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Posted By: Kitch 98 Mauser 7x57 - 06/05/14
I'd love to have one of these in 7x57. The original Mauser...it's causing a lot of lust. crazy

http://www.mauser.com/en/products/m98/m98/
Posted By: chlinstructor Re: 98 Mauser 7x57 - 06/05/14
Oh MAN! That is sweet! I'm afraid to ask what the price would be?
Posted By: bangeye Re: 98 Mauser 7x57 - 06/06/14
Well now that is pretty and cool to boot.
Posted By: TC1 Re: 98 Mauser 7x57 - 06/06/14
Nice rifle but I would commision a build before paying what they want for one of those.
Posted By: Savage_99 Re: 98 Mauser 7x57 - 06/06/14
They say the 7x57 is a little short to fill a 98.

Note that your link shows the 7mm they chamber to be a 7X64!

"Standard
Barrel length 60 cm (24"):
(other barrel lengths available on request)

.22-250 Rem.
.243 Win.
.308 Win.
6.5 x 55
6.5 x 57
.270 Win.
7 x 64
.30-06
8 x 57 IS
8.5 x 63
9.3 x 62
(special calibers on request)
For Standard:

Magazine capacity: 5+1
Overall length: 113 cm (44")
Weight: approx. 3.6 kg (8 lbs)"
Posted By: TC1 Re: 98 Mauser 7x57 - 06/06/14
The 7X57 was made for the M98! Good grief. crazy
Posted By: ingwe Re: 98 Mauser 7x57 - 06/06/14
Consider the source�..
Posted By: MagMarc Re: 98 Mauser 7x57 - 06/06/14
Very nice rifle.
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: 98 Mauser 7x57 - 06/06/14
Originally Posted by MagMarc
Very nice rifle.

+1

Caught myself drooling while reviewing that link.

They didn't post the price, but imagine it's pretty healthy...

DF
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: 98 Mauser 7x57 - 06/06/14
Originally Posted by Savage_99
They say the 7x57 is a little short to fill a 98.

Well then, how do they manage the .243, 22-250, .308 and 6.5x55...??

DF
Posted By: JSTUART Re: 98 Mauser 7x57 - 06/06/14
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by Savage_99
They say the 7x57 is a little short to fill a 98.

Well then, how do they manage the .243, 22-250, .308 and 6.5x55...??

DF


Now don't be so bloody silly...you KNOW that you won't get any sense from him!
Posted By: hillbillybear Re: 98 Mauser 7x57 - 06/06/14
Beautiful rifle but I bet you would have to sell at least one testicle to be able to afford it. shocked
Posted By: JSTUART Re: 98 Mauser 7x57 - 06/06/14
Originally Posted by hillbillybear
Beautiful rifle but I bet you would have to sell at least one testicle to be able to afford it. shocked


True, but there is no reason it has to be your own.
Posted By: Theo Gallus Re: 98 Mauser 7x57 - 06/06/14
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Oh MAN! That is sweet! I'm afraid to ask what the price would be?

As my FIL used to say, "If you have to ask how much, you can't afford it."
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: 98 Mauser 7x57 - 06/06/14
I guess the lack of a quoted price is not a good sign for most of us...

DF
Posted By: Kitch Re: 98 Mauser 7x57 - 06/06/14
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Beautiful rifle but I bet you would have to sell at least one testicle to be able to afford it. shocked



No problem, they're not doing me any good anyway. Yep, lack of a price list is of most concern. Not even a "Price available upon request". Surely it wouldn't be as much or more than a Cooper.
Posted By: RevMike Re: 98 Mauser 7x57 - 06/06/14
Originally Posted by Kitch
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Beautiful rifle but I bet you would have to sell at least one testicle to be able to afford it. shocked



No problem, they're not doing me any good anyway. Yep, lack of a price list is of most concern. Not even a "Price available upon request". Surely it wouldn't be as much or more than a Cooper.


It even has the Rigby aperture sight on the bolt. Very cool. If you want to see what the comparable Wesley Richards would cost, just go to the WR site, click on "Build Your Own", and go from there. The basic WR (98 Mauser) is 16,500 pounds. That's about $27,715 at today's exchange rate. And you can begin to add on from there. A tad more than a Cooper, but I expect Ingwe will have to get one chambered in .275 Rigby some day. It'd make a heck of a pig gun, and he could even use the same ammo that he uses in his Fwt. Here's the link if you want to see it. http://www.westleyrichards.com/new-guns/bolt-action-rifles
Posted By: Pappy348 Re: 98 Mauser 7x57 - 06/06/14
Don't know your financial situation, but for ordinary folks, a good look at the price tag on that little gem will cool you down in a hurry.

