Considering putting these on my L61R Finnbear since I have the need for 30mm rings now. I have had the Optilock ring/base setup on a Tikka for a dozen years and really like it, but recently I've noticed the Optilock ringmounts, eliminating the need for the bases. Question is....does anyone prefer one over the other?

http://www.scopelist.com/sako-optilock-ringmounts-blue-30mm-x-low-75-85-s1701904.aspx

...these? First time I've heard of em...looks simple enough, don't know how they compare strength-wise to base/ring set up.

If you can get the ring mounts then thats what I would go with...anyone who has them really likes them. I tried to find them when I had my sako's but had no luck up here...

Yes they are better(lower) IMO, but too low on some Sako's can be an issue if the ejectored shells hit the scope turret knob.....

Brownells did have then $40 cheaper but it seems they are out of stock.

Just put ringmounts on my Back Bear and they are great! Only available in low and there is plenty of bolt clearance and should take a 42mm objective at least without any problems.

Very neat looking mounts!

I was told the ringmounts will fit a 50mm. I had trouble with the last 85 I had the ringmounts on. They were 1" low(only size made)and spent cases hit my scope on a 270win.

I'm currently trying a set on ringmounts on another Sako with 30mm tube scope. Didn't get the scope yet so I cannot comment yet. The ringmounts look much better than 2pc Optilocks IMO. They still utilize the recoil pin on the rear ring and seem every bit as strong as the 2pc to me.

I've had little spare time this month to work with mine a ton, but what I've done so far has proven to me that these new ringmounts are working extremely well with my combination.

I'm using an M-size 9.3x62 model 85 with the factory ST stock, which has the same lines as the Finnlight. My 30mm tube scope is the S&B Zenith 1.1-4X model with the standard height turrets. Though these turrets are smaller than bulkier target turrets, they are larger and bulkier than turrets found on normal Leupold hunting scopes. As expected, the initial zeroing and testing of my rifle has shown little difficulty in obtaining sub-MOA accuracy with standard hunting loads. In addition, I've also been able to maintain this accuracy after removing and replacing the scope several times using the ringmounts. The icing on the cake is that the rifle feeds flawlessly with these low mounted ringmounts. I intend to post a video of this performance with a review when I get some spare time in the next month or so. I have no problem duplicating D'Arcy Echols feat of cycling a full mag box of ammo through the rifle at blinding speed without a hiccup.

In my opinion, these ringmounts are the ticket, unless you have an issue with ring mounting space, eye relief, and/or some issue with oversized turrets which may crowd the ejection port. The profile of the factory ST stock works extremely well with my combination and allows for a near instinctive natural pointing of the rifle which dovetails with its ease of handling. My rifle also wears iron sights which will see much use. As such, I do not care for the aftermarket mounts which would leave an adapter base attached to the receiver when the scope/rings are removed. I greatly appreciate the ability to remove the scope/mounts leaving a clean receiver top. Even without iron sights, this repeatable scope removal could prove handy for maintenance and travel.

As you can see, I've become a pretty big fan as everything has fallen into place without much effort. I'd imagine if my combination was one that did not fit as well, I'd probably be complaining. You just need to do your homework to determine if they will fit properly on your combination. If you are using a huge scope having tall turrets, if you are limited in ring spacing, if you have little to no wiggle room with eye relief, and/or you are a certified card carrying member of the stock crawler Guild, you may should look elsewhere.

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I have 2 Sako's with ringmounts and prefer them to the 2pc. The rear ringmount sits pretty far back due to the position of the recoil pin. I almost ran out of room for forward positioning of scope to establish proper eye relief for me (see pic). Also, the screws are pretty soft, so be sure to use an appropriate fit metric allen wrench when torquing them. I think it is 2.5mm.

That's some excellent info. I'm one of those that also loved the integral mounting of Ruger rings, so I immediately was interested in these ringmounts. I think I'll give them a try.

GaryVA.....do you happen to have a pic or two of your setup? The VX6 I'm going to mount has very generous eye relief all across the power range, and ample ring space room, so it ought to work great. I've really been trying to decide which rifle to mount it on..L61R Finnbear or Tikka 695, both 7mags.

