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Posted By: 10generation Three Rifles - 10/06/13
I know this topic has been discussed in various forums many times, so apologies if some feel its redundant. That said, I think much of what is written on the campfire is redundant, because we like discussing it...

I've been acquiring rifles for a while and I notice that I have my favorites that get used and a few that are unscoped and will likely live in the safe.

As many have done, I'm thinking of selling the ones that don't get used so I can just get a few that I really, really, like.

I'm thinking I want three rifles. Once I get the core battery, I might go back to getting more (because its fun) but I'm leaning toward refocusing my dollars into three.

Calibers are the question.

I'm sure one will be a .260 or 6.5x55 - love the 6.5, covers all deer, hog, etc. needs. I have a .260 now. Like the history of the 6.5x55.

Next is a .30 cal - will either be 30-06 or 300 H&H. Leaning 30-06 because the more I shoot one, the more I feel it fits a great balance of recoil, effectiveness, large supply of available ammo. Like the H&H over the win mag because of history and tradition. I own one of each.

Lastly is an africa rifle. Specifically, buffalo. Don't think I will ever go after any other dangerous game. Thinking .375 or .404. Don't have one of these.

What would you do?

Posted By: ingwe Re: Three Rifles - 10/06/13
This is what I did do when I was hunting a lot of big game.

7x57
.300H&H
.375H&H
Posted By: Oldquailhunter Re: Three Rifles - 10/06/13
I have thought about this a lot and I think for north America:

25-06
270 win
300 win

Dink
Posted By: Tanner Re: Three Rifles - 10/06/13
243 AI
7 Rem
375 H&H.

I'd make 'em stainless and McMillan stocked. 8lbs all up.
Posted By: Teal Re: Three Rifles - 10/06/13
With today's bullets - I'm thinking there's less and less real separation between sub 30 and 30 caliber rifles.

I don't know that there's much I wouldn't poke with a good .284/.264 bullet but would with a .308 diameter bullet.

I'd probably could be very happy with a 6.5 Swede/Creedmoor, a 338 WM (or 35 Whelen but that's me) and a 375 H&H as your Africa rifle.

All of this assumes I already have a good 22LR and a 223 varmint rifle of some sort.
Posted By: gunner500 Re: Three Rifles - 10/06/13
22 LR
308 Winchester
375 H&H

Gunner
Posted By: gmsemel Re: Three Rifles - 10/06/13
Well I have paired down my collection some years ago, right now, I have a 6.5 x 55 Sako Hunter, 7 x 57 Steyr Mannlicher Model M Professional (1976) 7mm Remington Mag Blaser R-93 ( my go to rifle for a few years now) 338 Winchester Mag Sako 75 SS and a Winchester M-70 300 WSM ( a safe queen). On loan is a 243 Winchester M-70. and a 30-06 Remington 760 Pump. I have one shotgun a 12 ga Vinci. I could live with just the shotgun and the Blaser and a couple of more barrels for it. Then again I could just do every thing with the 760, and not feel I was lacking in any way. That one as a 2 moa Aimpoint on it. one of the nicest field shooting guns I own. I am going to be doing more archery than I have been, you get 4 and a half month season in my part of CT and a lot of tags.
Posted By: deflave Re: Three Rifles - 10/06/13
7.5lb 22-250.

7.5lb 7-08.

9.5lb 9.3X62.


Travis
Posted By: roundoak Re: Three Rifles - 10/06/13
22-250
7x57
35 Whelen
Posted By: Winchestermodel70 Re: Three Rifles - 10/06/13
Originally Posted by 10generation
I know this topic has been discussed in various forums many times, so apologies if some feel its redundant. That said, I think much of what is written on the campfire is redundant, because we like discussing it...

I've been acquiring rifles for a while and I notice that I have my favorites that get used and a few that are unscoped and will likely live in the safe.

As many have done, I'm thinking of selling the ones that don't get used so I can just get a few that I really, really, like.

I'm thinking I want three rifles. Once I get the core battery, I might go back to getting more (because its fun) but I'm leaning toward refocusing my dollars into three.

Calibers are the question.

I'm sure one will be a .260 or 6.5x55 - love the 6.5, covers all deer, hog, etc. needs. I have a .260 now. Like the history of the 6.5x55.

Next is a .30 cal - will either be 30-06 or 300 H&H. Leaning 30-06 because the more I shoot one, the more I feel it fits a great balance of recoil, effectiveness, large supply of available ammo. Like the H&H over the win mag because of history and tradition. I own one of each.

Lastly is an africa rifle. Specifically, buffalo. Don't think I will ever go after any other dangerous game. Thinking .375 or .404. Don't have one of these.

What would you do?



If Africa and cape buff are in your future and you are only going to bring one rifle, a .375 H&H is the obvious choice. With a soft up and solids down, you are equipped for anything. If you are going to bring a second rifle, add a .30/06 of the same make.

If you believe that life begins at .40 (as I do), , I suggest a .416 Rigby instead of a .404, mainly because of ammo selection and availability. It shoots reasonably flat out to 200 yards and most PH's have a supply of .30/06. .375 H&H and .416 Rigby on hand from previous clients.

As to Blasers, I have an R93 with multiple barrels (.30/06, .300 Win. .338. 9.3x62 and .375). Accurate rifle, nice trigger, travels easily, but it never seems to have the right barrel on it at the right time. If a Blaser is your choice, I recommend taking just one barrel.

For a quality pair of rifles at a reasonable price, a Winchester 70 Featherweight in .30/06 and a Winchester 70 Safari in .375 is all you need. Buy the best glass you can afford and be sure you mount the scope on the .375 in QD mounts, just in case you need to use the iron sights.