A little bit of lurking on Gunbroker might yield a very nice FN deluxe sporter for probably a third or less of what that one would cost you. I don't recall any 7X57s lately, but .270s, '06s, and even .257s show up pretty often. If you squint your eyes a little, the .270 might pass for a 7mm.

Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: 98 Mauser 7x57 - 06/06/14
Originally Posted by Pappy348
Don't know your financial situation, but for ordinary folks, a good look at the price tag on that little gem will cool you down in a hurry.

A little bit of lurking on Gunbroker might yield a very nice FN deluxe sporter for probably a third or less of what that one would cost you. I don't recall any 7X57s lately, but .270s, '06s, and even .257s show up pretty often. If you squint your eyes a little, the .270 might pass for a 7mm.


Yeah, looking at that site cools me down quite a bit.

I'm more in the "build it yourself" class, although I've traded for some pretty nice guns over the years.

Here's my version of a '98 Mauser, a '50's vintage FN action fitted with a 23" Shilen #2 in a B&C Medalist. That's about where I stand on the '98 Mauser deal. May have to let the high end one pass... smile

I have less than $1,200 in this gun, a 6.5x55. I'm pretty sure $1,200 wouldn't make a down payment on the "real deal" Mauser '98.

DF

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Posted By: PeeDeeRiver Re: 98 Mauser 7x57 - 06/06/14
Originally Posted by TC1
The 7X57 was made for the M98! Good grief. crazy


It was actually made for the small ring M93.
Posted By: Kitch Re: 98 Mauser 7x57 - 06/06/14
Those are some of the most gorgeous rifles I've seen...pure sex!! Well, I could afford it but it's my policy not to ever spend over $2500 for any rifle. Closest thing to that price has been the JOC Deluxe Tribute rifle and a Shiloh Sharps 45-90.

still, like most, I'm a great admirer of fine weapons and those are the creme' de la creme'. Now, if I were Donald Trump I'd have a safe full of them.
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: 98 Mauser 7x57 - 06/06/14
The Trump boys did go on a major African Safari, elephant, buf, etc. Took some really nice trophies.

Do a word search on Trump+sons+Safari.

Looks like they had synthetic stocks on their rifles, nothing like the new Mauser 98.

DF
Posted By: TC1 Re: 98 Mauser 7x57 - 06/07/14
Originally Posted by PeeDeeRiver
Originally Posted by TC1
The 7X57 was made for the M98! Good grief. crazy


It was actually made for the small ring M93.


And the M98, but thanks for the needless correction anyway.
Posted By: BayouRover Re: 98 Mauser 7x57 - 06/07/14
Originally Posted by TC1
Originally Posted by PeeDeeRiver
Originally Posted by TC1
The 7X57 was made for the M98! Good grief. crazy


It was actually made for the small ring M93.


And the M98, but thanks for the needless correction anyway.


This is probably just another needless correction, but the 98 Mauser action was originally designed around the 7.92�57mm Mauser cartridge (more commonly called the 8 MM Mauser).

And yes I understand that the cartridge lengths are the same so there is no need to have you bother going into a lot of extra detail to fill me in.

BTW - a 1909 Argentine 98 action in 7X57 is a great action to build a custom rifle from.
Posted By: EdM Re: 98 Mauser 7x57 - 06/07/14
I am rather fond of the 7x57 built on the smaller Swede action myself. A Jim Wisner/Dean Zollinger piece.

Posted By: Craigster Re: 98 Mauser 7x57 - 06/07/14
BTW - 1909 Argentine 98 actions were not in 7X57. They were 7.65X53 Belgian Mauser, but the Argies decided to add a milimeter and call it X54. Bolivia, Colombia, Ecuador, Peru, and the Turks also used it.
Posted By: BayouRover Re: 98 Mauser 7x57 - 06/07/14
Originally Posted by Craigster
BTW - 1909 Argentine 98 actions were not in 7X57. They were 7.65X53 Belgian Mauser, but the Argies decided to add a milimeter and call it X54. Bolivia, Colombia, Ecuador, Peru, and the Turks also used it.


