I am planning on building a rifle. I am wanting a 300 ultra mag. Thinking about getting a Rem 700 action. A broughton barrel, Jewel trigger and a muzzle brake.

I am wanting a Mcmillan stock. But can't decide on which one with out using them. The ones that I have my eye on are the A 3 edge, A3 sporter, and the HTG. Any input?

I am building this rifle for hunting.

General Hunting + big recoil and long barrel = Echols Legend (now available for M700)

What contour? Beings you cited (3) handles that'll eat some spout,I reckon you are in #5 or so Mode?

The Rem Hunter is a nice way to fly and will eat a #8.

Uppermost.



Lose the long barrel,[bleep] the brake and the Jewell.

Hint.

And the Ultra....hint hint....

Yea I am thinking a #5. I was looking at the Broughton 5C barrel

Im pretty stuck on the 300 Ultra. So don't think I would change my mind on that.

aalf,

Refreshing to converse with someone,who just might shoot a smidge.(grin)

You KNEW the chambering was next,then action length and of course a boolit query,along with proposed application.

Has Montucky written all over it.(grin)










'white,

Let's do it this way and cut to the [bleep] chase and getcha' to water,which I can easily arrange. What you do after getting there,is on you.

1) What do you think the application for the proposed rifle,is gonna be?
2) Why the chambering? Have you ever shot it before(if so,which boolits) and in extrapolation to what other chamberings/boolits?
3) What boolit(s) have you got in mind?
4) What glass/mounting system?
5) Do you Reload?
6) Whattya' shooting currently and how has it let you down?

Don't be in a hurry,to make bad decisions.

Hint.

Ok. Thanks for the help.

I will explain a little bit.

I think a Remington 700 is a good basic action. Open to other things i guess

I am wanting this gun as a do it all big game hunting rifle. Elk, deer, antelope, bear, etc. I want one round for all. Ability of shooting long range shots as well.

I like the 300 Ultra because I think it is a great round. I have researched it for awhile and have talked to alot of guys that reccomend it. I have a bunch of friends who use it and love it.

Planned on having a local gunsmith glass bed it

I have shot my buddies 300 Ultra that he built and it was sweet! I was getting the muzzle brake so that if my son or someone else wanted to use the rifle there would be less kick.

My father reloads so he would help me out with that.

I am a bowhunter. Pretty much strickly a bowhunter. But I have wanted to build a rifle for awhile. I have been saving my pennies for long time. Pretty much wanted to build a "custom" rifle to hunt big game for the rest of my life. Although I will prob bowhunt the rest of my life. haha Buy hey you can always have a gun!

I have a 300 rum in a mickey remington bdl pattern.
Like the stock alot.
I went thru the stock and awe phase with it.
This year, I went a different bullet, and slowed them down a bit.
Gettin tired of the blast and recoil.
Awesome cartridge. Made my longest kill with it, but I don't hunt that place anymore, and don't have a want for all that power anymore.

Think Im gonna rebarrel it to a 7 mag.

I hear good thangs about 700's,myself and I've seen a McMillan.

Your first "choice" for a rifle,is akin to a compound bow with 57" axle to axle,39" draw length,12% let-off and 163# draw,that'll eek 300fps. She's at best a Hay Bale & Crockett Queen,but in reality sooooooo many balls are dropped,it'll never see the light of day. Get da' peecture?!?(grin)

The faster you think boolits,the better of you'll be. Balance/handling trumps all and light done right,has no equal...just as in Archery. 'Nother Hint.

I savvy the appeal of building what ain't available,but have never been a proponent of building...just to build. It's always about boolits. Re-hint.

You'd do well to slow down and get some ducks in a row,before you are painted into a corner with a Goat [bleep]. The key to killing schit is Placement and the key to Placement is Practice. To reliably arrange GOOD Practice,you gotta keep schit fun. Just as you wouldn't fling many arrows,if after every shot,you got slapped upside your head,even if you had a SVL headband.(grin)

Less is just oh soooooooooooo much MORE,for a multitude of reasons.