Posted By: hunterjrg Re: Three Rifles - 10/06/13
22LR
223 Rem
30-06
Plain old vanilla
Posted By: 4winds Re: Three Rifles - 10/06/13
If you already have the 260 keep it. The 308 or 06 is excellent anywhere and anything I point at with one dies. Don't have a 375 and this is purely regurgitated from all the African forums I torture myself reading, they all seem to say bring a 375 for cape on down and let the ph carry the stopper.

I've been working the same scenario through my mind for awhile and I think you have a good list with:
260
30-06
375
Posted By: 444Matt Re: Three Rifles - 10/06/13
223
30-06
375

I like boring proven rifles/cartridges.
Posted By: LeroyJenkins Re: Three Rifles - 10/06/13
Originally Posted by 444Matt
223
30-06
375

I like boring proven rifles/cartridges.
Posted By: RinB Re: Three Rifles - 10/07/13
The 375. If you are going to shoot only one buffalo then don't bother to buy a rifle for that one shot, ok maybe two shots. It would be much easier and wiser just to borrow one from your outfitter.

Get a 223 to practice with.

Get a good general-purpose all-around hunting cartridge. The only ones that are available worldwide are 270, 7 mm Remington Magnum, 30-06, and 300 Winchester. The 300 kicks too much for about 90% of hunters. Pick one of the other three. Spend your time and money hunting!

All else is vanity...something with which to preoccupy yourself and to distract you from the fact you are not hunting.
Posted By: chlinstructor Re: Three Rifles - 10/07/13
Originally Posted by ingwe
This is what I did do when I was hunting a lot of big game.

7x57
.300H&H
.375H&H


^^^This^^^

Great minds think alike cool
Posted By: patbrennan Re: Three Rifles - 10/07/13
Originally Posted by RinB
The 375. If you are going to shoot only one buffalo then don't bother to buy a rifle for that one shot, ok maybe two shots. It would be much easier and wiser just to borrow one from your outfitter.

Get a 223 to practice with.

Get a good general-purpose all-around hunting cartridge. The only ones that are available worldwide are 270, 7 mm Remington Magnum, 30-06, and 300 Winchester. The 300 kicks too much for about 90% of hunters. Pick one of the other three. Spend your time and money hunting!

All else is vanity...something with which to preoccupy yourself and to distract you from the fact you are not hunting.


Spot on with that observation! I cannot argue with your choices either.
Posted By: harv3589 Re: Three Rifles - 10/07/13
.223
25-06 or 30-06
375 H&H

Posted By: raybass Re: Three Rifles - 10/07/13
I guess I am in the same camp as Matt, proven and boring. wink
270 winchester
30/06
375 H&H
Posted By: jwall Re: Three Rifles - 10/07/13
Originally Posted by 10generation


or 6.5x55 - love the 6.5, covers all deer, hog, etc. needs. Like the history of the 6.5x55.

be 30-06

Thinking 375



You answered your own ? 6.5X55.... if you handload!!
Posted By: Esox357 Re: Three Rifles - 10/07/13
25.06

308/30.06

375 H&H
Posted By: Paulh Re: Three Rifles - 10/07/13
257 Rob or .243
30-06
375 H&H
Posted By: Ulvejaeger Re: Three Rifles - 10/07/13
22 LR
6.5x55
35 Whelen
Won't ever get to Africa w/o help from PowerBall!
Cheers
Posted By: Mathsr Re: Three Rifles - 10/07/13
Man, I read that and just hope and pray that I am never seriously struck by the same thoughts. My first thoughts were that you seriously need to go sit down around a real campfire with a few of your good friends, that also hunt and shoot, knock back a few cool ones and talk this thing out. I have sold very few firearms over the years that I didn't eventually regret getting rid of.

But going with your premiss of reducing the size of the collection, this is what I would end up with. I would keep my Remington model 7 in 260 Rem, my Kimber in 300 WSM and my Marlin 336 in 35 Rem. Not much I couldn't do, that is left for me to do, with those. I don't need a 22cal centerfire, because there are no prairie dogs in Georgia and the only gophers around here have shells. If I were to be asked the same question in a month, my choices would likely be different. That is the problem I have with selling firearms...
Posted By: MadMooner Re: Three Rifles - 10/07/13
Originally Posted by deflave
7.5lb 22-250.

7.5lb 7-08.

9.5lb 9.3X62.


Travis


About where I'd be.

A fast 22- probably the 250, around 7 pounds

A fast enough 6, 6.5, or 7 to push good BC bullets to 2900 to 3k, around 7 pounds. With today's bullets I don't know how much difference there is between a 243 and a 7-08.

A 9.3 or 375 around 8.5 to 9 pounds.
Posted By: elkhunternm Re: Three Rifles - 10/07/13
.375 H&H

.30-06

.257 Wby
Posted By: BobinNH Re: Three Rifles - 10/07/13
I'd be content with a 270, a 30/06,or a 7 Rem Mag for the regular stuff....Model 70's or a Mauser. Any one of them would do.

A 375H&H on the top end.Same actions.

I don't need a 3rd smaller caliber in the equation.If limited to 3, I would rather have (say) a 270 and 7 Rem Mag or 30/06 around as a third rifle(or a duplicate)),as a spare or backup in the same power category. They get used the most,and I would never grab a 243-type cartridge for any BG hunting when there was a 270 or 30/06 around.In that category I would want "overlap".

I'd skip the sub-270 stuff altogether unless I wanted a 223 for practice.

RinB's point about ammo availability, world wide, is well taken. He has been around.
Posted By: EdM Re: Three Rifles - 10/07/13
To hunt the world and more than once,

223 in AR persuasion
30-06 in Mauser or M70 persuasion
416 Rem in M70 persuasion
Posted By: Nelson Re: Three Rifles - 10/07/13
.223 Rem
25-06 Rem
.35 Whelen

These are my three go to rifles(excluding rimfire)
Posted By: 10generation Re: Three Rifles - 10/07/13
Thanks very much for the thoughts. Couple of responses.