Just reread my sentence. What I was trying to say is that an 09 Argentine action makes for a great 7X57 custom rifle which I had built. I bought two plain un-barreled 09 actions for $50 each in a pawn shop about 15 years ago. The other action is still as I bought it waiting to become something.
Posted By: Craigster Re: 98 Mauser 7x57 - 06/07/14
Yes, the '09s are nice for custom builds. I put one together in 257 Roberts. Unfortunately, they are getting harder to find these days and they aren't getting any cheaper.
Posted By: PJGunner Re: 98 Mauser 7x57 - 06/07/14
I built my .280 Rem, on a 1909 Argie. My favorite though is a J.C. Higgins M50 action that I built a nice looking and very accurate 7x57. coolI've decided I may use one of either of those two on my next elk hunt.
Paul B.
Posted By: TC1 Re: 98 Mauser 7x57 - 06/07/14
Originally Posted by BayouRover
Originally Posted by TC1
Originally Posted by PeeDeeRiver
Originally Posted by TC1
The 7X57 was made for the M98! Good grief. crazy


It was actually made for the small ring M93.


And the M98, but thanks for the needless correction anyway.


This is probably just another needless correction, but the 98 Mauser action was originally designed around the 7.92�57mm Mauser cartridge (more commonly called the 8 MM Mauser).

And yes I understand that the cartridge lengths are the same so there is no need to have you bother going into a lot of extra detail to fill me in.

BTW - a 1909 Argentine 98 action in 7X57 is a great action to build a custom rifle from.


No where did I say originally and the statement I made was and is correct. The 7X57 was chambered for all the Mauser variants, including the M98. My comment was in reguards to another comment made by another poster that the 7X57 is too short for the M98. It isn't and I thought a simple one sentence reply would suffice, apparently not. Further more .30-06 length cartridges will not fit in a lot of M98 actions without deep seating because the the bottom metal was designed for **X57 cartridges, INCLUDING the 7X57. That's one of the things that made them so reliable and gave them the reputation they have today is the magazine box was designed for a particular cartridge for that rifle. Winchester did the samething in thier Pre-64 model 70. That's one of the reasons high end builds get new bottom metal. If you want the most reliable feeding from your M98 and you are changing cartridges, it's a wise move to change the bottom metal with a box that's designed for that class cartridge and it's stacking geometry, not just longer. It's not just for looks, it's also a functional upgrade.

The 7X57 is not too short for the standrd M98 action. It would be a great choice.
Posted By: TC1 Re: 98 Mauser 7x57 - 06/07/14
I've got two Mauser 98's in 7X57. Both are smallrings but still 98's. It's one of my all time favorites.
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Posted By: RevMike Re: 98 Mauser 7x57 - 06/07/14
Sweet!
Posted By: OrangeOkie Re: 98 Mauser 7x57 - 06/07/14
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Posted By: Kitch Re: 98 Mauser 7x57 - 06/07/14
You guys sure make a guy envious...real green! TC1-that's quite a balancing act on those first two pics!

IIRC, Eleanor O'Connor's favorite 7mm Mauser was built on the 98 action. Either way, it's a fine cartridge regardless the action.
Posted By: sandpit Re: 98 Mauser 7x57 - 06/08/14
Originally Posted by Savage_99
They say the 7x57 is a little short to fill a 98.

Note that your link shows the 7mm they chamber to be a 7X64!

"Standard
Barrel length 60 cm (24"):
(other barrel lengths available on request)

.22-250 Rem.
.243 Win.
.308 Win.
6.5 x 55
6.5 x 57
.270 Win.
7 x 64
.30-06
8 x 57 IS
8.5 x 63
9.3 x 62
(special calibers on request)
For Standard:

Magazine capacity: 5+1
Overall length: 113 cm (44")
Weight: approx. 3.6 kg (8 lbs)"



my model 1910 costa rican mauser is a 98 large ring action built as a 7x57 in 1911.
Posted By: RevMike Re: 98 Mauser 7x57 - 06/08/14
Okie, sweet as well! Details?
Posted By: Joe Re: 98 Mauser 7x57 - 06/08/14
Beautiful rifles fellows!
Okie, where is the safety located on your rifle? I can't find it in the pic.
Posted By: bobnob17 Re: 98 Mauser 7x57 - 06/09/14
Originally Posted by TC1

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Classic.

Well played!
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