Horseman, I'd like to see your pics of that 30mm setup too if you can. Appreciate the help fellas.

The new Ringmounts do not use metric allen, they are Torx. I personally do not see how these Torx screws are soft. With mine, the clamp screws have the same head and rating as the action screws which can withstand torque settings much greater than the specified torque used for scope mounting. I've removed and retorqued mine enough times to last a lifetime of mounting and they show no sign of wear.

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Good to know GaryVA. I'd love to get my hands on some Torx screws for the optilock! Do you know if they are the same size as the older allen screws? Thanks.

What is the objective size of that scope?

42 and low RM's

Damn, those ringmounts do look good and with the recoil lug on the back ring I'd say they are pretty secure, still not the rock solid design of the mighty Ruger integral system but I think good enough, these ringmounts have me considering Sako rifles again. I never fell out of love with Sako rifles I just couldn't stand their clamp-on too high and heavy Opti-lok system. can you get these in stainless or at least a matte finish? I only buy stainless rifles and bright blue ringmounts wont due...........Hb

Less Parts = mo better. I have not been able to find those when I owned Sakos/Tikka but if I were to buy another Sako I would purchase those.

I am in a love-hate relationship with Sako.Don't jump on the bandwagon too soon.Considering Beretta's history they will either discontinue or stop importing the ringmounts soon.

I have not seen them in stainless.

They are produced in stainless. I don't know if they are available in the US?

www.sako.fi/optilockproducts.php?ringmounts

Opti's get my vote. Seem safe and secure on my Swaro Z3.

You need 30mm? Hope you get a stainless scope too! :-)

http://www.nelsontactical.com/shopp...92.html?zenid=km9a0h0bqaqvgmp6bhl2mfanf7

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I can't figure out where you keep coming up with this "too high" business on optilocks and bases. I have that system on a Tikka 695. I have mounted a VX3 w 40mm objective and it isn't more than 1/4" above the barrel. What's too high about that?

They have been made for a few years the ring mounts that is. I have seen them on other peoples guns..one can call beretta and order them directly.

I don't think it's an issue unless you want to mount something like a Leupold 1.75-6X32 and want to save a few ounces in the scope and mounts in an already light rifle like a Finnlite.The Ringmounts are better but with the old 2 piece your mounts are nearly as heavy as the scope and you wish a lower mount was offered.

I come to this conclusion from My own experience Raider, I have tried Opti-lok's with low rings on Sako 75 rifles and My 40 mm objective scopes were still way too high for My taste, I couldn't get a good check weld as I would have to raise My head to get a full sight picture in My scope, I also don't like the bulky look or weight of the Opti-lok system (I've got some stainless Opti-lok's still in the factory box that I would sell cheap)I finally settled on Talley rings and bases on all of My Sako 75/85 rifles, the Talley's got My scope down where I liked it and are much lighter and sleeker looking than the Sako system both however are mighty pricey.............Hb

If the objective bell clears the barrel, I'd not worry about any amount of gap, the measurement at this spot once cleared has no bearing. What is important, however, would be the location of the scope tube center in relation with your line of sight. Using your best form, mount the rifle to make sure a peephole down the center of the tube lines up with your eye. At that point, you'd be golden, as long as the bolt handle clears and you leave the port unobstructed.

For me, my combination lines up at a near perfectly natural, almost instinctive, line of sight. Flip side, someone who prefers to stock crawl to the extreme may find a less pleasing result. Every stock profile doesn't fit everyone equally well. It's a great fit with me, maybe not so with another.

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Very true Gary, what fits one man great might not fit the other man for chit! ..............Hb

I have a set of the Ringmounts with a Leupold VX3 3.5-10x40 on my Sako m75 Greywolf 338-06 Ackley Improved I had built in 2008-didnt knowthey existed till I picked up my rifle and the gunsmith had installed them.



Nice and clean. I do have the Optilock low rings and bases setup on all my other Sako m75 and Tikka t3 rifles. All my scopes are Leupold with 40mm OBJ.

Anyone find a good cheaper source for the new ring mounts yet?