I've got a nice .22 and a .17, might do a .223 for fun as well. Really focused on the larger game hunting battery.

I do think the 30-06 is a more practical solution than the 300 mag and, as someone mentioned, with modern bullets you get much more effectiveness (i've read all JJHACK's posts on the 06 in africa) don't necessarily need a 300 mag.

Was interested that someone said .416 Rigby would have lots of avail ammunition in africa, thought there were a lot more .404's floating around over there. Seems like the consensus is that a .375 is plenty.

Thanks everyone for the opinions.





Posted By: VaHillbilly Re: Three Rifles - 10/07/13
For me: .243 Win
30-06 Sprg
.300 Win
I can hunt everything I go after rather nicely with these three....I have zero interest in Africa and never will, Maybe New Zealand would be nice someday though...................Hb
Posted By: pointer Re: Three Rifles - 10/07/13
Originally Posted by RinB
The 375. If you are going to shoot only one buffalo then don't bother to buy a rifle for that one shot, ok maybe two shots. It would be much easier and wiser just to borrow one from your outfitter.

Get a 223 to practice with.

Get a good general-purpose all-around hunting cartridge. The only ones that are available worldwide are 270, 7 mm Remington Magnum, 30-06, and 300 Winchester. The 300 kicks too much for about 90% of hunters. Pick one of the other three. Spend your time and money hunting!

All else is vanity...something with which to preoccupy yourself and to distract you from the fact you are not hunting.
Now that is some logic I can agree with! Just wish I could live it. Sounds like it was learned through experience... wink

My 3 for big game will be 260 Rem 300 WSM and 338 Win Mag. Will have a 30-06 'heirloom' to back all three up and I don't count it as I won't get rid of it anyway.
Posted By: KDK Re: Three Rifles - 10/07/13
Pretty sure I could get it done with an '06 and a .375. Sure would love to be able to throw a .404, Rigby, or .425 WR in there though. Probably M70s for the first two.
Posted By: davet Re: Three Rifles - 10/07/13
257 Roberts, 300winmag, 44 mag carbine. For what I do, those rounds get it done.
Posted By: lastround Re: Three Rifles - 10/07/13
Assuming we are talking big game rifles:

Since I know I'm not going to Africa, nor am I going to hunt grizzlies or hunt anything in grizzly country, my choices would be a nice accurate 243 and my favorite; a 7mm-08. All I need.........
Posted By: BCJR Re: Three Rifles - 10/07/13
30-06
375 H&H

Done , unless you are into long range hunting , then throw in a ultra mag or a 338 edge.
Posted By: super T Re: Three Rifles - 10/07/13
Already headed in this direction:

.223 Winchester action, #2 Hart barrel, McM.stock
.257R Serengeti stock, Mod.1999 Montana action, 22"PacNor
.30.06 Win.pre-64 23"#3 Hart, McM.stock
Posted By: hunting1 Re: Three Rifles - 10/07/13
I could live well with a .223, 30-06, and a .338.
Posted By: WyoCoyoteHunter Re: Three Rifles - 10/07/13
The choices guys make are amazing and interesting...
For hunting North America, I made my choices years ago.

.22-250 Because I hunt lots of coyotes.. more than any other game. Plus I can kill deer and antelope with it if I choose..

.25-06 Again because it makes a great long range coyote rifle plus I can use it on lighter big game.. IF I were merely using this as a big game rife, I would go with my .270..

..300 Win. Mag. It has been all over North America with me and two trips to Africa..

When we went of Africa, my pal had a .338 and I the .300, I also took a .375 H & H.. It truly was of little use.. If I had the money to go for buffalo, I would then use it.. But for the little use it gets otherwise, I would borrow or rent one for the trip.. While those are my three picks, I have a safe full of guns some I shoot often, some seldom, one model 70 .30-06 has never had a shell in the barrel since I have had it.. But I like them and they give me enjoyment owning and fooling with them.. Major big game hunts have gotten so costly, if I had the money out of all my guns but a few, I doubt if I could make a good stone sheep hunt.. While I enjoy my guns every day, fortunately for me, I can shoot long range or close within 1 mile of the house...
Posted By: WBill Re: Three Rifles - 10/07/13
Personally I have never had a lot of rifles sitting in safe. I've always felt if it's just sitting I don't need it. But I've had a few that I thought would do what I wanted. Started with an 06 it had accuracy issues so traded it for a 308 Win. Then went into the military and sold it. Later ended up with 25-06 and 300 WM in Ruger #1 and old tag Ruger m77. Screwed those two up by getting the .25 in the bolt gun and 300WM in the number one. Backasswards in my opinion, so I sold them! Then I read a bunch of stuff in books and the number one choice back in the day was the 7mmRM. So I bought one in a beautiful Win M70 Supergrade. I was happy with that choice until I hunted elk with it and found it lacking.

Since 1996 the only rifles on my rack:
Win M70 7X57 7.5#(wife's rifle, used for everything)
Win M70 375H&H 10.5#(mine, used for everything)

Soon to hit the rack:
Win M70 300H&H 10#(being built as I type)

Not absolutely sure I need the 300H&H, but I felt we needed a backup. With the moderate recoil my wife could use it in a pinch.

So after 38 years of trying to find the perfect hunting tools these are my choices. Hopefully they will serve our needs for anything we decide to pursue today plus well into future hunts. I'm sure my choices will not fit everyone's needs or desires. But that's also one of the fun parts of being a hunter is to try to come up with your best combination for everything you will hunt!

Cheers!
Posted By: Konnari Re: Three Rifles - 10/07/13
260 Rem
30-06
9.3x62/375 H&H

......and of course a .223 Rem plus a 22LR for practice !
Posted By: GeoW Re: Three Rifles - 10/07/13
5.56mm
7mm
9mm.. maybe 10mm if going to Africa
Posted By: JimR Re: Three Rifles - 10/07/13
223
243
30-06
Posted By: Pilger Re: Three Rifles - 10/07/13
All good choices. My top pick for myself would be a good, dependable .22 rimfire. I seem to use these more than any other. These cover all my needs.

