what kind of accuracy can be expected from this little carbine?

With scopes MOA and SUB MOA easy with handloads and the higher quality factory loads like Randy Garrets.

With Ghost Ring and front post 1.5-2MOA is about the norm.

With the factory iron sights I can do no better than 3MOA, some might shoot those better than me though.

Go over to www.marlinowners.com and check out the postal targert match they have. Most of those marlins will out shoot the average bolt action.

Depends on many factors. Mine isn't a Guide Gun but rather the standard 22" model. 5-6" @ 300 yards is common. With light loads, bug holes at 50. Have never shot my hunting loads at that range, so don't know about them.) 1-1/2" @ 100 with the right load.

For me, if I can get a 5 shot group of full power hunting loads inside of 3.5", I'm very happy. I have a slightly reduced load that will often shoot about 2.5". My best shooter was the 1895 Cowboy model with 26" barrel. Squirrel gun it is not, but does a good job on bigger critters.

With a stout charge of h4895 and a hornady 350gr roundnose, my GS will group 5 shots right around an inch @100yards. Thats with a Leupold 1-4 with the heavy duplex. It's a ported gun, so recoil is not too bad. Without the ports, I think it would have a little kick.

Had a couple over the years both ported and non ported. With the small aperture peeps (Lyman or Marble) I would expect 1 1/2" or so. With a ghost ring setup a bit more, but still definitely more than accurate enough for big critters not too far off.

i have a early ported model with a cheapo bushnell sportsman 4x32 on it and can shoot one-holers all day at 50 yards with factory 300 grain HP's. running it out to 100 yards opens it to about MOA or a bit more. 200 yards and it opens way up and is like lobbing cannon balls but i hunt PA so most shots are 50 yards give or take. one of these days i will put a better scope on it but i will never use it for long shots. not really designed for that but capable in the right hands and with the right scope/sites.

Mine is a nonported 1895G and I shoot a case full of H4895 - 59.0grs and the 350 Hornady. Mine will also run right around 1" at 100yds with a 2.5x Leupold.

Here is a pic of 42.0grs RL7 + 405 Rem @ 60 yds. This was with a Skinner peep sight, missed the penny though.

The Guide Guns I've owned usually shot 1" or less at 100 yards with Remington factory ammo.

........Remington makes Guide Guns?????...........

I couldn't do very well with the factory sights but my groups (and target acquisition) improved quite a bit when I added XS Ghost-ring sights.

These are two 4-shot groups at 50 yards(Federal 300gr Hot-core HPs) from my 1895G 45-70......

Once had a ported one; Remington 400 grainers in stout handloads would shoot into an inch or thereabouts. The Speer 400 grainers were not quite as accurate, but I preferred them because they used to be (still are?) a little softer.

Was kind of surprised, as I had read a bunch of gun mag stuff saying lever actions were not accurate...was more accurate than some of the bolt actions I've had.

Jerry

i'm running 42.0 grains of rldr 7, with remington 405's.
haven't chrono'd the load yet, but, recoil isn't bad, and at 100 yards, i have holes touching.

i am hoping for 1500 to 1600 fps.
should be about right for an in the woods elk thumper.

Actually now they do, the same company that owns Remington bought Marlin. The product immediately went to chit. They seem to have things under control now, but this has been one of the worst handled factory take overs I can think of. They shut down the Marlin plant, moved operations and basically fugged up left and right.

Two guide guns: One a Davidson's limited edition, stainless w/laminated stock, wearing a Leupold European (30 mm) 1-5X scioe. The other, a recently purchased made in 1999 ported blue w/walnut stock, wearing the same Leupold European (30 mm) 1-5X scope. Both group 1/2" - 3/4" at 100 yds. with Remington factory 300 gr. and w/my reloads, using H322. Can't ask for better. Both of these are MARLINS, Not REMLINS.

Pierre

They've made all the good ones. pre-Remington Marlins are $hit.

That doesn't even make sense.

Are you drunk?

LOL

I don't drink. Let's see if we can explain it in simple terms. The Marlin .45-70 Guide Guns made by Remington in Remington facilities are nice and accurate.

Yeah, multiple rail issues on the SBLs, misaligned barrels, schitty machining....and the list goes on. Marlin QC has obviously gone down since they became Remlin.

George

That's two statements you've made that I have experience that indicates otherwise.

I had a .308 M700 that WOULD NOT shoot. Simply would not group.

I have a Marlin-made guide gun that WILL shoot. Accurately, that is. Groups run from .8" to 1.2", depending on how well I am accommodating recoil. And,yes, that is at 100 yards.

But, that's just my experience.

I've owned dozens of both. If you had an inaccurate Model 700 it wasn't the rifle.

Pre-Remington Marlins are $hit, and if a Model 700 wasn't accurate it wasn't the rifles fault? Are you for real Swampy? I think the Remington Kool-aid has been laced with acid.

Maybe you should (again).

I can shoot.

Explain the Marlin doing so well....

Never mind..

I have a Marlin Guide Gun [circa 2002], that is ported. I mounted a 1-4x leupold scope on it. It shoots around 1" at 100 yds. I've killed bear, hogs, and 7 head of African plains game, with that little rig. My go-to bullet is the 300 gr. nosler partition. Pre Remington, they are great, well made little guns.

BTW, before I forget, Swampie, yer full of schitt!


maddog

Well...


With my XLR at 100 Yrds I get 1.5-2.0 with my 450 Marlin and Pep sights...

From a bench

Given the low power optics (2.5 x)on my guide gun, I am quite pleased with it's accuracy. About 2 moa for me. I'm running 405 gr gov slugs. I think it might snug up a bit if I used better optics. I'm not planning on head shooting ground squirrels with that one, so it's more than adequate for its intended use (dark timber elk).

Mine was crazy accurate, sub-MOA scoped if I took the time to bench it right, which isn't easy, and fight my way past that trigger.

If accuracy is the goal Wild West (I think it is) makes a trigger that a buddy of mine, who is really into triggers, likes a lot.

From what I'm seeing on other forums, and hearing from people, the new Remington made Marlins, And I'm talking .45-70s, are fraught with issues, from installing barrels in Guide Guns, meant for other guns with mis-located dovetails, to offset sights, to extremely rough (unpolished) bolts and feeding levers, to a series of other maladies, that should have been cured with a little quality control. Boils down to simply not caring about what is pushed out the door. The JM Marlin made guns have exhibited great - I mean, great - accuracy, and excellent quality control. Will Remington ever turn out a good product again? I've had issues with 3 Remington bolt guns in 7mm-08. All of the guns different configurations. Mainly accuracy and trigger issues. Fixing the trigger and reloading has not helped accuracy. Sent them all packing. My bolts are now Ruger Hawkeyes. Excellent guns! the foreign company that purchased Marlin and Remington certainly did not do the American sportsman any favors. Ruined two American institutions. There are other companies that were bought out as well by this conglomerate. We'll have to wait to hear reports on them. If you can buy a pre-Remington (aka Remlin) Marlin, scarf one up while you can. They are excellent. My recent ANIB ported Guide Gun (built in 1999) is a prime example: incredible accuracy, very well built, and smooth as silk. Better than most bolt action guns.

Pierre