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Should breath a bit of life back into the 8mm Mauser for a few people...

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Very interesting.
Yes very interesting thanks for posting
Sweet, a varmint bullet for the 8!
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Sweet, a varmint bullet for the 8!

Just what people who shoot deer with a .223 need for the off season!
Finally managed to find a box.

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Looks like it would do just fine in a .325WSM!
Originally Posted by Esox357
Looks like it would do just fine in a .325WSM!


Agree..........

Maybe, just maybe, instead of designing new bullets for defunct calibers, Hornady should try producing the bullets on their suspension list?
I be loading it in the 8x57mm
Originally Posted by prairie_goat
Maybe, just maybe, instead of designing new bullets for defunct calibers, Hornady should try producing the bullets on their suspension list?


Kinda had the same thought...
Originally Posted by Paulh
I be loading it in the 8x57mm

Would be keen to hear how it works out.
Just received my Rem 700 from Douglas Barrels. Its got a new Heavy Carbine barrel in 8x57, sort of my Southeastern Sendero.



The 170 grain will be perfect for Whitetails...



I use to run the 195 gr. Interlock for the woods @ about 2200fps. , but often thought that it was too tough @ that speed. Went back to the Interlock 170 RN @ 2500fps. For years I ran Speers, Sierras, Corelocts,& various Factories. Before the internet, I never knew that I had a problem. Think I'll stick with the RN.
Steelie - What do you run in your 8mm?
180gr TSX or 196gr Oryx
Originally Posted by Esox357
Looks like it would do just fine in a .325WSM!




Even on elk?
Been pleased with the 180 gr Ballistic Tip.
Measures 1.254"

170 grain Hornady SST between a 150 Hornady (L) and 180 Nosler (R)


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Cool, mine should be here tomorrow.

I've killed a dozen or so deer with the 180 grain Ballistic Tip, they work like a champ. The Hornady 150 gr kills good to but has a sucky BC.
Originally Posted by Fotis
Originally Posted by Esox357
Looks like it would do just fine in a .325WSM!




Even on elk?


Sure why not? If that was the only bullet I had in my rifle at the time and an elk tag in my pocket.....I'm sure it would reach the vitals. Heck the 162 grain SST in .284 is supposed to be a tough bullet and reported African game taken with it. Don't imagine this wouldn't work, I was thinking more in line for hog, deer, bullet but wouldn't pass up an elk if it is what I had in the gun. I think this offers a lighter weight bullet to compete with the standard rifle calibers?
With a short bearing surface like that those 170 gr SST's should be capable of impressive velocity. Great picture.
Some measurements in my rifles.

OAL (contacting lands)
M70 3.156
M700 3.174

Bullet seated to bottom of cannelure: 3.052 OAL (.286 of bullet being gripped. Measured from top of boat tail.)

Base of bullet to the beginning of case neck: 3.13 OAL (leaves .192 gripped by the neck.

Thanks for the 8x57 info!


Dissected a few 8mm bullets today. I'll shoot some water jugs when the bottom metal arrives for my Remington. And then a few deer in October.


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SST, Kurz, Ballistic Tip




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180 Nosler, 170 Hornady, 125 Hornady, 150 Hornday, 170 SST, 150 Sierra



The 170 SST should make a nice 8x57 deer bullet.

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Both the SST and the Ballistic Tip look very nice. The SST should be an excellent bullet for deer sized game.
Great post Chrome!
Getting to be more and more good 8mm bullets, tho my favorite is still the 175 Sierra Pro Hunter. 2830 with 4320 in my Classic.
I`ve also used the 175 grn Privi with excellent results on WT`s.
Will try a box, if I can get some from Graff`s.
I've seen a few SST bombs and I can't get all warm and fuzzy over an 8mm version, but you boys enjoy.
That they are�but I could push these to close to 3k in my 8mm AI. A great jug load..
Originally Posted by Steelhead
I've seen a few SST bombs and I can't get all warm and fuzzy over an 8mm version, but you boys enjoy.


Same here.

I flat out won't use an SST on big game. They are perfectly suitable for prairie dogs and coyotes, though.
Originally Posted by prairie_goat
Originally Posted by Steelhead
I've seen a few SST bombs and I can't get all warm and fuzzy over an 8mm version, but you boys enjoy.