.22 rimfire
.243
.35 whelen.
Posted By: goalie Re: Three Rifles - 10/08/13
.22LR bolt gun
.223 bolt gun
.30-06 bolt gun

I reload, so the .223 might be AI.

But, in the end, I don't NEED to limit myself to three rifles, so I don't.

Posted By: KDK Re: Three Rifles - 10/08/13
Originally Posted by goalie
But, in the end, I don't NEED to limit myself to three rifles, so I don't.


Yep. This does seem like mental masturbation.
Posted By: RinB Re: Three Rifles - 10/08/13
Once, not so long ago, I had actions, barrels, and stock blanks for about 26 different projects. I wanted one rifle in every caliber. As I started hunting more I noticed that the 270 or 7 mm Remington Magnum did everything Very well. They are even better now with the monolithic bullets. Both cover every situation very well. Anything bigger is rarely needed.
Now I have one 7mm Remington Magnum and am getting a 270 put together. I like to practice with the 223 because it has just enough recoil and blast to simulate firing my hunting rifles. I have never been quite as satisfied practicing with a 22 l.r.
I could burn through a small fortune hunting with either of those two rifles. Incidentally, I like having two rifles that overlap, just in case something goes wrong with one of them. The 270 is a little lighter and is better to carry in very rough country. The big seven is the choice where long shots are more likely to occur. Have shot about 300 head of big game with the two. No problems!
Posted By: Coyote_Hunter Re: Three Rifles - 10/08/13
Originally Posted by 10generation

Calibers are the question.
I'm sure one will be a .260 or 6.5x55 - love the 6.5, covers all deer, hog, etc. needs. I have a .260 now. Like the history of the 6.5x55.

Next is a .30 cal - will either be 30-06 or 300 H&H. Leaning 30-06 because the more I shoot one, the more I feel it fits a great balance of recoil, effectiveness, large supply of available ammo. Like the H&H over the win mag because of history and tradition. I own one of each.

Lastly is an africa rifle. Specifically, buffalo. Don't think I will ever go after any other dangerous game. Thinking .375 or .404. Don't have one of these.

What would you do?


The older I get the more I appreciate light recoiling rifles, which is why my .257 Roberts is my favorite. 75g for varmints, 100-110g for antelope, 120g A-Frames for combined deer/elk season. A .260 would fill the bill as well.

There is nothing I hunt that my 7mm RM can�t handle easily � as it proved in 20+ years of hunting elk. That said, I have exactly one 7mm RM and four .30-06s�

An Africa rifle isn�t something I�ll ever need and I doubt Alaska or Canada for moose or bear is in my future, either. If I do decide to go north my .338WM or .45-70 will do fine for any critter I might run across.

That said, having just three rifles would suck.
Posted By: smokepole Re: Three Rifles - 10/08/13
Originally Posted by ingwe
This is what I did do when I was hunting a lot of big game.

7x57
.300H&H
.375H&H


The museum called. They want their guns back.......
Posted By: jwall Re: Three Rifles - 10/08/13
Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by ingwe
This is what I did do when I was hunting a lot of big game.

7x57
.300H&H
.375H&H


The museum called. They want their guns back.......


laugh laugh laugh If they haven't, they WILL. smile

Posted By: rta48 Re: Three Rifles - 10/08/13
My world consist of North America. I once had a burning desire to see Africa, no longer. For my needs the following works just fine.

223/223AI Factory fodder shoots great in my AI'd guns, so for
243/243AI me its the best of both world's.

7MMRM - I once would have said 270 and would still be satisfied but I have come to love the .284
Posted By: TexasPhotog Re: Three Rifles - 10/08/13
Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by ingwe
This is what I did do when I was hunting a lot of big game.

7x57
.300H&H
.375H&H


The museum called. They want their guns back.......


Ow! That was cold!
Posted By: 10generation Re: Three Rifles - 10/09/13
Thanks guys. All good ideas and opinions.
Posted By: RickF Re: Three Rifles - 10/11/13
My money where my mouth is...

For hunting in BC, I ended up with these three CRF M70s.

L-R: 6mm Rem, 7 Mashburn Super, 358 Norma.

The 6mm Rem is a 1947 M70 transition action. Blackburn bottom metal, Brux #3 SS 8-twist 24" barrel, Legend Edge stock. The metal is Gunkoted to resemble a matte blue finish. A 3.5-10X40 matte CDS in low DDs. With the #3 barrel it weighs 8 pounds 11 oz.

The Mashburn is a virtual copy of BobinNH's baby. M70 Classic action with Wisner extractor and Williams bottom metal. Pre-64 trigger, follower and mag spring. Custom bolt handle. Krieger #2 9-twist 24" barrel, Legend Edge stock. A 3.5-10X40 matte B&C in low DDs. It weighs 8 pounds 5 oz.

The 358 Norma is a M70 Classic Stainless action with Williams extractor. Slimmed bottom metal, pre-64 follower and mag spring. Pac-Nor 12 twist barrel. Legend standard fill stock. It used to be a 24" barrel, I had it shortened to 22 1/2". Lost about 50 fps, but it feels better in the thick stuff. A 1.75-6X32 with Premier Reticles #4 reticle. 8 pounds 7 oz.

To make it complete a guy really needs a 223 on the bottom end. But I have no intentions to try and "improve" on these three.

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Posted By: bsa1917hunter Re: Three Rifles - 10/12/13
Awesome, awesome and more of the same!!!! I love your taste in rifles!!
Posted By: bsa1917hunter Re: Three Rifles - 10/12/13
Originally Posted by 10generation
I know this topic has been discussed in various forums many times, so apologies if some feel its redundant. That said, I think much of what is written on the campfire is redundant, because we like discussing it...

