent that back and the replacement is one of the worst shooting rifles I've ever had. Shoots most factory ammo over 2". Overrated.....Yep. Won't send it back for fixin either. 3 strikes your out.

Oh yeah. Don't care for the way the squared off belly carries on the 85's either. They're fat on both sides of the magazine.
Originally Posted by Horseman

Oh yeah. Don't care for the way the squared off belly carries on the 85's either. They're fat on both sides of the magazine.



That is the main thing I disike about the 85.

Originally Posted by Horseman
Sent that back and the replacement is one of the worst shooting rifles I've ever had. Shoots most factory ammo over 2". Overrated.....Yep.


Every single Sako 75 and 85 has to shoot a 5 shot 1" group with factory ammo before it can leave the factory. I'll bet that there's dozens of shooters here that have shot sub 1" groups with theirs. I've had more than a dozen that shot sub MOA. If you were shooting 2" groups maybe it's your own shooting ability that's overrated. If you are getting 2" groups it ain't the gun........................DJ
Been shooting competitive benchrest at my local club for years. I own dozens of rifles and am confident in my shooting abilities. Many of my rifles shoot well under 1moa from a bench with handloads. I know it's hard for you to accept but not all Sako's are tackdrivers. I have no reason to lie. I'd love to not feel like I wasted my money on them.
Originally Posted by Horseman
Been shooting competitive benchrest at my local club for years. I own dozens of rifles and am confident in my shooting abilities. Many of my rifles shoot well under 1moa from a bench with handloads. I know it's hard for you to accept but not all Sako's are tackdrivers. I have no reason to lie. I'd love to not feel like I wasted my money on them.


Once again, every single one of them shot a 5 shot sub-moa group before they left the factory. Why wouldn't yours?................DJ
There may be a factory load it would shoot 1". But for $1900 I would like it to shoot better than just one load hovering at 1".

I tried 5 different bullets known for accuracy in various weights and 4 different factory loads. One of the handloads could just barely get under 1" but most were closer to 2". It shot a couple different factory loads over 2.5". I don't want a rifle that's that picky and I've been spoiled by other great shooting rifles I own. It's not uncommon today to buy a rifle that will shoot cloverleafs with the right handloads. Unfortunately after 3 Sako 85's none of them have impressed my at the bench.
i bought a .243 sako in 1968. shot everything i put in it less than and inch most less than a half. trigger pull is 1.87 pounds now that i have a measuring device. the magazine feed is flawless. worth all my saving to spend a little more. guns last a long time. unfortunately barrels do not.
Originally Posted by Horseman
There may be a factory load it would shoot 1". But for $1900 I would like it to shoot better than just one load hovering at 1".


Which Sako M-85 did you have to pay $1900 for??....................DJ
New 85 Classic from Alex Roy @ Europtic. And that was cutting me a break. Many listed on GB for over $2000.
The hunters are quite a bit less but as far as the "Classics" from EuroOptic he was cutting you a break.

What mounts were you using?

I've had enough Sako's to be convinced that if the rifle isn't shooting MOA it's something other than the rifle. They have shot at least 1 5 shot MOA group before they leave the factory, if the one I'm shooting isn't doing as well I always wonder is it me, the mounts, the scope, the ammo or what? I KNOW the rifle is an MOA gun. At least that's the way I think with Sako's. With other brands there's usually a few things that need to be done before you can be sure it's not the rifle itself............................DJ
I was using Optilock 1 pc ringmounts on this particular rifle and there was no sign of movement and no change in POI after removing and reinstalling. Scope was a proven VX3 from another gun. If I had to guess I'd say sloppy chamber is the problem on this gun. Noticeable stretch above the web on fired cases and the fired cases don't even come close to chambering in other 270's. Neck sizing helped a bit.

I'm not saying all 85's are junk. I'm sure yours are accurate as you say they are. I just haven't had good luck with them. This is why I keep going back for more but I think I'm done after this one.
I have a Sako 75 Finnlight 270 Win. and it's a gret rifle.

I'm not a fan of Chuck Hawks.
My .223 Sako 75 Hunter has been an amazing rifle since day one. It has the habit of shooting several loads and bullet weights to the same point of impact, something I find quite pleasing. The action feeds cartridges so smoothly I almost have to look to see if I really put any in the magazine. It is the most accurate bolt gun I own and many local coyotes have been on the receiving end of mine.