Same here.

I flat out won't use an SST on big game. They are perfectly suitable for prairie dogs and coyotes, though.


Well PG,
something we agree on. LOL

I've found the SST's to be more frangible than I like.

I use the 180 gr. Nosler Ballistic Tip and the 200 gr. Accubond in my dark-thirty hog thumper. At 2,850 FPS they work.

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Best,


GWB
I've used heaps of SSTs mainly on pigs and of late mainly the 150g out of the 270 Win. I usually shoot for shoulder and haven't had one fail to penetrate or kill reliably.

And I am talking hundreds of pigs in the last few years.

I agree however that the Nosler Ballistic Tips in like for like comparison are generally tougher.
You're probably way ahead of me on head count.

My tally over the past 15 years or so would probably be around 400 give or take. I used to keep a journal of everything I shot, what caliber, load, distance and date, too lazy now.

My shot of preference is about two inches below the ear on a line between the ear and shoulder. If I do that it severs the spine, they drop and paddle. Where I hunt it's quite dense.

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If they are not DRT, especially at dark-thirty you generally don't find them unless you have hounds, which I don't.

I think a lot is personal preference. In the 17's 20's and 22's' I have and continue to use Hornady's.

In the 6MM up I tend to use Nosler.

Over the last several years I've been using more and more Accubonds.

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Ballistic tips are my go to in the 130/.277, 180/8mm, 200gr Ballistic S/T/338 for hoglets, but I still load and shoot a few others...


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Best,

GWB

I just use Sierra 150 Gr and 47-48 grains of H4895 in my Mauser rifle,bout 2700 fps and kills whitetails (100-250 pounds)just fine at ranges from 10-250 yards .
Originally Posted by Chrome
Thanks for the 8x57 info!


Dissected a few 8mm bullets today. I'll shoot some water jugs when the bottom metal arrives for my Remington. And then a few deer in October.


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SST, Kurz, Ballistic Tip



Super pic. The first time I've seen a cross sectional comparison with the 180NBT. That thing is a brute. I'm thinking that it would have no problems with elk at 2600-2650 fps.
The BT is a bit 'brutish' not the SST
The BT is tough in the bottom. Killed several smaller doe with them (double lung). They open quick with DRT.

I'm going to run the 170 gr SST out of a 20" barreled 700, shouldn't push it to hard, heck I'm going to drill a few with the 125 gr HP...
That 180 grain BT is one evil looking mo fo.
Originally Posted by Chrome
The BT is tough in the bottom. Killed several smaller doe with them (double lung). They open quick with DRT.

I'm going to run the 170 gr SST out of a 20" barreled 700, shouldn't push it to hard, heck I'm going to drill a few with the 125 gr HP...


Yeah I bet the 125 grain would kill them as well.
I was just looking for a load that wouldn,t kick to much and replicate the 300 savage ballistics and that load does it.
I also killed a few with the PRVI 196 grain soft factorY load and while it does kill it gives up way too much expansion for penetration.
think shoot in chest find in butt.
The Sierras on the other hand will exit on a 10 yard shoulder shot and still expand great past 250 yards which is the farthest I have them so far.
Originally Posted by prairie_goat
Maybe, just maybe, instead of designing new bullets for defunct calibers, Hornady should try producing the bullets on their suspension list?


No fk'n [bleep], so 8mm is at a higher demand than .243, .223 and .784........idjits!
I agree they should produce bullets for you boring vanilla guys.
i dunno...after the 195 sp and 196 bthp the 170 sst is kind of anticlimatic.
170 is probably perfect for those who are running one of those real old Mausers that you need to keep pressures low, and still want a decent velocity of around 2500+ fps.

Originally Posted by Steelhead
Sweet, a varmint bullet for the 8!


my first thought exactly....:-)
Don't currently run an 8, but have played with the Mauser and Rem Mag a little bit in the past. The 180 BT would be a hands down choice for me.

It would be a great varmint bullet in the big eight though. The PD's would probably end up in the next county.

SST's are just a little to soft for my liking in the 270, can't imagine it being much better in the 8.

170 grain with 49 grains of varget hits to POA with a couple of my old mausers (including a BRNO 21h) and is super accurate as well. Shoots right thru small south eastern deer.
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