Hint.

glad we see the same light boxer.

Sounds like a great project,

it will likely be in the classifieds a year after completion.

YMMV.

This isn't my 1st rifle. I own a few. I wanted to build a "long range gun." And have heard how great the 300 ultra is from a number of friends.

You were assuming your friends would actually admit that their .300U is pompous in all categorys?

Again, YMMV.

A friend of mine fell into the "300 mag for a one rifle, do it all" trap a while back. It got old pretty quick, and the set up he ran was handier than the one you're contemplating.

Your friends are wrong.

I don't think a #5 contour barrel and "all around rifle" could used in the same sentence with a straight face...

Again, YMMV.

Ok I give up. You guys win

Long range = what kind of yardage to you?

I have a custom 700 in 300 RUM..it's my elk stomper! It is made by John Lewis at Carolina Precision Rifles on a 700 action, Shilen match barrel and McMillan "700 BDL" stock. I love the stock as it is just a smidgen larger than an actual 700 BDL...just a hair. It is balanced very well and shoots a quarter inch with Nosler AB, or BT's and a half in with old recipe Trophy Bonded Bear Claws (My elk load). It originally had one of John's muzzle brakes on it,but I had him take it off and turn off the threads and re-crown. I hate muzzle brakes and this rifle was no exception...no one wanted to be anywhere near me when elk hunting with that instrument of Satan on the muzzle! I took it off and just put myself in the proper frame of mind when shooting it off the bench...when hunting, I never notice the recoil anyway.

Good luck with your project!

Saw the other posts and had to reply. The 300RUM is a fantastic, accurate, round regardless of what previous posters say....if you can handle the recoil, then go for it. A 300 WM is fantastic as well, but the RUM gives you a few more yards, and if that's important to you, well, there ya go...you got your answer. My longest kill with mine is a lasered 719 yards.

The only place a 300 RUM gives a few more yards over a 300 Win Mag is when it enters the transonic zone. Which is not a factor for this rifle anyway, so the RUM is a waste.

Hunter or Classic for a factory 700 7RM tube? Leaning Classic, but that Hunter has appeal. Looks like it's more suited for a heavier contour though.

'57,

I'm happy with a 22" 7-08,quite a ways beyond your 719...and that isn't because I don't have a Beeg Thirty.

700/Super/Classic...yada,yada.



Hint.









'goat,

The 300Winny isn't a horrible way to fly,especially in a 700,as they are throated nicely and their COAL latitude is more forgiving than the Ultra.

Having had 'em all and if forced to drive an increased capacity 30cal,it'd be a Montucky 300 Whizzum. It's a great blend of all the attributes,which actually bear fruit.

The Montucky 7 Whizzum,of course steals the [bleep] show.

Hint.










'bore,

That's Classic Country. I'd not go Rem Hunter until a #5 or greater. The Sako Hunter,is also a consideration up to a beeg #3.

Sako Hunters.

#3 Brux



#4 PN



Fluted #4 Krieger Hvy Sporter/Classic.