My only complaint (a major one) is that I don't think the bluing process on the barrel was properly 'stopped.' I tried every rust preventive known to man during my first few years with the rifle and after a month or so a rag would come off red when wiped on the barrel. Finally tried paste wax and the problem, for some reason, totally disappeared. The action and bottom metal did not have this problem. Years ago I had a Rugar 77 with the same issue. These are the only two rifles I have ever had rust issues with in 50 years of gun ownership.

I also have a Sako AV 30-06 with a Classic stock that I enjoy greatly.
I havent read any reviews on sako rifles, but from what I know from shooting others rifles, I cant see them being over-rated in any way.

Gunner
My Model 85 Stainless Synthetic 375 H&H is - without a doubt - the finest non-custom rifle I have owned in almost four decades of buying rifles.

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Pigster, count me in as a SAKO fan, I have a 75 and two Model 85's. I am very interested in the Classic Deluxe model as well. Do you have any idea on a time frame that they will hit these shores?
Me too. They are one of the first rifles I recommend when my clients ask what new rifle to buy.
Originally Posted by 458Win
Me too. They are one of the first rifles I recommend when my clients ask what new rifle to buy.


Phil, your endorsement says a lot.
Originally Posted by Horseman
I was using Optilock 1 pc ringmounts on this particular rifle and there was no sign of movement and no change in POI after removing and reinstalling. Scope was a proven VX3 from another gun. If I had to guess I'd say sloppy chamber is the problem on this gun. Noticeable stretch above the web on fired cases and the fired cases don't even come close to chambering in other 270's. Neck sizing helped a bit.



What you've described is pretty much completely out of character for Sako's. I've got to think that somehow yours was messed with or ??? ............................dj
I have no idea whether it will be imported by Beretta-USA. Someone who carries more clout with the upper brass should give them a call.
They had to wait for this replacement rifle to be shipped from Beretta. I cut the factory tape at my FFL. This came from Sako f'ed up. As did the first one that needed to be replaced because of uneven beadblasting on the barrel. I wanted for it to be my new favorite rifle but the whole experience soured me on them. I know my experience is not typical, but I didn't get what I paid for.
Originally Posted by 1OntarioJim
I had a M75 Sako in 25-06 which had been re-barreled. I got rid of it because it didn't perform to my satisfaction. (Note: It had been re-barreled before I bought it.)

At a later date I bought a M85 Finnlight in 06. Love it. If I were to complain about anything it would be the lack of a 24" barrel.

Jim


Jim, If you don't mind answering; What scope, rings and ring height did you use on your M85 Finnlight in 06?

Thanks smile
Regardless of your feelings on Chuck Hawks his assessment of Sako 85 is correct (Some of his other articles, not so much). He states it is a good rifle but he takes exception to their advertising. He is right it is a great rifle but if you want controlled round feed or that is important to you this rifle is not for you because it is in no way shape or form a controlled round feed action. If you don't understand why it isn't a controlled round feed it will probably be a great rifle for you.

I had a Sako 85 greywolf, terrific rifle but not controlled round feed and same as some other posters all ejected rounds hit the scope and fell back in the action jamming it every time. I will not use the super high rings so had to send it down the road. I really wanted to love it after spending 1400 for my dream rifle but it left me disappointed.
Could you be stock crawling and burying your line of sight? Would it be possible to post a pic of you mounting the rifle with your line of sight in relation to the scope centerline??

Also, other than having a non-traditional three lug claw extractor, that dependent on chambering, may require a bit more cartridge movement, how is it different than a current factory production rifle having a traditional full length extractor? The only Sako M85 I've owned was a 338WM, and you'd need to monkey with your bolt work a great deal in an attempt to cause any feeding issues. It's not impossible, but pretty darn near impossible to cause any jams. Never owned a Sako 338Fed with the short action stroke like the one tested by Chuck Hawks, but I have owned several new in the box short action M70s with full length extraxtors that had similar issues as described in the Chuck Hawks review which required some feed work to correct. Don't see where it is an exclusive issue to the M85.