I've been acquiring rifles for a while and I notice that I have my favorites that get used and a few that are unscoped and will likely live in the safe.

As many have done, I'm thinking of selling the ones that don't get used so I can just get a few that I really, really, like.

I'm thinking I want three rifles. Once I get the core battery, I might go back to getting more (because its fun) but I'm leaning toward refocusing my dollars into three.

Calibers are the question.

I'm sure one will be a .260 or 6.5x55 - love the 6.5, covers all deer, hog, etc. needs. I have a .260 now. Like the history of the 6.5x55.

Next is a .30 cal - will either be 30-06 or 300 H&H. Leaning 30-06 because the more I shoot one, the more I feel it fits a great balance of recoil, effectiveness, large supply of available ammo. Like the H&H over the win mag because of history and tradition. I own one of each.

Lastly is an africa rifle. Specifically, buffalo. Don't think I will ever go after any other dangerous game. Thinking .375 or .404. Don't have one of these.

What would you do?




I love your question and like Ingwe's answer as well. Nothing wrong with his suggestions. I say since you like the 6.5x55, have one built off of a pre 64 or classic model 70 action. Sounds like you've pretty much decided on the 30-06 for its effectiveness and versatility so find a nice pre 64 fwt like I did. The big rifle you want is a 375 H&H: Excellent choice in cartridge and I also suggest going old school cool and sticking with a pre 64 model 70 and keep it "all original". Don't get much cooler than that in my opinion wink. I'll be back with pictures grin
Posted By: leomort Re: Three Rifles - 10/12/13
Ok, I'll try to play too. A lot of interesting and good answers.

I chose mine based on the criteria of ubiquity, and relatively cheap to shoot & reload thus choose:

LH Ruger Hawkeye in 308Win as my general purpose all around hunting rifle.

My second is LH Ruger Hawkeye in 223rem as I like to practice with something that has enough recoil and blast to simulate firing my hunting rifles just as RinB suggest.

Both configurations base of same short action and same style/model rifle makes them very good interchangeable choices IMHO.


Since I doubt I'll ever get to hunt Africa or Alaska, not sure what I'd pick as my third rifle. But would want keep my LH CZ 452 American in 22lr.

If counting only center fire rifles, perhaps another 308 win as back up rifle seems to make sense.
Posted By: bsa1917hunter Re: Three Rifles - 10/12/13
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Posted By: BobinNH Re: Three Rifles - 10/12/13
Originally Posted by RickF
My money where my mouth is...

For hunting in BC, I ended up with these three CRF M70s.

L-R: 6mm Rem, 7 Mashburn Super, 358 Norma.

The 6mm Rem is a 1947 M70 transition action. Blackburn bottom metal, Brux #3 SS 8-twist 24" barrel, Legend Edge stock. The metal is Gunkoted to resemble a matte blue finish. A 3.5-10X40 matte CDS in low DDs. With the #3 barrel it weighs 8 pounds 11 oz.

The Mashburn is a virtual copy of BobinNH's baby. M70 Classic action with Wisner extractor and Williams bottom metal. Pre-64 trigger, follower and mag spring. Custom bolt handle. Krieger #2 9-twist 24" barrel, Legend Edge stock. A 3.5-10X40 matte B&C in low DDs. It weighs 8 pounds 5 oz.

The 358 Norma is a M70 Classic Stainless action with Williams extractor. Slimmed bottom metal, pre-64 follower and mag spring. Pac-Nor 12 twist barrel. Legend standard fill stock. It used to be a 24" barrel, I had it shortened to 22 1/2". Lost about 50 fps, but it feels better in the thick stuff. A 1.75-6X32 with Premier Reticles #4 reticle. 8 pounds 7 oz.

To make it complete a guy really needs a 223 on the bottom end. But I have no intentions to try and "improve" on these three.

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Rick those are slick! wink

bsa nice trio! smile
Posted By: raybass Re: Three Rifles - 10/12/13
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
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Simplicity at its finest, with the right load combinations and aligning sight ins it can be easy. Pick any one up and go huntin'.
Posted By: KDK Re: Three Rifles - 10/12/13
Originally Posted by RickF
My money where my mouth is...

For hunting in BC, I ended up with these three CRF M70s.

L-R: 6mm Rem, 7 Mashburn Super, 358 Norma.

The 6mm Rem is a 1947 M70 transition action. Blackburn bottom metal, Brux #3 SS 8-twist 24" barrel, Legend Edge stock. The metal is Gunkoted to resemble a matte blue finish. A 3.5-10X40 matte CDS in low DDs. With the #3 barrel it weighs 8 pounds 11 oz.

The Mashburn is a virtual copy of BobinNH's baby. M70 Classic action with Wisner extractor and Williams bottom metal. Pre-64 trigger, follower and mag spring. Custom bolt handle. Krieger #2 9-twist 24" barrel, Legend Edge stock. A 3.5-10X40 matte B&C in low DDs. It weighs 8 pounds 5 oz.

The 358 Norma is a M70 Classic Stainless action with Williams extractor. Slimmed bottom metal, pre-64 follower and mag spring. Pac-Nor 12 twist barrel. Legend standard fill stock. It used to be a 24" barrel, I had it shortened to 22 1/2". Lost about 50 fps, but it feels better in the thick stuff. A 1.75-6X32 with Premier Reticles #4 reticle. 8 pounds 7 oz.

To make it complete a guy really needs a 223 on the bottom end. But I have no intentions to try and "improve" on these three.

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Damn nice setup! I'd love to do a 6mm in an M70...
Posted By: ColoWyoMan Re: Three Rifles - 10/12/13
222 Rem
30-06
35 Whelen

A ton of 4198 and two tons of lead would contribute to setting me up for the rest of my life.



Posted By: kutenay Re: Three Rifles - 10/12/13
Sometimes, these querys can be difficult and there are many excellent choices, depending on one's finances, shooting ability and where/what/when you will hunt.