Something has really piqued my interest in this thread. I have very little claim to any expertise in hunting or shooting but have shot a little bit, not much though.
Boxer, aka Larry who is not shy about his excellence in things requiring masculine tendencies, posts over and over and over again about how important it is to have a rifle that is pleasant to shoot, ie, moderately recoiling. One of the rifles he touts highly is the 7/08, which is, strangely enough, very close to the recoil level the United States Army found to be the limits of men's recoil tolerance.
Now, in over twenty years of seeing a friend bring groups of people to Montana to deer and elk hunt, I have NEVER seen someone shooting a 300 Magnum go home with an elk. Never. Not once. The elk have gone home with the guys that bring rifles up to the 30/06 size. Now, these guys shoot a few deer, most of them does that field dress up to about 100 pounds. It's seldom that you see one shot kills on the does from the magnums.
I have other friends that carry magnums of one sort or another for elk hunting, also. One old timer shoots a 338, and he shoots it well. The last elk he killed that I was with, required three shots. All solid hits in the chest, and she wasn't going far. 210 Nosler Partition
Another friend has to use a 300 WSM. His record for killing elk with it is about 50%, and he doesn't shoot past 300 yards. Just some misses that can't be explained.
Have another friend from Bozeman that shoots a 7/08. He doesn't shoot much, a few rounds to sight in, and then whatever he shoots hunting. I don.t believe he has ever shot at an elk that wasn't adorned with his tag withing a few mimutes of being shot at.
Have another friend from Bozeman who does a lot of deer hunting with his daughter. They have killed over, way over 100 deer and antelope with the lowly 243 and 100 grain Hornady bullets. Has never ever had a problem killing either with the 243. He is a former sniper instructor and she used to compete in silhouette shooting. I used to go look at the animals they shot, but it got boring- Always one hole in behind the shoulder and another hole out on the other side.
Just a few observations-
And then I think back to my experience at sight in days at the range. If someone showed up with a 30/06, he might or might not be able to shoot it- some could, some couldn't- Almost always, those that showed up with 7 mags or bigger were going to be a problem.
So, there's three pieces of evidence that I am aware of that recoil matters a lot- Larry's experience, the research of the US Army, and my observations of an average og at least 6 hunters a year for twenty years, with my observations at sighting in day thrown in for good measure.
Maybe there is something to this recoil deal and it's relationship to being able to kill an animal.
Also, for those that say that recoil doesn't matter because they don't feel it when they are shooting at an animal, here are a couple of things to think about.
First of all, whether you feel the recoil or not has nothing to do with the flinch. If you had been around shooting even as little as I have, you would have picked up on the fact that flinches start BEFORE the recoil occurs, or can be felt. Flinching is a reflex action that can be fairly easily controlled when you are at the bench and can concentrate wholly on your shooting technique. If you have a tendency to flinch, when you get the least bit excited you are likely to flinch, even if you are shooting a 22. I know this, because when I worked in the gun store, we would amuse ourselves with the John Wayne type who always swore that "recoil doesn't bother me!"
We's check a rifle several times for safety, show them it was unloaded, and then have them dry fire it at the wall. Saw some really creative flinches there, with a totally non recoil rifle.
So, maybe, just maybe, there is something to this recoil thing

Appreciate the insight, as usual...




Anyone showing up to "sight in day" is pretty much a lost cause out of the blocks. Can't say I can tell the difference between a 7# '06 and 8-1/2# 7RM, except what's getting shoved in the chamber.


OP:

If you go WSM, here's a pile to get you started. I'll even throw in a few Scenars so you can see WTF.

Royce,

I was rather looking forward to '57 musing Ultra "particulars",as it was gonna get funnier than [bleep]...faster than [bleep].(grin) Though my fingers is still crossed,especially in regards to boolits/velocity,glass/mounts,etc.(grin)

Anywhoo...I've mentioned often,that I've seen farrrrrrrr more [bleep] up schit with Boomers,than I have .473" or .378" based stuff. As a constant,folks is typically wayyyyy over Cartridged and under Boolited,coupled with a platform that is a Goat [bleep] to boot and frosted nicely by never getting shot. Them things reliably do Placement no favors,which of course is THE best way to make easy things difficult,as a BEST case scenario. Good boolits,in good places,will reliably arrange GREAT things,as terminal affects go. Folks is curiously in a hurry,to [bleep] that up. I'll never savvy the approach.

You'll see folks here Dream up ALL sorts of reasons not to shoot,which is admittedly funnier than [bleep]. It's a curious constant,that them who fret "shooting out" a barrel,is the ones least capable/likely of doing same.(grin) FUNNY schit!

Proficiency cain't be purchased,and spent primers remain The SUPREME Tutorial. When one obtains a handy/dandy rifle of the Light Done Right variety,which is FUN to shoot...a whole 'lotta schit gets veddy veddy easy by default. It simply can go NO other way and them "odds",ain't tough to bank upon.