Best smile
Chucky don't know everything. I have a bunch of the old L-61 Sako rifles. I like the early ones with the Bofor barrels. Sako are the best out there
I have also owned a pile of Sako 75/85 rifles, im no Sako fanboy like many on this thread but i do love the fit, finish and feel of the rifles, i never had a problem with sako synthetic stocks, i actually liked them for their lightness and feel but im no stock snob and have no problem with injection molded stocks......on the other hand I am also under no illusion that every Sako rifle will shoot 5 shot MOA groups, yes Sako makes that claim and most of my rifles would live up to the guarantee but i also had a few that absolutely would not shoot even a 2" 3 shot group much less a 5 shot MOA group.......and almost every one Of my Sako 30-06 action length rifles had the very common ejection problems ( hitting the scope ) though none of my .308, or .300 WSM rifles had this issue, I always used low rings as I cant stand a scope that sits and a mile over the reciever, i dont see how anyone can possibly get a proper cheekweld with such high scopes......Sako rifles are overall good rifles but not the best thing since sliced bread.....Ha!........Hb
They are both well made rifles with some flaws.

I had a Sako 75 in 7-08 that was the most accurate factory rifle I've ever owned. Consistent .25"-.5" groups with premium factory ammo. However, the magazine dropped out of the rifle during a pig hunt and the rifle was sold after that.

Took a 75 in .300 Win on safari about 10 years ago. Had ejection problems with the empty round hitting the scope and falling back into the action. Decided to use my .416 for everything for the remainder of the safari and sold the 75 upon my return.

Now have a Black Bear Model 85 in .308. Light, handy, accurate, handles well, no ejection issues and the magazine stays put. It is not a true controlled round feed action, but for PG I don't consider that a deal breaker.

An 85 Black bear in 9.x62 Mauser should be a good pig rifle, providing it doesn't have ejection issues.

My suggestion would be either a Winchester 70, Kimber, Mauser 98 or Dakota, depending on your price point. IMO, Sako still has some work to do to perfect their rifle.
Originally Posted by Winchestermodel70
They are both well made rifles with some flaws.

I had a Sako 75 in 7-08 that was the most accurate factory rifle I've ever owned. Consistent .25"-.5" groups with premium factory ammo. However, the magazine dropped out of the rifle during a pig hunt and the rifle was sold after that.

Took a 75 in .300 Win on safari about 10 years ago. Had ejection problems with the empty round hitting the scope and falling back into the action. Decided to use my .416 for everything for the remainder of the safari and sold the 75 upon my return.

Now have a Black Bear Model 85 in .308. Light, handy, accurate, handles well, no ejection issues and the magazine stays put. It is not a true controlled round feed action, but for PG I don't consider that a deal breaker.

An 85 Black bear in 9.x62 Mauser should be a good pig rifle, providing it doesn't have ejection issues.

My suggestion would be either a Winchester 70, Kimber, Mauser 98 or Dakota, depending on your price point. IMO, Sako still has some work to do to perfect their rifle.


I've used a 75 for nearly 15 years without any mag problem. Did yours always have a positive click when inserting the mag? I would be willing to bet you just didn't get it completely seated that day for some reason.
I have owned a Sako 75 in .280 and currently own a M75 in 7mm-08. IMO, they are great rifles. Good fit and finish and the accuracy has been excellent. Some of the few factory rifles that will shoot multiple factory loads as well as handloads well. Many of my other rifles are a one or two load gun but the Sakos seem to break that trend.
Could have stopped at SAKO
Sako's are my favorite rifle. I like them more than the pre-64 model 70's I own.
The 85 Finnlight pretty much scores a 10/10 in most attributes for me. Rings are the only thing that is odd.
BTW, they show .223s in both 12 and 8 twist.

Jack
Was all set to make an offer on a model 75 stainless but a dude beat me to it.
Originally Posted by Terryk
The 85 Finnlight pretty much scores a 10/10 in most attributes for me. Rings are the only thing that is odd.


Can't get more gun for the $$$$. I use Talley bases on my 85 Finnlight. They can only get tighter & it works fine for me.

My 85 is in a Dakota Classic stock. It returns to perfect zero with each replacing of the scope, it shoots 1/2 moa with regularity. 300 WSM, 165 Accubonds @ 3050 fps.... what more do you need?
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IDG was this a short action or long action M85? Seems like everyone who has had this problems has had a long action. I currently own a 75 greywolf 270wsm with no problems but am throwing around the idea of buying a 7mm rem mag in a 85 Finnlight. If this is a common problem on 85 long actions I may decide to go 300wsm instead. Thanks
Posted By: RBO Re: Sako 75 and 85 - over-rated?? - 01/11/17
I can't understand the love for the Sako's. I've owned a few, and although there is nothing wrong with them, there's also nothing special about them. It's like a Tikka in nice cloths, and as a matter of fact my Tikka's have been more accurate rifles in general. I'm sure the only reason they don't build Tikka's with all metal parts is because they wouldn't be able to sell a Sako if they did.
Originally Posted by 458Win
Me too. They are one of the first rifles I recommend when my clients ask what new rifle to buy.