I have had the chance to go to Africa, didn't, just not enthralled by all the hoopla of that type of hunting. I have/had friends from there from a boy at the time of "Mau Mau" in Kenya, to the present and have received invitations to hunt, but, I am really only interested in northern and western Canadian hunting, so, with that in mind, here are some combos that I would choose, were I to sell 29 of my rifles and keep just three.....WHAT a GHASTLY thot! smile

1.Dakota 76-.338WM, "Hill Country" McMillan stock, custom banded irons and rear Talley, Talley QDs, Leupy 1.75xg MHD. This rifle weighs a bit over 8 lbs., is EXTREMELY accurate and will put my "max." handloads of BOTH the 250 NP and the 250 Horn. IL into the same .7ish groups at 100M. It is finely balanced, the BEST of the "Mod. 70" type, especially in it's excellent breeching, similar to the original "Patterne 98" actions made for RIMMED cartridges and the work was done by Martini Gunmakers, need I say more?

The "downside" is that it would cost $11,000+ to replace and while I did not pay that, being a fair hand at finding "deals" on fine guns, ( I bought this new in spring, 1994), that is too much for most hunters. But, I have found in obtaining a gun collection, now seriously diminished by recent selling as I am too old, a bit "bunged up" and my wife has been ill for 3+ years, so keeping the 50+ mostly highend guns I had at the beginning of 2010, is rather foolish, that one CAN find and buy many of one's "dream guns" if you REALLY want to and it has been a lot of fun to do so.

2. Classic STS Mod. 70-.338WM, with some of the necessary mods one should do on these very sound actions, again by Martini's, in a basic, older and oft-used Micky Fwt. "standard fill" handle, Brockman-Talley, old, as new B&L 4x40 scope and Marble's "Sourdough" front. I love the .338WM and this is one of my half dozen "truck guns" for harsh uses in BC's usually crappy, wet weather. It does EXACTLY what I built it to do and I don't care if I drop it, a horse rolls on it or it gets left in a damp tent wet for a time as I am too tired, sick or just delayed to look after it.

3. I found, actually my "best" buddy who used to post here, did, THE smoothest, slickest and so "NICE", 1946 "Transition" P-64 action. I installed an ordinary "salvage" Classic STS Fwt. .270Win. bbl, Talleys, Brockman, front ramp/Sourdough and then, my buddy sold me a Micky Edge MKX style Edge blank INLETTED for the P-64 Fwt. that he had ordered from Rick here.

This, is one of the best fitting synthetics FOR ME and I had "brno 284" who posts here and does fine, fine work on synthetics, install it. GAWD, I LOVE this and while I also have 2 fine original P-64 Fwt-.270s, this is, of the 12 or so, .270s I have now owned, my alltime favourite. It wears a Swaro Z3 and it shoots my favourite .270 load of the 150NP over enough RE-22 to get 2900 at the muzzle of the 22" bbl.

So, for ME, this is my probable first choice, but, I have other pairs, trios and combos, as we totally obsessed gunaholics tend to do, so, maybe I might choose a different set next time! smile
Posted By: pointer Re: Three Rifles - 10/12/13
Originally Posted by RickF
My money where my mouth is...

For hunting in BC, I ended up with these three CRF M70s.

L-R: 6mm Rem, 7 Mashburn Super, 358 Norma.

The 6mm Rem is a 1947 M70 transition action. Blackburn bottom metal, Brux #3 SS 8-twist 24" barrel, Legend Edge stock. The metal is Gunkoted to resemble a matte blue finish. A 3.5-10X40 matte CDS in low DDs. With the #3 barrel it weighs 8 pounds 11 oz.

The Mashburn is a virtual copy of BobinNH's baby. M70 Classic action with Wisner extractor and Williams bottom metal. Pre-64 trigger, follower and mag spring. Custom bolt handle. Krieger #2 9-twist 24" barrel, Legend Edge stock. A 3.5-10X40 matte B&C in low DDs. It weighs 8 pounds 5 oz.

The 358 Norma is a M70 Classic Stainless action with Williams extractor. Slimmed bottom metal, pre-64 follower and mag spring. Pac-Nor 12 twist barrel. Legend standard fill stock. It used to be a 24" barrel, I had it shortened to 22 1/2". Lost about 50 fps, but it feels better in the thick stuff. A 1.75-6X32 with Premier Reticles #4 reticle. 8 pounds 7 oz.

To make it complete a guy really needs a 223 on the bottom end. But I have no intentions to try and "improve" on these three.

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I like that lineup alot! However, I really, really liked your 280AI!
Posted By: BobinNH Re: Three Rifles - 10/12/13
Originally Posted by pointer
Originally Posted by RickF
My money where my mouth is...

For hunting in BC, I ended up with these three CRF M70s.

L-R: 6mm Rem, 7 Mashburn Super, 358 Norma.

The 6mm Rem is a 1947 M70 transition action. Blackburn bottom metal, Brux #3 SS 8-twist 24" barrel, Legend Edge stock. The metal is Gunkoted to resemble a matte blue finish. A 3.5-10X40 matte CDS in low DDs. With the #3 barrel it weighs 8 pounds 11 oz.

The Mashburn is a virtual copy of BobinNH's baby. M70 Classic action with Wisner extractor and Williams bottom metal. Pre-64 trigger, follower and mag spring. Custom bolt handle. Krieger #2 9-twist 24" barrel, Legend Edge stock. A 3.5-10X40 matte B&C in low DDs. It weighs 8 pounds 5 oz.

The 358 Norma is a M70 Classic Stainless action with Williams extractor. Slimmed bottom metal, pre-64 follower and mag spring. Pac-Nor 12 twist barrel. Legend standard fill stock. It used to be a 24" barrel, I had it shortened to 22 1/2". Lost about 50 fps, but it feels better in the thick stuff. A 1.75-6X32 with Premier Reticles #4 reticle. 8 pounds 7 oz.