I can only lead folks to water...I cain't make 'em drink and would not,even if I could.(grin)

Hell,it's easy for me to say,I've got 'em all and I'm afforded the luxury of not being forced to guess.










16',

A Montucky Whizzum Skinner Slinger,would indeed be a veddy veddy nice ride.

I've oft wondered what one in 7 Whizzum would do,if stoked with 162's?!?

You boys just might talk me into a short action yet!(grin)

I know where are couple are, if you don't mind the paint jobs

Going Retro Remmie 162/22/250's, one bullet wonder.

A 300 ultra is a disaster for a new shooter. Get a 243 to start with and shoot a couple barrels out of it before going bigger IMO.
I have had several Ultras and currently own one. Its a great round, but takes alot of practice to master, not to mention the thing will flat wear you out physically and mentally in short order. It is also unforgiving in COL so options are limited if you want it to feed from the magazine. This isnt a huge deal, but does tend to increase the messing around it takes to get some bullets to shoot. However, it does stomp thn pretty hard when you can shoot it well.
The 300 win mag is a great round too, and I have one, but is also takes quit a bit of work to master, albeit less than an ultra.
Also from your conponent list it appears your building a pretty specialized rifle. Id rethink that as well

Funny about that.

Maybe not for everybody, but I sure like mine.

You only shoot dinks though.......lol

I could not agree more.

If you can handle the recoil and If it is built correctly with the right components you will never need anything else. I had a few in different configurations and all were very accurate.

14 years and counting hunting with a .300 RUM. If you want one, build one. mtmuley

It is an intellesting constant,that those who are typically swooned with the 300 Ultra and it's ilk Today,reliably "know" the least about rifles,boolits,glass,mounts,twist,throating,COAL latitude and the like. It is seemingly comfortable to many,to schlep long spouts,increase recoil,field schit balance/handling,add drop/drift and add noise,as a means of bragging rights for the "honor" of heavy concession. Funny schit!

Hopefully,some of 'em will feel obligated to wax eloquent on them particulars...though I'm more than a touch dubious.(grin)

Hell,mebbe Fotis will be [bleep] stupid enough to try and cite how to build one "correctly" and muse them particulars,along with a list of components. If she ain't still stumped with stock bedding and the "nuances" of floating a barrel.

Laffin'!

Boxer, my rifle balances well, I know the drop/drift, it ain't any more noisy than other magnums. It don't take a rocket scientist to load for the .300 RUM. The rifle didn't make my junk any bigger either. No "honor" anywhere. Or bragging. It's a great cartridge, hammers critters, and if a guy wants one or three, so what? After 14 years I "know" a bit about the .300 RUM and what it will do. "Knowing" about all the info you elude to applies to any cartridge. Just my thoughts. mtmuley

'muley,

I'll feign my "surprise",that no "particulars" surfaced in regards to boolits,their speed,glass,mounts,stock,bedding or anything else. Nor am I taken aback,that there's no honor in the equation...or anything to brag about. Laffin'.

Ohhhhhhhh you just might could be onto sumptin',in that particulars make more than a wee bit of difference,no matter the chambering and there prolly weren't no need to reiterate that,as it's long been a given.

Starting to smell like [bleep] Partitions and injection moulding to me,but this schit is always [bleep] funny!

What was it that you "thought" you "knew" again?!? Do tell,please don't be shy.

Laffin'!

Again,which boolit,glass,mount,stock,bedding and the like,enable your 300 Ultra to handle so "exceptionally" and really "hammer" things? Hell,mebbe say sumptin' about engagement distances,the means it's quantified and how POA/POI are arranged,if only for more humor.

Don't be shy,you got me on the ropes and you've the upperhand with 14 "years" of "trigger time".

Laffin'!










Fullofschitis,

You poor poor stupid [bleep]...I enjoy your Imagination,ALMOST as much as you do. Laffin'!