Good to hear that, as I just bought my first Sako a few days ago. cool
Originally Posted by Swampman700
The crf is going to hurt your accuracy and malfunctions as much or more than a non-crf. I'm just sayin'.


I'm betting that this meets the definition of fake news.
Originally Posted by BayouRover
Originally Posted by Swampman700
The crf is going to hurt your accuracy and malfunctions as much or more than a non-crf. I'm just sayin'.


I'm betting that this meets the definition of fake news.


Oh dear God! I was sort of hoping that Swampman700 had gone the way of Savage99 or Lee24! eek sick
Originally Posted by Swampman700
The crf is going to hurt your accuracy and malfunctions as much or more than a non-crf. I'm just sayin'.


Why make a statement and apologize in the same breath? You didn't offend anyone.
Although, your statement is incorrect. CRF was used in military bolt rifles for a good reason.
Love my Sako 75 in .260. Was always a Remington fan until (and still am). However, the Sako is svelte in feeding and extraction. Much more positive than my Remington.
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I had a Sako 85 greywolf, terrific rifle but not controlled round feed and same as some other posters all ejected rounds hit the scope and fell back in the action jamming it every time.


VaHillbilly
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......and almost every one Of my Sako 30-06 action length rifles had the very common ejection problems ( hitting the scope )


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Took a 75 in .300 Win on safari about 10 years ago. Had ejection problems with the empty round hitting the scope and falling back into the action. Decided to use my .416 for everything for the remainder of the safari and sold the 75 upon my return.


Had a 85 Finnlight 30-06 did the same thing. No problem to duplicate it. Customer service wouldn't even admit it was a problem. Went round and round with them. Told me they couldn't guarantee every possible scope and mount combination that customers use would work. Mine was a 1" tube Zeiss with medium Leupold rings. But they couldn't guarantee that would work. Told me the rifle was tested with no scope and that was the extent of the warranty. Have the emails to back it up.

The ejector on these rifles is at the 6 o'clock position on the bolt face. Dead at the bottom. Just like a Winchester 94 that's designed to kick the case out the top of the action. Works just fine for that. But makes it hard for the extractor at about 10 o'clock (IIRC) to pull the case out before the case mouth hits the bottom of the scope. When that happens the extractor loses it's hold on the cartridge rim, and with the bolt still moving to the rear the ejector pushes the case head out the bottom of the extractor. Almost like it's made to do that. Very bad design. Wouldn't begin to consider using such a thing against critters that bite and claw or even in an area where they live.

Seems only the long action is affected. Short cartridges must have just enough room. But it't the last Sako/Beretta I'll buy more so because of the lack of concern and honesty by customer service than anything else. YMMV


edit: Sent it down the road with full disclosure to somebody that figured it could be fixed.

Originally Posted by Swampman700
The crf is going to hurt your accuracy and malfunctions as much or more than a non-crf. I'm just sayin'.


CRFs have to be properly adjusted for the cartridge they're chambered for. Many are not, often the result, I suspect, of being rebarreled, but not adjusted. One reason for the big push for detachable mags is that the feed lips eliminate the need for adjusting, in other words, economy (cheapness).

I am okay with push-feed and Sako-style extractors, but plunger ejectors are a pain. Everyone seems to blame the position of the fixed ejector on the 85 for the problems. Lets hope they move it back. I'd like very much to have one of the 85s, but don't like DMs on a hunting rifle, so any Sakos in my future will probably be old ones. At least the Sako mags are flush.
Originally Posted by Deflagrate
Originally Posted by Swampman700
The crf is going to hurt your accuracy and malfunctions as much or more than a non-crf. I'm just sayin'.


Why make a statement and apologize in the same breath? You didn't offend anyone.
Although, your statement is incorrect. CRF was used in military bolt rifles for a good reason.


Why are you guys responding to a five year old post? crazy
Originally Posted by dogcatcher223
The only thing that puzzles me about Sako is this...for that price, why an injected plastic stock?


My first Sako was an 85 Finnlight. With its plastic stock it shot as good as it does now with its custom stock. I could swap stocks at will with no shift in accuracy. Some will criticize the factory stock. But, not all injection molded stocks are cheap junk.
Originally Posted by devnull

Sakos might have a crummy synthetic stock but I point it at critters while hunting and they fall over dead.


Wow! That would really save on load development.
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