To make it complete a guy really needs a 223 on the bottom end. But I have no intentions to try and "improve" on these three.

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I like that lineup alot! However, I really, really liked your 280AI!


pointer, there is a 280AI in that picture.....it's the FF loads for the Mashburn. smile wink
Posted By: xverminator Re: Three Rifles - 10/15/13
I have no plans to hunt Africa at this point in my life, so I'll throw out three that have served me well throughout North America.......

Top to bottom:
.223AI
.350 Rem Mag
.257 Wby
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I think the only thing I'd change with my 3 gun battery would be a .264 Win Mag in favor of the .257 Wby. As soon as the barrel goes, that is exactly what this .257 will become. With the 223 AI covering paws and the .350 claws, the .264 should be "magic" on all of NA's hooved animals....................


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Posted By: Fifth Re: Three Rifles - 10/15/13
6.5-06
300 WSM
358 Norma

If you don't reload or prefer some other nostalgic combo then:

270 win
300 H&H/WM
375 H&H
Posted By: bsa1917hunter Re: Three Rifles - 10/16/13
Originally Posted by Fifth
6.5-06
300 WSM
358 Norma

If you don't reload or prefer some other nostalgic combo then:

270 win
300 H&H/WM
375 H&H


Fifth, usually we agree on things. I like your second list, but my 300 is a WSM blush...I'd like to have a 300 H&H to show off, but such is not the case. However, I do have the 270 and 375 H&h to go with the 300 wink...:

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Posted By: Mule Deer Re: Three Rifles - 10/16/13
.223 Remington
.30-06
.375 H&H
Posted By: Biggs300 Re: Three Rifles - 10/16/13
25-06 Rem
300 WM
9.3x62 Mauser

If I could add a 4th, it would be a .358 Win; probably the favorite of all my rifles.
Posted By: Brad Re: Three Rifles - 10/16/13
22lr, and two 308's.

That's all I need or really want.
Posted By: SLM Re: Three Rifles - 10/16/13
22lr, 243,308.
Posted By: colodog Re: Three Rifles - 10/16/13
.260 Rem
300 WSM
416Taylor

Why be normal!
Posted By: 338rcm Re: Three Rifles - 10/16/13
223
260
338
Posted By: BobinNH Re: Three Rifles - 10/16/13
Originally Posted by Mule Deer
.223 Remington
.30-06
.375 H&H


It'll make the rifle loonies fit to be tied, but have to admit....this is "it". smile
Posted By: Blackheart Re: Three Rifles - 10/16/13
for my uses I would have picked .22LR,.223 and .30-30 but since .22LR ammo became extinct I'll take a .223, .243 and .30-30 and use a good pellet rifle for practice/plinking.
Posted By: Tom264 Re: Three Rifles - 10/16/13
.270
.270
.270


There that should get the ball rolling.
Posted By: bsa1917hunter Re: Three Rifles - 10/16/13
Originally Posted by Tom264
.270
.270
.270


There that should get the ball rolling.



My balls are rolling. You going to come pick them up for me you nut licker.. whistle
Posted By: Tom264 Re: Three Rifles - 10/16/13
Should I bring my microscope again?
Posted By: czsharpshooter Re: Three Rifles - 10/16/13
223
7x57AI
338 mag of some flavor
Posted By: BobinNH Re: Three Rifles - 10/16/13
Originally Posted by Tom264
.270
.270
.270


There that should get the ball rolling.


Tom were you stuttering? grin
Posted By: tzone Re: Three Rifles - 10/16/13
Originally Posted by gunner500
22 LR
308 Winchester
375 H&H

Gunner


I don't think you could round it out any better than that!
Posted By: Mule Deer Re: Three Rifles - 10/16/13
Bob,

Many rifle loonies don't realize that a .223 (or even a .220 Swift) can be handloaded with cast bullets to duplicate a .22 Long Rifle or .22 Magnum--and more cheaply than the cost of .22 rimfire ammo these days.

Of course, rimfire ammo is more compact, allowing a hunter to carry more. If that's a big consideration the .22 Hornet can also be loaded the same way, and when loaded full-power with today's powders is a 300-yard varmint round.
Posted By: Fifth Re: Three Rifles - 10/16/13
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
I do have the 270 and 375 H&h to go with the 300 wink...:



cool I always like looking at your guns. The stock on the PBR is just plain awesome.
Posted By: RevMike Re: Three Rifles - 10/16/13
[quote=Mule Deer]Bob,

Many rifle loonies don't realize that a .223 (or even a .220 Swift) can be handloaded with cast bullets to duplicate a .22 Long Rifle or .22 Magnum--and more cheaply than the cost of .22 rimfire ammo these days.

That's a good point. And not only cheaper but actually available.
Posted By: BobinNH Re: Three Rifles - 10/16/13
John that never entered my mind....true enough!

My comment was along the lines that the three cartridges are too common, reliable, and effective in their class to get the rifle loonies all excited. smile

I agree with the choices completely.
Posted By: cdb Re: Three Rifles - 10/16/13
.22 WMR
6.5x55
.30-06

If my dream of hunting Africa ever comes true I will start a new post with my changes.
Posted By: EricM Re: Three Rifles - 10/16/13
This is where I'm at:

243 Win shooting 95 gr Fusions
30-06 shooting 150 gr TTSX
375 H&H shooting 260 gr ABs

Eric
Posted By: bsa1917hunter Re: Three Rifles - 10/16/13
Originally Posted by EricM
This is where I'm at:

243 Win shooting 95 gr Fusions
30-06 shooting 150 gr TTSX
375 H&H shooting 260 gr ABs

Eric



Sounds like a winning trio right there..
Posted By: bsa1917hunter Re: Three Rifles - 10/16/13
Originally Posted by Fifth
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
I do have the 270 and 375 H&h to go with the 300 wink...:



cool I always like looking at your guns. The stock on the PBR is just plain awesome.