Points awarded for the "boring regularity" of AccuBombs goings in the .6's at the 300yd line. It's your Imagination Toots,Pretend with it however you please. Mebbe muse bedding?!? Laffin'!

Knock it out of the [bleep] Park and dangle a pic of you and your crossed-eyes with that Sako,so as to correlate the grandeur of your Daring Dumbfhukktitude. Laffin'! Feel free to call-in Imaginary Pretend Ignore,should it "help" you.

Wow +P+!

Mt Muley. I agree. The rum can shine if one can handle it.

This is what my Sako 300 Rum does with boring regularity more or less. Not bad for a factory job. Elk deer and antelope have been taken with no issues at different ranges.

I ain't getting into the pissin thing with Boxer. Don't have time. Nice shooting Fotis. That Accubond at 3100-3200 fps is deadly on any critter. mtmuley

Mine sits in a McMillan supergrade pattern. Edge fill.

Thank you MtMuley!

that was a classic!

'muley,

The only pissing you'd do,is up a rope and the only thing you would be in,is over your head.

Now it's starting to smell like windage adjustable bases,to boot.

Laffin'!

Please don't be shy in sharing the awesome particulars of the 14yr old 300 Ultra...if only for the [bleep] humor.

Bless your heart.










Fullofschitis,

Was really hoping to hear your "correct" build "particulars" and list of components. Laffin'!

Not that you can trump the Imagination and Pretend of punching 300yd AccuBomb clusters in the .6's,with "boring regularity". Just one pic of your crossed-eyes,would connect all them dots. Laffin'!

You Day Dreaming Do Nothing Dumbfhukks are a riot!

either the elk you hunt must be wearing body armor or ya cant get close.a friend of mine use to hunt with a 3oo ultra,he got tired of the weight and recoil.a 300u for deer is just funny.

What's the advantage of shooting a 300RUM if you're going to cut the barrel down? Might as well save 15grains of powder/shot and shoot a 300Win.

A 300Rum will break an Edge fill Mcmillan without a brake. I went with the Sporter McMillan, #5 fluted (no brake) Lilja at 27.5". I also shoot the 200 AB.

GH, I have ran barrels between 24 and 26" on my 300 RUM. I currently have a 24" tube on it and have no issue reaching 3300+fps with a 180gr bullet.
I also have a 300 win mag with a 23" tube and it gets around 3050fps with a 180.
My gun also has a Legend Edge stock and I shoot the snot out of it. Hasn't broke yet.
200 gr AB is a decent bullet, but my rum over several barrels has never cared for them accuracy wise. However, my 300 win mag loves them when paired with Retumbo.

I get the velocity you see with your 180s, with the 200AB and great accuracy. I couldn't get the 180 TTSX to shoot as well as the AB.

I've loved hunting with my 300RUM, it'll never be for sale, and it'll certainly kill more B&C critters (it's got a good streak going already) in the years to come. My next gun project (don't do many) will likely be another 7mm08 (already have two in my safe). Lightweight custom rem or GAP.

Heck with those two there is no need for another really.

Boxer, your way too frikken smart for me I bet. My set-up sounds real close to GH's though. mtmuley

You do have boxer figured out, he only uses words with "ph" and has a lot of trouble
communicating. His way or a better way. Ignore him.

'muley,

It goes without saying,that you are well shy of the grey matter(understatement). Hint.

Was simply looking forward to that highly "vaunted" 14yrs of "experience" and the "particulars". I'll feign my "surprise",that even someone as [bleep] stupid as you,KNOWS better than to try. Laffin'!

Bless your heart.










Femboy,

How is Imaginary Pretend Ignore treating you...you poor poor Whining Kchunt?!? Ooops!...that's a Trick Question,you can't answer that. Laffin'!

Feel free to use all the Imagination and Pretend you can summons to find me "mistaken" and I will happily take the time to rub your nose even further in your own stupidity.

You clueless [bleep] are a riot!

Wow +P+.