Thanks buddy. However, I actually sold my great shooting FN PBR XP to gunnut308. That rifle in the middle is my 2008 limited with a 300 wsm extreme weather barrel screwed on. It's a damn good shooter too..
Posted By: Brad Re: Three Rifles - 10/16/13
Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Bob,

Many rifle loonies don't realize that a .223 (or even a .220 Swift) can be handloaded with cast bullets to duplicate a .22 Long Rifle or .22 Magnum--and more cheaply than the cost of .22 rimfire ammo these days.

Of course, rimfire ammo is more compact, allowing a hunter to carry more. If that's a big consideration the .22 Hornet can also be loaded the same way, and when loaded full-power with today's powders is a 300-yard varmint round.


But it begs the question, who in their right mind would want to handload for the volume of shooting a 22lr encompasses?
Posted By: BurninDupont Re: Three Rifles - 10/16/13
Originally Posted by xverminator
I have no plans to hunt Africa at this point in my life, so I'll throw out three that have served me well throughout North America.......

Top to bottom:
.223AI
.350 Rem Mag
.257 Wby
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I think the only thing I'd change with my 3 gun battery would be a .264 Win Mag in favor of the .257 Wby. As soon as the barrel goes, that is exactly what this .257 will become. With the 223 AI covering paws and the .350 claws, the .264 should be "magic" on all of NA's hooved animals....................


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Dude those are some pretty azz rifles right there. Really my style.

Would you mind posting the specs on them?

Thanks a lot!
Posted By: kutenay Re: Three Rifles - 10/16/13
+1, I like the middle one, a .350RM? This is on a Classic-70 action and what else? I have quite a few rifles that look much like this,mostly .338WM and 9.3x62s.
Posted By: Wrongside Re: Three Rifles - 10/17/13
Originally Posted by BobinNH
Originally Posted by Mule Deer
.223 Remington
.30-06
.375 H&H


It'll make the rifle loonies fit to be tied, but have to admit....this is "it". smile

That is basically where I've ended up... 'cept my 375 is the Ruger version.

The 223 is a 8 twist, cause shooting those little 75 Amaxes at long ranges is just way too much fun.

The 30-06 is just all business, sees 90% of the action and is beat up. McMillan stocked M70- of course. wink

And the 375Ruger Alaskanish is just cause no one else has made us southpaws such a handy little SS cannon...

I'd be way happier to have the option of a fourth rifle. It would be a 6MM in a M70 FW w/ McM Compact EDGE.
Posted By: xverminator Re: Three Rifles - 10/17/13
Originally Posted by kutenay
+1, I like the middle one, a .350RM? This is on a Classic-70 action and what else? I have quite a few rifles that look much like this,mostly .338WM and 9.3x62s.


.223 AI
Rem 700 factory sporter re chambered. 1-12" twist.
McMillan Mountain Rifle (BDL) 50% dark gray, 25% yellow, 25% black
Pictured with factory bottom metal but usually wears Gen 1 HS detatchable bottom metal that is currently off getting coated.
Shilen trigger
Graphite black cerekote
Talley LW's
Leupold VX-III 3.5x10x40 w/M1 elevation installed

Despite the 12 twist it shoots 65gr Gamekings sub 1/2 moa.........

.350 Rem Mag
SS Win 70 Classic CRF.
20" Lilja SS #3 12" twist.
NECG Masterpiece front and rear irons.
Rifle Basix trigger.
McMillan Compact Swirly 34% dark gray, 33% black, 33% white
Tungsten Cerekote
Leupold VX-III 1.5x5X20
Talley QD rings w/levers coated graphite black.

Shoots 200gr TTSX's into a ragged hole, 200 and 225gr Accubonds only slightly worse.

.257 WBY
Stiller Predator LA coated graphite black. Bolt and handle are titanum, the flutes were polished out and Campfire knob added.
Jewell trigger.
Lilja SS #3 3 groove 10 twist fluted by Karl and crowned at 25".
Kampfeld lug.
Talley LW's coated titanium.
6x42 FX-III w/M1 elevation
McMillan Sporter (BDL) 50% black, 50% orange

Shoots everything I've tried under MOA but it really likes 100 TTSX's, 110 Accubonds, 100gr Scirrocos, and 115 B-tips. Currently shooting the B-tips....


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Posted By: SamOlson Re: Three Rifles - 10/17/13
Originally Posted by 10generation
I know this topic has been discussed in various forums many times, so apologies if some feel its redundant. That said, I think much of what is written on the campfire is redundant, because we like discussing it...

I've been acquiring rifles for a while and I notice that I have my favorites that get used and a few that are unscoped and will likely live in the safe.

As many have done, I'm thinking of selling the ones that don't get used so I can just get a few that I really, really, like.

I'm thinking I want three rifles. Once I get the core battery, I might go back to getting more (because its fun) but I'm leaning toward refocusing my dollars into three.

Calibers are the question.

I'm sure one will be a .260 or 6.5x55 - love the 6.5, covers all deer, hog, etc. needs. I have a .260 now. Like the history of the 6.5x55.

Next is a .30 cal - will either be 30-06 or 300 H&H. Leaning 30-06 because the more I shoot one, the more I feel it fits a great balance of recoil, effectiveness, large supply of available ammo. Like the H&H over the win mag because of history and tradition. I own one of each.

Lastly is an africa rifle. Specifically, buffalo. Don't think I will ever go after any other dangerous game. Thinking .375 or .404. Don't have one of these.

What would you do?








Kimber Montana 243

Remington ADL 270

Sako A7 300 WSM


If limited to 3.

Local use.


Posted By: BurninDupont Re: Three Rifles - 10/17/13
Thanks verm those are some beauties for sure. I will have 2 to post soon!
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